Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 213. (Read 31605 times)

Yes, all that month of preparation and training while studying Broner's movements in the ring was all wasted because Broner suddenly backed out from the fight and Lipinets was inserted to be the boxer to fight against Omar. So of course, that became a huge factore why Omar defeated because he didn't expected that and he didn't manage to watch Lipinets clips. If only Broner did fight, I'm quite sure that Omar has won. What do you think?

Yup, we can't really confirm that as the fight didn't happen in the first place and we can only do some speculations if the fight did happen, but I still believe that the result will be much different if Ancajas fight Ioka that time. I mean, Ancajas's chances to win against Ioka was decent but that same chances drastically fell down after that sudden replacement because Ancaja's has only had a little time left to prepare as the fight is already approaching near.

That is if Figueroa can still have some fights with decent money on the line because he should know that he's already an old story in the industry just like Broner. The way I see it, their career is just waiting to be called on some fights just to be defeated (cherry-picked) as it's a natural thing these days to get the younger boxers some tune  up after a long inactivity or some issues. Other than that, there's almost no way that Figueroa and Broner can call some fights to make money.

We can't know that for sure because aside from the fact that Ancajas was struggling to catch the required weight, his trainings were originally made for Ioka and the team was studying the Japanese boxer's move for quite some time to help Ancajas win the fight but that didn't happen because of Ioka's sudden decision. Not sure though why Ioka backed out, does anybody here know why?

We knew boxing politics is common taking away huge and fan-friendly fights from its fans. Earlier this year we heard both light-heavyweight champions Artur Beterbiev (18-0-18 KOs) and Dmitry Bivol (20-0-11 KOs) wanting to duke it out for the undisputed belts but it hasn't materialized due to tv networks' differences. IBF, WBC, WBO, and lineal champion Beterbiev is promoted by Bob Arums Top Rank with ESPN as its network while WBA champion Bivol might have remained under Eddie Hearn's Matchroom with its DAZN network.

Last weekend in the undercard of the Usyk-Joshua rematch was a light-heavyweight WBC eliminator. Former lineal super middleweight champion Callum Smith (29-1-21 KOs) won and is now the WBC mandatory challenger. But Top Rank's Artur Beterbiev holds the 3 belts in the division including the WBC while Callum, the same with Bivol is with Eddie Hearn and DAZN. How can Callum, Beterbiev, and the WBC enforce this fight? Or will the WBC issue an interim belt for Callum? Or will Arum persuade Beterbiev to vacate his WBC belt? The most interesting part which I hope the WBC is not scared to do is to call for a purse bid. The biggest money on the table promotes and uses its partnered network.

We knew DAZN has the deepest pocket in boxing right now. But we also knew how Bob Arum and Frank Warren recently defeated Eddie Hearn during a purse bid for the rights of Tyson Fury - Dillian Whyte fight.   

It's all speculation though, so 50/50. But if you look at some fights that have their opponent replaced, there are fights that the replacement fighter won or not. Not sure what is the statistics though or if there is one in the internet.

Nevertheless for Jerwin and his camp, they should treat it as a learning experience, a learning curve that they need to overcome right now if Jerwin wanted to became a world champion again and chase more like Ioka in the future.

i can agree with you here. it doesn't matter who the opponent is, as long as he is prepared for the fight, he can win. because a legend in the making can accept any opponent that will challenge his belt no matter the circumstances are presented to him. so if their camp was saying he was in no shape, then he really was, as seen from the match also. now that he tasted defeat, it will be his motivation to redeem himself.

Omar confirmed that he will be retiring from boxing,


https://www.boxingscene.com/figueroa-ive-doing-this-27-years-my-body-finally-said-enough--168526

At least he realizes that he can't pull the trigger anymore and that his body is telling him to not fight anymore. He just had a daughter born to that's good if he will just enjoy his life with his family and hopefully he had save enough money to live a good life. And he mentioned about his mental issues as well, (bipolar) and he was able to overcome it.

Even if there's no sudden replacement, Jerwin Ancajas might probably still lose that supposed original fight.

The reason is very clear and it was stated by his team. Ancajas is not in good shape because of his hard training to catch the required weight. That resulted in him not performing on his usual and Ioka might take that as an advantage.

As I read on some reports, that's the focus now of Ancajas camp as they are really preparing seriously to get a win on a rematch against Martinez.

And that is why Figueroa was really mad at Broner for pulling out at the last minutes because his preparations have been ruined. Anyhow, both Figueroa and Broner are past their primes to either way it's going to be a boring fight for boxing fans. This is Figueroa's last fight probably or if he continues to fight, he will be just the fighting for the money or just a stepping stone for young fighters. for Broner, not sure if he has contract or something with PBC or Showtime, but we might see the same, just 1 or 2 fights for him assuming he can get over his mental issues and then he is done with boxing.

Yup, Lipinets has the advantage needed to win and defeat Omar because he have already trained for this fight in about weeks or months even before he was called to sub for Broner while on the other hand, the latter is still blinded and was preparing for Broner because he and his camp didn't expected that Broner would withdraw last minute.

The same situation with Ancajas because he originally prepared for a title defense fight against Kazuto Ioka but was replaced last minute by Fernando Martinez and Ancajas ultimately lost the title he held for quite a long time. These instances can't be predicted because the original boxer wanted to participate in the fight but an issue surfaced later on which resulted in a need for a substitute just like this time.

Zhilei Zhang Gas out in the end, and he can not keep up anymore, while Filip Hrgovic, is much patient in landing his punches, but surely even though Zhang was almost at his 40 years his punching power is superb, knocking Hrgovic on the early rounds, but surely it was not enough because Zhilei Zhang has gas out in the near end of the rounds he keeps on gasping for air and even running to the corner when the time ends,
 
Right now on the victory of Oleksandr Usyk against Anthony Joshua, Osyk now wants a fight agaisnt Tyson Fury if Fury wants a match against him, I think that will be one remarkable fight, but against Tyson Fury I would surely go with Fury because of his strength and power, he could eventually Knock Usyk fast,

Next upcoming event on boxing that I think many are anticipating are

Sept 4: Los Angeles Andy Ruiz Jr. VS Luis Ortiz

Sept 17: Las Vegas  Canelo Alvarez vs. Gennadiy Golovkin

Oct. 15: Melbourne, Australia Devin Haney vs. George Kambosos Jr.

Oct. 15: Brooklyn Deontay Wilder vs. Robert Helenius

All information was from ESPN

I think it's not surprising at all because the odds favor Lipinets. And if I'm not mistaken, Lipinets is also preparing a fight on the next couple of weeks. So he is already in shape even before being tap as a replacement for AB.

Also, as @lionheart78 has pointed out, sometimes this replacement fighters can really gave big problems on the opposing side because they are not prepared for it.

@DU18 mentioned LIpinets lost to Ennis, Jarod is one of the best prospects in 140-147 lbs.

Not gonna lie, Zhang hit a lot of good punches on Hrgovic during this bout. The problem is, Hrgovic refused to give up and fought until the end. Hrgovic may not have scored a lot of power punches during the bout, but he sure as hell landed a lot of them in Zhang's body. Those jabs and soft punches may have saved Hrgovic on this match up. If only those punches thrown by Zhang had more power in them..

No one expected indeed if Sergey Lipinets could win the fight, no better than from Broner made me doubt if Sergey Lipinets would be able to throw Omar to the floor, especially when I saw the boxing history of Sergey Lipinets who just lost to Jaron Ennis in 2021 but he was able to show great fight yesterday, what you said seems to be true, because while during Omar focused more on anticipating the fighting style and also the weaknesses of Broner, but in the end what he learned before the fight started was in vain after Broner retreated and I think every fighter has different fighting styles and weaknesses as well as Broner and Sergey Lipinets.

The result of the Usyk vs. Joshua 2: Rage on the Red Sea

Oleksandr Usyk VS Anthony Joshua ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN

Anthony Joshua is using his height and reaches in punishing Usyk, but that up jab from Usyk has surprised Joshua so much, Anthony Joshua might be pushing with a different style this time but it was not enough because Oleksandr Usyk is a calculating fighter, but Anthony Joshua is looking for a knockout win but Usyk is in a safer approached, you can see that with head movement Usyk is always using it, while Joshua doesn't have much head movement for Usyk to expose that, we can see that Joshua now has given a warning for a hammer fist on round 9 Usyk is now feeling those liver punch from Joshua and we can see Usyk running to escape Joshua's punches now on round 10 Usyk made a comeback giving a volume of punches to Joshua a decision win is not for Anthony Joshua he surely needs to Knock Usyk down, and that is his game plan but because of that speed and volume of punches Usyk won the match,

Zhilei Zhang VS Filip Hrgovic ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN

In this fight, I thought that Zhilei Zhang won it, a knockout in the early rounds great technical punches by Zhang that always capitalize with great strength but that was all in the early rounds because Hrgovic is the one that exceeded the punches in the later rounds and we can see that Zhilei Zhang is now the one that is always being saved by the bell, now and you can see the Fatigue on Zhilei Zhang it was, and on the 12 round, he is surely tired he is now running to the corner just to be safe on Filip Hrgovic punches, on the near time end of the 12th round, he also though because of the early Knockdown he won the fight,

It is not surprising because when a boxer is replaced at the last moment, all the training and preparation of the other boxer is wasted.  They (Figueroa) prepare a strategy against Broner but instead got Lipinet at the last moment.  If you remember the last fight of Paquiao the same thing happen, his camp prepare for the fighter replaced by Ugas but got Ugas at the last minute so Pacquiao have trouble adjusting during the fight and lost.

The results were quite surprising because as a substitute for Broner, Lipinets actually only had a little time to prepare for the fight, but in fact Lipinets were able to compensate and even fight quite crazy by releasing many heavy blows at Figueroa, I think,  what Figueroa father did was actually true because in the 8th round, Lipinets were really quite brutal with many targeting Figueroa head as a target, so it was clear that Lipinets dominated enough without any resistance from Figueroa who had been stuck at the side of the ring.

Joshua did all he could, but Usyk deserved the win. I feel Usyk did not only win this fight, but he went on to prove that he is a better and stronger boxer than Joshua is, which was hard for Joshua to take, after the fight he went on a strange rant which till now i cannot understand what he was trying to say, i think the burden of losing that match was so much and it got into his head, Joshua is a good fighter, and he was a good champ in his time, but he needs to work harder and develop better to beat the best fighters, else it won't be possible. Usyk v Fury? We will all like to see it happen, hope it does.