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November 28, 2022, 09:14:30 AM
Moving on, what's our next big fight?
I don't really know what's the criteria of big fight do you want, if you're only looking for popular boxers then it's a lot but the odds is really small and doesn't worth to bet since it's less than 1.15x like Tyson Fury, Teofimo Lopez, Terence Crawford and Naoya Inoue.

But if you're looking for better odds you can check a fight between Chocolatito vs Estrada, Charlo vs Tszyu and Warrington vs Luiz Lopez. There's so many fights from popular boxers will happen in this month.

Let's not forget the John Riel Casimero vs Ryo Akaho fight this Saturday @ 4AM ET at Incheon, South Korea

5 days left but their odds is not yet listed on my betting platform, maybe the bookies will list this bout in like 48 hours before their fight begins. This is interesting to see because it is somehow personal for Casimero because he need to avenge his fellow countrymen who fell in the hands of Akaho and this fight will determine Casimero's future in the industry. Failure to win will cause him his career.
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November 28, 2022, 03:49:09 AM
Moving on, what's our next big fight?
I don't really know what's the criteria of big fight do you want, if you're only looking for popular boxers then it's a lot but the odds is really small and doesn't worth to bet since it's less than 1.15x like Tyson Fury, Teofimo Lopez, Terence Crawford and Naoya Inoue.

But if you're looking for better odds you can check a fight between Chocolatito vs Estrada, Charlo vs Tszyu and Warrington vs Luiz Lopez. There's so many fights from popular boxers will happen in this month.
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November 27, 2022, 11:34:38 PM
^^ Yes mate, I also lost on this one, I thought that Zepeda has something to offer and more, but he seems to be shot at 33 years of age. Both are tough, Prograis is obviously more durable and the fresher as we enter the 11th round and then score the knock out win.

Zepeda seems to be running out of gas, he has a good counter but not enough damage on Prograis that's why the accumulation of punches and fatigue really drain everything out of Chon. Congrats to Prograis, this is pretty much stack up division so let's see who will be next for him.
Yes, and Zepeda's urgency to get back in the scorecards is not seen. He is not that aggressive anymore in the last round of the game except for that round 10. His corner might be feeding him the wrong information about how he is behind so that he could be pushed to throw more punches.
One jab then defense, that's all he did in round 11 while Prograis is circling around trying to look for an opening.
Even if it went to a decision, it's obvious who will win the match.

Moving on, what's our next big fight?
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November 27, 2022, 09:01:04 PM

Yes, sort of tune up fights at 140 lbs, this is his second fight if I'm not mistaken at this new division, and so this is a steady climb for him before he faces the real champion. Prograis recently win against Zepeda so that's another option for him next if he wins against a rugged Martin.

But let's see, sometimes this cherry pick fight backfire on them as their opponent has nothing to lose.

The fight between Zepeda and Prograis, is very entertaining indeed but Prograis dominated the fight.

Well, he is giving himself false hope in cherry-picking opponents but if bullying will give him the confidence to move forward in getting to an upper division maybe this will give him something, but yeah this nit-picking can sometimes backfires at you, let's just wait if Sandor Martin can pull an upset, this is boxing after all,

In the Zepeda and Prograis fight, I really thought that Jose Zepeda was doing great landing shots at 1st getting his opening, as soon Regis Prograis have seen his opening by landing big shots he even stop some of Zepeda's punches, and in the progressing rounds Prograis really did see his length and even though Zepeda is hurt you can still see him counters I really think he is a real warrior in what he has shown but yeah Prograis just seen what he really must do with the fight,


It is obvious that Teofimo Lopez will be the favorite here.  I think this won't be a walk-in-the-park fight for Lopez because Martin had proven himself to be a tough boxer.  He maybe lost 2 fights but those are via decisions.  But I think it is also isn't a tough fight for Teofimo because Martin's records show that he isn't that heavy hitter.  I think the fight would go to distance testing each boxer's stamina.


He is the favorite to win again because this is cherry-picked by him that is, Teofimo Lopez is beefed up for this fight he is really readying in progressing up the division his real target was the belt all along, well I guess he wants to get a multi-division belt as well before he retires, I really think he will also go the distance and I am guessing that Teofimo is expecting that to happen to ready himself to a much bigger opponent because Campa he just threaded him with ease this will surely will be a more different fight but still Lopez is in the advantage,

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November 27, 2022, 06:40:14 PM
^^ I thought that Devin Haney or at least their team is looking for Loma next at 135 lbs?

If they are calling Teo then they needed to go up at 140 lbs, which I think Devin doesn't have a problem. In any case, there could be some personal reasons for this, father vs father, might be a interesting story line. They will do the talking here as both very lively in the media.

So let's see first, Haney has a difficult fight in front of him in Loma 2023.

I also expecting him to face Loma after both wins from their respective fight, not sure if they change route but if there's any updates regarding to this potential fight we will hear it next year, whatever the decisions coming from his camp then so be it. As long as Haney will produce interesting fight fans will be there to watch him inside the ring.

Though, there's still pressure with Loma as he's chasing for the belts and Haney is the current holder that he needs to challenge and beat.
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November 27, 2022, 04:35:28 PM
^^ I thought that Devin Haney or at least their team is looking for Loma next at 135 lbs?

If they are calling Teo then they needed to go up at 140 lbs, which I think Devin doesn't have a problem. In any case, there could be some personal reasons for this, father vs father, might be a interesting story line. They will do the talking here as both very lively in the media.

So let's see first, Haney has a difficult fight in front of him in Loma 2023.
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November 27, 2022, 04:28:05 PM


Since the fight is already close and Martin isn't really known boxer, I decided to post this fight here. Lopez will fight against Martin in the next 2 weeks, the bookie listed Lopez is huge favorite with the odds 1.13x while Martin is an underdog with the odds 5.20x. However based on Martin performance, he's not really that weak since he have beat Mikey Garcia which is his biggest fight so far. Now he seems to be want a tougher challenge.



It is obvious that Teofimo Lopez will be the favorite here.  I think this won't be a walk-in-the-park fight for Lopez because Martin had proven himself to be a tough boxer.  He maybe lost 2 fights but those are via decisions.  But I think it is also isn't a tough fight for Teofimo because Martin's records show that he isn't that heavy hitter.  I think the fight would go to distance testing each boxer's stamina.


Again, Lopez shouldn't underestimate Martin.

I believe Lopez learned his lesson well when he lost to George Kambosos.  So we will see Lopez  on guard all the time.



Very interesting to see Lopez going back in the ring again for the second time this year, but then again it's a cherry pick fight.

Obviously, as this will warm him up, since there are news roaming the internet that Bill Haney Calls Teofimo  Lopez Sr. for the possible Haney - Lopez Jr match  provided that they both win their next match.[1]



[1] https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/11/bill-haney-tells-teofimo-lopez-sr-he-wants-to-set-up-devin-vs-teo-fight/

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November 27, 2022, 04:07:34 PM
Since the fight is already close and Martin isn't really known boxer, I decided to post this fight here. Lopez will fight against Martin in the next 2 weeks, the bookie listed Lopez is huge favorite with the odds 1.13x while Martin is an underdog with the odds 5.20x. However based on Martin performance, he's not really that weak since he have beat Mikey Garcia which is his biggest fight so far. Now he seems to be want a tougher challenge.

Again, Lopez shouldn't underestimate Martin.

Very interesting to see Lopez going back in the ring again for the second time this year, but then again it's a cherry pick fight.

Yes, I guess we can indeed call this bout as a cherry-picked fight for Teo Lopez but this is an important fight for him too because this will be Teo's preparation before he will face either of the three champions. Currently, Lopez sits 4th of the super-light rankings while Martin is at 5th. And I'm seeing that Teo is also defending the regular belt of WBO super-light.

Yes, sort of tune up fights at 140 lbs, this is his second fight if I'm not mistaken at this new division, and so this is a steady climb for him before he faces the real champion. Prograis recently win against Zepeda so that's another option for him next if he wins against a rugged Martin.

But let's see, sometimes this cherry pick fight backfire on them as their opponent has nothing to lose.

The fight between Zepeda and Prograis, is very entertaining indeed but Prograis dominated the fight.
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November 27, 2022, 01:00:05 PM
Result for Whyte vs. Franklin

Dillian Whyte DEF Jermaine Franklin
Fabio Wardley DEF Nathan Gorman
Sandy Ryan DEF Anahi Esther Sanchez
Cheavon Clarke DEF Jose Gregorio Ulrich
Pat McCormack DEF Nicolas Andino
Mark Dickinson DEF Gideon Jonas
George Liddard DEF Nikola Matic
Thomas Carty DEF Pavlo Krolenko

Craig Richards vs. Ricards Bolotniks - Canceled
Magali Rodriguez vs. Sandy Ryan - Canceled

Result for Zepeda vs. Prograis

Regis Prograis DEF Jose Zepeda
Yokasta Valle DEF Evelyn Bermudez
Charles Conwell DEF Juan Carlos Abreu
Bakhodir Jalolov DEF Curtis Harper
Fernando Vargas Jr DEF Alejandro Martinez
Eduardo Estela DEF Ruben Torres
Nathan Rodriguez DEF Jerson Ortiz
Austin Brooks DEF Jesus Roman
Mario Ramos VS Geronimo Nahuel Sacco - Waiting Results
Eric Priest DEF Luis Alberto Vera
Jacob Macalolooy DEF Terrance Jarmon
Alejandro Reyes VS Daniel Perales - Waiting Results
Amado Vargas DEF Osmar Olmos Hernandez

Alejandro Reyes vs. Nelson Morales - Canceled
Jacob Macalolooy vs. Sincere Brooks - Canceled


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November 27, 2022, 12:18:33 PM
Since the fight is already close and Martin isn't really known boxer, I decided to post this fight here. Lopez will fight against Martin in the next 2 weeks, the bookie listed Lopez is huge favorite with the odds 1.13x while Martin is an underdog with the odds 5.20x. However based on Martin performance, he's not really that weak since he have beat Mikey Garcia which is his biggest fight so far. Now he seems to be want a tougher challenge.

Again, Lopez shouldn't underestimate Martin.

Very interesting to see Lopez going back in the ring again for the second time this year, but then again it's a cherry pick fight.

Yes, I guess we can indeed call this bout as a cherry-picked fight for Teo Lopez but this is an important fight for him too because this will be Teo's preparation before he will face either of the three champions. Currently, Lopez sits 4th of the super-light rankings while Martin is at 5th. And I'm seeing that Teo is also defending the regular belt of WBO super-light.

I guess I learned new today because I haven't know that there's a regular champion existing for the WBO belt as I only knew about the WBA regular belt that Gervonta had in the lower division. I did traced it why Lopez got that belt when in fact this bout is just his 2nd fight since he moved up and I saw that he got it against Pedro Campa because the belt was vacate at that time. Regarding to this topic for Teo's 2nd bout, I guess he won't have some hardships as well because Sandor Martin is not that much of a threat but it is better if he wouldn't underestimate him though.
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November 27, 2022, 05:27:38 AM
Since the fight is already close and Martin isn't really known boxer, I decided to post this fight here. Lopez will fight against Martin in the next 2 weeks, the bookie listed Lopez is huge favorite with the odds 1.13x while Martin is an underdog with the odds 5.20x. However based on Martin performance, he's not really that weak since he have beat Mikey Garcia which is his biggest fight so far. Now he seems to be want a tougher challenge.

Again, Lopez shouldn't underestimate Martin.

Very interesting to see Lopez going back in the ring again for the second time this year, but then again it's a cherry pick fight.

Yes, I guess we can indeed call this bout as a cherry-picked fight for Teo Lopez but this is an important fight for him too because this will be Teo's preparation before he will face either of the three champions. Currently, Lopez sits 4th of the super-light rankings while Martin is at 5th. And I'm seeing that Teo is also defending the regular belt of WBO super-light.
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November 27, 2022, 05:10:06 AM
Since the fight is already close and Martin isn't really known boxer, I decided to post this fight here. Lopez will fight against Martin in the next 2 weeks, the bookie listed Lopez is huge favorite with the odds 1.13x while Martin is an underdog with the odds 5.20x. However based on Martin performance, he's not really that weak since he have beat Mikey Garcia which is his biggest fight so far. Now he seems to be want a tougher challenge.

Again, Lopez shouldn't underestimate Martin.

Very interesting to see Lopez going back in the ring again for the second time this year, but then again it's a cherry pick fight.

Yes, Martin's resume included winning against Mikey Garcia, but then again when they fought Mikey is in the twilight of his career. And if I'm not mistaken, after this lost, he decided to quit for good. But I don't think that Martin can beat a prime Mikey Garcia, he is more tougher that anyone thought. His first defeat comes in the hands of Errol Spence when Mikey decided to move up and it was a disaster for facing the bigger and more younger Spence that time.
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November 27, 2022, 05:05:02 AM
^^ Yes mate, I also lost on this one, I thought that Zepeda has something to offer and more, but he seems to be shot at 33 years of age. Both are tough, Prograis is obviously more durable and the fresher as we enter the 11th round and then score the knock out win.

Zepeda seems to be running out of gas, he has a good counter but not enough damage on Prograis that's why the accumulation of punches and fatigue really drain everything out of Chon. Congrats to Prograis, this is pretty much stack up division so let's see who will be next for him.
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November 27, 2022, 03:22:30 AM
That's a loss for me betting for Jose Zepeda but it's okay. It was so entertaining that it reached round 11.
Zepeda was tough, that is undoubtful. I think I can only give him two rounds in that fight, especially round 10. That was awesome.
But Prograis is controlling the pace in round 11, he keeps on moving his feet, throwing combos until he got Zepeda to lower his defense.
I guess fatigue had some effect too and Zepeda is not throwing many punches on that round until he was almost knocked down when the referee stopped it.

Congratulations to all the winners of this fight.
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November 26, 2022, 11:53:31 PM


Since the fight is already close and Martin isn't really known boxer, I decided to post this fight here. Lopez will fight against Martin in the next 2 weeks, the bookie listed Lopez is huge favorite with the odds 1.13x while Martin is an underdog with the odds 5.20x. However based on Martin performance, he's not really that weak since he have beat Mikey Garcia which is his biggest fight so far. Now he seems to be want a tougher challenge.

Again, Lopez shouldn't underestimate Martin.
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November 26, 2022, 04:17:59 PM
Lol, why this thread suddenly turns into Manny Pacquiao meme? the knock out win of Marquez is already years ago?

There are good fight this weekend regarding Prograis and Zepeda, two hungry fighters who want to get the belt at 140 lbs. And so for the meantime, it might be a "relieve fight" from the failed Spence vs Crawford fight as this could really be a war.

Well, maybe reminiscing some of the Histories biggest upsets in boxing for Manny Pacquaio and that is the Juan Manuel Marquez fight, well the picture was for attention and for me I was laughing the moment I have seen it even though I already saw it on the past, it was still Iconic,

Is it the Dillian Whyte VS Jermaine Franklin fight? well if not then care to share the link,
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I got your point about that, yes it was one of the biggest that time, and it was iconic.

For the Whyte vs Franklin weigh-in, I found their official weigh-in, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCYGeVOw9qM. Just go move forward to 33:36. It was a full video of weigh in, from the undercard to the main event.

Yes, I was looking at the Prograis vs Zepeda fight this Sunday.
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November 26, 2022, 04:01:53 PM

The world was shocked with that counter and outcome of the match. When Pacquiao was owning him and leading in the perspective of many, that didn't do well when Marquez was able to see an opening and got lucky successfully by doing that punch.
It's one of the biggest match in the history of these two boxing legends that will never be forgotten. It's carved and will always be talked about when people starts talking about the greatest matches of this era.

It was really an epic win for Juan Manuel Marquez, and it will be added to history as one of the great revenge for Juan Manuel Marquez on the Boxing legend Manny Pacquaio, surely many will not forget that iconic drop of Manny where many have made some meme's about it like this one here



I know this is Manny Pacquaio we are talking about but it already happened he already lost badly to Juan Manuel Marquez and producing funny memes like this is surely hilarious, but let's wait for the new generation of boxer to put up to the challenge if they can attain the status just like Manny did,

As far as I remember when I watch this fight, Manny is leading here,  and Marquez is already bleeding.  Though they both scored a KD in the early rounds, it is obvious that Manny is dominating the fight until...  he was KOed by Marquez.  It was a timed punch, probably this is the result of Marquez's rigorous training and counter-strategy against rampaging Manny Pacquiao.  Manny always has this trait of punching continuously while moving forward leaving himself open for a counter.  I know Marquez had been simulating this kind of attack from Manny since he (Manny) always use it and well Marquez got lucky that the opportunity present this kind of situation and had Manny sleep on the canvas.

It was a horrible sight for Pacquiao fan but a beautiful scene for Marquez.  After the fight, I respected Manny more because he accepted the loss and even made fun of his scenario as a sign of moving on after the storm.



Yes, there is a potential fight for Ruiz vs Wilder and then the winner will face the Usyk vs Fury winner as well. But there are no date yet for this fight to happen, obviously, it will be next year. Ruiz vs Wilder will be very intriguing match as well, I mean Ruiz possesses one good chin, and for sure Wilder's power is going to test it. Same with Ruiz, he can knock out anyone in the Heavyweight division with just one punch, and we have seen Wilder's chin already broken by Fury. So just imagine if he can land at Wilder, for sure it will have a big effect on him. Just a a matter of time on who will caught up first and how their jaw are going to react.

In my opinion, Andy Ruiz Jr. is also a volume puncher their 2nd fight against Anthony Joshua was pretty much amazing to watch, he has the speed and the power so combined it was surely dangerous, so fighting Wilder would be a tough one for him in my opinion, we could surely see the real power of Deontay Wilder's true power when faced with Andy Ruiz, while Usyk and Fury, I can't say for sure, but I am more leaning to Tyson Fury's fight IQ and power and because for me both have the fight IQ to really dig deep on their opponent when the speed was for Usyk the power just go to Tyson Fury but I think 1 punch is what Fury needs to defeat Usyk,

There had been lots of articles and talks about the possibility of Andy Ruiz Jr. and Wilder but I do not know if both parties had agreed to this.  This would be an interesting fight since Ruiz had never been stopped before, and Wilder have a good record of almost knocking all his opponent.  So we can see whether Wilder can add Ruiz to his collection of KOed opponents.
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November 26, 2022, 02:10:03 PM

Anyway, I have given my opinion on Prograis vs Zepeda fight.
Maybe we could have some predictions on who will win this fight. Both are strong boxers, they also have that KO punch as most of their wins is from TKO.
I am thinking about betting for the underdog here, Jose Zepeda, profits are @4.30, and for the favorite Regis Prograis @1.21.
It's risky, but damn it's boxing, you'll never know.

Yeah it's boxing and once upset happened you will enjoy a lot after watching the fight, @4.30 is worth the risk as long as you are willing to let go the amount that you will going to use for this fight. Maybe Zepeda may bring his killing combination and bring Prograis down or it can be a vice versa, but along the way if you are also betting for fun then taking the underdog will let you feel that pressure.

It's really adding huge fun when you see the underdog bringing solid conversions and if luck permits and you win, the pleasure that it added to your win is something that will make you smile for the whole day.. Tongue Roll Eyes
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November 26, 2022, 07:54:33 AM

I have share the Prograis vs Zepeda, if that is what he is trying to discussed about the welterweight fight this weekend.

Although this two fell short in their attempts in the past because it was Josh Taylor who really took over this division, but now everyone has equal footing as the 3 belts is open including because Taylor vacated the belt and concentrating on defending just the WBO belt against Jack Catterall as they have a very close fight.

So maybe there are boxing fans that wanted and eagerly anticipating the Prograis vs Zepeda.

In any case, you may want to check this link: http://philboxing.com/news/story-164702.html

Oh! sorry, I should have missed it, and I thought the fight was on November 18, but right now it change to 26, well I really don't know what happen but it is a good thing that we will have the fight to look forward to this weekend, now that we don't have a UFC event for this week, at least I got to see a boxing match for me Regis Prograis could be a tough fight for Jose Zepeda given that Prograis is pretty much confidence that he will attain the belt, but for me, I like the stature and the length of Zepeda than Prograis he got the reach advantage, but they got the same age, and also he got the experience in making this happen, now that Regis Prograis has lost to Taylor, and the belt was vacated it was an opportunity for him to get the belt but I think Jose Zepeda could be highly explosive than him,



I'm not going to bet on this fight, but ever I have the chance, I will go and put money on Zepeda, he was a huge underdog and so with that, it's very attractive. I'm also surprise as you are with the odds the bookmakers are listing here, but if we can take advantage then Zepeda's bet is all worth it even if he losses this fight.

At least, we don't have to talk that much about the fight between Spence and Crawford.

They have move on and so is the fans here.

I am attractive at the odds as well and so I might have a shot at betting with Jose Zepeda, pretty much those attractive odds  it pretty much what many are after as well, and right now  think  Jose Zepeda has two advantages over Prograis in my opinion, that will be the reach and the experience, going to the fight I really like his physique, then with Regis Prograis, and not only the main event looking on the other fights as well, on this event, if there are valuable bet to get,
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November 26, 2022, 04:53:37 AM
Lol, why this thread suddenly turns into Manny Pacquiao meme? the knock out win of Marquez is already years ago?

There are good fight this weekend regarding Prograis and Zepeda, two hungry fighters who want to get the belt at 140 lbs. And so for the meantime, it might be a "relieve fight" from the failed Spence vs Crawford fight as this could really be a war.
Yeah, who started it?  Grin
But it's fun to discuss it again even for just a short while. Histories are what build the boxing industry because we tend to compare some fighters to them.
 
Anyway, I have given my opinion on Prograis vs Zepeda fight.
Maybe we could have some predictions on who will win this fight. Both are strong boxers, they also have that KO punch as most of their wins is from TKO.
I am thinking about betting for the underdog here, Jose Zepeda, profits are @4.30, and for the favorite Regis Prograis @1.21.
It's risky, but damn it's boxing, you'll never know.

I'm not going to bet on this fight, but ever I have the chance, I will go and put money on Zepeda, he was a huge underdog and so with that, it's very attractive. I'm also surprise as you are with the odds the bookmakers are listing here, but if we can take advantage then Zepeda's bet is all worth it even if he losses this fight.

At least, we don't have to talk that much about the fight between Spence and Crawford.

They have move on and so is the fans here.
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