Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 154. (Read 29009 times)

Well, I really think Vasiliy Lomachenko is preparing something and not really showing what he can truly do inside the ring, for now, I want to think that before he can face Devin Haney first, maybe he is keeping his trump card intact, but it could also be ring rust, but for further analysis as for now I really don't want to think it that way, yes Lomachenko doesn't have the 1 punch KO his opponent but the speed and volume can be his lethal weapon, but in his recent fight I really don't see the quickness or is he suppressing it but for me, he can surely still show more than speed on his last fight,


Well, I am just thinking out of the box here like I said he is not really suppressing his strength but just not showing his trump card, and until he can fight Devin Haney or some fighter that needs to be using it he will likely be using it aswell, well for me Devin Haney was his real target and yeah I want to think that he is hiding his trump card for the time being, but it could also be ring rust, and right now maybe it is catching up to him and yeah he is really feeling it right now,

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Right now the fight with Manny Pacquiao is nearing to start, and we all know what may happen to DK Yoo after this fight I really don't think Manny Pacquiao could lose this either, and Ryan Garcia's brother is also fighting in this event Sean "Sugar Rush" Garcia is fighting 1st, he also got a picture of him with Manny Pacquiao and thankful that he is on the same card as the Legend, for me I think this is interesting but I don't really want to compare him to his brother but Sean Garcia might become a great fighter aswell,

Yes, probably another tune up fight for Teo Lopez because he has two successive fights this year with just short rest in between. But nevertheless, he might be looking at an easy opponent but still he should take it lightly as Martin is a rough opponent but we will see how Lopez will respond to this tough opponent of his.

I think he need more fight in 140 lbs early next year and maybe after he won that fight he will be given the chance to fight one of the champions, like Prograis or even Josh Taylor (if Josh chooses to stay at 140 lbs).

It will bring another interesting match if Lopez will manage to finished his opponent with a KO, a hype will be there to bring interesting fight to him, like what you said possible to challenge the belt holder and gives them a tough fight in defending the title, or possible upset since Lopez is also good and he can change the direction of the fight.

Too early to conclude, better to wait for his upcoming fight and see if how he will attract fans to support and cheers with him.

I wasn't informed that Teofimo Lopez will have his fight before this year ends too and under Crawford's fight with David Avanesyan. I took a quick look and there's nothing to expect against his opponent because he is not that good either, the only advantage Martin got is his experience which is not that big because Teo Lopez have already gone such good fights unlike Martin despite the numerous bouts he got in his career.

The way I see it, this is Teo's last move before he will face one of the champions if he'll overcome this challenge successfully.

^^ Looking at the odds of Warrington vs Lopez, it seems that they are very close, 1.77 for Josh and then Luis at 2.02.

So yeah, why not? possible that there could be an upset in this fight. As for the Teo Lopez vs Martin, I think that Lopez will beat Martin but it could be a war as Martin is very tough fighter.

For Crawford vs Avanesyan, not seeing any upset, Bud will figure out David maybe in the next 2-3 round and then adjust and win maybe by stoppage late in the rounds.

Bitcointalk boxing enthusiasts, here are the events for this week. After tomorrow's match between France and England, it's good to see some brawls.

Josh Warrington to lose the belt to Luis Alberto Lopez.

It is challenging to oppose Terrence Crawford. His first fight since leaving Top Rank is this one. Avanesyan will be utterly destroyed by Terrence in the middle rounds. 

Teofimo Lopez is returning again. I would not write off his adversary. I wish to see Sandor Martin surprise his cocky opponent.

That was the first time Manny was knocked out cold.  It is a perfect timing for Marquez and a great way to supposedly extend the fight for quintology but then Marquez just doesn't want to extend the series anymore.  Manny was actually leading that fight and Marquez's nose is possibly broken in that fight.  But well that is a good way to put a period in a great tetralogy of the Pacquiao-Marquez fight.


If one of these two boxers losses, I think Crawford vs. Spence will not happen instead the one who wins will replace the place of the loser in that possible unification welterweight title bout. They need to keep the adrenaline high, and continuing the Crawford VS Spence idea when one of them had lost to their opponent will not be that excited anymore.

Well, that Pacquiao fight lying there is something that doesn't look very good, with respect to what you say about Crawford vs. Spence, do you think that if Crawford wins his previous fight but Spence loses, do you think this match can take place? If so, do you think Crawford will look for him again? because it's not to speculate too much, but I think Crawford did everything possible to have his fight against Spence, sometimes I don't understand what Spence wants, I sometimes don't see what he's really looking for, Crawford's yes It's clear to me, it's obvious that he wants a rematch at any rate, and I want that to happen quickly.


well Haney is not a total fighter, he knows what he has to do, he has to be 100% of everything to be able to have a good fight against Loma, also, this fight would draw the attention not only of the most fans but of practically everyone The bettors will be delirious with this match so good and so gratifying, for me it will be one of the best if it happens, obviously I think that I would go for Hanney here because he has much more experience and I think he could know how to handle the situation, for me It is something that has a lot to do with what Hanney wants to show here, Loma is an opportunity that he also has to show that he is here to stay.

Again, for the Teo "The Takeover" Lopez fans out there, here is their official weigh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8v2_YQ3GIs

Martin though looks out of shape, not the boxer shape that we all expecting in a weigh in buy hey it's a very effective method for him and could be deceiving in opponent because it might give them the impression that this fighter is not tough. But we have seen what he did to Mickey Garcia.

As for Lopez, he looks very sharp the usual and I think this is going to be a very good fight to watch but Lopez edging Martin in the latter rounds or it could be a decision win for Teo here.

Yes, why it is postponed again, it's weird that it is the second time, is Taylor injured or need more time to prepare?

If that is the case then, he is not ready and might lost to Jack, and that 140 lbs weight, yeah, possible that he can't made it anymore, maybe his body can't squeeze and it was already suspect the same issue during their first fight that's why he narrowly win their fight.

So let's see if they will finally have the match late february or early march, might be good to bet on the underdog?

Still to early for Devin Haney to move up to the next weight class, I mean, they should think about it well because the lightweight division right now is packed with good boxers that also have their own fan bases so that really means money that will likely be wasted. Might be best for him to take advantage and do some clean-up before vacating his position.

And for Haney vs Loma fight, that will be a big money fight for sure and best to make it happen while there's still a lot of people who are asking for it. But I'm not that sure if Haney's camp are also interested because there's a rumor right now that his camp is eyeing for Shakur Stevenson.

I agree both on your opinions, Haney's camp should take a closer look with the flowing money that will come to their pocket if they will accept the fight, the hypes are already inside it's just the negotiations at finality of the contract deal is what the fans is waiting, it's a long been waited title match between these two fighters and now that they are already have this opportunities better to give it all back to the fans who would love to see them showing their skills and strategies.

It is a wise decision to fight Loma first before moving up.  I bet Haney's camp is considering the money flow options since fighting Loma will definitely cater lots of audiences, it may possibly be one of the best selling PPV that year because their fight has long been awaited by fans and spectators.


I do hope that Haney will give Loma a chance to have a shot on the title before Haney consider to move up in division. And it would be a shame and a lost of huge money if Haney decided to move up just to evade Lomachenco.

For those who are waiting for the Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall rematch, it is reported that the fight is going to be rescheduled again,


https://www.boxingscene.com/taylor-catterall-rematch-pushed-back-from-february-4-date-tbd-february-march--170949

There's a lot of speculation as why the fight is going to be resched again, someone commented to give time for Taylor to make weight hehehe. But it could be true, maybe Taylor's body is having difficult time to make 140 lbs anymore and it could be one factor that he almost lost to Jack the first time.

That might be the case but I don't really think that there is a point for him to hide his strength or power right now as he is looking for more future fights. Hiding his power will give him less opportunities because people won't hype him that much because they will think that Loma's already an old news and there's nothing to expect from him anymore.

It will be much better for him to show what he is made of really because that will send a message and people will start calling a fight with the heavy names in the same division as Loma's like Haney or Tank or the nearest belt contender to replace them. Just maybe though, maybe he is not the Loma we've known now.

Money wise, Haney should take this fight instead of moving up. I mean, knowing how fans are eager to see Loma challenging the belt holder, for sure it can easily be sold to all those fans who are waiting for this fight to take place. Though it's still Haney's camp to decide whether to negotiate and sign this mandatory fight or to move up and find another alternative to avoid fighting.

All will be decided when both camps signed the deal and the promoters start to market the fight between these two top fighters.

Maybe it's the ring rust and of course, his mindset isn't 100% due to the war. Also, Vassily Lomachenko is already in his mid-30s, his IQ is still there but his physical abilities is starting to decline and he isn't the guy that has 1 punch KO that scares opponents. Maybe Loma is saving some of his techniques so Haney cannot figure it out. Haney won't duck Loma because it is the WBO mandatory unless he is moving up in weight which might be an option since he did struggle in weight during his rematch with Kambosos. 

I really don't expect much from Vasiliy Lomachenko that much and even though the fight did not end viciously I really  think he doesn't need to do something like that or maybe he is hiding what he can truly do with Ortiz so some opponent will not evade him to fight I really think some boxer will not really play his ace card inside the ring or I may be wrong or he isn't really vicious enough,


Yup! it was really frustrating and all the promoters of that event say that Casimero really did a Rabbit punch upon reviewing the video, they all know that Casimero is pretty much dominated the whole fight, but they surely think of throwing the towel off Akaho because he can not get up anymore but in doing this pretty much Akaho would also suggest that he had lost the fight but instead the time ended for the 2nd round so the fight was a no contest and the referee announced that it was a punch on the back of the head of Akaho but the promoters don't really know what to do but the judge will be the referee in charge that is why they can not change the given decision towards the fight,

What have to happen many were in disbelief and were really upset about it pretty much many people not only in the Filipino community but other countries have found that Casimero was the one that win that fight, but sad to say the decision can not be changed but because of this incident and upon seeing the boxing record site John Riel Casimero's rating just only increase and Ryo Akaho's rating decreases and many promoters just want Casimero so it is still a win for him,

No doubt about his capabilities in his new division, with what we've seen from that last fight. Casimero really bring the entertainment.
to his fans and all those viewers who supported the fight.

It's just Akaho who kills the enjoyment with how he reacts, that kind of gestures humiliate him in front of all the people who watched the fight.

He should continue and be a real fighter who is ready to do whatever will happen. If he can't hold, then let Casimero win the fight.

I have an interesting news that I want to share

It seems here that Lomachenko has to wait another couple of months before he can have a showdown with the undisputed champion, Devin Haney.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/devin-haney-vs-shakur-stevenson-agree-to-move-lomachenko-to-the-side/

As we all know Shakur just recently declared that he will climb the next division because he cannot shrink his weight anymore to contest a fight on 130 lbs and so up to this date, he haven't got any fights yet in the lightweight division. If this deal will really go through. Shakur will be having a huge leap because he will be fighting the undispute champion directly.

What do you think guys? Will Bob Arum agree put a side a money-fight (Haney-Loma) just because Haney and his camp wanted to fight Stevenson first?