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Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that Canelo is facing Mungia. Canelo is starting to pick opponents that are beatable but also marketable. Canelo said he is not fighting a Mexican and his next fight is against an American. I say Crawford or Jermall.

But so far Jaime Munguia is a pretty ideal potential opponent for Canelo, considering Mugia performance is currently on fire compared to the other two potential opponents, of course it's quite disappointing if Canelo prefers a weak opponent and to be honest it seems like Canelo is a little afraid of Jaime Munguia and makes somone comes from Mexico as a reason to avoid Jaime Munguia, as we know, Jermall Charlo has taken a break from the world of boxing for a while and if he returns to face Canelo on May 4, of course he won't have enough time to restore his stamina so it will clearly be an easy opponent for Canelo later, apart from that Charlo has reportedly denied that he will fight Canelo because so far Charlo is on holiday and said in an interview that he has not received an offer for the fight, I think so far there doesn't seem to be any solid information about who the opponent will be to faced by Canelo to defend his IBF, WBA, WBC and WBO super middleweight title belts.

Ideal yes, but Canelo as we have been saying, is hiding on the reason that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican, so strike it out, ~~Munguia~~ and ~~Benavidez~~. Charlo though trying to deny for now that he will be the next opponent, so if not him and not Crawford, who will be?

Bivol will have his fight already against Beterbiev, and so he is also out of the equation, and if we look at the champions at 168 lbs, David Morrell is the only one for him. Unless he is willing to fight the number 1 rank in two divisions its, Christian Mbilli.

Then I guess Canelo would retire at the current status as he doesn't want to fight a Mexican boxer. Let's hope that Bivol will win so he has no excuse, a rematch would be fun to watch and people will surely be invested on the fight. Maybe after Bivol beating Beterbiev which is a tough opponent despite an aging boxer already, both camp might agree already with a 50/50 sharing.

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But who the hell is Mbilli? He is not American, not Mexican but a French fighter.

Fighting a mandatory challenger or a boxer with a good rank is okay, but it's better if Canelo would fight a popular one as that would satisfy the fans.

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Quote from: Pesona1 on February 16, 2024, 04:28:16 AM

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Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that Canelo is facing Mungia. Canelo is starting to pick opponents that are beatable but also marketable. Canelo said he is not fighting a Mexican and his next fight is against an American. I say Crawford or Jermall.

But so far Jaime Munguia is a pretty ideal potential opponent for Canelo, considering Mugia performance is currently on fire compared to the other two potential opponents, of course it's quite disappointing if Canelo prefers a weak opponent and to be honest it seems like Canelo is a little afraid of Jaime Munguia and makes somone comes from Mexico as a reason to avoid Jaime Munguia, as we know, Jermall Charlo has taken a break from the world of boxing for a while and if he returns to face Canelo on May 4, of course he won't have enough time to restore his stamina so it will clearly be an easy opponent for Canelo later, apart from that Charlo has reportedly denied that he will fight Canelo because so far Charlo is on holiday and said in an interview that he has not received an offer for the fight, I think so far there doesn't seem to be any solid information about who the opponent will be to faced by Canelo to defend his IBF, WBA, WBC and WBO super middleweight title belts.

Ideal yes, but Canelo as we have been saying, is hiding on the reason that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican, so strike it out, ~~Munguia~~ and ~~Benavidez~~. Charlo though trying to deny for now that he will be the next opponent, so if not him and not Crawford, who will be?

Bivol will have his fight already against Beterbiev, and so he is also out of the equation, and if we look at the champions at 168 lbs, David Morrell is the only one for him. Unless he is willing to fight the number 1 rank in two divisions its, Christian Mbilli. But who the hell is Mbilli? He is not American, not Mexican but a French fighter.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 16, 2024, 03:43:38 AM

Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that Canelo is facing Mungia. Canelo is starting to pick opponents that are beatable but also marketable. Canelo said he is not fighting a Mexican and his next fight is against an American. I say Crawford or Jermall.

But so far Jaime Munguia is a pretty ideal potential opponent for Canelo, considering Mugia performance is currently on fire compared to the other two potential opponents, of course it's quite disappointing if Canelo prefers a weak opponent and to be honest it seems like Canelo is a little afraid of Jaime Munguia and makes somone comes from Mexico as a reason to avoid Jaime Munguia, as we know, Jermall Charlo has taken a break from the world of boxing for a while and if he returns to face Canelo on May 4, of course he won't have enough time to restore his stamina so it will clearly be an easy opponent for Canelo later, apart from that Charlo has reportedly denied that he will fight Canelo because so far Charlo is on holiday and said in an interview that he has not received an offer for the fight, I think so far there doesn't seem to be any solid information about who the opponent will be to faced by Canelo to defend his IBF, WBA, WBC and WBO super middleweight title belts.

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It will certainly sell all of the tickets in Mexico, however, this fight is worldwide. Will it sell much payperview subscriptions? Also, will it sell more subscriptions than the revenge storyine of Canelo vs. Jermall Charlo? The team of Canelo will certainly accept the proposal where he can earn a bigger purse.

Canelo vs. Mungia would sell a lot of pay-per-views in the United States and that's what matters the most. The revenge storyline for Charlo is some contrived phony narrative, we all know Charlo is only doing it for the payday. Charlo is an inactive, washed up has-been that has lost any hunger he might've had. Most people can't even distinguish him from his brother so it just feels like he's fighting the same guy, the result will probably be the exact same too. It is a pointless fight.

Munguia isn't exactly a top pound for pound fighter but he is an exciting fighter who is still in his prime. His brawler style makes the fight more likely to end in knockout, which is something we haven't seen in a Canelo fight in quite some time. Munguia isn't the type of fighter who is just going to try and survive and be happy to go the distance and collect a paycheck, which is what I expect Charlo will do. He will be swinging for the home run with every punch and make it an entertaining fight.

Yes, Latinos especially Mexicans are huge in the US and nearby countries. So Mungia against Canelo will definitely sell a lot. And you are right, the fight is not just a boring survival and outboxing trick that Jermall would most likely do at this stage of his career. Although I think Mungia has matured a bit, I believe he's got better killer instinct when he was younger. That 21-year-old version of Mungia was like a murderer inside the ring. Very hungry, has good reflexes, decent speed, a tough chin, and throws punches not to score points but to KO opponents.

Meanwhile, it seems unlikely that Canelo is facing Mungia. Canelo is starting to pick opponents that are beatable but also marketable. Canelo said he is not fighting a Mexican and his next fight is against an American. I say Crawford or Jermall.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 15, 2024, 11:25:17 PM

It will certainly sell all of the tickets in Mexico, however, this fight is worldwide. Will it sell much payperview subscriptions? Also, will it sell more subscriptions than the revenge storyine of Canelo vs. Jermall Charlo? The team of Canelo will certainly accept the proposal where he can earn a bigger purse.

Canelo vs. Mungia would sell a lot of pay-per-views in the United States and that's what matters the most. The revenge storyline for Charlo is some contrived phony narrative, we all know Charlo is only doing it for the payday. Charlo is an inactive, washed up has-been that has lost any hunger he might've had. Most people can't even distinguish him from his brother so it just feels like he's fighting the same guy, the result will probably be the exact same too. It is a pointless fight.

Munguia isn't exactly a top pound for pound fighter but he is an exciting fighter who is still in his prime. His brawler style makes the fight more likely to end in knockout, which is something we haven't seen in a Canelo fight in quite some time. Munguia isn't the type of fighter who is just going to try and survive and be happy to go the distance and collect a paycheck, which is what I expect Charlo will do. He will be swinging for the home run with every punch and make it an entertaining fight.

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Quote from: Dave1 on February 15, 2024, 06:37:37 AM

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@Dave1. No, Oscar dela Hoya only said something good about Munguia and the sportsnews media hyped it for your clicks heheheh.

No, Oscar has been hyping Munguia since he got him under contract. And we all know that Oscar is good at hyping his fighters. And so with that, his wound with Canelo leaving him is still fresh and he wanted a story line that the young Munguia will be the next Mexican star and will beat Canelo.

Well we can say that the media also hype him, maybe it's because of the youth of Jaime or his personality that is similar to Oscar. Vibrant and young and boxing media love that kind of personality to say the least.

The media hypes him because he won by technical knock out vs. the fighter that went to the decision vs. Canelo. They are certainly doing this for your clicks hehe.

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@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

It will certainly sell all of the tickets in Mexico, however, this fight is worldwide. Will it sell much payperview subscriptions? Also, will it sell more subscriptions than the revenge storyine of Canelo vs. Jermall Charlo? The team of Canelo will certainly accept the proposal where he can earn a bigger purse.

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@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

I want Saul Alvarez to battle Jermall Charlo because it is a match many fans were expecting when he left Matchroom and transferred to PBC. But Mungia against Alvarez in Mexico or in the southern states close to Mexico can be greater than a Jermall Charlo match.

What's bad about this match up is that Jermall Charlo is not very active.

Quote from: Getmon on February 15, 2024, 11:28:49 AM

But how about David Benavidez? He is the boxer in the promotion that was hyped to confront Alvarez. It implies that even PBC cannot choose who Saul "Canelo" Alvarez wants next. Certainly, the advantage of being a cash cow. Perhaps Saudi Arabia can assist in bringing Alvarez and Benavidez into the ring.

He already said that he will not fight another Mexican, so it narrow down to Charlo. PBC hasn't had a tie with the Saudi, so far as far as I know only 3 promotions have taken advantage of the rich oil money in boxing, Top Rank by Bob Arum, Match Room by Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren's Queensberry Promotions. And perhaps this is the mistakes not just by PBC, but Oscar as well by not engaging Saudi and saying that it will hurt their boxers fighting in the Middle East.

And that's what I trying to say earlier, a Charlo fight doesn't make sense for Charlo, except that the risk is not that big. Charlo will have to move one weight class, and just like his brother who move 2 weight class.

For all the marbles, he might fight Crawford, but it doesn't have any noise right now except that Charlo is a PBC guy so most likely he will be the next fighter that Canelo will have this May and with that, so much with his announcement in Mexico's TV Azteca.

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@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

I want Saul Alvarez to battle Jermall Charlo because it is a match many fans were expecting when he left Matchroom and transferred to PBC. But Mungia against Alvarez in Mexico or in the southern states close to Mexico can be greater than a Jermall Charlo match.

What's bad about this match up is that Jermall Charlo is not very active.

Quote from: Getmon on February 15, 2024, 11:28:49 AM

But how about David Benavidez? He is the boxer in the promotion that was hyped to confront Alvarez. It implies that even PBC cannot choose who Saul "Canelo" Alvarez wants next. Certainly, the advantage of being a cash cow. Perhaps Saudi Arabia can assist in bringing Alvarez and Benavidez into the ring.

He already said that he will not fight another Mexican, so it narrow down to Charlo. PBC hasn't had a tie with the Saudi, so far as far as I know only 3 promotions have taken advantage of the rich oil money in boxing, Top Rank by Bob Arum, Match Room by Eddie Hearn and Frank Warren's Queensberry Promotions. And perhaps this is the mistakes not just by PBC, but Oscar as well by not engaging Saudi and saying that it will hurt their boxers fighting in the Middle East.

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@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

I want Saul Alvarez to battle Jermall Charlo because it is a match many fans were expecting when he left Matchroom and transferred to PBC. But Mungia against Alvarez in Mexico or in the southern states close to Mexico can be greater than a Jermall Charlo match.

But how about David Benavidez? He is the boxer in the promotion that was hyped to confront Alvarez. It implies that even PBC cannot choose who Saul "Canelo" Alvarez wants next. Certainly, the advantage of being a cash cow. Perhaps Saudi Arabia can assist in bringing Alvarez and Benavidez into the ring.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 14, 2024, 11:58:16 PM

@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

Depends on the location, if it will be in Mexico, then Munguia vs Canelo might be huge. Or if it is wherein there are a lot of Mexicans like in San Antonio or Munguia's home town of Phoenix, then it will be a lot of money as well.

He will be fighting a Charlo that has been out for almost a 2 years because of mental health, and then a career middle weight fighter.

So it's going to be a hard sell, but then again when he fought Jermell, a 154 lbs it did make good money, 650,000-700,000 pay per view buys. So still Canelo is the cash cow.

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@Dave1. No, Oscar dela Hoya only said something good about Munguia and the sportsnews media hyped it for your clicks heheheh.

No, Oscar has been hyping Munguia since he got him under contract. And we all know that Oscar is good at hyping his fighters. And so with that, his wound with Canelo leaving him is still fresh and he wanted a story line that the young Munguia will be the next Mexican star and will beat Canelo.

Well we can say that the media also hype him, maybe it's because of the youth of Jaime or his personality that is similar to Oscar. Vibrant and young and boxing media love that kind of personality to say the least.

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@btc_angela. On David Benavidez, agreed! However, on Munguia, who is this fighter? Who are the big names in his record? John Ryder? This is headshaking. Canelo will body punch him and put him on a stetcher.

@Dave1. No, Oscar dela Hoya only said something good about Munguia and the sportsnews media hyped it for your clicks heheheh.

@Baofeng. What fight would make more money, if Munguia fights Canelo or if Charlo fights Canelo?

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 13, 2024, 11:45:32 PM

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Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

It will be Charlo, I reckon. This has a revenge the brother storyline that can certainly cause much excitement for the fans heheehe. Canelo can lose vs. David Benavidez, it will certainly be good for him to avoid Benavidez. On Munguia, who is this? He knocks out John Ryder then everyone considers him worthy to challenge for the unified super middleweight championship? This is very head shaking, Munguia was only hyped by the sportsnews media after Oscar dela Hoya mentioned him that he is the best in the world. He clearly does not believe this.

Same here mate, I'm seeing that Canelo will choose Charlo as it is less riskier for him at this point. David Benavidez is huge while Munguia is with Oscar and maybe he doesn't want to give his former promoter a chance hehehe. And both two are Mexicans and Canelo "doesn't want to fight another Mexican".

Or the reason that you have to earn your fight with him, Lol.

And obviously Canelo did sign with PBC so it's going to be a PBC fighter in Jermall Charlo. So Canelo right now is full of contradiction. Saying that he is willing to fight the best and then later fight the twins who are way below the super middleweight and one came from injury and then the other long layoff because of mental issues.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 13, 2024, 11:45:32 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2024, 05:44:09 PM

Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

It will be Charlo, I reckon. This has a revenge the brother storyline that can certainly cause much excitement for the fans heheehe. Canelo can lose vs. David Benavidez, it will certainly be good for him to avoid Benavidez. On Munguia, who is this? He knocks out John Ryder then everyone considers him worthy to challenge for the unified super middleweight championship? This is very head shaking, Munguia was only hyped by the sportsnews media after Oscar dela Hoya mentioned him that he is the best in the world. He clearly does not believe this.

Or maybe it was Oscar plan to get his revenge on Benavidez, after he gets out of this contract with Oscar and then obviously there are sour feelings between the two. So definitely there will be a storyline for this fight.

But then again, with Canelo already having a good money in his pocket already and doesn't want to take risk, then Jermall Charlo will be a good choice for him under his PBC contract. If I'm Benavidez though, I will go directly to 175 lbs and chance greatness and wait for the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 13, 2024, 11:45:32 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2024, 05:44:09 PM

Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

It will be Charlo, I reckon. This has a revenge the brother storyline that can certainly cause much excitement for the fans heheehe. Canelo can lose vs. David Benavidez, it will certainly be good for him to avoid Benavidez. On Munguia, who is this? He knocks out John Ryder then everyone considers him worthy to challenge for the unified super middleweight championship? This is very head shaking, Munguia was only hyped by the sportsnews media after Oscar dela Hoya mentioned him that he is the best in the world. He clearly does not believe this.

Yeah, I don't think that Canelo is going to give either Munguia or Benavidez a chance to fight and beat him. Canelo is on the twilight of his career and just fighting for the money and he thinks that he sealed his legacy already.

But one thing we can comment if he decided to fight another Charlo is,

Both of them are coming up to his weight class, the first Charlo, 154 lbs and then the second one is 160 lbs. So he made them jump up and so the advantage is on Canelo. So I don't think that it will sit with his fans or even his critics for fighting Jermall next.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2024, 05:44:09 PM

Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

It will be Charlo, I reckon. This has a revenge the brother storyline that can certainly cause much excitement for the fans heheehe. Canelo can lose vs. David Benavidez, it will certainly be good for him to avoid Benavidez. On Munguia, who is this? He knocks out John Ryder then everyone considers him worthy to challenge for the unified super middleweight championship? This is very head shaking, Munguia was only hyped by the sportsnews media after Oscar dela Hoya mentioned him that he is the best in the world. He clearly does not believe this.

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Oh well, I thought that Canelo will announced his next fight as everyone is eager to wait for it since Monday when all the boxing social media says that he will make a important announcement this Tuesday,

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The Mexican superstar stated during an interview with TV Azteca, with which he announced the renewal of their broadcast partnership in his home country, that he will return to the ring May 4 in Las Vegas. The date and city for Alvarez’s next fight were well known, but the four-division champion also noted that he will face an American opponent that night, not a fellow Mexican.

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-indirectly-rules-out-munguia-opponent-4-fight-azteca-tv-announcement--181402

But I have a feeling that his next fight will be Charlo and not Munguia or Benavidez.

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They cannot force themselves to fight each other while there are lots of opportunities waiting for them and they could just simply make this fight happen after they successfully beat every challenger and run out of any available opponent that could fit their strength. Anyway, that would be best for them if they could just wait before making any arrangements for their fight because as we know, Inoue is slowly making a world record for himself and not letting this chance go to waste because this is not something others can have to demolish everyone who wants to challenge him and take their belts.

I agree with you, each fighter will go their own way in making decisions, they have more fights that can challenge in the future for more titles.
When all of this is failed just because of fight that some people hope for then they will regret it, there will be nothing valuable that can be obtained in the future.
It better to really fight in the right place where everything is equal in weight and class entered, this will be able to provide more dominant success.

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IMO, he should stay where he is right now and wait for more challengers to come. But if he's bored there already and can't do that much then it's time for him to start challenging on a higher weight division. That's the way to go for him to get more championships and he's already proven himself to his current weight class. If he wants to prove more things then that's what he has to do as he's already unbeatable and proved as a monster there.

Inoue has been able to combine 4 titles and get an undisputed title, this is very short success and there is no point in staying in one place.
It time for Inoue to move up to another higher division and get more titles in better class, he is monster in his class and no opponent can really compete for the titles he already has.
Waiting for challenger would only be waste of time.
But not against Davis because Inoue really has to be the same weight.

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And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

That is very bad for Gervonta Davis, first you don't piss off HE Alalshikh, haven't he noticed that the big fights are happening in Saudi and obviously, he could have been part of it as there are big money flowing in every direction, Eddie Hearn is very lucky that he is very close to the Saudi right now and see that he is thriving with it.

Oscar dela Hoya is really trying to get his hands on the oil money as well. But it seems that HE Alalshikh is also not keen on Oscar.

So this a wrong promotional move from Gervonta and I don't think that he can have a fight in ME and so second, he is missing on that huge paycheck.

Maybe he is satisfied with fighting in the USA. Most of the biggest fighter happened in the US, this Saudi fight is quite new and probably the trend for big fights happening there but thee's always a place in the US to make some big money. Davis could have say no, but being dispectful although in an indirect way, it's not a good way to deal with Alalshikh since we never know what could come in the future.

Davis probably just trying to be himself, bad at marketing but made a decent PPV on his fight with Ryan Garcia, that might be his biggest paycheck in his career if he doesn't behave well. But that's his life, so let him handle that.

But as you have said, Saudi is new but they keep on trending. And there are a US promoter that can milk the oil money there, and it was only Bob Arum for now. Oscar is trying to break into the picture as have said, but I think he says something negative about having fight in the Middle East but now instantly regretting it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-appeals-turki-alalshikh-i-make-you-proud--181008

And obviously, Floyd is also making fights in their with his exhibitions and making cool and easy millions.

Tank and PBC should think about it, there are huge money there and he should be at least marketable as their goal is to take advantage while he was still very young.

Saudi money is paying more than the US fights which is why there's a flock of fighters that are willing to fight there. But Alalshikh from now on wanted the real fights, not the cherry-picking and the casual type of fights. Tank obviously can earn more in Saudi but so far he remains a coward still unwilling to fight champions at 135 and 140. So Davis is not qualified to fight in Saudi which is why Alalshikh made fun of him by saying he will send a pair of gloves instead of raris. Tank's not getting younger too. But maybe he is contented cherry picking in the US, luckily for him and PBC, they have a lot of casual loyalist fans.

So far Matchroom, Top Rank and its partner in the UK Queensberry are in making big fights in Saudi. I expect Oscar De La Hoya's GBP to offer its fighters as well. A scheduled Matchroom vs Queensberry fighters event is also expected and it's going to be big.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 05, 2024, 01:47:28 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on February 05, 2024, 12:14:22 AM

Quote from: Getmon on February 04, 2024, 01:20:51 AM

And His Highness, Turki Alalshikh has a ruthless reaction to the Ferrari demands of Gervonta Davis. Alalshikh stated that he would send only two gloves. That implies Alalshikh is not accepting the delayings numerous boxers are doing whatever it takes to not face the best.
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/04/65bef0d9e2704eab188b4579.html

That is very bad for Gervonta Davis, first you don't piss off HE Alalshikh, haven't he noticed that the big fights are happening in Saudi and obviously, he could have been part of it as there are big money flowing in every direction, Eddie Hearn is very lucky that he is very close to the Saudi right now and see that he is thriving with it.

Oscar dela Hoya is really trying to get his hands on the oil money as well. But it seems that HE Alalshikh is also not keen on Oscar.

So this a wrong promotional move from Gervonta and I don't think that he can have a fight in ME and so second, he is missing on that huge paycheck.

Maybe he is satisfied with fighting in the USA. Most of the biggest fighter happened in the US, this Saudi fight is quite new and probably the trend for big fights happening there but thee's always a place in the US to make some big money. Davis could have say no, but being dispectful although in an indirect way, it's not a good way to deal with Alalshikh since we never know what could come in the future.

Davis probably just trying to be himself, bad at marketing but made a decent PPV on his fight with Ryan Garcia, that might be his biggest paycheck in his career if he doesn't behave well. But that's his life, so let him handle that.

But as you have said, Saudi is new but they keep on trending. And there are a US promoter that can milk the oil money there, and it was only Bob Arum for now. Oscar is trying to break into the picture as have said, but I think he says something negative about having fight in the Middle East but now instantly regretting it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-appeals-turki-alalshikh-i-make-you-proud--181008

And obviously, Floyd is also making fights in their with his exhibitions and making cool and easy millions.

Tank and PBC should think about it, there are huge money there and he should be at least marketable as their goal is to take advantage while he was still very young.

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