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December 25, 2023, 12:01:34 AM
And it's going hard to sell if they push the AJ vs Wilder fight, I mean fans know that Wilder by this time is done already, he might still have that power, but if he can't hit any that he can't win this fight. Post fight, he said that he didn't know what happen, it seems that he can't pull the trigger according to him. And I remember coach Roach during the Pacquiao vs Oscar Dela Hoya that Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore.

So if boxers suddenly have that kind of experience and mentality, they could really be out of their prime years already and it could be a sign that they will have to retire for good. Not sure though if AJ vs Parker will push through in Saudi next year. So Joshua doesn't have a good dance partner and he should have fought Wilder way before when they are still the hottest HW that time. But they seems to not want to, until Fury come into the picture.

Wilder, according to compubox hits only 9 out of 219 (correct me if i'm wrong) power punches, that's awful. Parker exposed Wilder big time and if ever Wilder fight one more time, his opponent will definitely use that Parker template on how to defeat him.

Parker ruined the Saudi party, that's Wilder's fight to win but it ever the Joshua vs Parker fight pushes through, this is also a good one. Good tune-up fight for AJ before ultimately facing Fury in the "Battle of Britain".
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December 24, 2023, 11:08:18 PM
Wilder is so done, when he can't knockout his opponent, he'll lose. That's what happen to his fight against Parker as he wasn't boxing, he was just looking for that one punched KO, but it didn't happen.

I would say that it's a big upset because Wilder is the heavy favorite.

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Saturday, December 23rd

Anthony Joshua (-455) vs. Otto Wallin (+345) - Main Event
Deontay Wilder (-650) vs. Joseph Parker (+460) - Co-Main Event


https://www.si.com/fannation/betting/wilder-vs-parker-joshua-vs-wallin-betting-picks-best-bets-fight-time-december-23-2023

I was a bit dissapointed as I was thinking the Wilder vs AJ fight would happen, but this looks like the end of it, I mean it's not gonna happen and we might see Parker vs AJ?

And it's going hard to sell if they push the AJ vs Wilder fight, I mean fans know that Wilder by this time is done already, he might still have that power, but if he can't hit any that he can't win this fight. Post fight, he said that he didn't know what happen, it seems that he can't pull the trigger according to him. And I remember coach Roach during the Pacquiao vs Oscar Dela Hoya that Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore.

So if boxers suddenly have that kind of experience and mentality, they could really be out of their prime years already and it could be a sign that they will have to retire for good. Not sure though if AJ vs Parker will push through in Saudi next year. So Joshua doesn't have a good dance partner and he should have fought Wilder way before when they are still the hottest HW that time. But they seems to not want to, until Fury come into the picture.
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December 24, 2023, 06:58:46 AM
Wilder is so done, when he can't knockout his opponent, he'll lose. That's what happen to his fight against Parker as he wasn't boxing, he was just looking for that one punched KO, but it didn't happen.

I would say that it's a big upset because Wilder is the heavy favorite.

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Saturday, December 23rd

Anthony Joshua (-455) vs. Otto Wallin (+345) - Main Event
Deontay Wilder (-650) vs. Joseph Parker (+460) - Co-Main Event


https://www.si.com/fannation/betting/wilder-vs-parker-joshua-vs-wallin-betting-picks-best-bets-fight-time-december-23-2023

I was a bit dissapointed as I was thinking the Wilder vs AJ fight would happen, but this looks like the end of it, I mean it's not gonna happen and we might see Parker vs AJ?
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December 24, 2023, 06:43:48 AM

I don't think that Inoue can go as high as welterweight, he did admit that if I'm not mistaken. There's only one boxer, the legendary Manny Pacquaio who was able to climb 8 divisions and become a champion.

Inoue said, maybe 126 lbs or even 130 lbs will be enough for him.

And that's why there were talks of him and Tank Davis, not Crawford. But maybe he could accomplished it at 126 lbs and make him a 3x unified champion and make history but we will see. We all know that the higher the weight class, the harder the competition.

Now! that I see what Naoya Inoue is capable of doing I would like to see him get Unified in what Division he is capable of as this is the 1st time we are witnessing history he is surely creating history in those fights he has, and for sure even though he is not capable of getting into the 8 division like Manny Pacquiao yet, I think in the future we might see when he reach the point he has the same shape as Manny Pacquiao because right now he can surely not because it will require time to do that, but still he is making history in what he is doing now,



Day of Reckoning matches and what happened This is a big boxing event indeed and many well-known people have watched these fights this is the results of some of the fights

Anthony Joshua VS Otto Wallin


We could clearly see that Anthony Joshua was really composed in winning this fight he was just in the middle and pressuring Otto Wallin, and AJ exchanged punches whenever Wallin threw a punch Anthony Joshua will go and take that opportunity and in the 5th round it was a perfect execution that AJ has taken against Otto Wallin, but he wasn't too aggressive with and wobble in that 5th round, and that cut that Wallin has gives the Doctor the decision that the fight is over, it was an easy fight for Anthony Joshua,

Joseph Parker VS Deontay Wilder


In this fight, I really thought that Deontay Wilder would be winning, but he didn't let out punches because Wilder was so composed that he wasn't punching much, for sure Deontay Wilder was so focused on getting that knockout that he was wasting time while Joseph Parker is just letting out his punches and for sure the striking output was for Joseph Parker as Wilder is not himself,

Dmitry Bivol VS Lyndon Arthur


You can see the speed, pace, and strike output of Dmitry Bivol you can clearly see the difference when it comes to those aspects, Lyndon Arthur is not yet ready, but even though Dmitry Bivol landed so many punches against  Lyndon Arthur it was not enough to finish Lyndon Arthur in an instant as Dmitry Bivol has some issue with his knocking power but he manages to knocking down Arthur once it was a clear Onslaught

Daniel Dubois VS Jarrell Miller


Jarrell Big Baby Miller was so huge I didn't realize how large he was until he was fighting inside the ring and I thought that every punch of Daniel Dubois didn't have any effect at all, but Daniel Dubois is just relentless with his punches and he was never backing down from his strikes and with this fight Baby Miller is just durable and Daniel Dubois just got the problem of knocking him down if not for the referee stoppage that he will win this fight,
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December 24, 2023, 05:22:11 AM
So while we are thinking that this is an easy fight for Inoue, his camp doesn't think that way.

From this article publish by philstar global, this is what Inoue has said during an interview.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/12/21/2320508/inoue-admits-feeling-scared-tapales-showdown-nears
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“What scares me the most is people around me think it will be an easy fight,” the soft-spoken pound-for-pound star said during a media workout the other day in Japan.

Inoue and his camp just recognizes the danger Tapales brings to that table that they admitted bringing in sparring partners from abroad who have differing styles so they would be ready for anything come fight night.

Inoue showed respet to the ability of his fellow champion, and that's the kind of attitude I like on a boxer as it will reflect on his work ethic. Now, with this humble words from him, it's hard not to think that he'll beat Tapales easily.

It's a good attitude on Inoue's part to show this humble side, but the numbers are showing great favoritism, with odds of 1.05 in his favor, and with odds of 8.60 if Tapales wins, I highly doubt that Tapales will look at these words from Inoue with some optimism, on the contrary, I could even think that Inoue would be feeling sorry for him and would increase his anger, I also highly doubt that the Tapales team does not follow the difference in skills between their fighter and Inoue, unfortunately in boxing in fights where there is a very large difference in odds between the favorite and the unlucky one, it is difficult to see any comeback with an unexpected result in which the unlucky player manages to win the fight

I believe that if there was a way to see in casinos how many people bet on Inoue to win this fight and how many people bet on Tapales to win this fight, we would see that most people must have bet on Inoue even with the very low odds, I'm wondering how many people must have taken the risk of betting on Tapales' victory, with this odds of 8.60 for him to win, it must be becoming a temptation for those people who are dedicated to only placing bets on the unlucky ones. Whatever the case, in my opinion he will come out victorious in this fight, I see the difference between these two fights being huge.
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December 24, 2023, 04:45:42 AM
Bivol also have a fantastic performance, looking sharp as ever. Hope he will meet Canelo at 168 without that rehydration clause.

Bivol is one of the top fighters in the world. The one thing he lacks is a killer instinct. He should not be going the distance with somebody like Lyndon Arthur. 

I would rather see him fight Beterbiev instead of Canelo. Beterbiev might not have much time left in the sport. It is best to make that fight now before Beterbiev gets even older or has another setback due to injury or health issues.
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December 24, 2023, 01:25:55 AM
^^ Whoever organizes that "Day of Reckoning" event must be so rich, i mean that is like an All-Star event in basketball.

Yeah, Joshua's confidence is back with that TKO win, there are rumors that he will be fighting Filip Hrgovic next, must be a good one also and he is successful on that hurdle, "The Battle of Britain" should be next. I'm confident that Fury will be successful in unifying the belts against a smaller Usyk.

Bivol also have a fantastic performance, looking sharp as ever. Hope he will meet Canelo at 168 without that rehydration clause.
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December 24, 2023, 12:08:07 AM
Did you enjoy the stacked event today? Here are the results of The Day of Reckoning from the Kingdom Arena in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

In the main event, Otto Wallin was stopped by Anthony Joshua after five rounds. The self confidence of Joshua is back, and he was there to seek and destroy.

In a shocker, Joseph Parker subjugates Deontay Wilder by winning a twelve round decision. Parker was consistent in keeping Wilder under control. Wilder tried to fight back in the final rounds, but it was Parker with the upper hand.

Dmitry Bivol, Daniel Dubois, Agit Kabayel, Jai Opetaia, Filip Hrgovic, and Frank Sanchez also won their matches. The Day of Reckoning was a special occasion, and we anticipate more occasions like this.
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December 23, 2023, 04:49:00 PM
So while we are thinking that this is an easy fight for Inoue, his camp doesn't think that way.

From this article publish by philstar global, this is what Inoue has said during an interview.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/12/21/2320508/inoue-admits-feeling-scared-tapales-showdown-nears
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“What scares me the most is people around me think it will be an easy fight,” the soft-spoken pound-for-pound star said during a media workout the other day in Japan.

Inoue and his camp just recognizes the danger Tapales brings to that table that they admitted bringing in sparring partners from abroad who have differing styles so they would be ready for anything come fight night.

Inoue showed respet to the ability of his fellow champion, and that's the kind of attitude I like on a boxer as it will reflect on his work ethic. Now, with this humble words from him, it's hard not to think that he'll beat Tapales easily.

Japanese fighters are known for always being polite and respectful. Inoue isn't going to downplay or trash talk his opponent. Even if he won't admit it publicly, Inoue is well aware of his superior abilities. Tapales isn't a bad fighter by any means but Inoue is a generational talent and anything short of a dominant victory will be considered a disappointment. I am sure that Crawford beating him in becoming undisputed twice will motivate him to try and get a spectacular finish so that he can be considered the pound for pound king.

Indeed, Japanese in general aren't trash-talkers and are polite. Of the countless Japanese world champions in this sport, I can only remember one who is arrogant and that is the eldest of the Kameda brothers.

If Inoue schools Tapales and then knocks him out. Will he replace Crawford becomes again the pound-for-pound king? Tapales could be out of Spence's level although the guy is a 2 division champion. But it's a great achievement if Inoue wins, only the second to become a 2-division undisputed champion in the 4-belt era. And then by early next year, we have Oleksandr Usyk also trying to become a 2-division undisputed champion as well and also has a serious case to become the new pound-for-pound king.

True, Japanese have that discipline that's why they don't talk trash against their opponents, and on the contrary are very respectful. I think if Inoue wins here then it's going to be a tough call as to who will be the pound for pound or even fighter of the year.

Crawford already did it, at 140 and 147 lbs and Inoue will be the second at 118 and 122 lbs to accomplished and unify belts in 2 divisions.

So that is a huge accomplishment for the Japanese and I think he will set the record in Asia (same with Inoue if he wins).


Inoue will likely go up and in time, if Bud is still there, Inoue will challenge him. It is a climb for Inoue but i think he will slow down when he reaches 135, this is where the exciting matches happen and he could probably fight at least 2-3 times a year if those on top are not going to duck him.

a 30-year-old crawford vs Inoue would have been one of the fights that would sell and i think i will still put my money on Inoue.

I don't think that Inoue can go as high as welterweight, he did admit that if I'm not mistaken. There's only one boxer, the legendary Manny Pacquaio who was able to climb 8 divisions and become a champion.

Inoue said, maybe 126 lbs or even 130 lbs will be enough for him.

And that's why there were talks of him and Tank Davis, not Crawford. But maybe he could accomplished it at 126 lbs and make him a 3x unified champion and make history but we will see. We all know that the higher the weight class, the harder the competition.
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December 23, 2023, 04:28:51 PM
So while we are thinking that this is an easy fight for Inoue, his camp doesn't think that way.

From this article publish by philstar global, this is what Inoue has said during an interview.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/12/21/2320508/inoue-admits-feeling-scared-tapales-showdown-nears
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“What scares me the most is people around me think it will be an easy fight,” the soft-spoken pound-for-pound star said during a media workout the other day in Japan.

Inoue and his camp just recognizes the danger Tapales brings to that table that they admitted bringing in sparring partners from abroad who have differing styles so they would be ready for anything come fight night.

Inoue showed respet to the ability of his fellow champion, and that's the kind of attitude I like on a boxer as it will reflect on his work ethic. Now, with this humble words from him, it's hard not to think that he'll beat Tapales easily.

Japanese fighters are known for always being polite and respectful. Inoue isn't going to downplay or trash talk his opponent. Even if he won't admit it publicly, Inoue is well aware of his superior abilities. Tapales isn't a bad fighter by any means but Inoue is a generational talent and anything short of a dominant victory will be considered a disappointment. I am sure that Crawford beating him in becoming undisputed twice will motivate him to try and get a spectacular finish so that he can be considered the pound for pound king.

Indeed, Japanese in general aren't trash-talkers and are polite. Of the countless Japanese world champions in this sport, I can only remember one who is arrogant and that is the eldest of the Kameda brothers.

If Inoue schools Tapales and then knocks him out. Will he replace Crawford becomes again the pound-for-pound king? Tapales could be out of Spence's level although the guy is a 2 division champion. But it's a great achievement if Inoue wins, only the second to become a 2-division undisputed champion in the 4-belt era. And then by early next year, we have Oleksandr Usyk also trying to become a 2-division undisputed champion as well and also has a serious case to become the new pound-for-pound king.

True, Japanese have that discipline that's why they don't talk trash against their opponents, and on the contrary are very respectful. I think if Inoue wins here then it's going to be a tough call as to who will be the pound for pound or even fighter of the year.

Crawford already did it, at 140 and 147 lbs and Inoue will be the second at 118 and 122 lbs to accomplished and unify belts in 2 divisions.

So that is a huge accomplishment for the Japanese and I think he will set the record in Asia (same with Inoue if he wins).

Yes and you cannot deny the great power that Inopue has in this fight, in fact with respect to Tapalesm, it is not that I am a dissective person, but that will be something that Inoue has to show off, because this is the moment to give us the Christmas gift for us who are Inoue's fans without a doubt, for me Inoue represents what a boxer should be, he is a respectful person, he only dedicates himself to his sports, he is the best at it and has a lot to show, of course In fact, I think that his success has always been because he does not leave a single day to rest, he is always working his body and has a lot to show, in this order of ideas things can be very good when they try to do things well, for That's when something like this fight is done, the bets can be very much in his favor, I'm not saying that Tapales is easy, because he is a very good boxer, with great abilities, but to be at the level of an Inoue it is difficult, Noya has always shown that this sport makes it look easy, but that's how he is, he has the talent.

Furthermore, not only is it all there in the talent, it is also in the work he has for this, he always shows that he can do things well even as things are, be it in Japan or in any other country, he always shows that he is the best, I think his success is also because his training is getting harder and harder, and since that is what keeps him in shape, I would like Inoue to reach the heavyweight category, so that he can crown himself with everything, because he is a boxer who has the capabilities to do it and this can cause a lot of commotion, a Japanese being heavyweight champion, uff is a great achievement, of course I'm speculating, I don't know what the goals and expectations of the Japanese are, but I think it's going on a very good path, so far he has gained many fans and many use Inoue as a great motivation in boxing, I would like to see him become much bigger than he is now.

BoxingScene.com's Television Pick of The Week - December 23



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On December 13, 2022, 30-year old Naoya Inoue (25-0, 22 KO) became the first undisputed bantamweight champion in more than fifty years. The junior featherweight division might have briefly been a thing in the 1920s, but its real incarnation starts in 1976. There has never been an undisputed champion. A roster of championship greats that includes Wilfredo Gomez, Jeff Fenech Marco Antonio Barrera, Erik Morales, and Manny Pacquiao and yet no one has ever assembled all the major belts. It didn’t happen when there were two, three, or four. Inoue has a chance to make that history but 31-year old Marlon Tapales (37-3, 19 KO) stands in the way.

Tapales enters off the best win of his career, a rousing upset earlier this year of Murodjon Akhmadaliev. Inoue has won titles in four weight classes. Tapales has won them in two, including a brief title stint at bantamweight. Inoue is heavily favored to win but Tapales is tough, has quick hands, and fighters expected to lose often fight like they have nothing to lose along the way. Can Inoue add to what is becoming a historically great career in what could soon be a decade of dominance?     

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/boxingscene-television-pick-week-december-23--180214
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December 23, 2023, 03:08:54 PM
So while we are thinking that this is an easy fight for Inoue, his camp doesn't think that way.

From this article publish by philstar global, this is what Inoue has said during an interview.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/12/21/2320508/inoue-admits-feeling-scared-tapales-showdown-nears
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“What scares me the most is people around me think it will be an easy fight,” the soft-spoken pound-for-pound star said during a media workout the other day in Japan.

Inoue and his camp just recognizes the danger Tapales brings to that table that they admitted bringing in sparring partners from abroad who have differing styles so they would be ready for anything come fight night.

Inoue showed respet to the ability of his fellow champion, and that's the kind of attitude I like on a boxer as it will reflect on his work ethic. Now, with this humble words from him, it's hard not to think that he'll beat Tapales easily.

Japanese fighters are known for always being polite and respectful. Inoue isn't going to downplay or trash talk his opponent. Even if he won't admit it publicly, Inoue is well aware of his superior abilities. Tapales isn't a bad fighter by any means but Inoue is a generational talent and anything short of a dominant victory will be considered a disappointment. I am sure that Crawford beating him in becoming undisputed twice will motivate him to try and get a spectacular finish so that he can be considered the pound for pound king.

Indeed, Japanese in general aren't trash-talkers and are polite. Of the countless Japanese world champions in this sport, I can only remember one who is arrogant and that is the eldest of the Kameda brothers.

If Inoue schools Tapales and then knocks him out. Will he replace Crawford becomes again the pound-for-pound king? Tapales could be out of Spence's level although the guy is a 2 division champion. But it's a great achievement if Inoue wins, only the second to become a 2-division undisputed champion in the 4-belt era. And then by early next year, we have Oleksandr Usyk also trying to become a 2-division undisputed champion as well and also has a serious case to become the new pound-for-pound king.

True, Japanese have that discipline that's why they don't talk trash against their opponents, and on the contrary are very respectful. I think if Inoue wins here then it's going to be a tough call as to who will be the pound for pound or even fighter of the year.

Crawford already did it, at 140 and 147 lbs and Inoue will be the second at 118 and 122 lbs to accomplished and unify belts in 2 divisions.

So that is a huge accomplishment for the Japanese and I think he will set the record in Asia (same with Inoue if he wins).


Inoue will likely go up and in time, if Bud is still there, Inoue will challenge him. It is a climb for Inoue but i think he will slow down when he reaches 135, this is where the exciting matches happen and he could probably fight at least 2-3 times a year if those on top are not going to duck him.

a 30-year-old crawford vs Inoue would have been one of the fights that would sell and i think i will still put my money on Inoue.
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Deontay Wilder vs Joseph Parker.
This is fight that interests me and of course this fight will bring together the knockout artist Wilder and Joseph Parker, both of these fighters are former world champions and in their weight classes both had quite high hype in the past few years.
And Wilder has been absent from fighting since losing the WBC title because he was defeated by Tyson Fury.
But before he was absent, Wilder had fought and won, after that he trained harder and really wanted to return to the ring to be able to fight for the championship title.
In this fight, Wilder also stated that he was confident that he could finish the fight before 12th round because he would knock Parker out, this confidence really made everyone interested in him and he was still seen as fighter with winning mentality.

There is one thing that Wilder really wants, namely to be in the ring against Francis Ngannou and there have been many rumors about this fight since last month.
Maybe Wilder also wants to fight Fury again to be able to take back the WBC title he lost from his hands.

Don't forget about Dmitry Bivol in the past he was consecutively knocking his opponent and there were no decision wins back then but in recent fights, he somehow managed to be more technical with his technique and movement he just needs to be safe and sure and that is to just win a fight for sure Dmitry Bivol still is undefeated making him a great fighter aswell, for me I think this is a very juicy event and the last 3 fights will be a great watch for the boxing fans that is for sure,

The event is already starting 3 fights have already started, 1st fight was a KO win for Frank Sanchez, 2nd win was for Filip Hrgovic and his opponent didn't want to fight any more that have led to a KO/TKO win for Filip Hrgovic, and the 3rd fight was a win for Jai Opetaia with an Overhand left,


And there are gamblers who can take that huge risk knowing that the chance of winning is really high, though an upset can take place, and we can't remove that, as even how great the fighter was but with a single lucky solid punch that throws by the opposing fighter and landed to a critical part of heavy favorite, that can be an upset to the bettor and to the fighter itself.

It's a decision that only a gambler can take, taking a big risk on the underdog or place huge amount of money on the heavy favorite with lesser odds. It will go to depend on how you take as a gambler.

An example of an underdog fight that I bet on was the fight between Zhilei Zhang and Joe Joyce where Joe Joyce was the favorite because Zhang was picked by Joe Joyce, so many are speculating how Joe Joyce would beat up Zhilei Zhang but the fight was a big upset for Joe Joyce as Zhilei Zhang is faster and more technical than Joe Joyce so instead of a win for Joe Joyce it was an upset and Zhilei Zhang was now more popular on their 2nd match that now Zhilei Zhang was now the favorite to win, it was a big win for me in taking the underdog Zhilei Zhang and in that time I am risking my bet on Zhang for sure,

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December 22, 2023, 07:08:26 AM
So while we are thinking that this is an easy fight for Inoue, his camp doesn't think that way.

From this article publish by philstar global, this is what Inoue has said during an interview.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/12/21/2320508/inoue-admits-feeling-scared-tapales-showdown-nears
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“What scares me the most is people around me think it will be an easy fight,” the soft-spoken pound-for-pound star said during a media workout the other day in Japan.

Inoue and his camp just recognizes the danger Tapales brings to that table that they admitted bringing in sparring partners from abroad who have differing styles so they would be ready for anything come fight night.

Inoue showed respet to the ability of his fellow champion, and that's the kind of attitude I like on a boxer as it will reflect on his work ethic. Now, with this humble words from him, it's hard not to think that he'll beat Tapales easily.

Japanese fighters are known for always being polite and respectful. Inoue isn't going to downplay or trash talk his opponent. Even if he won't admit it publicly, Inoue is well aware of his superior abilities. Tapales isn't a bad fighter by any means but Inoue is a generational talent and anything short of a dominant victory will be considered a disappointment. I am sure that Crawford beating him in becoming undisputed twice will motivate him to try and get a spectacular finish so that he can be considered the pound for pound king.

Indeed, Japanese in general aren't trash-talkers and are polite. Of the countless Japanese world champions in this sport, I can only remember one who is arrogant and that is the eldest of the Kameda brothers.

If Inoue schools Tapales and then knocks him out. Will he replace Crawford becomes again the pound-for-pound king? Tapales could be out of Spence's level although the guy is a 2 division champion. But it's a great achievement if Inoue wins, only the second to become a 2-division undisputed champion in the 4-belt era. And then by early next year, we have Oleksandr Usyk also trying to become a 2-division undisputed champion as well and also has a serious case to become the new pound-for-pound king.

True, Japanese have that discipline that's why they don't talk trash against their opponents, and on the contrary are very respectful. I think if Inoue wins here then it's going to be a tough call as to who will be the pound for pound or even fighter of the year.

Crawford already did it, at 140 and 147 lbs and Inoue will be the second at 118 and 122 lbs to accomplished and unify belts in 2 divisions.

So that is a huge accomplishment for the Japanese and I think he will set the record in Asia (same with Inoue if he wins).
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December 22, 2023, 07:03:39 AM

But for the supporters of Tapales, the ML is already juicy to them. Tapales pulling an upset will be the biggest shock in boxing to happen this year.

They can just stick with the Moneyline. I'm using a different bookie than what was posted, Tapales to win has a 8.60 ML, so that's really attractive.

Actually I haven't place my bet yet but I like to play around with the markets that are already available.
Based on what I see upon checking, looks like the range per rounds aren't available yet. I'm waiting for that one as it's where I can see some very attractive odds.

Currently, this is the only odds that I'm quite attracted.

Asian total - under 5.5 with 2.30 odds




With that odds, seems decent though it can be fulfil if Tapales will try to exchange punches in early rounds but if Tapales will use hi tactics which he's more on trying to outscored is opponents, he may exceed with that rounds and maybe survive up to the end of 12 rounds, just speculating though, as we don't know if what preparation and how he will esecute his strategy.

Maybe waiting for more option, it may be provided during the live event, let see if what will going to come up from most bookies.

Tapales doesn't have the quickness to hit Inoue and score consistently, so his best chance here is to counter punch Inoue and be more aggressive in the fight so he will not feel inferior against the beast.

And with that to happen, I'm expecting that the fight will end early, either Inoue or Tapales will be KO, as long as it will fall within the first to fifth rounds, that's money. This is just my personal perception on the fight though, anything could happen, but I studied all the fights of Inoue, it ends up mostly in KO. In case Inoue will dictate the fight and Tapales will refuse to engage once he felt the power of Inoue, then there's a chance that the under 5.5 rounds will lose.

I agree to that, if Tapales will use that as also for me his only chance to win it might ended up in this early rounds, he doesn't have that quickness and that killing punches as per his previous fights, though with that long preparation he might study all the fights of Inoue and maybe he will take that chance.

I respect your position and the potential is good, more on how both fighters will throw their strategy and execute from one another.

But can Tapales become aggressive in this match? Inoue almost knocked out all he had fought before and his quickness is the main asset to hitting them. Tapales has to endure the pain so he can maintain his aggressiveness and release his counter punches every time Inoue throws a punch.

I am almost certain to place bets on an Inoue by knockout in each round starting from round four until round nine. Inoue is not taking Tapales lightly and he will only make a limited attack in the early round. I am placing 6 bets in half of the match so big chance of hitting the round Inoue wins. With the odds of 10x to 13.5x each round, I have a clean 4x to 7.5x take home if I am lucky to win.
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December 22, 2023, 03:55:02 AM
So while we are thinking that this is an easy fight for Inoue, his camp doesn't think that way.

From this article publish by philstar global, this is what Inoue has said during an interview.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/12/21/2320508/inoue-admits-feeling-scared-tapales-showdown-nears
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“What scares me the most is people around me think it will be an easy fight,” the soft-spoken pound-for-pound star said during a media workout the other day in Japan.

Inoue and his camp just recognizes the danger Tapales brings to that table that they admitted bringing in sparring partners from abroad who have differing styles so they would be ready for anything come fight night.

Inoue showed respet to the ability of his fellow champion, and that's the kind of attitude I like on a boxer as it will reflect on his work ethic. Now, with this humble words from him, it's hard not to think that he'll beat Tapales easily.

Japanese fighters are known for always being polite and respectful. Inoue isn't going to downplay or trash talk his opponent. Even if he won't admit it publicly, Inoue is well aware of his superior abilities. Tapales isn't a bad fighter by any means but Inoue is a generational talent and anything short of a dominant victory will be considered a disappointment. I am sure that Crawford beating him in becoming undisputed twice will motivate him to try and get a spectacular finish so that he can be considered the pound for pound king.

Indeed, Japanese in general aren't trash-talkers and are polite. Of the countless Japanese world champions in this sport, I can only remember one who is arrogant and that is the eldest of the Kameda brothers.

If Inoue schools Tapales and then knocks him out. Will he replace Crawford becomes again the pound-for-pound king? Tapales could be out of Spence's level although the guy is a 2 division champion. But it's a great achievement if Inoue wins, only the second to become a 2-division undisputed champion in the 4-belt era. And then by early next year, we have Oleksandr Usyk also trying to become a 2-division undisputed champion as well and also has a serious case to become the new pound-for-pound king.
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December 22, 2023, 02:59:41 AM

But for the supporters of Tapales, the ML is already juicy to them. Tapales pulling an upset will be the biggest shock in boxing to happen this year.

They can just stick with the Moneyline. I'm using a different bookie than what was posted, Tapales to win has a 8.60 ML, so that's really attractive.

Actually I haven't place my bet yet but I like to play around with the markets that are already available.
Based on what I see upon checking, looks like the range per rounds aren't available yet. I'm waiting for that one as it's where I can see some very attractive odds.

Currently, this is the only odds that I'm quite attracted.

Asian total - under 5.5 with 2.30 odds




With that odds, seems decent though it can be fulfil if Tapales will try to exchange punches in early rounds but if Tapales will use hi tactics which he's more on trying to outscored is opponents, he may exceed with that rounds and maybe survive up to the end of 12 rounds, just speculating though, as we don't know if what preparation and how he will esecute his strategy.

Maybe waiting for more option, it may be provided during the live event, let see if what will going to come up from most bookies.

Tapales doesn't have the quickness to hit Inoue and score consistently, so his best chance here is to counter punch Inoue and be more aggressive in the fight so he will not feel inferior against the beast.

And with that to happen, I'm expecting that the fight will end early, either Inoue or Tapales will be KO, as long as it will fall within the first to fifth rounds, that's money. This is just my personal perception on the fight though, anything could happen, but I studied all the fights of Inoue, it ends up mostly in KO. In case Inoue will dictate the fight and Tapales will refuse to engage once he felt the power of Inoue, then there's a chance that the under 5.5 rounds will lose.

I agree to that, if Tapales will use that as also for me his only chance to win it might ended up in this early rounds, he doesn't have that quickness and that killing punches as per his previous fights, though with that long preparation he might study all the fights of Inoue and maybe he will take that chance.

I respect your position and the potential is good, more on how both fighters will throw their strategy and execute from one another.
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December 22, 2023, 12:39:28 AM
So while we are thinking that this is an easy fight for Inoue, his camp doesn't think that way.

From this article publish by philstar global, this is what Inoue has said during an interview.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/12/21/2320508/inoue-admits-feeling-scared-tapales-showdown-nears
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“What scares me the most is people around me think it will be an easy fight,” the soft-spoken pound-for-pound star said during a media workout the other day in Japan.

Inoue and his camp just recognizes the danger Tapales brings to that table that they admitted bringing in sparring partners from abroad who have differing styles so they would be ready for anything come fight night.

Inoue showed respet to the ability of his fellow champion, and that's the kind of attitude I like on a boxer as it will reflect on his work ethic. Now, with this humble words from him, it's hard not to think that he'll beat Tapales easily.

Japanese fighters are known for always being polite and respectful. Inoue isn't going to downplay or trash talk his opponent. Even if he won't admit it publicly, Inoue is well aware of his superior abilities. Tapales isn't a bad fighter by any means but Inoue is a generational talent and anything short of a dominant victory will be considered a disappointment. I am sure that Crawford beating him in becoming undisputed twice will motivate him to try and get a spectacular finish so that he can be considered the pound for pound king.
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December 21, 2023, 10:46:57 PM

But for the supporters of Tapales, the ML is already juicy to them. Tapales pulling an upset will be the biggest shock in boxing to happen this year.

They can just stick with the Moneyline. I'm using a different bookie than what was posted, Tapales to win has a 8.60 ML, so that's really attractive.

Actually I haven't place my bet yet but I like to play around with the markets that are already available.
Based on what I see upon checking, looks like the range per rounds aren't available yet. I'm waiting for that one as it's where I can see some very attractive odds.

Currently, this is the only odds that I'm quite attracted.

Asian total - under 5.5 with 2.30 odds




With that odds, seems decent though it can be fulfil if Tapales will try to exchange punches in early rounds but if Tapales will use hi tactics which he's more on trying to outscored is opponents, he may exceed with that rounds and maybe survive up to the end of 12 rounds, just speculating though, as we don't know if what preparation and how he will esecute his strategy.

Maybe waiting for more option, it may be provided during the live event, let see if what will going to come up from most bookies.

Tapales doesn't have the quickness to hit Inoue and score consistently, so his best chance here is to counter punch Inoue and be more aggressive in the fight so he will not feel inferior against the beast.

And with that to happen, I'm expecting that the fight will end early, either Inoue or Tapales will be KO, as long as it will fall within the first to fifth rounds, that's money. This is just my personal perception on the fight though, anything could happen, but I studied all the fights of Inoue, it ends up mostly in KO. In case Inoue will dictate the fight and Tapales will refuse to engage once he felt the power of Inoue, then there's a chance that the under 5.5 rounds will lose.
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December 21, 2023, 10:28:48 PM
So while we are thinking that this is an easy fight for Inoue, his camp doesn't think that way.

From this article publish by philstar global, this is what Inoue has said during an interview.
https://www.philstar.com/sports/2023/12/21/2320508/inoue-admits-feeling-scared-tapales-showdown-nears
Quote
“What scares me the most is people around me think it will be an easy fight,” the soft-spoken pound-for-pound star said during a media workout the other day in Japan.

Inoue and his camp just recognizes the danger Tapales brings to that table that they admitted bringing in sparring partners from abroad who have differing styles so they would be ready for anything come fight night.

Inoue showed respet to the ability of his fellow champion, and that's the kind of attitude I like on a boxer as it will reflect on his work ethic. Now, with this humble words from him, it's hard not to think that he'll beat Tapales easily.
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December 21, 2023, 07:57:28 PM

But for the supporters of Tapales, the ML is already juicy to them. Tapales pulling an upset will be the biggest shock in boxing to happen this year.

They can just stick with the Moneyline. I'm using a different bookie than what was posted, Tapales to win has a 8.60 ML, so that's really attractive.

Actually I haven't place my bet yet but I like to play around with the markets that are already available.
Based on what I see upon checking, looks like the range per rounds aren't available yet. I'm waiting for that one as it's where I can see some very attractive odds.

Currently, this is the only odds that I'm quite attracted.

Asian total - under 5.5 with 2.30 odds




With that odds, seems decent though it can be fulfil if Tapales will try to exchange punches in early rounds but if Tapales will use hi tactics which he's more on trying to outscored is opponents, he may exceed with that rounds and maybe survive up to the end of 12 rounds, just speculating though, as we don't know if what preparation and how he will esecute his strategy.

Maybe waiting for more option, it may be provided during the live event, let see if what will going to come up from most bookies.
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