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January 13, 2023, 01:46:27 PM
The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The thing here is if the promoter of Inoue would consider a fight with Casimero.  It was Bob Arum's fault that the second chance for both boxer to fight got dissolve.  Remember the 1st fight were canceled due to the pandemic and the second possible fight did not materialize because Bob Arum has a different thing in mind.  The fight Inoue - Moloney should be Inoue - Casimero but then Bob Arum has another plan and agreed with the Inoue - Moloney.

It is indeed easy for these to boxer to meet in the ring but their promoter made it difficult.

Bob Arum is more on the money side, if there are many readers who can be converted to a possible viewer/ticket sales, maybe Arum will consider this possibility, for now, he still leaning with his cash cow Inoue and he needs to maximize all the profits that he can earned from his champ, still have a chance for Casimero but like what I said above he need to make his way to bring his name up inside the division and force the fans to bring him to an option for Inoue's fight.
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January 13, 2023, 01:35:23 PM
The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The thing here is if the promoter of Inoue would consider a fight with Casimero.  It was Bob Arum's fault that the second chance for both boxer to fight got dissolve.  Remember the 1st fight were canceled due to the pandemic and the second possible fight did not materialize because Bob Arum has a different thing in mind.  The fight Inoue - Moloney should be Inoue - Casimero but then Bob Arum has another plan and agreed with the Inoue - Moloney.

It is indeed easy for these to boxer to meet in the ring but their promoter made it difficult.
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January 13, 2023, 01:28:51 PM
The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.
The two boxers once faced each other for a fight that was scheduled for 2021 but has been canceled due to the virulent covid pandemic at the time, so it will not be difficult for companies/organizations to reunite the two in a spectacular fighting event. Casimero has been aiming to fight Inoue after concluding his fight against Ryo Akaho, so I hope Casimero goes straight to Inoue for his next fight. I'll be waiting for official information about his fight schedule at the beginning of this year.
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January 13, 2023, 12:38:49 PM
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Maybe 1-2 fights with an impressive win by Casimero is enough fuel to boost his rankings to at least Top 3. I also hope that there will be no more shit that will happen to Casimero as this will be his last chance to build his name and climb to the top.

He's turning 34 next month so every fight counts.

Poor Casimero he really needs to find a serious opponent that will gonna fight him fair and square inside the ring. We all know his last fight was a total comedy because his opponent is an movie actor. I agree he needs to fight one fight before facing Inoue and I'm sure it will be a dream come true for both of them since they were really wanted that fight to happen.

If Casimero will be given a chance to have a good fight and he wins it the next stop for him is to find his way to challenge one of the top in ranks, not exactly the current champ but fighter who has a established name from this division, if he will manage to beat and become a good contender for the title chase.

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.
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January 13, 2023, 10:28:19 AM
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Maybe 1-2 fights with an impressive win by Casimero is enough fuel to boost his rankings to at least Top 3. I also hope that there will be no more shit that will happen to Casimero as this will be his last chance to build his name and climb to the top.

He's turning 34 next month so every fight counts.

Poor Casimero he really needs to find a serious opponent that will gonna fight him fair and square inside the ring. We all know his last fight was a total comedy because his opponent is an movie actor. I agree he needs to fight one fight before facing Inoue and I'm sure it will be a dream come true for both of them since they were really wanted that fight to happen.
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January 13, 2023, 08:38:35 AM

It's a good start that after the refresh of the rankings, WBC now ranked Casimero in 8th rank making it closer to the big fight they want in the Super Bantamweight. WBC Super Bantamweight is being held currently by Stephen Fulton.

As I mentioned before, Casimero's camp is working on the deal with Luis Nery but as of now, no fresh related to that regarding the progress and I doubt it will be materialized since Nery is currently the Rank 1 contender at the WBC Super Bantamweight. Maybe Casimero's camp should consider shifting their plan and try instead negotiating with either Hovhannisyan or Picasso before considering a much bigger fight.
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January 13, 2023, 06:38:23 AM
We hope to see Inoue finally spar with Casimero in the ring, this is an anticipated fight because they didn't make it possible in bantamweight division.
I'm pretty sure that once Inoue will choose Casimero, there will be no problem with Casimero.

In the meantime though, John Riel Casimero just needs to build up his name in the 122 for him to be recognized as a good opponent for those top-ranked boxers there and champions. Even for let's say Naoya Inoue wants to fight Casimero, I doubt promoters will be interested to organize that fight with the current status of Casimero.

Maybe 1-2 fights with an impressive win by Casimero is enough fuel to boost his rankings to at least Top 3. I also hope that there will be no more shit that will happen to Casimero as this will be his last chance to build his name and climb to the top.

He's turning 34 next month so every fight counts.
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January 13, 2023, 06:16:56 AM

The super bantamweight division is an exciting division now that Inoue is officially moving up to this weight category. But unlike Casimero, i do think that the Japanese Monster will be first to fight for either of the four belts because of his connection to Top Rank Promotion.

Casimero, sooner or later will have his time to face Inoue should he perform well and convince uncle Bob that he deserve a shot with his cash cow.

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Japanese boxer Naoya Inoue is giving up his four bantamweight belts and plans to fight as a super bantamweight. The undefeated Inoue holds the title belts for the WBA, WBO, IBF and WBA. He made the announcement at a news conference in Yokohama, Japan, on Friday

This is a great news for the boxing fans, it will make the new division of Inoue more interesting to watch because he has not dominated it yet. We hope to see Inoue finally spar with Casimero in the ring, this is an anticipated fight because they didn't make it possible in bantamweight division.
I'm pretty sure that once Inoue will choose Casimero, there will be no problem with Casimero.
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January 13, 2023, 06:12:53 AM
Casimero just crack the top 10 of the latest rankings, he is ranked number 8 by the WBC, the belt that Fulton is holding right now, but in all over bodies, he is not listed yet.

So it might take some time for Casimero to have a crack of the world title, he still need to win 2 or 3 times in this division. And in his last fight it's not even sanction by any government bodies, so very hard for him right now at his new weight classes.

And if my memory serves me right, Fulton is looking to fight Brandon Figueroa at featherweight division. So he might be thinking of really moving up in weight. But we will see then.

The super bantamweight division is an exciting division now that Inoue is officially moving up to this weight category. But unlike Casimero, i do think that the Japanese Monster will be first to fight for either of the four belts because of his connection to Top Rank Promotion.

Casimero, sooner or later will have his time to face Inoue should he perform well and convince uncle Bob that he deserve a shot with his cash cow.

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Japanese boxer Naoya Inoue is giving up his four bantamweight belts and plans to fight as a super bantamweight. The undefeated Inoue holds the title belts for the WBA, WBO, IBF and WBA. He made the announcement at a news conference in Yokohama, Japan, on Friday
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January 13, 2023, 05:45:06 AM
Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

He is waiting badly for Inoue even prior to The Monster being the undisputed bantamweight champion.

Aside from him expecting a clash with Inoue, seems better to also see them in unification with Akhmadaliev.

There was indeed some rumors about Stephon Fulton that he will climb the upper division in the past but as of now, I'm not reading some articles about him anymore that is addressing his climb. So, I guess he won't be vacating those titles that he's holding and he can still fight with Inoue soon enough if the latter's camp will go directly after him to have a bite at those said titles. I'm thinking that if ever they will face each other, it'll be in the 2nd quarter of this year because Fulton still got an upcoming fight, right?
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January 13, 2023, 03:23:32 AM

Why would he? Is that a claim that he cannot be defeated by him?
Super Bantamweight will be packed with superstars but there's also that chance to be in stardom once these guys are defeated. I think Inoue is aiming for that.
He wants the champions to fight against him for an easy way to claim what record he is trying to break.
2 divisions with all the belts in him. But if you are a fighter that is able to stop that, take it. I think many boxers now are just trying to make an excuse to avoid strong fighters forgetting how it will feel good if they are the ones who won't let them achieve it.


It is just what I think, for me, I really want to see 1st if he can dominate a fight in the super bantamweight division first well Stephen Fulton doesn't really show any posts or news of what he really thinks when moving up a division so there is a question mark in there, and he never really discloses that issue, and if he still wants to fight Naoya Inoue, but I am just making my comments why is he going up without unifying the belts in that Division, and I think Stephen Fulton is not really a power puncher, there might be a different version on what did I think why he does that but for now without anything that supports this my comment will not change that he might be really ducking Naoya Inoue,


Guess I heard it too but not a thing that he will prioritize as I'm sure he wants to clear things first at 122 lbs.

Mainly, unifying all the titles at that division before moving up - which obviously fighting Akhmadaliev on the process.

But to never disappoint the fans, I hope the boxing council will step in and organize a fight to mandate Fulton having a mandatory challenger thru Naoya Inoue or make it possible for Fulton to face Akhmadaliev.

Well, What I really like him to do is to unify the belt in that division, first after he fights Naoya Inoue because that will be a bigger money Unified champion VS a unified champion, or maybe Fulton is targeting Brandon Figueroa after going down again a division and this time unifying the belt in that division,
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January 13, 2023, 12:43:00 AM
AfterJose Ramirez turns down Regis Prograis because he was disappointed by the 65/35 purse split, now he chooses to fight the former Lightweight champion in Richard Commey to be his next opponent.

Fans say that it was a clear duck on his end, avoiding Prograis. We can't really tell because he is hiding on the purse split issue. Because he is a former champion and could demand higher in my opinion. But he has move forward already with RC so let's see if he can make good win here and probably he will get at least 50/50 purse split with the champion Prograis.



https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/01/12/jose-ramirez-vs-richard-commey-confirmed-for-march-25-in-fresno/
For me too but of course, he won't admit it, that's protecting his pride and ego.
It was the opportunity to take the Super lightweight belt from Prograis which most boxers will be willing to take and yet he passed on the opportunity just because of the money issue. That doesn't sound right and the fans will surely create a theory about why and now it's become one of the trending talks.
I am not sure how he will become a champion by cowering like that. The only solution that I can see is when another boxer steals it from Prograis and then Ramirez thinks he can take the new champion even with an offer of the same split.
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January 12, 2023, 06:56:36 PM
And if my memory serves me right, Fulton is looking to fight Brandon Figueroa at featherweight division. So he might be thinking of really moving up in weight. But we will see then.

Guess I heard it too but not a thing that he will prioritize as I'm sure he wants to clear things first at 122 lbs.

Mainly, unifying all the titles at that division before moving up - which obviously fighting Akhmadaliev on the process.

But to never disappoint the fans, I hope the boxing council will step in and organize a fight to mandate Fulton having a mandatory challenger thru Naoya Inoue or make it possible for Fulton to face Akhmadaliev.
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January 12, 2023, 05:23:12 PM
After Jose Ramirez turns down Regis Prograis because he was disappointed by the 65/35 purse split, now he chooses to fight the former Lightweight champion in Richard Commey to be his next opponent.

Fans say that it was a clear duck on his end, avoiding Prograis. We can't really tell because he is hiding on the purse split issue. Because he is a former champion and could demand higher in my opinion. But he has move forward already with RC so let's see if he can make good win here and probably he will get at least 50/50 purse split with the champion Prograis.



https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/01/12/jose-ramirez-vs-richard-commey-confirmed-for-march-25-in-fresno/
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January 12, 2023, 01:18:15 PM
Well if he does that it seems that the unification of the Super bantamweight division for him will not go through or he doesn't want it to be unified, or he is scared of Naoya Inoue so maybe he will try in the higher divisions or he is just checking his strength if he can make it to 126, lbs it seems really odd after saying that to Naoya Inoue or the other boxers in that division then he is now climbing up, I really don't know what to say,
Why would he? Is that a claim that he cannot be defeated by him?
Super Bantamweight will be packed with superstars but there's also that chance to be in stardom once these guys are defeated. I think Inoue is aiming for that.
He wants the champions to fight against him for an easy way to claim what record he is trying to break.
2 divisions with all the belts in him. But if you are a fighter that is able to stop that, take it. I think many boxers now are just trying to make an excuse to avoid strong fighters forgetting how it will feel good if they are the ones who won't let them achieve it.

In that sense, more on protecting their names instead of protecting the belts. I don't have any idea if why he will climb if his weight still fits or if he can still maintain 122lbs, fighting Inoue will bring him money for sure, but if that's his decision or his camp see that he really have that chance to climb and challenge the current title holder then so be it.

All will be concluded once there's already updates coming from the social media channel, reputable sports website that will bring news regarding to any new information about it.
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January 12, 2023, 10:15:34 AM
Well if he does that it seems that the unification of the Super bantamweight division for him will not go through or he doesn't want it to be unified, or he is scared of Naoya Inoue so maybe he will try in the higher divisions or he is just checking his strength if he can make it to 126, lbs it seems really odd after saying that to Naoya Inoue or the other boxers in that division then he is now climbing up, I really don't know what to say,
Why would he? Is that a claim that he cannot be defeated by him?
Super Bantamweight will be packed with superstars but there's also that chance to be in stardom once these guys are defeated. I think Inoue is aiming for that.
He wants the champions to fight against him for an easy way to claim what record he is trying to break.
2 divisions with all the belts in him. But if you are a fighter that is able to stop that, take it. I think many boxers now are just trying to make an excuse to avoid strong fighters forgetting how it will feel good if they are the ones who won't let them achieve it.
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January 12, 2023, 05:51:58 AM
Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.


If he will be moving up, then the chance for Casimero to be one of possible contender for the title match might be possible? just asking.
if ever that Fulton will vacant the title.

Or Casimero still far from the qualification since he only fights once from this new division, it will be a good venue for both Inoue and Casimero

both still young and still on their primes, but still far from reality I guess, as Fulton's moving up is still a rumor.

Casimero just crack the top 10 of the latest rankings, he is ranked number 8 by the WBC, the belt that Fulton is holding right now, but in all over bodies, he is not listed yet.

So it might take some time for Casimero to have a crack of the world title, he still need to win 2 or 3 times in this division. And in his last fight it's not even sanction by any government bodies, so very hard for him right now at his new weight classes.

And if my memory serves me right, Fulton is looking to fight Brandon Figueroa at featherweight division. So he might be thinking of really moving up in weight. But we will see then.
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January 12, 2023, 12:12:44 AM
Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.


If he will be moving up, then the chance for Casimero to be one of possible contender for the title match might be possible? just asking.
if ever that Fulton will vacant the title.

Or Casimero still far from the qualification since he only fights once from this new division, it will be a good venue for both Inoue and Casimero

both still young and still on their primes, but still far from reality I guess, as Fulton's moving up is still a rumor.

If they want to make it happen, then I'm sure it will be close to reality. Fight for money instead, I mean, both fighters are popular, although they will not have a championship fight yet but they will definitely make a lot of money if they will give that anticipated fight to us.
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January 11, 2023, 11:29:13 PM
Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

He is waiting badly for Inoue even prior to The Monster being the undisputed bantamweight champion.

Aside from him expecting a clash with Inoue, seems better to also see them in unification with Akhmadaliev.

I haven't seen any news about Stephen Fulton moving up a division, but here is a tweet that may prove that Stephen Fulton will really move up to 126



Well if he does that it seems that the unification of the Super bantamweight division for him will not go through or he doesn't want it to be unified, or he is scared of Naoya Inoue so maybe he will try in the higher divisions or he is just checking his strength if he can make it to 126, lbs it seems really odd after saying that to Naoya Inoue or the other boxers in that division then he is now climbing up, I really don't know what to say,


Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.


I want it, and the fight was already hyped already, and if Stephen Fulton really is backing up and really scared of Naoya Inoue, certainly that is a good choice for him to do he might have seen something about the Inoue's fight against Butler that his made to now evade the Super Bantamweight division, I surely hope not and if he will be needed to fight Naoya Inoue then he needs to go down the weight again, for me this fight is already hype so it will be big in PPV,
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January 11, 2023, 08:51:51 PM
Love to see him either with Fulton or Akhmadaliev for this year. Unless Fulton will go up in weight class and vacated his belt.

Not sure about that but is there any rumor that Fulton will move up weight?

Yes, I saw the rumor that there is no official word for Fulton himself it this is true or not. If this is true then he will vacate this belt. On the contrary there are news that he will also have a schedule next fight.

And now fans are saying that he is ducking Inoue now.

But we will see, yes, who wouldn't want a Fulton vs Inoue fight for this year? But if Fulton doesn't want to or his body can't make the 122 lbs anymore then he will have to go up.


If he will be moving up, then the chance for Casimero to be one of possible contender for the title match might be possible? just asking.
if ever that Fulton will vacant the title.

Or Casimero still far from the qualification since he only fights once from this new division, it will be a good venue for both Inoue and Casimero

both still young and still on their primes, but still far from reality I guess, as Fulton's moving up is still a rumor.
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