Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 153. (Read 29009 times)

I have to admit that I missed watching that Taylor-Prograis unification bout nor did I watch a full replay. Highlights can be biased to judge a fight. Gone are the days when I cannot miss good match-ups, especially a unification fight between 2 undefeated fighters. I did take a look at the punch stats and I was surprised that Prograis was winning it easily.

I also do not see Teofimo Lopez winning against Prograis. Prograis is not that skilled but his power can either score a KO or change a tempo of a fight. Bob Arum will try to make it safe for Teofimo. All the top names in 140 belong to Top Rank anyways except Prograis whose promoter seems willing to work with any promoters and networks. Maybe Bob will allow Ramirez to fight Prograis. If Ramirez wins it could be a fight with Teofimo but if Prograis wins, I doubt Bob will do that. I even doubt Ramirez will face Prograis since they are looking forward to the WBO belt which will either become vacant or face Catterall.   

Prograis seems a tough boxer that can fight toe to toe, his toughness is his advantage against Teofimo Lopez, so I have the same opinion that Lopez will be having a hard time against Prograis.  And if ever Lopez decided to confront Prograis and had an exchange of blows, there is a higher percentage that Lopez will kiss the canvas.


Hopefully, there is none (politics) on this one or the camp or Lopez evading the winner of that fight.

That Knockout from Sandor Martin I really thought it was just a graze it was scored as a Knockout by the referee, you can see that Sandor Martin just exposes Teofimo Lopez Martin did a great job but the cut from his nose might be unbearable but Teofimo Lopez would need to rally some points so he can make up for that bad performance on the beginning of the round it was a split decision a close call for Lopez and regarding this fight he will have a hard time of his career moving forward, that is for sure,


with only 1 loss in this division, Regis Prograis is really a nightmare, for Teofimo Lopez but knowing Lopez he would surely take this on he really wants this badly, in getting much division and turn himself into a legend he needs this fight, for sure he still not in the middle of what he is after, and he doesn't have much time because like another boxer ring rust is the enemy of many boxers and fighters so they need to push through, but yes it will be a big challenge for Teofimo Lopez and this is also for his career,

Prograis is a nightmare match up for anyone at 140 lbs, although he lost to Josh Taylor, it was a very close and hard fought match, others score it a draw (including myself). So I don't think Lopez could win against the top dog in this division. Maybe he will have a difficult time against Catterall if they fought.

And then he became the mandatory, and should be waiting for the winner of the Prograis vs. Ramirez. And if there's no boxing politics between, then this fight could be made, either winner though will be a very exciting match up for Lopez.

And with this Teo Lopez win, he will be the 2nd mandatory fighter and will probably waiting for the winner of Prograis vs Ramirez. This is a new territory for Lopez and there is no going back and it will be harder for him moving forward. Yes, he won but it seems that he was exposed by Martin as well. But for sure he will be respected if he can beat any of the belt champion right now. But as per Martin, Lopez might find it difficult against Prograis because Regis is a harder puncher. But we will see, let's wait for the result of Prograis vs Ramirez first or even Taylor vs Catterall rematch in this division.

But I think this is still valid for people that don't know that there is a thread, but maybe I will provide a link to the thread for that fight but the full event is nowhere to be found on that thread, like the fight of Naoya Inoue's brother Takuma Inoue VS Jake Bornea, where the opponent of Naoya Inoue's brother is a Filipino, for me that will be a great fight because Jake Bornea may surprise Takuma, but yes Takuma Inoue like his brother should not be underestimated, another one is the match for the OPBF Featherweight Title belt, and that will be Satoshi Shimizu VS Landy Cris Leon, and for this fight, I am having my doubts on Landy Cris Leon, if he's able to withstand against Shimizu, and if that box record correct, he got 14 wins 21 losses and 5 draws?

There's a thread about this match, it was created since August [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13

The latest discussion is about the odds where it's not worth it to bet winning method option because Inoue will obviously win via KO. So it's better if we bet on the winner & round range option, for me it's either Inoue & 1-3 or Inoue & 4-6. But since the odds for Inoue & 1-3 is small, I will take a risk to bet Inoue & 4-6.

Now Moving forward and this fight is about to happen on December 13,  and I was really anticipating it, on how great Naoya Inoue can become upon destroying Nonito Donaire again, so here is the event

Inoue vs. Butler

Tuesday 12.13.2022 at 02:30 AM ET
Ownership: Akihiko Honda
Venue: Ariake Arena
Location: Tokyo, Japan



MAIN EVENT

Undisputed Bantamweight Title
Naoya Inoue VS Paul Butler

CO-MAIN EVENT

WBO Asia Pacific Super Lightweight Title
Andy Hiraoka VS Min Ho Jung

MAIN CARD

OPBF Super Bantamweight Title
Yoshiki Takei VS Bruno Tarimo

Peter McGrail VS Hironori Miyake
Takuma Inoue VS Jake Bornea

OPBF Featherweight Title
Satoshi Shimizu VS Landy Cris Leon

All information was from TAPOLOGY

Martin had a good start but fell short on aggressiveness.  The judge saw Teofimo Lopez is more eager to win the fight by being aggressive the whole fight. 


Yeah Teofimo is way more aggressive and launched more volume of punches.  Martin strategy is to counter Teofimo punches  but everytime they clash, Teofimo seems to negate those counters in the later rounds giving him more scoring punches than Martin


It was close but it is obvious that Lopez really won that fight.

Not a robbery and Martin is just doing what he thinks is good, he doesn't want that engagement knowing that Lopez can really take him down
if he will give him that chance.

He just moves according to how he see that he has some chance of winning, but the judges give the win to Lopez
as he converts more and he's really aggressive.

Nothing to say, a win is still a win and we will wait for Lopez next schedules.

Thanks for the correction, yeah, same question as well, he is like a magnet for any vehicular accident waiting to happen hehehe.

Yeah, that legs is very important to a boxer too, that's how they dance, the move with their legs. Anyone see Manny Pacquiao's massive lower leg? that's where he got his power. So if a boxer doesn't have good legs most likely he can't hold himself and every time someone touches them in the chin they can easily go down.

Hopefully Spence case is different and he can recover his legs from this accident.

Not the 2nd time, this is his 3rd car crash.

I don't know what's with Errol Spence Jr. but it seems to me that he is a magnet to streets when it comes to accidents and for that, he should ought to have a personal driver to drive him whenever he wanted to go or to run for his errands. He shouldn't be driving around solo because his talents will go to waste if his legs or arm will be harmed badly. Good thing that he is already safe, but those legs tho, he's saying that it hurts badly.

I guess you're right about that. I was just wondering that he already got a fight with just a few months rest and he's already defending his WBO International belt that he won in competition against Pedro Campa. Anyway, I figured out that he isn't that really ready to face the champions he still need another fight to get him ready against Prograis or Taylor but still a good win, he almost messed it up when he was knocked down in round 2.

Well, he's back and for sure promoters will bring his name on the list, another good chance for him to make more money fight, Lopez strategy gives him that credit to win, those numbers of converted punches and like what you have said judges gives him the credit and with that decision the announcer state his name as the winner on this fight.

Congrats to all who won their bet whatever types of betting they prefer in this fight, enjoy the weekends parties!

I agree that Lopez wanted to fight from the distance because he is a tough dude and that is the mistake that Mickey did make when he lost to Martin. He thought that he can just used his power against Martin, but it was the other way around as Martin is solid.

Yes, the punch output of Lopez is enough for him to win in the cards of the judges. And he is the A-side in this fight, when the fight is close, maybe the judges gave it to Lopez that's why the two judges have him winning with a good lead.

Yeah, it seems that Lopez is too eager in the early rounds and that's why Martin scored a flash knockdown. Lopez though complain that he is frustrated because Martin chooses to run in this fight and that he keeps on chasing him.

Nevertheless it was a split decision only win for Lopez, and not majority. But still a win is a win for him.

No robbery though, it's that Martin didn't do enough to win on the other 2 judges.

Wow! nobody is talking about the Pacquiao vs. Yoo fight but whatever it is just an exhibition match anyway, but what I am after was the Sean Garcia fight, that is what I want to see,

Manny Pacquiao VS DK Yoo - Manny Pacquiao Won via unanimous decision

Well, I was really not surprised that Manny Pacquaio won this, I already know that DK Yoo doesn't have any experience in a real boxing fight, even though he has experience in street brawl kung-fu style there is a huge difference between boxing and you are limited in just using your fist, for MMA VS Boxing in boxing ruled, match there will be a huge advantage for a boxer when they fight in a boxing rule format fight well as expected all rounds go to Manny Pacquiao and we all know that DK Yoo is gassing out and just prolonging the time while Manny Pacquiao is having a great time here for him this is easy money,

Sean Garcia VS Seung Ho Yang Seung Ho Yang  Won via majority decision

You heard it right as you can see Garcia's opponent thought this was MMA clinching and dragging him well that momentum of Garcia was all lost to the drain because of it, surely Seung Ho Yang does have a movement I have seen that Sean Garcia was doing great in the opening rounds, but that momentum was lost, well you can hear the commentators are mostly biased towards Sean Garcia but the Judges scored a biased majority win over to Seung Ho Yang, is it a robbery? I haven't seen the full fight yet, and I didn't watch the live stream,

The fight was ended and Lopez win via split decision, the judges already make a good decision in this match. The first 2 round Lopez was fall for 2 times, it's not because Martin punch him, but he's force himself to punch Martin while he's too far. Lopez seems want to fight in distance, but he doesn't have enough reach to use this strategy. Lopez still winning since he punch more and few of his punch is on point to Martin's face.

There were reports that surface saying that Spence is involved in another vehicular accident.


https://www.boxingscene.com/errol-spence-involved-accident-car-totaled-being-struck-by-underage-unlicensed-driver--171075

He was not hurt but complain about his legs though, but at least he is safe now.

Don't know what's with Spence that this is the second time that he is involved in this kind of accident. Although this one he is the victim, but still, could be a career ending injuries for him. The driver is underage and doesn't have any license, ouch.

Teo is capable of knocking people out, but I don't know if he can bring his power to 140 lbs, we've seen his fight in this division though against Campa, but we all know that Campa is not in his prime. But it was a good welcome for Lopez in 140 lbs.

He left go of his hands in that fight a good indication that he is really focused more on his career after his lost to Kambosos.

So now he is back with a good and durable opponent. So yes, we shall tonight, probably most of us as waiting for this fight.