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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 27, 2023, 08:08:55 PM

Quote from: danherbias07 on January 26, 2023, 07:25:16 AM

Beterbiev is 38 years old, and Yarde is 31 years old. Big difference in the age gap but Yarde said he is faster and younger and although Beterbiev is undefeated he will take advantage of this opportunity given to him. 3 titles in one match, this will be a big one if he wins this match. A big "if".

Power > Speed (at least for me)

Speed doesn't matter for me if you can get knocked out in one power punch by your opponent. Beterbiev isn't throwing that much punches, but each of his punches is very strong that it can knock you out. That's why all of Beterbiev's wins are all coming from Knockout.

On the other hand, let's still not forget that anything can happen in basketball as well as in boxing. We've seen some upsets in the past years and this fight might be as well, but the chances of it to happen? Close to zero and even though the odds are kind of low, I might put a bet on Beterbiev on this one

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I put my money on Beterbiev too as I don't believe speed can win fights in boxing. The KO puncher is what I am always expecting to win matches like this.
But, the odds are too low and it's not really rewarding so I am making it a parlay on the co-main event between Artem Dalakian vs David Jimenez.
I got a total of @1.94 because of that.
Well, I just need Dalakian to win first then we will see if the parlay will connect. Because the bookies seem really sure that Beterbiev will win the next one.
It also gives me a window for cash out if ever the fight goes sideways on my bet.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 26, 2023, 07:25:16 AM

Beterbiev is 38 years old, and Yarde is 31 years old. Big difference in the age gap but Yarde said he is faster and younger and although Beterbiev is undefeated he will take advantage of this opportunity given to him. 3 titles in one match, this will be a big one if he wins this match. A big "if".

Power > Speed (at least for me)

Speed doesn't matter for me if you can get knocked out in one power punch by your opponent. Beterbiev isn't throwing that much punches, but each of his punches is very strong that it can knock you out. That's why all of Beterbiev's wins are all coming from Knockout.

On the other hand, let's still not forget that anything can happen in basketball as well as in boxing. We've seen some upsets in the past years and this fight might be as well, but the chances of it to happen? Close to zero and even though the odds are kind of low, I might put a bet on Beterbiev on this one

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Since I have read that Nery already has a scheduled bout against Azat Hovhannisyan, then it means obviously that they don't want to fight Casimero as there is no bearing fighting a lower rank where Nery is already at the top rank.

If that's the case, Casimero should choose another boxer below rank to Nery and have no choice but to have more winnings in able to get a chance to face a top contender. Hopefully this year, Casimero can close at least 2 fights and win it in order to get a recognition.

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What's done and done and that match won't happen again. I don't think that he'll ever chase Casimero as he's done with him, and Casimero's career.
He still got a few years left to prove himself and I'm sure that the fire that he's got inside after the two losses that he's got from Inoue, it will brought on with the possible upcoming fight that he's got for the vacated title that Inoue has left.

The only boxer I see winning because he punches to the back of the head although it is just a graze because the real thing that happens is Ryo Akaho just acted that Casimero hit him in the back of his head, yeah acting that he was hit on the back of the head, this is because Akaho was a great and brilliant actor that I think deserves an award,

Well, John Riel Casimero can not change the past any more than fight with Paul Butler and after that a clash with Naoya Inoue I think it will never happen because Naoya Inoue is now going up the division to unified the belts in that division aswell, if he can,

Quote from: Kemarit on January 25, 2023, 11:32:42 AM

I like this fight because Casimero and Nery if I'm not mistaken, has been talking trash even before Casimero moved to 122 lbs. But it was during that time that Nery won the WBC super bantamweight title in 2020. However, he lost the belt to Brandon Figueroa in his next fight and the two stop their public brawl. But I still wouldn't mind seeing a Mexican warrior fought Casimero now. It will be a good name for Casimero if he wins against Nery and he could be a step closer to his goal of fighting for a belt in super bantamweight, so yeah, why not.

There is no official news or announcement about that fight, but these two are getting on beef at each other on social media, and many are surely intrigued about the situation that these two are getting at, may be a great fight to see and an opportunity for John Riel Casimero to get up the rankings faster, but I really doubt Luis Nery would fight a lower rank Casimero and risk it just because of their beef, but who knows, some sponsor would surely like to see that fight and maybe we could see that for sure, in the future,

On the contrary, Nery will be facing Azat Hovhannisyan on February 18.

And if ever he wins this fight, he is looking at both champions, Stephen Fulton or Murodjon Akhmadaliev to be his next opponent and claim his belt back.

I haven't check Hovhannisyan but he seems to be rated number 2 by WBC and number 1 by WBA, so he is a great boxer. And with that, I'm seeing a great war between this two, might go for the full 12 rounds though.

I would like to see another war here, Nery is known to be a warrior, just check his fight with Brandon Figueroa. Just two boxers going at each other and throwing leather and not playing any defense hehehe.

So I do agree that this fight might go to 12 rounds or Hovhannisyan though is the older of the two and maybe bettors should look at this factor, just saying. But he is more a methodical fighter as compare to Nery who just throw bombs after bombs. So it's a clash of styles that's why this fight is going to be good to watch.

On the contrary, I have change my mind, I'm seeing that Hovhannisyan has a good chance to score a knockout hehehe.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on January 27, 2023, 06:12:21 PM

That super champion is the shortcut for Inoue to move up and be the top contender on the next weight division. We may call it perk or advantage but still, it is a shortcut because he is cutting lines of the top contender on that division to fight for the title bout.

I don't think we can consider it a shortcut. Cutting lines on other contenders? Honestly, Inoue is already overqualified that's why it just makes sense for him to be up against a champion already at the Super Bantamweight. Again, 118 to 122 doesn't really have that difference that's why it should be obvious that Inoue, after moving up to 122 as a unified bantamweight champion with no loss record, can consider a top contender already at that weight.

Honestly, just be grateful since Bob Arum agrees to negotiate this fight as early as Inoue moved up since as we know, Arum's Top Rank doesn't really do business with PBC. They gave the fans the most requested fight once Inoue moved up and we will now witness it in a few months.

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Quote from: Japinat on January 26, 2023, 02:42:57 PM

Inoue is not having any shortcuts or some short route just to have his own way, that would be unjustifiable, correct term of that is Inoue got the advantage/perks and favored to be a super-champion to call for a fight with Fulton because he deserve and earned his place as he managed to become the undisputed boxer in the bantamweight division. For Casimero, maybe one or two more succesful fights, he will have his chance to be a title challenger.

That super champion is the shortcut for Inoue to move up and be the top contender on the next weight division. We may call it perk or advantage but still, it is a shortcut because he is cutting lines of the top contender on that division to fight for the title bout. But compared to Casimero, I do think that Inoue has more right for the title bout against Fulton since Inoue has been the undisputed champion of the 118 lbs while Casimero was stripped of his 118 lbs title.

I still wanted to see the fight between Casimero and Inoue happen to stop the circulating rumors that Casimero can beat Inoue and make it a fact or a myth.

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I am still hesitant whether Inoue will dominate the 122 lbs unless he beats Casimero. You can win the belt but unless you beat all the possible contender, there is no way to say that a boxer dominates that weight category since there is still 1 what if that is left which cause doubt in the mind of the boxing fans.

Bantamweight and SuperBantamweight don't really have much of a big difference. Inoue has a big chance of dominating the 122 lbs.

But John Riel Casimero as a basis for it? That was a pure non-sense argument. I like our own Casimero to face Inoue in the future and will support him obviously but for him to consider a big threat to Inoue seems not appropriate. Blame their camp because Casimero wasn't able to get the chance of facing Inoue in the Bantamweight.

As I mentioned, for that Casimero to be included in the discussion again, he just needs to keep on winnings until being recognized and moved up the rankings. There are lots of tough boxers in the 122 lbs aside from Inoue and those current champions.

Precisely! there are champions from this division they are the threat to be consider once Inoue start challenging them to have that chance to unify all the belts from this division, I don't see Casimero yet as he don't have that title and his ranking is far from anyone, he can fight and there's no doubt but to earn that respect and to move his way up, he needs to fight and win more.

For now, it will be depends on who will be the camp that Bob Arum will negotiate to challenge the current belt holder.

In short, Inoue already proved himself because he managed to defeat most of the boxers at 118 lbs that's why he is not campaigning at 122 lbs to see if his prowess can still keep up with the heavy names in the stated division. But for Casimero, aside from he is starting at the bottom this time, he should get himself recognize by winning more fights before we can say that he is indeed one of the threats in the division that a champion needs to face before he will be considered as the undisputed.

Simple as that, Casimero needs to keep on winning to bring his rank up and to have that chance to challenge a top caliber contender from this division for him to get that access to negotiate and challenge the belt holder, unlike with Inoue who can shortcut his way to challenge whoever he wanted, either a belt holder or another known name from this division.

Inoue is not having any shortcuts or some short route just to have his own way, that would be unjustifiable, correct term of that is Inoue got the advantage/perks and favored to be a super-champion to call for a fight with Fulton because he deserve and earned his place as he managed to become the undisputed boxer in the bantamweight division. For Casimero, maybe one or two more succesful fights, he will have his chance to be a title challenger.

Thanks for correcting, maybe that's much clear since Inoue earn that rank after being a champ from his last division, he have the right to challenge and negotiate with the current champion, it's advantage indeed as he's trying to win also the belt from this division and maybe trying to duplicate what he achieved from his last division, unifying all the belts is not by far currently he needed to fight two champions and if he manage to beat Fulton once or maybe twice since a rematch can be part of the contract.

After that he can challenge Akhmadalie to take the WBA title after earning the WBC from Fulton, not easy but if Arum is creating a new version of Pacquiao, Inoue might be pushing forward to achieve the best achievements that he can in his boxing career,.

Indeed, and it's not that new anymore to see some champions challenging other champions in the next weight class and to name a few, just like Canelo when he fought Kovalev and Pacquiao when he fought various boxers in the upper category just by having a single belt. So, what Inoue is taking now is just like what Pacquiao did but the difference is the latter didn't stay that long until he managed to be a champion at welter and super-welter division.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 26, 2023, 05:40:15 AM

On the contrary, Nery will be facing Azat Hovhannisyan on February 18.

And if ever he wins this fight, he is looking at both champions, Stephen Fulton or Murodjon Akhmadaliev to be his next opponent and claim his belt back.

I haven't check Hovhannisyan but he seems to be rated number 2 by WBC and number 1 by WBA, so he is a great boxer. And with that, I'm seeing a great war between this two, might go for the full 12 rounds though.

Luis Nery will surely go for a fight that he will surely benefit so instead of going with the John Riel Casimero fight he will go with a champion fight for the belt, that is a highly unlikely thing to do when you want to get a belt and surely who would not want that, but if the Organization would likely give a mandatory fight for him he would surely need to comply,

Here is my pick for the boxing fight today for the Beterbiev vs. Yarde event,

Artur Beterbiev VS Anthony Yarde

The stake odds for this fight are 1.13 for Beterbiev and 5.60 for Yarde, this is going to be a heated battle I have faith in Beterbiev's punching power and that calculating rhythm that he got versus Yarde, so for me this is a win for Artur Beterbiev, but surely the Odds are too high for him that it is not really profitable straight betting for him so I will bet with Winner and Round Range so I will be Artur Beterbiev for sure and Round Range will be 7 - 9,

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 27, 2023, 06:04:17 AM

Quote from: stadus on January 26, 2023, 01:38:39 PM

We already know Bob Arum and I'm quite sure that there will be a rematch clause in this fight because even if they are just the challenger, it's still risky on their side because the reputation and value will be heavily affected. Inoue might remain as the #1 contender but a loss is a loss and he will need to prove his name again as it's also the only way towards the top.

Let's say there is no clause about the rematch. It will still depend on the champs camp to decide if it should happen.
I mean, what if Stephen Fulton wins and he felt like there's a chance for Inoue to defeat him on the next one? They would rather let him work his way up by defeating some of the higher contenders who are also asking for a chance at a title match than a rematch so they could prepare more and learn his movements while he is trying to go back up.
I do believe that even if Inoue loses this fight it will mark a great surprise to the champion that will affect the decision for a rematch. They might say no and protect the title, making a reason of "get in line, you are already defeated".

If Fulton is thinking of the money the he can make on a rematch, I think he will give Inoue a chance to make it happen. Inoue will definitely give him some problem, but of course, although Inoue is the heavy favorite, we still cannot guarantee if he will win this fight. Let's just wait for the outcome and let the promoters do their job as I'm sure they'll try to make more money, so rematch is definitely possible.

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Quote from: stadus on January 26, 2023, 01:38:39 PM

We already know Bob Arum and I'm quite sure that there will be a rematch clause in this fight because even if they are just the challenger, it's still risky on their side because the reputation and value will be heavily affected. Inoue might remain as the #1 contender but a loss is a loss and he will need to prove his name again as it's also the only way towards the top.

Let's say there is no clause about the rematch. It will still depend on the champs camp to decide if it should happen.
I mean, what if Stephen Fulton wins and he felt like there's a chance for Inoue to defeat him on the next one? They would rather let him work his way up by defeating some of the higher contenders who are also asking for a chance at a title match than a rematch so they could prepare more and learn his movements while he is trying to go back up.
I do believe that even if Inoue loses this fight it will mark a great surprise to the champion that will affect the decision for a rematch. They might say no and protect the title, making a reason of "get in line, you are already defeated".

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Crazy that Tommy Fury pulled out of his fight with Jake Paul for the third time. I think he’s using Jake Paul’s name to try and become relevant but he knows he can’t box so he’s just dragging this dude out as long as possible to get people to say his name. At this point Tommy Fury looks like a fake boxer. He keeps dropping the chance to secure the biggest bag of his life. He should just take the ass beating and collect a check. This is getting embarrassing.

Well, That's just how they want to be known but this will not last for long because we all know who is the real celebrity here and that would be Jake Paul, this will not be a loss against him because he can choose his next opponent in the future.

They really need to consider moving on from this fight because this is really not that important like the Spence and Crawford fight. He can go back and look for some UFC fighters and offer them some huge cash just to fight him.

I think he is build differently from Tyson, and probably just using that name to have this kind of reputation. But he is not into boxing or whatever sports and that's why he has pulled again and doesn't want any of Jake Paul power and he didn't want to get punch in the face or get damage.

Regarding if there is a rematch clause between Inoue and Fulton, probably Arum will place that one on Fulton.

But it is good if there are none, so if Inoue lost then he has to go back and try to earn that spot once more because he has been given this chance to fight for the belt moving up.

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I am still hesitant whether Inoue will dominate the 122 lbs unless he beats Casimero. You can win the belt but unless you beat all the possible contender, there is no way to say that a boxer dominates that weight category since there is still 1 what if that is left which cause doubt in the mind of the boxing fans.

Bantamweight and SuperBantamweight don't really have much of a big difference. Inoue has a big chance of dominating the 122 lbs.

But John Riel Casimero as a basis for it? That was a pure non-sense argument. I like our own Casimero to face Inoue in the future and will support him obviously but for him to consider a big threat to Inoue seems not appropriate. Blame their camp because Casimero wasn't able to get the chance of facing Inoue in the Bantamweight.

As I mentioned, for that Casimero to be included in the discussion again, he just needs to keep on winnings until being recognized and moved up the rankings. There are lots of tough boxers in the 122 lbs aside from Inoue and those current champions.

Precisely! there are champions from this division they are the threat to be consider once Inoue start challenging them to have that chance to unify all the belts from this division, I don't see Casimero yet as he don't have that title and his ranking is far from anyone, he can fight and there's no doubt but to earn that respect and to move his way up, he needs to fight and win more.

For now, it will be depends on who will be the camp that Bob Arum will negotiate to challenge the current belt holder.

In short, Inoue already proved himself because he managed to defeat most of the boxers at 118 lbs that's why he is not campaigning at 122 lbs to see if his prowess can still keep up with the heavy names in the stated division. But for Casimero, aside from he is starting at the bottom this time, he should get himself recognize by winning more fights before we can say that he is indeed one of the threats in the division that a champion needs to face before he will be considered as the undisputed.

Simple as that, Casimero needs to keep on winning to bring his rank up and to have that chance to challenge a top caliber contender from this division for him to get that access to negotiate and challenge the belt holder, unlike with Inoue who can shortcut his way to challenge whoever he wanted, either a belt holder or another known name from this division.

Inoue is not having any shortcuts or some short route just to have his own way, that would be unjustifiable, correct term of that is Inoue got the advantage/perks and favored to be a super-champion to call for a fight with Fulton because he deserve and earned his place as he managed to become the undisputed boxer in the bantamweight division. For Casimero, maybe one or two more succesful fights, he will have his chance to be a title challenger.

Thanks for correcting, maybe that's much clear since Inoue earn that rank after being a champ from his last division, he have the right to challenge and negotiate with the current champion, it's advantage indeed as he's trying to win also the belt from this division and maybe trying to duplicate what he achieved from his last division, unifying all the belts is not by far currently he needed to fight two champions and if he manage to beat Fulton once or maybe twice since a rematch can be part of the contract.

After that he can challenge Akhmadalie to take the WBA title after earning the WBC from Fulton, not easy but if Arum is creating a new version of Pacquiao, Inoue might be pushing forward to achieve the best achievements that he can in his boxing career,.

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I am still hesitant whether Inoue will dominate the 122 lbs unless he beats Casimero. You can win the belt but unless you beat all the possible contender, there is no way to say that a boxer dominates that weight category since there is still 1 what if that is left which cause doubt in the mind of the boxing fans.

Bantamweight and SuperBantamweight don't really have much of a big difference. Inoue has a big chance of dominating the 122 lbs.

But John Riel Casimero as a basis for it? That was a pure non-sense argument. I like our own Casimero to face Inoue in the future and will support him obviously but for him to consider a big threat to Inoue seems not appropriate. Blame their camp because Casimero wasn't able to get the chance of facing Inoue in the Bantamweight.

As I mentioned, for that Casimero to be included in the discussion again, he just needs to keep on winnings until being recognized and moved up the rankings. There are lots of tough boxers in the 122 lbs aside from Inoue and those current champions.

Precisely! there are champions from this division they are the threat to be consider once Inoue start challenging them to have that chance to unify all the belts from this division, I don't see Casimero yet as he don't have that title and his ranking is far from anyone, he can fight and there's no doubt but to earn that respect and to move his way up, he needs to fight and win more.

For now, it will be depends on who will be the camp that Bob Arum will negotiate to challenge the current belt holder.

In short, Inoue already proved himself because he managed to defeat most of the boxers at 118 lbs that's why he is not campaigning at 122 lbs to see if his prowess can still keep up with the heavy names in the stated division. But for Casimero, aside from he is starting at the bottom this time, he should get himself recognize by winning more fights before we can say that he is indeed one of the threats in the division that a champion needs to face before he will be considered as the undisputed.

Simple as that, Casimero needs to keep on winning to bring his rank up and to have that chance to challenge a top caliber contender from this division for him to get that access to negotiate and challenge the belt holder, unlike with Inoue who can shortcut his way to challenge whoever he wanted, either a belt holder or another known name from this division.

Inoue is not having any shortcuts or some short route just to have his own way, that would be unjustifiable, correct term of that is Inoue got the advantage/perks and favored to be a super-champion to call for a fight with Fulton because he deserve and earned his place as he managed to become the undisputed boxer in the bantamweight division. For Casimero, maybe one or two more succesful fights, he will have his chance to be a title challenger.

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Just hope for the best and who knows maybe they are really destined to meet inside the ring, they just both need to win and let time dictates their fate.

Casimero is the one that badly needed to always win as Inoue is currently at the top now.

If Inoue will face his first defeat in the hands of Moloney, I'm seeing that Inoue will still be the Rank 1 contender and the rematch might happen.

Yup, Inoue can still do that if in case he might suffer from a defeat against the champ, he can ask for a rematch or it can be added from the contract that they will be signing. A rematch will bring them more money something that will give Arum a better interest to deal Inoue, just my own opinion..

We already know Bob Arum and I'm quite sure that there will be a rematch clause in this fight because even if they are just the challenger, it's still risky on their side because the reputation and value will be heavily affected. Inoue might remain as the #1 contender but a loss is a loss and he will need to prove his name again as it's also the only way towards the top.

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Main Event. Artur Beterbiev vs Anthony Yarde
3 unified Light Heavyweight titles (WBC, WBO, IBF) will be in line on Saturday at 8 PM London Time, 3 PM Eastern Time, and 4 AM Sunday, Philippines time GMT +8.
Co-main event. Artem Dalakian vs David Jimenez - WBA Flyweight title.
Undercards.
Karol Itauma vs Ezequiel Osvaldo Maderna
Charles Frankham vs Joshua Ocampo
Umar Khan vs Sandeep Singh Bhatti
Sean Noakes vs Santiago Garces
Tommy Fletcher vs Darryl Sharp
Masood Abdulah vs Lesther Lara
Joshua Frankham vs Joe Hardy
Khalid Ali vs Ivica Gogosevic
Moses Itauma vs Marcel Bode

https://twitter.com/BTSportBoxing/status/1617515208158625792?s=20&t=ozuBhLx-VDDLu0osRSaAFg

Beterbiev is 38 years old, and Yarde is 31 years old. Big difference in the age gap but Yarde said he is faster and younger and although Beterbiev is undefeated he will take advantage of this opportunity given to him. 3 titles in one match, this will be a big one if he wins this match. A big "if".
Odds: Stake.com
Beterbiev - 1.13 vs Yarde 5.60
Dalakian - 1.72 vs Jimenez 2.09

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 25, 2023, 01:18:59 PM

Crazy that Tommy Fury pulled out of his fight with Jake Paul for the third time. I think he’s using Jake Paul’s name to try and become relevant but he knows he can’t box so he’s just dragging this dude out as long as possible to get people to say his name. At this point Tommy Fury looks like a fake boxer. He keeps dropping the chance to secure the biggest bag of his life. He should just take the ass beating and collect a check. This is getting embarrassing.

Well, That's just how they want to be known but this will not last for long because we all know who is the real celebrity here and that would be Jake Paul, this will not be a loss against him because he can choose his next opponent in the future.

They really need to consider moving on from this fight because this is really not that important like the Spence and Crawford fight. He can go back and look for some UFC fighters and offer them some huge cash just to fight him.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 25, 2023, 11:19:09 PM

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What's done and done and that match won't happen again. I don't think that he'll ever chase Casimero as he's done with him, and Casimero's career.
He still got a few years left to prove himself and I'm sure that the fire that he's got inside after the two losses that he's got from Inoue, it will brought on with the possible upcoming fight that he's got for the vacated title that Inoue has left.

The only boxer I see winning because he punches to the back of the head although it is just a graze because the real thing that happens is Ryo Akaho just acted that Casimero hit him in the back of his head, yeah acting that he was hit on the back of the head, this is because Akaho was a great and brilliant actor that I think deserves an award,

Well, John Riel Casimero can not change the past any more than fight with Paul Butler and after that a clash with Naoya Inoue I think it will never happen because Naoya Inoue is now going up the division to unified the belts in that division aswell, if he can,

Quote from: Kemarit on January 25, 2023, 11:32:42 AM

I like this fight because Casimero and Nery if I'm not mistaken, has been talking trash even before Casimero moved to 122 lbs. But it was during that time that Nery won the WBC super bantamweight title in 2020. However, he lost the belt to Brandon Figueroa in his next fight and the two stop their public brawl. But I still wouldn't mind seeing a Mexican warrior fought Casimero now. It will be a good name for Casimero if he wins against Nery and he could be a step closer to his goal of fighting for a belt in super bantamweight, so yeah, why not.

There is no official news or announcement about that fight, but these two are getting on beef at each other on social media, and many are surely intrigued about the situation that these two are getting at, may be a great fight to see and an opportunity for John Riel Casimero to get up the rankings faster, but I really doubt Luis Nery would fight a lower rank Casimero and risk it just because of their beef, but who knows, some sponsor would surely like to see that fight and maybe we could see that for sure, in the future,

On the contrary, Nery will be facing Azat Hovhannisyan on February 18.

And if ever he wins this fight, he is looking at both champions, Stephen Fulton or Murodjon Akhmadaliev to be his next opponent and claim his belt back.

I haven't check Hovhannisyan but he seems to be rated number 2 by WBC and number 1 by WBA, so he is a great boxer. And with that, I'm seeing a great war between this two, might go for the full 12 rounds though.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 25, 2023, 01:18:59 PM

Crazy that Tommy Fury pulled out of his fight with Jake Paul for the third time. I think he’s using Jake Paul’s name to try and become relevant but he knows he can’t box so he’s just dragging this dude out as long as possible to get people to say his name. At this point Tommy Fury looks like a fake boxer. He keeps dropping the chance to secure the biggest bag of his life. He should just take the ass beating and collect a check. This is getting embarrassing.

Well that's the clear thing here because one is good 2 is enough , and now for the 3rd time? this is truly an irrelevant no matter what is His reason.
this is a clear popularization from his part and the team , though we are not sure if they are both using each others or they are just trying to find more support from the fans and bettor so they wanna make more noise before the fight finally happens.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 25, 2023, 05:09:57 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on January 25, 2023, 01:30:20 PM

Even Casimero was a former champion he can't ask for a shortcut since he move up to this division without holding a belt if he's just wise and he move up before that mandatory fight, maybe the chance of winning the current belt is possible for him, but that's happen from the past and we can't compare both Inoue and Casimero in this division they are different in terms of ranking.

Who said that Casimero's camp is asking for shortcuts?

They are always silent when began stepping into 122 lbs. Even the talks with Akaho just come out of surprise. They surely know what they are doing for Casimero to be included again in the top rankings. For now, they are trying to negotiate as much as possible with those boxers above him. Currently, at WBC, he has now ranked 8, and after another 2 to 3 fights and won it, he might end up in 2nd or 3rd rank.

He's not, I believe they will continue to keep fighting and hope to win those fights to make sure Casimero will be one of those good contender for the title match, right now he only got one fight but it reflect right away that he can really compete with a much bigger and much heavier opponent compare from how he started his career.

Quote from: Fredomago on January 25, 2023, 01:30:20 PM

Just hope for the best and who knows maybe they are really destined to meet inside the ring, they just both need to win and let time dictates their fate.

Casimero is the one that badly needed to always win as Inoue is currently at the top now.

If Inoue will face his first defeat in the hands of Moloney, I'm seeing that Inoue will still be the Rank 1 contender and the rematch might happen.

Yup, Inoue can still do that if in case he might suffer from a defeat against the champ, he can ask for a rematch or it can be added from the contract that they will be signing. A rematch will bring them more money something that will give Arum a better interest to deal Inoue, just my own opinion..

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