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It's not about likeable or what, he was chosen because Canelo and his camp knows that they can beat this kid. Literally, he is, very young, not much of a experience under his belt. And we can compare this fight when Canelo was relatively unknown and Mayweather gives him the chance. It was Oscar who really did that to Canelo, giving him the break to fight in the US for the first time.

Anyhow, it's about 2 weeks away from this fight, give and take. And for sure they have seen the Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney fight. Which means they are thinking that this kind of upsets do really happen and most likely Munguia will want the winning streak of GBP with another huge win here.

I do agree, this kid is likeable, I mean he is not a trash talking, although if you talk bad about him, for sure he will comeback and bark at you. And this is also the reason why Canelo give him the shot as he says that this kid is respectful, maybe he is pertaining to Benavidez as well, another Mexican that almost trash talk and says something that is not nice against Canelo (but who knows, maybe this is just another excuse from him). Nevertheless, we have taken notice of this kid and we will give him a chance because we have seen the underdog in Ryan Garcia totally dominating the favorite in Devin Haney and win that fight and earn the respect of boxing fans.

I really like Jaime Munguia this kid has a future and right now those punches of Jaime Munguia are really something that kind of reminded me of how Pacquiao is still starting and while Canelo has cut ties with the Golden Boy Production there is a new favorite for Oscar in picking some apple that has fallen from the same tree for sure all eh love to see the destruction of Canelo for sure.


For sure that hype was part of the manipulation and for a fight to be reignited like this it could be a good thing because there are now many people who want to see that fight who would not want to witness such a spectacle for sure many boxing fans would love to see that fight and for sure there will be more people that will be stocking up with Jaime Munguia side and many will certainly want that to happen.

And the underdog betting continues hehehe, Ryan Garcia proved it can be done and with them the same stable with Golden Boy, maybe at the back of his mind, he is thinking that he can do it as long as he believed in his ability to defeat Canelo.

By chance Munguia defeated Canelo, it will be huge for fans who loves to bet on the underdog and obviously Oscar very happy. I'm also seeing some boxers predicting that Munguia might pull some surprises here so let's see. Boxers is good as their last fight, but they could out of their prime overnight, just saying.

Yeah, that could true. What if we are gonna witness here another defeat of Canelo. Just like his fight with Bivol, he was the heavy favorite but he loss in that fight. I just don't like what Canelo is doing because  he is not talking risk fighting fighters that are top rated, but who  knows he might be wrong in picking Jaime and might upset here.

At the stage of his career, he should be focusing on bigger fights, like pushing his limit as eventually he will retire, at least he tried to give impress the fans by giving them a more exciting fight to watch.

Going to be a mismatch if this fight is going to happen, obviously it will be boxing rules so Sugar Sean is at a disadvantage. Everyone is now calling Ryan or at least Ryan is looking for big names at 147 lbs. And I don't think that Dana will allow this cross over fights, no Ngannou scenario again, MMA fighters getting knockout.

Oscar said that they can do a catchweight of Tank, but he can fight full at 147-154 lbs. Romero is out of the pictures already as per Oscar.

So everything is going on Ryan's way right now, for Haney, needs to take this year off and get a tune up fight next year. No immediate rematch for him.

For gamblers who got a big nerve and love taking the big risk, placing bet for Munguia will surely satisfied their appetite, knowing that in gambling upset can happened, we don't know for sure if he may do that against Alvarez but then again we just watch that kind of upset previously with Garcia and Haney, though different fighters and also different breed and fighting capabilities, more on determinations and how they will prepare themselves for this fight.

Regarding to that said odd, if you are aiming for Alvarez maybe better to wait for other alternative options, which mostly shows up when the fight is nearing or in the actual live fight bookies may offer other options to gamble.

News update for the fans of boxing and mixed martial arts together.

According to Sugar Sean O'Malley, boxing against Ryan Garcia is not an impossible occurrence. We have witnessed uncle Dana mention before that he does not like to promote something similar to Conor vs. Money Mayweather anymore. He did not tell everyone his reasons. I speculate this is because uncle Dana certainly knows that his UFC fighters will be defeated and become the jokes of the internet again hehehehehh.

In any case, Sugar Sean might convince the uncle Dana if he will give the Machine a knockout and the next opponent after the Machine another knockout.



UFC bantamweight champion Sean O'Malley claims he’s had preliminary discussions with the UFC brass about a future boxing match against Ryan Garcia, and it’s not out of the realm of possibility.

Garcia has captured the attention of the combat sports world in recent days after he concluded an erratic and concerning build to his boxing match against Devin Haney with a shocking majority decision victory Saturday at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Garcia’s performance, in which he scored three knockdowns on Haney, turned him from a seemingly toxic force to a desirable matchup for many. That includes O’Malley, who has been beating the drum for a future fight against Garcia, and thinks that pursuit is now only more realistic.

“A boxing fight’s possible, for sure,” O’Malley said on Monday’s episode of the “TimboSugarShow” podcast. “I’m not there yet. I’ve still got to become bigger. Two more f*cking sick performances, then we’re talking about being able to do it.”

Source https://au.sports.yahoo.com/sean-o-malley-ufc-could-193059228.html

I think Jaime is too underrated by the oddsmakers here. He is undefeated, former champion, young and heavy handed. Canelo though has the edge when it comes to skills and experience but Mungia will have the physical advantage being the younger fighter.

The difference with Haney is the punching power. If Haney has the power he could've put Garcia down with those body punches. Garcia's defense is still average but Haney does not have the power. Which is why I still cannot see Ryan capable of winning against the likes of Teofimo Lopez and Subriel Matias. Unless of course if Garcia hurt them right from the start as it will change the tempo of the fight.

I don't think that any oddmakers are going over or under when they list their odds in the market. This punters really know what they are doing and so I don't think they have misplaced it. Munguia is the obvious underdog and Canelo being the cash cow and the A-side will be the favorite here just like in the Bivol fight. But it's not always 100% that the favorite is going to win, obviously as we have been played by Ryan Garcia as he is also a 7:1 underdog at some point and then won in a dominating fashion against the favorite Haney.

So who knows, it could be worth to put some $$$ on Munguia here and we could have witnessed 2-0 underdog win for GBP. This fight is just a couple of weeks and maybe we could see some swings in the odds, at least some movement to close that huge gap and whales shelling out money on Munguia.

Seems fair in my opinion, Usually Canelo is really a huge favorite in his fight. But when Ryan won the fight, it makes us think that we should look at the underdog very closely like Jaime Munguia here against Canelo.

Volume will be the key for Munguia and with his youth, I'm expecting him not to get tired and he should really work with that stamina because he will need a lot of it in this fight. The blueprint has been there already, Bivol shows how to beat Canelo, so let's see if Munguia have learn from it and another big upset in boxing for this year is going to happen.

Wrong, they are not on the same stable, Canelo has left Golden Boy Promotions years ago, and that's why Oscar is very salty of Canelo for leaving him. And as being promoted, Oscar wanted to get back at Canelo, and he wants his new prodigy, Jaime Munguia to beat Canelo here.


Yes, because Canelo and Munguia shows mutual respect. That's why it was Oscar who are promoting this fight to have that kind of storyboard for him. Munguia. Oscar even said that he will beat Canelo in his prime. And just like I said, he is reigniting their so called feud to make the fans more interested to see this fight.

I know, I remember your post about him and his mental state. But like the majority of us who thinks that he will not survived this fight, everyone was fooled and we lost our money betting against King Ry. On the other hand, there are reports that he bet on himself to win as he was a like a 7:1 underdog and obviously wins millions to cover what he had lost in the bet and paying the Haney's $1.5 million. I don't think that it will be the end of his career if he lost, but surely his popularity will take a hit and maybe not sell that much tickets next. But it's just the start for Ryan as Oscar is talking about the future from 147 lbs to 154 lbs fight and Ryan being the new face of boxing.

I still can’t believe that Ryan Garcia fooled everyone and got the win last weekend. I’m happy for him but I honestly didn’t think he had a chance with where his mind was at. He cost me a pretty big parlay victory as the final leg I needed, but I’m honestly glad for him. Had he lost that fight it very well could have been the end of his career.

Munguia and Canelo are both in the same stable and that's why some people think there is bad blood which there could be truth to it.
Looking at the odds, seems very favorable to Canelo and I thought Munguia is a decent pick that could have a 1.17 - 2.0 since Munguia is young and a title holder for more than 5 years. But because Canelo is still 33, you could say he is still in a prime age.

Somehow it feels like there is not much hype for the Munguia vs Canelo fight compared to Ryan vs Haney which is still overly hyped even after the fight.

We can not say that Devin Haney is just hype and that he is really weaker, Devin Haney is definitely in another league it is just that Ryan Garcia attains a similar status and if I could bet on that fight I may have bet for Devin Haney because Ryan Garcia had lost against Gervonta Davis and even though Gervonta Davis and Devin Haney doesn't fight yet I got a huge confident on Haney winning this fight but it has all crumbled When Ryan Garcia did the unthinkable he is the underdog but he has proven that he can defeat Devin Haney.


For having a referee like that for sure they wanted to rob Ryan Garcia of this win and let Devin Haney win, for sure Gervonta Davis felt and noticed the speed of Ryan Garcia because he had already fought him and Gervonta Davis now had a taste of the real Ryan Garcia and all he can do is just warn Haney that is why Tank wanted a dehydration weight draining thing for Garcia to slowed him down, for sure there is no other way to slow down the kid.


For me this is just my opinion, after that great win against Devin Haney I want to see a rematch against Gervonta "Tank" Davis, and this time without that Rehydration clause that he is giving against Ryan Garcia, but now that he won against Haney Ryan Garcia still doesn't get the belt that is because Ryan Garcia missed the weight for the fight and coming in 3.2 pounds over the 140-pound limit. Rather than the bout being canceled, Garcia instead opted to pay Haney compensation to ensure that it went ahead.

@5.10... He was underestimated for sure? This looks like a similar odds on Haney vs Garcia fight but as we all know, there was a big upset happen in that fight as Garcia came to dominate Haney. Not sure if it could happen here but we all know that anything is possible in boxing. I hope I can see a knockout, it's always entertaining to see one, and since Jaime Munguia is still undefeated and has a decent KO rate, it should not be impossible for him to knockout Canelo.

I don't want to think that there is blood bath between Canelo and Oscar. I think both has move on and Oscar is still making a lot of money from his other boxers. Maybe it's just the media that wanted to put a spin on all of this to hype the fight.

Definitely, if Munguia wins then Oscar will be in heaven as two of his boxers won as biggest underdogs and Munguia becoming the next Mexican superstars. While Garcia can move up to 147 lbs and then chase bigger names and again, make a lot of money for this year alone.

For the odds, I see that the odds maker make it right and didn't underestimate Jaime.

Well, in the boxing industry, it's not new for us that the referees are also involved in helping the boxer they want to win and it happens a lot, from slow counting, to not calling a foul and deducting points for whoever boxer they are helping with and this time, it's clearly that they also helping Haney to win against Garcia but they failed to do so because Garcia Stunned him throughout the rounds and he can't do anything about it despite the ref has helped him in anyway shape or form that are not obvious to the other newbies. That's why, underdogs are always working harder to knock out their opponents especially when they fight on their opponent's territory. Have you guys seen the worst ref ever? it happened in Nigeria, I forgot the title though you can search for it.

No it's not a misplaced on the part of sport bookies, Munguia is young and has the power, but Canelo has the experience and the quality of the opponents that Canelo has face before. Imagine a GGG vs Munguia, who do you think will win in that fight. The Canelo vs Bivol is different though, Canelo is going up in weight at 175 and we can see that somewhat, the extra poundage in his body makes him slow and that is not his weight class. As here, he is the undisputed in this SMW and no one has beaten him here. And so that is a big task for the young Jaime Munguia. But who knows, if Ryan can do it, then there is a chance for Munguia as well. And if that happens, then it will be 2-0 for Golden Boy in high profile fights. And for sure, Oscar will be happy to get his revenge from Canelo himself.