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Quote from: btc_angela on June 07, 2024, 06:18:59 AM

^^ That will be one of the most anticipated fight if ever, Tank Davis vs Naoya Inoue at 135 lbs. But the key take away here are:

>> Inoue is moving up, although it's been reported that he is walking about 137 lbs, we don't know if he can bring that power
>> He was knock down by Nery in their last fight, means that someone that has big power like a natural Light weight in Davis could knock him out for good

So for me, it will be Tank Davis that will be the favorite and I'm seeing him winning by either decision of by a huge knockout.

Another factor to be listed down is also where the fight will happen. But are we guessing all here right that it will happen wherever Naoya Inoue likes to fight? yes, in his home country - Japan.

Quote from: btc_angela on June 11, 2024, 08:11:57 PM

And assuming that this fight is really going to happen, I do hope that Inoue will go to USA, there's no way that Tank is willing to go to Japan.

Let's hope that Naoya will give it to his bashers that he'd agree to fight outside Japan and this is going to be in Las Vegas. Maybe a big offer might be given to him just to take this condition that the fight will happen overseas as for sure that's going to bring him more money.

Quote from: Kemarit on June 07, 2024, 08:58:43 AM

Yes, it could be that Inoue will be the underdog and I like the question on whether he can bring his power to this weight class. I think he still has a good chin because of the added weight, it's just whether is power will still be there or not.

I have confidence on Inoue and he's on his prime and that's why if the odds are going to make him the underdog, that's a wow thing to do and probably a good fight to gamble on.

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Quote from: Questat on June 07, 2024, 06:43:21 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on June 07, 2024, 06:18:59 AM

^^ That will be one of the most anticipated fight if ever, Tank Davis vs Naoya Inoue at 135 lbs. But the key take away here are:

>> Inoue is moving up, although it's been reported that he is walking about 137 lbs, we don't know if he can bring that power
>> He was knock down by Nery in their last fight, means that someone that has big power like a natural Light weight in Davis could knock him out for good

That's a risky move for Inoue if he'll do that but a brave move. For a boxer that is being ranked at number 1 in the p2p, he should impressed the fans by pushing his limit, and I think he'll be a good match with Tank Davis as Inoue had proven it already that he could carry his power and speed.

Quote from: btc_angela on June 07, 2024, 06:18:59 AM

So for me, it will be Tank Davis that will be the favorite and I'm seeing him winning by either decision of by a huge knockout.

This might be the first time where Inoue will be the underdog, and I'll take that all day.

Everyone should really take the risk, I don't think that Inoue is afraid though, for me it all boils down to Tank as he was really protected and they (his management and team), want's him to have a perfect winning record like Floyd.

Yes, he could be a big underdog and just like you many should see value on him.

And assuming that this fight is really going to happen, I do hope that Inoue will go to USA, there's no way that Tank is willing to go to Japan.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on June 07, 2024, 10:10:22 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 02, 2024, 04:24:15 PM

And after that HI Turki Alalshikh also made official that Bivol’s fight with Beterbiev will be this October 12. And I think Beterbiev could be around 80-90% and his injuries are healing enough to be ready for October. I think that's what we are looking, the next biggest fight for this year, unification and then we also have David Benavidez inserting his name in the LHW division.

I didn't know the date was announced. October is not very far away. Hopefully they gave enough time to Arthur to recover properly. He's not the youngest anymore and knee injury is one of the worst, as it makes any boxing or cardio training impossible, maybe except for some upper body strength exercises.
This will be the biggest fight in Beterbiev's career, so he shouldn't rush to it until he's 100% healthy.

For sure there is no rush for Beterbiev, still a lot of time for him to recover and be healthy and go to train because he knows what are the risk involved here, it's the unification and fans are eagerly waiting for this biggest fight at LHW after many years.

That's the thing do with boxers who really aged, they have a lot of damage already and sooner or later it will show and that's what happen here, it is a ruptured meniscus.

And as far as I know, he was mandated by the WBC to submit the medical examination and most likely keeping tabs with them.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on June 02, 2024, 04:24:15 PM

And after that HI Turki Alalshikh also made official that Bivol’s fight with Beterbiev will be this October 12. And I think Beterbiev could be around 80-90% and his injuries are healing enough to be ready for October. I think that's what we are looking, the next biggest fight for this year, unification and then we also have David Benavidez inserting his name in the LHW division.

I didn't know the date was announced. October is not very far away. Hopefully they gave enough time to Arthur to recover properly. He's not the youngest anymore and knee injury is one of the worst, as it makes any boxing or cardio training impossible, maybe except for some upper body strength exercises.
This will be the biggest fight in Beterbiev's career, so he shouldn't rush to it until he's 100% healthy.

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Quote from: Questat on June 07, 2024, 06:43:21 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on June 07, 2024, 06:18:59 AM

^^ That will be one of the most anticipated fight if ever, Tank Davis vs Naoya Inoue at 135 lbs. But the key take away here are:

>> Inoue is moving up, although it's been reported that he is walking about 137 lbs, we don't know if he can bring that power
>> He was knock down by Nery in their last fight, means that someone that has big power like a natural Light weight in Davis could knock him out for good

That's a risky move for Inoue if he'll do that but a brave move. For a boxer that is being ranked at number 1 in the p2p, he should impressed the fans by pushing his limit, and I think he'll be a good match with Tank Davis as Inoue had proven it already that he could carry his power and speed.

Quote from: btc_angela on June 07, 2024, 06:18:59 AM

So for me, it will be Tank Davis that will be the favorite and I'm seeing him winning by either decision of by a huge knockout.

This might be the first time where Inoue will be the underdog, and I'll take that all day.

That really put Inoue at the top of the pound for pound list if ever he will fight and beat Tank Davis. So the ball is now on the Davis part, if he is willing to take that risk because there were interview of his saying that Inoue is too small for him. But perhaps that was the time when Inoue is at 118 lbs, so maybe in the future, he will consider fighting at his comfortable weight of 135 lbs.

Yes, it could be that Inoue will be the underdog and I like the question on whether he can bring his power to this weight class. I think he still has a good chin because of the added weight, it's just whether is power will still be there or not.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 07, 2024, 06:18:59 AM

^^ That will be one of the most anticipated fight if ever, Tank Davis vs Naoya Inoue at 135 lbs. But the key take away here are:

>> Inoue is moving up, although it's been reported that he is walking about 137 lbs, we don't know if he can bring that power
>> He was knock down by Nery in their last fight, means that someone that has big power like a natural Light weight in Davis could knock him out for good

That's a risky move for Inoue if he'll do that but a brave move. For a boxer that is being ranked at number 1 in the p2p, he should impressed the fans by pushing his limit, and I think he'll be a good match with Tank Davis as Inoue had proven it already that he could carry his power and speed.

Quote from: btc_angela on June 07, 2024, 06:18:59 AM

So for me, it will be Tank Davis that will be the favorite and I'm seeing him winning by either decision of by a huge knockout.

This might be the first time where Inoue will be the underdog, and I'll take that all day.

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^^ That will be one of the most anticipated fight if ever, Tank Davis vs Naoya Inoue at 135 lbs. But the key take away here are:

>> Inoue is moving up, although it's been reported that he is walking about 137 lbs, we don't know if he can bring that power
>> He was knock down by Nery in their last fight, means that someone that has big power like a natural Light weight in Davis could knock him out for good

So for me, it will be Tank Davis that will be the favorite and I'm seeing him winning by either decision of by a huge knockout.

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Potential fight in the horizon?

https://x.com/BoxingKingdom14/status/1798977039317467432

One of the dream fights for sure as boxing fans wanted to see this hypothetical fight happening in the future. In case though, how do you see the odds here? Who will be the favorite?

@Finestream - that is the true odds for now, so much disrespect for Estrada though.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 06, 2024, 06:02:55 AM

And interesting that Estrada is a huge underdog in his fight. Per ML,

Estrada-4.0
Rodriguez-1.22

I have to verify the odds as I was thinking maybe it's just a typo error, but the same thing can be seen here.
https://box.live/boxing-betting/estrada-vs-rodriguez-odds/

This is really is the real odds, and with this kind of odds, I have to do further research on how it happened, but if I will to decide now on which fighter to choose, I'd close my eyes and will choose Rodriguez to win as he is the right bet based on the odds.

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I haven't seen anyone discussed about this fight, It's Jesse Rodriguez against Juan Francisco Estrada. The fight is schedule this June 29.

It will be the first time that Estrada will defend his WBC belt after defeating Roman ‘Chocolatito’ Gonzalez. And he has been inactive for 2 years so this could be a big factor in this fight as he is no longer getting any younger as well and he had a lot of wear and tear throughout his career.

He will be fighting one of the best prospects in Jesse Rodriguez, the number 1 contender, and has been a flyweight champion.

And interesting that Estrada is a huge underdog in his fight. Per ML,

Estrada-4.0
Rodriguez-1.22

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 03, 2024, 08:12:59 AM

Might be interesting to see Teo Lopez vs Ryan Garcia as the center piece of the fight. And how do you think the match in this fight besides the fighter that I mentioned?

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan is the heavy favorite if this fight happens. This is one of the fights I would like to see this year—two warriors going against each other. I'm sure it will end with a knockout from either boxer, but I would always back Ryan to win here as I'm impressed with his performance against Haney. I'm not sure if Teo is quick enough to negate Ryan's reach advantage, which I'm sure Ryan will use to prevent Teo's attacks and to dominate the fight.

It certainly will be very head scratching if Ryan Garcia is the heavy favorite against Teo Lopez. If he will be chosen by the oddsmakers as the favorite, it will be a small favorite, I reckon. I am very much aware that Ryan won vs. Devin Haney, however, this might imply more that Devin Haney might not be as good as the hype than King Ry is a very good boxer. If you tell me that I am wrong, watch Devin Haney vs. Loma. I speculate Teo will be the favorite for this fight.

Devin Haney was the outstanding favorite because he was a champion and coming from a big victory from Regis Prograis, a natural 140 lbs and he knock him down. While Ryan won but it was just a tune up fight then. But I do agree that if ever the two will face in the ring, Teo will be the slight favorite against Ryan even though he just won against Devin Haney.

It's just one performance of Ryan against a top caliber fighter, but now it's been tainted with controversies and it could really be a factor as why he would be the underdog against Teo. I'm seeing like 1.6-8x odds for Teo and they Ryan around 2.5-2.8x, something around that line.

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Quote from: Viscore on June 03, 2024, 09:02:26 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on June 03, 2024, 08:12:59 AM

Might be interesting to see Teo Lopez vs Ryan Garcia as the center piece of the fight. And how do you think the match in this fight besides the fighter that I mentioned?

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan is the heavy favorite if this fight happens. This is one of the fights I would like to see this year—two warriors going against each other. I'm sure it will end with a knockout from either boxer, but I would always back Ryan to win here as I'm impressed with his performance against Haney. I'm not sure if Teo is quick enough to negate Ryan's reach advantage, which I'm sure Ryan will use to prevent Teo's attacks and to dominate the fight.

It certainly will be very head scratching if Ryan Garcia is the heavy favorite against Teo Lopez. If he will be chosen by the oddsmakers as the favorite, it will be a small favorite, I reckon. I am very much aware that Ryan won vs. Devin Haney, however, this might imply more that Devin Haney might not be as good as the hype than King Ry is a very good boxer. If you tell me that I am wrong, watch Devin Haney vs. Loma. I speculate Teo will be the favorite for this fight.

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Quote from: Viscore on June 03, 2024, 09:02:26 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on June 03, 2024, 08:12:59 AM

Might be interesting to see Teo Lopez vs Ryan Garcia as the center piece of the fight. And how do you think the match in this fight besides the fighter that I mentioned?

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan is the heavy favorite if this fight happens. This is one of the fights I would like to see this year—two warriors going against each other. I'm sure it will end with a knockout from either boxer, but I would always back Ryan to win here as I'm impressed with his performance against Haney. I'm not sure if Teo is quick enough to negate Ryan's reach advantage, which I'm sure Ryan will use to prevent Teo's attacks and to dominate the fight.

I wouldn't say that he will the heavy favorite here, Teo Lopez is the lineal champion, he beat the former unified champion on Josh Taylor so there is going to be some respect by the odd makers so it will be a close fight or even 50/50.

Everyone is impressed by his wins against Haney, he really looks good and was in no danger in that part although as we have heard after the fight that they VADA has found traces of ban substance in his blood stream. Teo is quick and has power, but barring everything this is going to be a good fight as this could be the cherry on top if even Bob Arum's is willing to go against Oscar in a 5 x 5 setup.

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^^ I'm hearing about this Xander Zayas though, a good prospect from Puerto Rico when a good knockout ratio of 66% but he is at 154 lbs and not in the division of Shakur Stevenson of 135 lbs, so maybe you might have mistaken him for another boxer.

Maybe it could be Zepeda or Shakur or Zepeda vs Loma at 135 lbs.

Not sure if they can push a Ryan Garcia fight because definitely, I'm not seeing him having a fight for this year or even in the first quarter of 2025 because of the controversial allegation on him that he uses ban substance against his fight with Haney.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 03, 2024, 08:12:59 AM

What do you think of this idea though?

https://x.com/OscarDeLaHoya/status/1797351748786323874

Obviously they took inspiration for the recent 5 vs 5 in Saudi Arabia, between Matchroom and Queensberry.

Might be interesting to see Teo Lopez vs Ryan Garcia as the center piece of the fight. And how do you think the match in this fight besides the fighter that I mentioned?

Lol, but it's obvious that Oscar dela Hoya really wanted to be part of the now Saudi events hosted by HE Turki Alalshikh. It's just a question whether the powerful broker is willing to be the middle man between GBP and Top Rank, although Bob Arum has inside track already but I feel that Alalshikh favorite is Matchroom and Queensberry fighters.

All I know is Lopez vs Garcia. Or maybe Shakur vs Zayas. That is, if Shakur wills till sign with Top Rank or became a free agent.

So let's see how it will developed, maybe a Jaime Munguia as well but not sure who will be Top Rank's fighter in the super middle weight division.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 03, 2024, 08:12:59 AM

Might be interesting to see Teo Lopez vs Ryan Garcia as the center piece of the fight. And how do you think the match in this fight besides the fighter that I mentioned?

I wouldn't be surprised if Ryan is the heavy favorite if this fight happens. This is one of the fights I would like to see this year—two warriors going against each other. I'm sure it will end with a knockout from either boxer, but I would always back Ryan to win here as I'm impressed with his performance against Haney. I'm not sure if Teo is quick enough to negate Ryan's reach advantage, which I'm sure Ryan will use to prevent Teo's attacks and to dominate the fight.

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What do you think of this idea though?

https://x.com/OscarDeLaHoya/status/1797351748786323874

Obviously they took inspiration for the recent 5 vs 5 in Saudi Arabia, between Matchroom and Queensberry.

Might be interesting to see Teo Lopez vs Ryan Garcia as the center piece of the fight. And how do you think the match in this fight besides the fighter that I mentioned?

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Quote from: pawel7777 on June 02, 2024, 03:29:30 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on June 01, 2024, 06:33:34 PM

And there was no upset here, Bivol clearly outclassed Zinad in this fight and stop him at 6. I do agree with @pawel7777, Zinad has the balls to take Beterbiev's place against the champion here. But he was no match as Bivol is simply too good to be upset by the likes of Zinad.

I think Zinad has gained a lot after that fight despite his first loss. I don't think many of us have ever heard about him before the fight was announced, so he gained a lot in terms of name recognition. I would imagine he got a payday of his lifetime, maybe enough to set him up for life, so he can't complain in this matter. In terms of performance, he didn't avoid exchanges and looked like he believed in his skills and was looking for a win rather than just to survive, that's what boxing fans like the most. And, he can always use the short notice as an excuse or blame the referee for premature stoppage as he didn't fall down etc.

But yeah, Bivol was just on another level and so it ended as expected. This was his first KO/TKO win since 2018.

Give credit to Zinad, he try to be in this fight, was it was obvious that he was outclassed by Bivol in this fight. First tiem for Bivol to score a KO/TKO and it just shows that Zinad is mismatch for him and he was not in the level of Bivol. And after that HI Turki Alalshikh also made official that Bivol’s fight with Beterbiev will be this October 12. And I think Beterbiev could be around 80-90% and his injuries are healing enough to be ready for October. I think that's what we are looking, the next biggest fight for this year, unification and then we also have David Benavidez inserting his name in the LHW division.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on May 26, 2024, 11:51:12 AM

Here are the odds for the full card of the Bivol Vs Zinad next week:

Dmitry Bivol x1.06 vs. Malik Zinad x12.50
Daniel Dubois x2.70 vs. Filip Hrgovic x1.44
Zhilei Zhang x1.61 vs. Deontay Wilder x2.28
Nick Ball x2.38 vs. Ray Ford x1.57
Hamzah Sheeraz x1.44 vs. Austin Williams x2.75
Willy Hutchinson x2.07 vs. Craig Richards x1.73

Which of the above would you consider a good value bet?
I think it's possible that Wilder will redeem himself and could find a way to finish Zhang. Are odds of x2.28 good enough to make such bet? I'm not convinced.

I do agree, looking at this card and the odds, Wilder being the under dog at 2.xx, that is already a very attractive odd as this could be a close fight as we all know that Wilder also have that one punch knockout and so Zhang is not safe to be the betting favorite. And again, stamina is a big factor against Zhang here, chances for him should be in the first half of the fight. If Wilder was able to overcome and survived, he has a great chance to win by knockout as Zhang might get tired. The Under/Over rounds is 6.5 so that's about right and that is the round that I'm seeing here.

I thought Wilder will be the bookies' favourite here. So yeah, 2.x odds is indeed an attractive one for Wilder. If you feel Wilder will come out as winner, definitely, even 2.x odds is already good enough. That's more than double your bet money.
And between Bivol and Zinad, we can say, Bivol is heavy favourite on this match, no doubt. But if you fancy an upset, that's 12.50x in favour for Zinad!

Yep, but unfortunately, we didn't see any upset on the Zhang vs Wilder as Deontay was knockout by Zhang in round 6. That big odds on Wilder though, for sure some of us have fallen on it. Wilder is so light in this fight and obviously didn't have his power against a bigger Zhang who just manhandled him. I might gave the first round to Wilder but that's it.

Zhang is too power, and I will say as well that he has underrated speed, at fight glance you can't see his punch, but in the replay you can see that it was very quick and the moment in landed flush on Wilder's jaw it was over.

Good fight for Bivol, as Zinad put him to the test and as least he had this tune up before the bigger Beterbiev fight.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 01, 2024, 06:33:34 PM

And there was no upset here, Bivol clearly outclassed Zinad in this fight and stop him at 6. I do agree with @pawel7777, Zinad has the balls to take Beterbiev's place against the champion here. But he was no match as Bivol is simply too good to be upset by the likes of Zinad.

I think Zinad has gained a lot after that fight despite his first loss. I don't think many of us have ever heard about him before the fight was announced, so he gained a lot in terms of name recognition. I would imagine he got a payday of his lifetime, maybe enough to set him up for life, so he can't complain in this matter. In terms of performance, he didn't avoid exchanges and looked like he believed in his skills and was looking for a win rather than just to survive, that's what boxing fans like the most. And, he can always use the short notice as an excuse or blame the referee for premature stoppage as he didn't fall down etc.

But yeah, Bivol was just on another level and so it ended as expected. This was his first KO/TKO win since 2018.

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