Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 20. (Read 28993 times)

Right, I don't know when was the last time that we have seen a HW unification fight. If my memory serves me right we haven't seen since like in the 80's as when the Klitscho brothers dominated this division, they obviously doesn't want to fight each other. And so we can trace back the lineal HW champion to Fury himself when he beat once of the Klitscho before his first retirement due to mental issues. And there is a promo that is worth watching as well, that added more hype to this fight. Fury though is the slight favorite but it's really hard to predict, as he is the physical dominant boxer between the two, but Usyk is quicker and more agile in my opinion.

Yup, I normally don't have much time to watch a whole fight live, but might take an exception for this one. The unification of all major belts doesn't happen very often. On top of that, both are undefeated and one of them will lose that status.


What about a rematch with Bivol? Canelo said a few times that he would want that to happen, but whether that's true or not is a different story.

I am also quite confident that Canelo is trying to avoid Benavidez. So I am not not very certain but I am pretty sure that the next opponent for him has to be Munguia. Because he is generating some noise right now. Do you guys think that there is someone else much more suitable to face him? I personally don't think so. But of course that is just my opinion.

Maybe it is not the best opponent to beat him. But right now I do not think there is actually a better opponent to face him other than Munguia.

Hehe this is hype. It appears the storyline for him is he knocked out the fighter who went to the decision against Canelo and it is also being implied that he has a chance vs. Canelo. However, who is this Munguia? Does beating John Ryder make him the next challenger against the super middleweight champion? This is head shaking.

Also, according to some articles, Canelo will avoid David Benavidez again and he might give the fans their wish. Munguia will certainly be a much less difficult fight than Benavidez.

Not only that, it will be one of the most interesting games. but that will also be very historical. as you said fury appeared to be mentally dominating. but Usyk has more belts. so it is really hard to predict anything about this game.
I am gonna try my best to watch this match live. but I am definitely going to watch the highlights if I miss that by chance.

I remember Canelo as well giving a free pass when he was caught with Clen on his system (if I'm not mistaken), so same reason, Mexican cows or beef are laden with Clen and obviously contaminated already. And so when he eats those beef, he got it into this system.

So the original Charlo that he should fight in the first place will be his next opponent. So less risk bigger reward is what Canelo is going after and not those big risk like Bivol or Benavidez. So they are taking it slowly already, and it means that Canelo is no longer in his prime or maybe on the sunset already for choosing lesser opponents.

It is being speculated that Canelo’s next fight will be against Jermall Charlo. The only reason why Charlo is still even considered a viable opponent is because the WBC have refused to strip his belt which he hasn’t defended in well over two years.

Then there are Oscar Valdez, Connor Benn, and Alycia Baumgardner who failed doping tests but were given a free pass by the WBC because they used lame excuses where they blamed contaminated tea and contaminated eggs.

Usyk should be prepared well when it comes to this fight because Fury is never was a fighter he fought in the past, he should prepare for a mental fight with his preparedness of some skills to get out from that simultaneous hugs from Fury that could potentially make him tired easily because if he don't he will be tired and eventually fall to his ground due to being exhausted and can't seem find a way to beat Fury. 

Fury can definitely get knocked down, we've already seen it a few times. But he'd always just spring back up and win a fight. He also had some controversial wins, like the first one against Wilder that you mentioned or his last one against Ngannou. But he has a perfect personality for this profession. He truly believes that he's meant to be the undisputed champion, which gives him extra powers.
As for Usyk, his technique is second to none, but the size disadvantage will be the major factor here. You don't need to be an expert to know that Fury's main tactic will be throwing a LOT of jabs to keep Usyk at a safe distance.

The odds are quite close. Currently 1.76 for Fury and 2.12 for Usyk. I expected Fury to be more of a favourite, but maybe that fight with Francis played a role here.

Not only boxing, I think almost every governing body of almost every sport is corrupt. I am not saying all of them are corrupt and they cannot do anything good. But corruption is always there. It does not matter how good of a person is at the job. Where there is money and huge transactions are being made every day, corruption is going to be there. Not much can be done about it, to be honest. And those fighters who have star power are obviously going to use it for their advantage. that's what he is doing.

I think it's no secret that boxing is one sports when corruption is prevalent, and I think boxing fans here would agree that one of the most corrupt is WBC under the Sulaiman's. They have been in control of this organization for years and not have enforce the so called mandatory and they allow their champion to call the shots. Canelo several years ago in the WBC convention says that he wants to go to CW and challenge  Ilunga Makabu and they voted unanimously.

But the fight didn't happen as he might think that it is too much weight for him although the fight is going to be on a catchweight. But then again, he lost to Bivol already and now going back to his comfortable weight class and looking to continue to dominant but I don't think that he is willing to fight Mexicans in this division, Benavidez adn Munguia.

Can we now call boxing is corrupt. Because mandatories are suppose to be mandatories, no special treatment or excuses. Canelo is really a cash-cow, very popular in boxing and promoters are making a lot of money when he's fighting. So they like to protect him, at least give him a fight that looks big and competitive but in reality he could control the fight. His mistake was when he moved up in weight think he could beat Bivol but he failed, and I think he won't move up again or challenge Bivol in a rematch as he is enjoying on the current division he is reigning, but he has to choose his opponent wisely.

Yes, I do agree though, mandatories are not going to be enforce by this governing bodies, specially with Canelo's star power right now. He can choose who and where he is fighting and those bodies are just going to nod and say yes.

But in any case, it will be a good fight and maybe it could be the biggest for Canelo. Instead of fighting other names, it was reported that Munguia sold out the tickets in Phoenix more than what Benavidez can do in his own city.

Canelo earn what's his place to be right now, with all his hard work and maybe careful matching early when he was still with Golden Boy, makes him the cash cow after Manny Pacquiao left. And so like his predecessors, everyone wanted a piece of him, for this biggest payday, and even if he lost a fight against Bivol, he makes a great comeback and so the current super Middle Weight is eyeing him for that money fight.

And even governing bodies can't force him to fight his mandatory, he will fight whoever he wants as long as he thinks he can beat him and then he can also gain a lot and obviously he will be the A-side. So I'm not seeing him fighting the likes of Munguia or Benavidez, but not surprised if he will fight the other half of the Charlo twins, the supposedly original fighter that he should be facing, Jermall Charlo.

I really don't know If he is the Mandatory fight for Canelo Alvarez but I just saw in the news that Jaime Munguia is eyeing to fight Canelo Alvarez while Alvarez is making excuses that he doesn't want to fight a Mexican,

And the leverage that Canelo holds in the boxing world allows him the freedom to choose his opponents strategically. While fans and fellow fighters like Munguia and David Benavidez eagerly seek the opportunity to face him, it's clear that the pursuit of a significant payday is a driving factor. The anticipation for potential matchups in May or September, Canelo's usual fighting months, adds an extra layer of excitement to the boxing landscape. The coming year holds the promise of high-stakes and high-profile fights, as fighters position themselves for a chance to step into the ring with the cash cow of boxing,



It's fascinating to analyze the mental aspect of boxing, and Fury's mastery in the mental game, especially against Wilder, is evident. His ability to disrupt expectations through strategic trash-talking showcases a unique approach. The contrast with Usyk is interesting; he appears unfazed by external factors, focusing on the sport itself. The upcoming match between them will likely reveal not only their physical prowess but also their mental resilience. In the end, it may come down to sheer determination and willpower, especially if the fight extends to the full 12 rounds. Can't wait to see how it unfolds,

Yeah, he could have mastered that craft, you can see that he won the mental game with Wilder. Prior to that we think that the Americans is doing to dominate the fight as he has power in both hands. But Fury negate it before the actual fight, as he continue to trash talk his way and maybe he went inside to Wilder mind that we think that Fury already took Wilder and break him apart on that 2 fights that he got. And we see if finally after Fury's lost to Parker, and he really looks like shot and no longer can pull that trigger. But it seems though that Usyk is not affected by the antics and what Fury is saying in the pubic against him. So most likely it boils down as who has wanted to win this badly in case it extended to full 12 rounds.

Isn't it Munguia is now the mandatory for Canelo's WBO belt?

And so he should give him a chance or at least follow and fight his mandatory. But we all know that he can choose whatever fighter he wants to fight next, he has the leverage as he is the cash-cow. But we will see, as we have noted, all roads to Canelo, to from Munguia to David Benavidez, they are all looking for that huge pay check if they will or can get a fight next year, May or September, that's usually the month/date that Canelo fight.

However, you rightly point out Munguia's porous defense as a potential vulnerability against someone as skilled as Canelo. The clash of styles and the tactical aspects of the fight add an extra layer of anticipation. It could indeed be a fight with the potential for fireworks and, as you mentioned, a candidate for fight of the year. The boxing community will be eager to see how this potential matchup unfolds and whether Munguia can overcome his defensive challenges in a bout against a top-tier opponent like Canelo,

Munguia's TKO win is undoubtedly impressive, especially considering the opponent's resilience against Canelo. The prospect of a matchup between Munguia and Canelo does sound intriguing, given Munguia's penchant for engaging in thrilling and action-packed fights. The potential for a slugfest is high, making it an exciting prospect for boxing fans,


It's intriguing to consider the potential matchups in the middleweight division, especially with Canelo's remaining fights in his PBC deal. The idea of Munguia vs. Berlanga is enticing, and the rivalry aspect, especially if Canelo opts out, adds an extra layer of anticipation. Berlanga's upcoming fight against Padraig McCrory could play a pivotal role in shaping the narrative, potentially leading to a significant clash between Mexican and Puerto Rican boxing traditions. Exciting times ahead in the middleweight landscape,

Mental game is Fury's breakfast, he knows what he's doing and he became master in this kind of strategy. Though most fans wanted Usyk to win this fight, it is not that easy because Fury is fully ready and prepared by showing his opponent he is just playing and not a kind of boxer who make it obvious to show his opponent his strategy but he is kind of wanting to annoy every opponent and surprise them with his skills inside the ring.

Fury vs Usyk will take place in the middle of next month and there are still around 3 weeks left for the fight, these two heavyweight boxers are risking all the titles they have to become the undisputed heavyweight champion.
Fury looks very enthusiastic about this fight and he is really confident that he can strip Usyk of all his titles and give him the first defeat in the career that Usyk has built with various wins in every championship.
These two undefeated heavyweight boxers really seem to be making the fight even more sensational because they both want to destroy each other and of course the hype about the fight for the undisputed title has become the most anticipated.

Fury has body that is not very stable because when he gets pressure from his opponent punches, Fury can easily fall like in the previous fight when he faced Ngannou.
Fury has the advantage of hitting hard enough but is not very good at physical endurance, Usyk can use this to beat Fury, but we don't know whether Fury can be beaten because he also has pretty good fighting history.
So far, only one boxer has succeeded in making Fury fail to win, ending in draw and that is Deontay Wilder and their fight is the best in history in heavyweight combat.