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I'm not sure if even Casimero believes this. Fulton held two world titles when Inoue beat him as did Marlon Tapales. I don't see how Casimero can be above them when he holds zero world championships and didn't look great in his previous fight against an unranked opponent. At this stage in his career the only motivation for still chasing an Inoue fight is the possibility of a seven figure payday. If we're being realistic, his chances of beating Inoue are really slim.



Devin Haney is a distant 3rd for me. His win against Loma wasn't convincing. It's a tossup between Inoue and Crawford. Inoue was more active and won all 4 belts in a year. Although I consider Spence a manufactured champion who was protected from Crawford for many years, due to PBC's influence with the sanctioning bodies, he was still highly regarded. Crawford beating him so brutally gives him a slight edge over Inoue in my opinion.

For sure those Saudi Arabian wants a decent fight to behold but as you have said they don't know maybe Dmitry Bivol or maybe Artur Beterbiev will be sure if they can make a great boxing event these two are a real deal and could potentially make a decent amount of profit when done perfectly as for sure there are promoters that will surely pay for a decent boxing fight but for sure both their promoters will surely request something that the other will not like so that is the hard part for the Dmitry Bivol VS Artur Beterbiev fight to attain, it got plenty of requests and in the end both parties will just not agree but imagine the possibilities,

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw0IpVRHZmw

Actually, this video was a month ago and I have just recently seen it today, for sure we all know that Tyson Fury just recently had a bout against Francis Ngannou and was kind of shocked by what Ngannou can do to him, in actuality I think Tyson Fury did underestimate Francis Ngannou and what he can do with boxing gloves and from that day on, Francis Ngannou has proven that an MMA fighter can surely get it done with a boxer in a boxing ring, but for sure this is in the Heavyweight division what if it is on the fast pace division but Conor McGregor can not do it, while this is the first time an MMA fighter proves everyone wrong, well February 17, 2024, will be the date for Tyson Fury VS Oleksandr Usyk fight I don't know if that was move or this is indeed the date because of the Press Conference video,

Most likely Inoue will win but I don't see the fight to be an easy win by Inoue. Of all the boxers that Inoue beat, I believe Casimero is different. There's a chance that he could hurt Inoue since he is also a heavy puncher, and not only that, he is not afraid to go toe to toe, that's Casimero, he is a road warrior, so venue is not a big deal for him.


Yes, Emanuel Navarrete fought 3 times this year.
You can look https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/602423

There's so much hype on this third potential match of Inoue on 2024. If this is already on the books, then we will have to wait because I think that he's going to beat Casimero as well.

But as long as it's not yet official and confirmed because it's still far and too many things can still happen within the period of time.

Honestly, three matches for a year, that's a lot IMO. Are there any other professional boxers that have fought three times a year or more than that?

If I have to vote, then I will go with Crawford as fighter of the year, the way he dominated a great fighter in Spence, with 0 losses in his record and everyone thinks that this is a close fight. But then Crawford took everything from Spence that night and then he captures his 2nd unification belt in 2 weight class and put his name on the record and cemented his legacy? For me he is the BOTY.

For Haney, his win against Loma is questionable and although he won another belt in 140 lbs, Prograis is not that high level boxer to be honest. His previous win against Danielito Zorrilla shows sign that Prograis is slowin down already and the Haney's know this.

For Inoue, he beat Fulton, but it is expected, same with his conquest of Tapales, odds is like 1.07 so again he what we call outstanding favorite to win that fight.

So Crawford, Inoue and Haney in that order for me.

Since we are almost at the end of the year, who do you think should be the Boxer of the year?

Here are the list of candidates:

1. Terrence Crawford - beat Spence, another pound for pound boxer, and then captured and unified all the belts at 147 lbs?

2. Devin Haney - undisputed at 130 lbs beat Loma, move up in weight and then dominated Prograis to win the WBC belt?

3. Naoya Inoue - move up in weight, challenge the best champion at 122 lbs in Stephen Fulton, then unified the belt against Marlon Tapales, second man to do so, unifying belts in 4 belt era in 2 different weight classes, second only to Crawford.

if they really see Casimero going to beat Inoue, they wouldn't want to ruin the party yet. they are making money with Inoue. they know whoever fights against Inoue will lose and Arum and friends will generate money from his fights.

if they kill Inoue's career by making him fight Casimero. cash cow will be dead. they might not want that to happen for now and they will probably wait til Casimero is beaten by father time with a huge bod.

Inoue could fight these two but he can never skip Casimero.

It's okay if he'll fight Casimero last, as long as the fight will happen. He was interviewed, and it came from his mouth that he is interested with Casimero also, aside from the two boxers that was mentioned.


Forget about his trash talking, there's nothing to be serious with that, it's his brand in boxing and he just have to live with that. I don't like to hear from Casimero that he don't want to fight Casimero because he is disrespectful, or talk trash a lot because that's certainly just an excuse.

All the boxers that Inoue had defeated is not on Casimero's level because the opponents of Casimero that he beat are very quality fighters.

I think this is going to be a dream for boxing fans to see Inoue against this 3 boxers. And as fans, we have mentioned already that this is the only fight that make sense for Inoue, to stay at 122 lbs and fought those names and somewhat clean up the division before moving up.

There have been a lot of talks of him and Nery fighting. And then Akhmadaliev winning a week ago makes him another candidate or mandatory for Inoue's belt.

And then the trash talking another Filipino in Casimero, they already have supposedly scheduled fight, Casimero just needed to defend his belt against Butler. But the rest is history. However, as you have said, this two are destined to face each here at 122 lbs.

This is the wishlist of most fans right now because all of a sudden they give him another chance but this will not be possible unless Casimero shows some good fights that could make his chance to fight Inoue increase drastically because of that and he needs to be back as the brawler who easily knocks out his opponent and not to be like his last fight where he always ends it controversially or in a draw. That won't attract any promoters to give him a chance because other boxers have more chances to bring huge money for them and it would be another heartbreak for Casimero because he is getting older and the dream fight is still not approved.

Inoue isn't that much of a talkative guy so a lot of the media are trying to reach out to his Japanese promoter Hideyuki Ohashi. So the plan is for the undisputed champion to defend all the belts 3-times in 2024. Bigger venues like the Tokyo Dome that could seat 40,000 fans are considered. Las Vegas and Saudi Arabia are also mentioned.

The first title defense is targeted against former 2-division world champion Luis Nery of Mexico. Nery is banned in Japan so it's most likely happening in the US unless the Saudis can offer bigger.

The second title defense will be against former unified champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev who lost a highly disputed decision to Marlon Tapales. Akhmadaliev also won the WBA eliminator in his last fight which means Inoue has to fight him or get stripped of his WBA belt.

The planned third title defense will be against Johnreil Casimero, a 3-division world champion. Inoue and Casimero were scheduled already to unify their belts when the pandemic of COVID-19 happened. It was canceled but it seems like they are destined to really face each other.

We have seen boxers moving up having trouble to either carry their power or making the weight. But Inoue is still hitting his prime and I think he can make it at 126 lbs but as you have said it going to be very difficult.

But I think he can get at least one belt at featherweight, I'm not saying that it's a week division. But his chances are high as the champion here are beatable. Rey Vargas is tall obviously, but when he tries to go up in weight he lost his fight and I think it will be a great match for Inoue on how to conquer a taller fighter like Vargas. Or the likes of Luis Lopez who loves to bang inside. But he has a fight scheduled in March against Reiya Abe, number 1 in IBF and his mandatory.

They have their own strategies inside the ring and I still think that Tapales is a good one after receiving all of those hooks that are like bombs. He's still managed to stand long for 10 rounds. That's already a long round but it would give him more applaud if he'll be able to finish all of the rounds and it will have a unanimous decision

I don't think that Inoue will agree to fight outside Japan. He's the champion and he's the one to dictate where he wants to fight but if he's okay with that then that's going to give him more credibility. What I am saying, many fans will look up higher on him if he allows his next fight to happen outside his country. Going away from home and you'll have to defend your title, that's something else and not all boxers are like him because they just give the demand of the fans or wherever they are confident to defend their belts.

And we can say that this is where things becomes more tougher on which climbing up on higher weigh division would really be needing up on beefing up more and on the recent match that we have seen of Inoue, yes his body composure is noticeable in Inoue on which he looks big and wide. Still has the power but the speed has been lower comparing into those less weight class on which its understandable. If he would be planning to step up again on other division then he should make himself prepared to those champions who had been sitting or holding the belt.
It wont really be something that easy that he could get those belts. Im not underestimating Inoue but i could say that it would be tough.

my opinion on this is that Inoue is already far far above than the level of casimero right now. so before casimero, even with japanese manager can get a deal with inoue's camp, there will be several big fights before he can get a fight with inoue. i would say casimero wasted his chances before. it was already too close for him to get a fight with inoue, but fight after fight, either he failed to reached the weight requirements, or the fight was suspended.

but sure, the chances are always there as long as casimero keeps on fighting and winning his fights. and also, so long they are on the same weight division. if one of them go in the upper division, that's when the chances will get lower.

though inoue has record of 26-0, and casimero as 33-4-1. inoue has bigger name in the boxing world right now over casimero. but i guess, if casimero will work out again to win fight after fight, he has good chance to face inoue in the future but should not wait another 6 years to happen as casimero is already 40 by that time.

That's the burden of being a unified champion, once you got all the belts, there could be mandatory fight for you and of course you can't give everyone their mandatory. Maybe vacated some belts and defend 1 or 2 next year and that's it, go to the next weight class at 126 and continue to chase greatness.

Maybe Neri next fight for him in the US, and Akhmadaliev.

He can target all the champion at 126 lbs in his first fight at that division for sure the governing body is willing to do it for him and definitely, the champions are willing and going to welcome him like Rey Vargas or Luis Lopez.

I'm not sure if he can get a chance to fight Inoue even after he took a Japanese manager because Inoue now is a living legend in boxing history and he is making a name for himself right now and in that case, all eyes are on him and there are many fighters in their weight division wanted to fight him and get themselves the chance to prove their capability. As of now, Casimero's only chance is to raise his rank and knock out all his opponents to be acknowledged and get his ticket to fight Inoue but if he cannot do that and always shows a sluggish fight like last time, then there will be no other chance at all.

Sooner or later, he will relinquish one of those belts because of mandatory but they will never mind that as the record has already been etched in history. Team Inoue said that they will stay at the super bantamweight division but I doubt that as there is not much money fight or records that needs to be broken if he stays in the 122 lbs division. One or two fights in this division then fight for the title in the 126, that might be the scenario for Inoue in the next few months or years.

Yeah, he is known for putting up hard and grind fights like the one he did against Akhmadaliev, if only Tapales has the power in this fight, he could have hurt Inoue with those upper cut of his.


I can speculate that maybe his team wanted him to become comfortable at super bantam. It's not like he has problems making the weight here, on the contrary, both Tapales and Inoue weigh less than the required 122 lbs. So he might stay here for a while, defend some of the belts, clean up the division by facing the likes of Akhmadaliev, Neri and then John Riel Casimero.

Ok, now I know why Nery is the next line as he is the WBC mandatory. And that is the problem though with having all the belts now, different body are now going to setup you up with their mandatory that if Inoue can't fulfill it, he might be strip of the belt. WBA is Murodjon Akhmadaliev and then IBF/WBO is Sam Goodman rated as number 1. So he will have everything full in the next 12 months as they are talking about Nery and Inoue fighting in May. I think Quadro Alas will have to wait his turn, his only rating is IBF and WBO and he needs to get a impressive win before they can talk him as the next potential opponent.