Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 216. (Read 31941 times)

Nice win for Usyk with 2.95 odds. It was a close one because it's a split decision but I believe Usyk deserves to win that match. The rivalry is now officially over and we have no hype opponent for Fury, so let's see if they'll fight soon.

This odds is indeed juicy because AJ is hungry to get his revenge fight but since this a heavyweight bout. I’m probably more on the KO pick rather than decision because we know that this 2 boxer can give a lethal blow on any round that will cause a KO. I think this is the reason too why the bookmaker is very confident on providing that kind of juicy odds despite of the skills of the player.

Before the fight starts this is what I think and my pick for the Usyk vs. Joshua 2: Rage on the Red Sea event

Oleksandr Usyk VS Anthony Joshua

Stake odds for this match are 1.51 for Usyk while 2.65 for Joshua, it seems that many are favoring Usyk because of their 1st match because there are many that think that Usyk outclassed Anthony Joshua in their first match in the 1st round we can see that Usyk is using faints to check the reaction of Joshua, you can see that Oleksandr Usyk really is a technical fighter, we can see that Oleksandr Usyk got the patient the calculating thoughts to initiate a great set up for Joshua, at 1st I thought that Usyk is a hard puncher that is very reliable of his strength but after watching their fight Usyk is really one step ahead of Anthony Joshua always catching Joshua with a lead right counter punch, so for me, my pick will be Oleksandr Usyk although I really like Anthony Joshua I think that he doesn't stand a chance against Usyk, so Usyk is my pick,

Zhilei Zhang VS Filip Hrgovic

Stake odds for this fight are 1.10 for Hrgovic while 7.60 for Zhang, Another fight that I think I will make my pick was the co-main event for this fight I see that Filip Hrgovic is a knock-out artist for having so much KO/TKO on his records pretty much I can surely say that Filip Hrgovic has the punching power he needs to win in this fight, but this bet is not really profitable at all so I am staying away with the bet,

Joshua vs Usyk will be happening tomorrow in my time zone and as i looked at the odds, it seems that we have a juicy one for Joshua to win via decision. I know that Joshua's confidence is not so high right now but boy this odds is hard to pass up because i know he can win this rematch just like what he did in their rematch with Ruiz where he did what he needed to do for him to him and my bet ticket won too with an odds of 5.2.

@Baofeng, @Kemarit, @inthelongrun what do you think about the below markets?

Sad for who? the boxing fans? I'm not sure if he had one in this boxing community. His antics his trash talking, his brandish style makes casual fans doesn't like this dude. And after Maidana beat his ass, his aura of invincibility is gone, and he become a laughing stock and meme all over the internet. And even if he shows up and win this fight, I don't think he can make a comeback in the 140 lbs and become a factor in that weight class, his best years are over now.

I agree with you, Casimero is a great option for Nonito to show off and recover much more reputation, this is something that should be taken into account, however, maybe we don't know, but if Nonito is looking for some money I think I could take advantage, let's remember that boxing is a sport where you can make a lot of money, because your business model is very well designed for that, and to be able to capitalize quickly if you make the corresponding and pertinent agreement.

Nonito needs one more fight, I think he deserves it, right? Almost for me it is at the level that they can give and offer a great fight and show.

What happens is that the Ryan thing was something very strong, however I think he was fine now, when there are mental health problems of that kind, a boxer currently for me before making a fight should be evaluated by a good psychologist to see if he is ready to fight or not, sometimes a person who is not very well can seek to harm himself by taking advantage of the opponent, many things can be seen that we do not know.

Well, sometimes things don't go the way you want and fights happen because the business model is much stronger than reason, sometimes money is above the sport itself, but those are forces that sometimes we don't control, and being less fans.

But according to Figueroa he also suffers from the same mental issue that Broner is undergoing, but still he insist that he should go an fight AB because they already sign a contract. And that's why he is so mad about Broner, but it is what it is, he had Sergey Lipinet now as his opponent.

Figueroa though is still listed as almost 4:1 underdog against the replacement Lipinet. And the over/under is 8.5.

Everyone can be hit by this mental problems, recently it was Ryan Garcia but he was able to recover after almost 2 years, and same with Danny Garcia as well, he mentioned it after his win against Campa. So it's real, every athlete are affected by it, just how they are going to respond. The sad part is that Broner, of all the time in the world, suddenly withdraw days before the fight and its so uncanny for him to make his excuse. Anyhow, the fight is going to push through this weekend, but I'm not that interested to watch to be honest.

Then let these boxers experience several defeats until such time that realization will come that they need to stop for good. We can't just ask them to retire if they really want to push through their careers even if they are already at their considered retirement period. Obviously, we are not in place to give them recommendations especially if their mindset is really set to still fight.

Don't worry bro. Nonito Donaire knows when he will stop. It's not that he will really push and aim for something if he thinks he can't do it.

The time will come that he will finally announce his retirement but only he knows when.

He cited mental health issues as his reasons, so we will leave it like that. However, he went on the tirade on the press conference and maybe you know, he hurt someone in that attack that could have pulled the trigger on him, this is just a speculation on my side and think about it, they were able to get a hold of a replacement just like that.

But yes, Broner is no longer in his prime and I don't know why he is still given that chance to fight and make money for him and his family.

Andrien Borner withdrawal in the fight against Omar is really quite sad, because actually I hope that the fight between Andrien Borner and Omar Figueroa will provide an interesting spectacle because after all Andrien Borner is one of the boxers who is quite good and able to win four division titles, but indeed mental problems make someone have to be handled properly and that reason can be a reasonable reason for his resignation, as a substitute fighter I hope that in the ring Sergey Lipinets will be able to put up a strong fight against Omar Figueroa and become an interesting main fight besides the re-fight that I the most waiting for Oleksandr Usyk vs Anthony Joshua.

Just like what goinmerry said, there would be no interested organizers or other parties to make the fight happen even though these fighters still wanted to fight because they are afraid that the fight will not be a blockbuster nor will be profitable for them. But if at any point they will be granted a fight because there's some interested to make the fight happen then I guess by that we will see if for example Nonito Donaire made the right choice instead of retiring.

And that is the spirit of a true warrior because a warrior won't just give up after the loss he experienced, instead he takes that loss as to be more determined in the next fights and will be a reminder for him not to taste that bitter taste again. For Donaire, he believes that he can still make some diference in lower weight that's why he chose to not to retire. Let the man do what he wants, we will see it soon if his decisions will be worth it.

Remember that Adrien Broner supposedly had a comeback fight against Figueroa?

AB withdraw from that fight citing mental health issues,


https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/adrien-broner-withdraws-from-bout-against-omar-figueroa-amid-struggles-with-mental-health/

He had an outburst when the press conference was held because it's not done on live TV but through video calls.

But then again, when the fight date is near, he suddenly withdraw, and I think AB is done for good now in boxing. His replacement will be Sergey Lipinets.

Desire isn't enough to win a fight.  When the mind is still active but the body is lagging, you know it is time to retire.  We can observe it in the fight too.  As spectators, we are keener to changes than the ones who own the body.  He might feel he is still in optimum condition but if the reflexes deny him then it is time to retire.


Definitely they can decide for themselves since it is their body.  Only the owner of the body can decide for himself even though it is obvious that retirement is due.

If he still wants to get into fights and wants to dominate then he'll do the stepping down. But if not, he'll do whatever he takes before he retires.

Aging really matters in terms of an athletic career, especially in this type of sport that needs physical contact.

But, as of now, we don't hear a lot from him and we still need to wait for the announcement on what his next step.

I agree, for us it's easy to judge the boxers base on their performance and say that they should retire because they have been beaten very badly that they can't retire. But, the next day, those fighters will have a different mindset and want to comeback strong.


And so they will go on with their careers, not just for fighters that is about to retire, but again, as I have said, those who for example have been knockout or lost in the card and was dominated. And so they want to proved something to their fans and critics that they can still fight after this circumstances and will come back very strong and maybe avenge their defeat.

Still up to the mindset of this boxers, I mean if they can still feel even at late 30;s or entering 40's that they can fight, then boxers like Nonito will continue. And because once this fighters retire, there is no coming back and maybe they just want last push in their career before they say I quit. And it seems this is Nonito's decision, maybe one fight to chase greatness and maybe if he losses again, he will announce his retirement, we will see.

Well, For me it feels like they already know that Teofimo Lopez would win, on the poster where Pedro Campa was not there, to selecting a victim that they think Teofimo Lopez would take on easily, it really sounds like a fixed fight but as I was saying I am never been sure about this it is all my speculations, and I believe that fixed can not be determined unlock proven or if someone confesses about it, and for people being aware that there are fixed fights I'd say it can happen and it is real,


Well, in my opinion, Nonito Donaire can decide for himself, and he surely is the one that can know what his body can do and what his body can not, so I am sure if he wants to fight then we can see a great fight from him, well moving in a lighter division is not a bad move and in actuality, every boxer can do it, and he is aiming for that division belt, so let's expect a war to happen,

Yes mate, of course they have their own reasons why they still choose to fight even though they are not that young anymore and even though most of the fans wanted them to retire because of the age factor, part of those reasons why they still continue is that they believe that they can still deliver a win in the fights they participate because the power is still their and somehow they are agile enough to keep up with their foes.