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Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 10:23:15 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 10, 2023, 07:59:54 PM

Just makes me wonder why Teofimo Lopez is getting all this special treatment when he moves to 140 lbs. He hasn't proved anything yet in this division, having like 1-2 fights with unknown boxer.

And now he will be give the chance to fight for a world title at this division? The only thing that I can think of is that Top Rank wants all money in-house for them and their fighters, so it's easy to make this fight by bypassing Jack.

I think regardless of how we think of that fight, it does make sense for Teofimo Lopez to be chosen as the challenger for that WBO Junior Welterweight Title.

Even having only a few fights at 140 against an "unknown" boxer as you mentioned, Teofimo Lopez is currently the Rank 1 contender in the current WBO rankings in that particular division, therefore, he is eligible for a title match and a challenger.

We can't only blame Top Rank here as WBO itself plays a role in allowing that fight.

Proving anything at the present division is actually not that important these days as the promoter's influence can already get the governing bodies confirmation. Even if he just got a 2-fight with unknown boxers, those are still win and eventually, he will climb the ladder towards the champion and contest their belt.

It's not that new as well because Teo Lopez is not that kind of ordinary boxer as he already made a name in the previous weight class, so, it's obvious that he won't begin at the bottom of the food chain on his climb just like the other boxers do.

Just few examples:
Canelo Alvarez when he fought Kovalev directly
Naoya Inoue will now be fighting Steph Fulton directly

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 10:23:15 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 10, 2023, 07:59:54 PM

Just makes me wonder why Teofimo Lopez is getting all this special treatment when he moves to 140 lbs. He hasn't proved anything yet in this division, having like 1-2 fights with unknown boxer.

And now he will be give the chance to fight for a world title at this division? The only thing that I can think of is that Top Rank wants all money in-house for them and their fighters, so it's easy to make this fight by bypassing Jack.

I think regardless of how we think of that fight, it does make sense for Teofimo Lopez to be chosen as the challenger for that WBO Junior Welterweight Title.

Even having only a few fights at 140 against an "unknown" boxer as you mentioned, Teofimo Lopez is currently the Rank 1 contender in the current WBO rankings in that particular division, therefore, he is eligible for a title match and a challenger.

We can't only blame Top Rank here as WBO itself plays a role in allowing that fight.

It's politics again that play a big role here and that is why Jack C. is being bypass. I would agree that it seems they work this into perfection from behind without Jack's camp noticing it.

But we will see, I think it's not final yet, Top Rank may just have lay down their cards in here so that obviously, money goes to them regardless of who is going to win or lose in this fight.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 30, 2023, 02:28:54 AM

Dmitry Bivol really wants to fight Artur Beterbiev, in a title unification bout it sure is a great fight to watch we will surely see who may prevail Power, VS Speed and like I have said Dmitry Bivol is a technical fighter, that has volume and speed and his punches were quite lethal if he strikes on the same target, it could be devastating, but 1 punch of Artur Beterbiev may close the fight into a KO win for Beterbiev, because 1 punch is all Beterbiev needed, while Bivol will surely fine a way to counter this aswell,

I'm hoping that one day we will have a thread about Bivol and Beterbiev, that they finally going to meet in the ring with a date of the course, and a contract, there are so many speculations when it comes to two fighters I hope between these two fighters we will not see issues like what we have seen between Spence and Crawford they just want to make people hoping when we have the date and the contract we'll then have a healthy discussion between these two fighters.

For now, we just need to wait for further announcements because right now we surely are wishful thinking that this fight will go through but for now, waiting patiently is the only option, and hope that there are promoters that are listening to the many fans that want this fight to really happen and because these two is not getting any younger now and nearing their retiring years eventually there might be a solution for these two to really fight for real,

Now I would like to post this event because there is no thread available for it, and this is an event that is starting right now,

Boxfest Round 29

Saturday 02.11.2023
Venue: The Derby Room Pomona at Fairplex
Location: Pomona, CA

MAIN EVENT

Fernando Vargas Jr VS Geronimo Nahuel Sacco

MAIN CARD

Jerry Bradford VS James Westley II
Matthew Rodriguez VS Yainiel Alvarez
Oleksandr Gvozdyk VS Jorge Daniel Miranda
Austin Brooks VS Ezequiel Borrero
Hector Lopez VS Olaf Estrella Soto
Aidyn Yelzhanov VS Trenton Gibson
Federico Pacheco Jr VS Halston Williams
Joseph Abudy VS Juan Molina
Morris Young VS Daniel Perales

CANCELLED CARD

Andrii Novytskyi VS Jeremiah Stevenson

All information was from TAPOLOGY

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 10:23:15 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 10, 2023, 07:59:54 PM

Just makes me wonder why Teofimo Lopez is getting all this special treatment when he moves to 140 lbs. He hasn't proved anything yet in this division, having like 1-2 fights with unknown boxer.

And now he will be give the chance to fight for a world title at this division? The only thing that I can think of is that Top Rank wants all money in-house for them and their fighters, so it's easy to make this fight by bypassing Jack.

I think regardless of how we think of that fight, it does make sense for Teofimo Lopez to be chosen as the challenger for that WBO Junior Welterweight Title.

Even having only a few fights at 140 against an "unknown" boxer as you mentioned, Teofimo Lopez is currently the Rank 1 contender in the current WBO rankings in that particular division, therefore, he is eligible for a title match and a challenger.

We can't only blame Top Rank here as WBO itself plays a role in allowing that fight.

Yes, but all along we thought that it will be Jack Catterall vs Josh Taylor II for the rematch. And it was already scheduled on March if I'm not mistaken, until Josh injured himself, and in which Jack doesn't believed.

So not it make sense that maybe his injury is not real and that Top Rank wants their fight for them.

But still good fight for me, Teofimo is trying to get his second title and it's good to see him go against Josh Taylor.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 10, 2023, 07:59:54 PM

Just makes me wonder why Teofimo Lopez is getting all this special treatment when he moves to 140 lbs. He hasn't proved anything yet in this division, having like 1-2 fights with unknown boxer.

And now he will be give the chance to fight for a world title at this division? The only thing that I can think of is that Top Rank wants all money in-house for them and their fighters, so it's easy to make this fight by bypassing Jack.

I think regardless of how we think of that fight, it does make sense for Teofimo Lopez to be chosen as the challenger for that WBO Junior Welterweight Title.

Even having only a few fights at 140 against an "unknown" boxer as you mentioned, Teofimo Lopez is currently the Rank 1 contender in the current WBO rankings in that particular division, therefore, he is eligible for a title match and a challenger.

We can't only blame Top Rank here as WBO itself plays a role in allowing that fight.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 10, 2023, 06:44:42 PM

Wow,

https://twitter.com/ESPNRingside/status/1623920701349548032

I don't think this will sit well with Jack Catterall as they have scheduled already a rematch with Josh Taylor. Unfortunately, Josh got injured again and so the fight is called off.

Now this news is circulating that Teo Lopez is not going to fight Josh Taylor next for the title.

So I think this is a bitch move from Top Rank to bypass Catterall. Jack losses the first fight against Josh Taylor but it was very close that there are some insiders who think that Jack won the fight.

Just makes me wonder why Teofimo Lopez is getting all this special treatment when he moves to 140 lbs. He hasn't proved anything yet in this division, having like 1-2 fights with unknown boxer.

And now he will be give the chance to fight for a world title at this division? The only thing that I can think of is that Top Rank wants all money in-house for them and their fighters, so it's easy to make this fight by bypassing Jack.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on February 10, 2023, 06:28:03 PM

so either magsayo or figueroa, they may be wishing right now for vargas to win because that will favour their career. vargas is the favourite over foster, so let's see if he can get the belt of WBC World Super Featherweight Champion. if upset happens, then yeah, the winner of magsayo vs figueroa may face vargas later on.

Yes, it might be lol. No more added obstacle if both boxers want that WBC Featherweight Title if Rey Vargas will win and choose to hold instead the Super Bantamweight title. The winner between them will be officially holding the title and not just be an interim champion if Vargas decides to vacant it.

But the most speculated things that might happen can also be changed.

We just have to wait for results especially the fight between Vargas and Foster that's just less than a day now before the official face-off in the ring.

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Wow,

https://twitter.com/ESPNRingside/status/1623920701349548032

I don't think this will sit well with Jack Catterall as they have scheduled already a rematch with Josh Taylor. Unfortunately, Josh got injured again and so the fight is called off.

Now this news is circulating that Teo Lopez is not going to fight Josh Taylor next for the title.

So I think this is a bitch move from Top Rank to bypass Catterall. Jack losses the first fight against Josh Taylor but it was very close that there are some insiders who think that Jack won the fight.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on February 10, 2023, 05:18:01 PM

It looks like a rematch against Vargas is difficult since there is no clause of a rematch in their previous fight contract. Besides it was stated that Vargas isn't interested to fight any boxer that will not bring any benefit from him. What I am seeing on this action of Vargas is that he is aiming for a unification fight and will disregard any match that won't give him another title. So I think if Magsayo really wanted to take back his title, he must get another title to make the rematch against Vargas much easier.

Disregarding any rematch clause or what on their first meeting, if Rey Vargas will lose his match against Foster, a mandatory title defense back at the Featherweight division will be ordered for him and that's to fight the winner of the Magsayo-Figueroa bout. Simple as that.

Obviously, if Mark Magsayo wants to become a champion again, he should win against Figueroa and don't mind Vargas for now. Besides, if Vargas will win against Foster, he is likely to push his journey to 130 leaving his 126 title vacant and will be granted to the interim champion. Since that will be the case, Magsayo will now hold the title again if he won against Figueroa.

Just for clarification, I'm not saying Magsayo will win but just giving an example scenario.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 10, 2023, 05:57:42 PM

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Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

so either magsayo or figueroa, they may be wishing right now for vargas to win because that will favour their career. vargas is the favourite over foster, so let's see if he can get the belt of WBC World Super Featherweight Champion. if upset happens, then yeah, the winner of magsayo vs figueroa may face vargas later on.

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Congrats mate. The spread was very small for Artur, but it's still good because you won the game. It was not an easy win for him, good thing he was able to connect with a solid punch that put Yarde down and that was the end of the fight as Yarde could not respond anymore.

Just watch the highlights but I heard the news that he won the fight, he is still undefeated now and with a perfect KO win in all of his fights.

Beterbiev is really a monster, no one can survive from his punch. I think if there's a fight where he can't knock out his opponent, anyone will think the boxer is capable and has a power to compete with Beterbiev. The odds for Beterbiev to win via decision is high too since everyone know Beterbive always knock out every opponents including the strong boxer like Yarde, Smith Jr, Gvozdyk and Browne.

Could Bivol survive for the complete 12 rounds or he will pull an upset against Beterbiev?

Really hard to see how the Beterbiev vs Bivol will turn out. Obviously, Beterbiev has the power, but Bivol has the footprint and the volume punching.

Yes, I do think that Yarde did very good in this fight and judges awarded him as he was ahead in the 2 cards. But it's just a matter on time before he will be caught by Beterbiev's power and that happen. Just very unfortunately that he was doing good until the 8th, and the right hand had a lot of power as you can see in his eyes that he felt that power.

Well to put it mildly and without seeing statistics or predictions of any kind, much less without seeing any article alluding to this, I think this fight would be very interesting, but between the two I think the strongest is Bivol, he can make the difference, but Bivol has something very clear and it is his objective, I know he wants to be famous, he admits it himself and that is something that no one can take away from him, and seeing the discipline he has, he could do it, I don't know, but I do believe in the boxer's skills, hopefully they don't keep bothering him with the Russian stuff and he finally manages to be famous without being bothered by the country he comes from, hopefully they see the meaning of the sport and nothing else.

Here is something very interesting:

Why Tommy Fury wasn't at Jake Paul press conference in Saudi Arabia

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Tommy Fury has explained his reason for not attending a press conference with Jake Paul on Thursday.

The fight between the pair of celebrity boxing rivals will take place in Saudi Arabia at the Diriyah Arena on February 26.
Why wasn't Fury at the press conference?

Paul, 25, has accused Fury, 23, of being 'scared' after he failed to show up for media duties earlier this week.

However the latter has insisted that isn't the case as he claimed that he had no reason for being there.

“I can clear that up in two seconds,” Fury told MMA Fighting.

“Basically, Jake Paul signed up into the world of professional boxing and I am a professional athlete, a professional boxer.

Source: https://www.givemesport.com/tommy-fury-jake-paul-fight-press-conference-boxing-news/

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 10, 2023, 05:18:45 PM

Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

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Official weigh-in for Vargas vs Foster:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr0jwCbT5P0

Some pushing and jousting for position in front of the camera hehehe.

This is going to be a good fight for the championship belt, Foster has something to prove in this fight. He will be fighting Vargas who is moving up in weight so we might say that Foster has the advantage since he has been campaigning here already. But Vargas wanted to become the next great champion to become Mexico's another 3x world champ.

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That is the thing right there, Vargas is not open to give opportunities to the boxer he once defeated or if he can't gain anything from fighting them. Although, let's still hope that if Magsayo will prevail on this fight successfully, Vargas will give him a chance to redeem his belt that was once on his possession and make a rematch. This speculated bout will be a good fight soon because Magsayo managed to knock down Vargas, right? And this time, I'm sure Magsayo will train much harder in-order to commit a different outcome.

It looks like Magsayo will have a hard time regaining his title since Vargas isn't open for a rematch and does not want a fight that he can gain nothing. So for Magsayo to have a chance for a title fight needs the governing bodies to order Vargas to a mandatory defense against Magsayo. So this time, Magsayo must win convincingly against Figueroa and climb his way to rank 1 contender.

Vargas can say what he wanted but we all know that the odds doesn't belong to him this time because the winner of the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight has the complete edge to be the WBC champion or at least be the title challenger if ever Vargas will get defeated against Foster in his fight later this day. But if things will go in his favor and the opposite thing will happen then that means that the winner of Magsayo-Figuroa fight will automatically become the WBC champion of 126 pounds.

Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division, unless he will be upset and he will go back to his original weight and defend his title, we will know whatever it will be after his fight.

Hopefully, he will manage to take another level to his career and win that chase, it will be more money to come if he will win.

But knowing this sport, a lot of upsets can take place, it will be depends on how a fighter will stand tall and make his way to keep winning.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 09, 2023, 01:10:57 PM

All we need to do is to wait for Magsayo to win and have that opporntunity to call for a rematch, if he will manage to bring Vargas to the ring for the second time, I'm pretty sure that that the camp already have the adjustments and proper trainings to prapare for this anticipate rematch, Magsayo needs to work out on his stamina and not just the early powerful combinations but a long lasting stamina to stay on the fight once his opponents manages to take his punches and stay standing up to the last round.

It looks like a rematch against Vargas is difficult since there is no clause of a rematch in their previous fight contract. Besides it was stated that Vargas isn't interested to fight any boxer that will not bring any benefit from him. What I am seeing on this action of Vargas is that he is aiming for a unification fight and will disregard any match that won't give him another title. So I think if Magsayo really wanted to take back his title, he must get another title to make the rematch against Vargas much easier.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 08, 2023, 03:46:14 PM

That is the thing right there, Vargas is not open to give opportunities to the boxer he once defeated or if he can't gain anything from fighting them. Although, let's still hope that if Magsayo will prevail on this fight successfully, Vargas will give him a chance to redeem his belt that was once on his possession and make a rematch. This speculated bout will be a good fight soon because Magsayo managed to knock down Vargas, right? And this time, I'm sure Magsayo will train much harder in-order to commit a different outcome.

It looks like Magsayo will have a hard time regaining his title since Vargas isn't open for a rematch and does not want a fight that he can gain nothing. So for Magsayo to have a chance for a title fight needs the governing bodies to order Vargas to a mandatory defense against Magsayo. So this time, Magsayo must win convincingly against Figueroa and climb his way to rank 1 contender.

Vargas can say what he wanted but we all know that the odds doesn't belong to him this time because the winner of the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight has the complete edge to be the WBC champion or at least be the title challenger if ever Vargas will get defeated against Foster in his fight later this day. But if things will go in his favor and the opposite thing will happen then that means that the winner of Magsayo-Figuroa fight will automatically become the WBC champion of 126 pounds.

The fight between Magsayo and Figuroa is later than Vargas fight, so it is very interesting to see how the event will develop.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on February 08, 2023, 05:06:48 PM

Quote from: mirakal on February 08, 2023, 03:46:14 PM

That is the thing right there, Vargas is not open to give opportunities to the boxer he once defeated or if he can't gain anything from fighting them. Although, let's still hope that if Magsayo will prevail on this fight successfully, Vargas will give him a chance to redeem his belt that was once on his possession and make a rematch. This speculated bout will be a good fight soon because Magsayo managed to knock down Vargas, right? And this time, I'm sure Magsayo will train much harder in-order to commit a different outcome.

It looks like Magsayo will have a hard time regaining his title since Vargas isn't open for a rematch and does not want a fight that he can gain nothing. So for Magsayo to have a chance for a title fight needs the governing bodies to order Vargas to a mandatory defense against Magsayo. So this time, Magsayo must win convincingly against Figueroa and climb his way to rank 1 contender.

Vargas can say what he wanted but we all know that the odds doesn't belong to him this time because the winner of the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight has the complete edge to be the WBC champion or at least be the title challenger if ever Vargas will get defeated against Foster in his fight later this day. But if things will go in his favor and the opposite thing will happen then that means that the winner of Magsayo-Figuroa fight will automatically become the WBC champion of 126 pounds.

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Vargas vs Foster final press conference and face-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjZ0mlTRGjI

Of course the regular exchange for this boxer in the press conference, Vargas says that Foster hasn't gotten a good sleep, while Foster said he will send Rey Vargas back to 126 lbs after he lost this fight. It also includes Mario Barrios and Puerto Rico’s Jovanie Santiago,10-round welterweight co-main event As well as unbeaten heavyweights Lenier Peró and Viktor Faust.

What a heated exchange of words between these two and I hope it's not just about trash talk but they will really eager to do it for real.

I'm looking forward to Rey Vargas winning the fight so he can settle now with the Super Featherweight.

Vargas is unable to secure his target fights at 126 so instead, he considers moving up to face new challenges. It's a wise decision as even if he loses this match against Foster, he's still a champion at 126.

Yes, but for me, it's just the trash talk, what's important is how they are going to perform inside the ring. Vargas still a slight favorite to win this fight, 1.7x against 2.0x for Foster.

Same here, I think with Vargas height and reach advantage, he will put Foster at bay here and then win in the cards of the judge and then settle here at this weight as he is looking for bigger fights maybe against another Mexican warrior in Leo Santa Cruz.

If only Vargas continued to work on knocking out his opponents like he did when was still a prospect, he could move up as much as he can. But I guess fighters with less power have limits when moving up since their bigger opponents might not get scared of getting hit for a chance to unleash their own power punches. But I also think that Vargas can overcome Foster.

If Vargas wins, he might be mandated to face former 2 division champion, Oscar Valdez. Both Vargas and Valdez already said they want the fight. This fight is bigger than Vargas-LSC but with Vargas being handled by PBC, it might not allow Vargas-Valdez to happen. Maybe Vargas-LSC is possible but it also depends if the latter is still interested in another risky fight with a lesser named opponent.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 09, 2023, 06:58:58 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 09, 2023, 06:26:28 PM

Vargas vs Foster final press conference and face-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjZ0mlTRGjI

Of course the regular exchange for this boxer in the press conference, Vargas says that Foster hasn't gotten a good sleep, while Foster said he will send Rey Vargas back to 126 lbs after he lost this fight. It also includes Mario Barrios and Puerto Rico’s Jovanie Santiago,10-round welterweight co-main event As well as unbeaten heavyweights Lenier Peró and Viktor Faust.

What a heated exchange of words between these two and I hope it's not just about trash talk but they will really eager to do it for real.

I'm looking forward to Rey Vargas winning the fight so he can settle now with the Super Featherweight.

Vargas is unable to secure his target fights at 126 so instead, he considers moving up to face new challenges. It's a wise decision as even if he loses this match against Foster, he's still a champion at 126.

Yes, but for me, it's just the trash talk, what's important is how they are going to perform inside the ring. Vargas still a slight favorite to win this fight, 1.7x against 2.0x for Foster.

Same here, I think with Vargas height and reach advantage, he will put Foster at bay here and then win in the cards of the judge and then settle here at this weight as he is looking for bigger fights maybe against another Mexican warrior in Leo Santa Cruz.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 09, 2023, 06:26:28 PM

Vargas vs Foster final press conference and face-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjZ0mlTRGjI

Of course the regular exchange for this boxer in the press conference, Vargas says that Foster hasn't gotten a good sleep, while Foster said he will send Rey Vargas back to 126 lbs after he lost this fight. It also includes Mario Barrios and Puerto Rico’s Jovanie Santiago,10-round welterweight co-main event As well as unbeaten heavyweights Lenier Peró and Viktor Faust.

What a heated exchange of words between these two and I hope it's not just about trash talk but they will really eager to do it for real.

I'm looking forward to Rey Vargas winning the fight so he can settle now with the Super Featherweight.

Vargas is unable to secure his target fights at 126 so instead, he considers moving up to face new challenges. It's a wise decision as even if he loses this match against Foster, he's still a champion at 126.

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Vargas vs Foster final press conference and face-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjZ0mlTRGjI

Of course the regular exchange for this boxer in the press conference, Vargas says that Foster hasn't gotten a good sleep, while Foster said he will send Rey Vargas back to 126 lbs after he lost this fight. It also includes Mario Barrios and Puerto Rico’s Jovanie Santiago,10-round welterweight co-main event As well as unbeaten heavyweights Lenier Peró and Viktor Faust.

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