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September 01, 2022, 10:03:29 AM
But I think that this is quite normal and even logical. Top boxers fight once a year (at best) and not every fight is interesting. It is difficult enough to be satisfied with such rare events. Unlike professional fights, show fights are almost guaranteed to provide entertainment and they can be held at least every week - literally as much as the public is willing to pay with their attention and money. The pandemic has popularized this type of entertainment, but this does not mean that at the end of the pandemic, the public should cool off for such fights.

There are still fans who wanted to see their former champ to fight inside the ring and promoters are taking advantage knowing that there's still ticket sales that they can convert each time they offer this kind of events. Even it's no longer the same crowd as with the pandemic but they can still collect a good amount of money for this kind of fights.

It's on the fans and the gamblers who are still thinking that they are willing to take that gamble and enjoy the fight.

You are right, and it doesn't really matter what a popular person does - his followers will look at it with interest anyway. If you take twitch, then the most popular streamers, no matter what they do - from just chatting to playing some kind of stupid game (not interesting to anyone if you don’t take into account who plays it) always collect a huge number of viewers. Similarly with these fights - legends are always interesting, even if they have grown old and cannot be competitive in purely professional sports.
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September 01, 2022, 03:29:43 AM
Probably a pro-debut  Grin.  I am looking for a reply from people who don't want an exhibition fight like this but it looks like I can't find one  Cheesy.  It looks like they already accepted the fact that boxing is not only a sport but more a business thing.  I like watching Silva in his MMA moments, but I wonder if he can fare enough with boxing.  So I am thinking of exhausted Silva after round 4.
Unlike before, it's all about winning. Now, they are coming in because of the mountain of money involved in it. I still admire boxers who are putting a lot of effort into their body and training. Like Pacquiao for example, but there will always be that thought of most of the time it's about money. It was stained by this kind of bout so it should not be seriously taken.
Definitely! But still, it is interesting to watch a fight like this, especially when a person involved had made a dominating fighter impression on our minds.
As a fan of Silva yes, I would love to watch it too. Who would not want to watch a kid (Jake Paul) being beaten by a 47-year-old? Silva will have a lot of support from those who want to shut down this kind of guy.
You already fall for the hype, Lol, because that is the same tactic that Floyd uses, everyone wanted to see his fight and wanted to see him being knockout like by Manny, but he didn't happen.

So maybe the same mindset here, Silva is legendary during his prime he just toys with the best middleweight MMA fighter. And he has a successful boxing career if I'm not mistaken. So we want him to give Jake Paul a lesson not to mess with a legend. But I doubt that it will happen, seems this could be rig and Paul hands is going to be raised as the winner.
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September 01, 2022, 01:26:14 AM
Probably a pro-debut  Grin.  I am looking for a reply from people who don't want an exhibition fight like this but it looks like I can't find one  Cheesy.  It looks like they already accepted the fact that boxing is not only a sport but more a business thing.  I like watching Silva in his MMA moments, but I wonder if he can fare enough with boxing.  So I am thinking of exhausted Silva after round 4.
Unlike before, it's all about winning. Now, they are coming in because of the mountain of money involved in it. I still admire boxers who are putting a lot of effort into their body and training. Like Pacquiao for example, but there will always be that thought of most of the time it's about money. It was stained by this kind of bout so it should not be seriously taken.
Definitely! But still, it is interesting to watch a fight like this, especially when a person involved had made a dominating fighter impression on our minds.
As a fan of Silva yes, I would love to watch it too. Who would not want to watch a kid (Jake Paul) being beaten by a 47-year-old? Silva will have a lot of support from those who want to shut down this kind of guy.
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August 31, 2022, 03:23:11 PM
Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.

Is this an exhibition fight? Or Anderson Silva is making his pro-debut in boxing at an age of 47? Grin
I already knew this fight would come after Jake's fight has been cancelled against Rahman Jr., it was already rumored that Jake would fight Silva but ignored it as it will be an another money fight for Jake Paul. Sure, Silva is a professional and deadly athlete but that's on octagon and not in the ring.

Probably a pro-debut  Grin.  I am looking for a reply from people who don't want an exhibition fight like this but it looks like I can't find one  Cheesy.  It looks like they already accepted the fact that boxing is not only a sport but more a business thing.  I like watching Silva in his MMA moments, but I wonder if he can fare enough with boxing.  So I am thinking of exhausted Silva after round 4.

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Also, Silva is already old enough and I'd say this he is just after the guaranteed money he can get after the fight.

Definitely! But still, it is interesting to watch a fight like this, especially when a person involved had made a dominating fighter impression on our minds.
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August 31, 2022, 12:59:48 PM
Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.

Is this an exhibition fight? Or Anderson Silva is making his pro-debut in boxing at an age of 47? Grin
I already knew this fight would come after Jake's fight has been cancelled against Rahman Jr., it was already rumored that Jake would fight Silva but ignored it as it will be an another money fight for Jake Paul. Sure, Silva is a professional and deadly athlete but that's on octagon and not in the ring. Also, Silva is already old enough and I'd say this he is just after the guaranteed money he can get after the fight.
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August 31, 2022, 11:24:54 AM
Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.
He still have a power, but I think it's unlikely we might see Jake will lost here.

Silva has nothing to lose here, he doesn't have a clean record, he wouldn't mind to get one or more losses due to his old ages. As we can see after he's already 38 years old, almost all of his result only keep losing, he only won once from 9 fought. Another thing he's a MMA fighter, his strength mainly on kick, not punch.

I just take this fight for entertain only and obviously I will bet Paul if the odds isn't really low, we're know Paul will win lol.

Anderson Silva once was one of the best in the world but after he got beat by Chris Weidman, the match in which Anderson Silva tried to showboat a little too much and got knocked out, Anderson Silva has not been the same.

If I remember correctly he lost six fights among the eight that he fought after that. And it is understandable because the guy is getting old.

Jake Paul is very powerful. And obviously in my opinion has a better punching power compared to Anderson Silva currently in my opinion. Honestly, it is not going to be very surprising if Jake Paul actually ends up winning. After all, he has been winning fights that he wasn’t supposed to win, right?
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August 31, 2022, 11:24:30 AM
 
I just hope that he have learned the lesson that being overconfident is also dangerous. But yes, despite that he's aware of who can he beat and win.

It's better for him to have that emotion set at the normal setting so that it won't overwhelm him when he's on another match whether it will be from a lower division fighter or of the same.

Who? Donaire? I don't really think that he have that kind of attitude where goes being overconfident to his foe because of his capabilities, we know Donaire's attitude towards Inoue though but none of it shouts that he's overconfident.

Even us didn't really expected that Inoue will evolve that much because we think that they will still have a long 12-round fight where there will be a long blow-by-blow punches all the way to the 12th round. But Inoue finished Donaire in just 2 rounds with a stoppage.
On his match with Inoue, he said that he's going to beat Inoue and that's what I think that he became overconfident on that time. That's just my opinion and if you think guys that it's not a sign that he's overconfident with those words, that's okay.

It is what I've thought of him.

But I want the best for him if he ever will have another match again. We all love to see him back and healthy again with a win.

Well, I think Donaire can beat Inoue if he is still in his prime, but sadly his body can't catch up with his words since he already lost a lot of speed due to aging in their fight.  But as far as I know, Donaire has never been overconfident in his fight, to the point that he is slacking in training.  Having a self confidence is helpful in a boxer since he can think clearly and won't be intimidated by the opponent.



Yes, right. Those words that Donaire has said before the fight isn't a sign of being an overconfident but he is just confident on himself that in the rematch he is more prepared. But when the rematch started, it was evident that Inoue has evolved into a literal monster where Donaire was left astonished because he didn't expected that at all, Inoue now is really on a different level!
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August 31, 2022, 07:02:35 AM
I'm surprised that those kind of fights are still a thing, I could understand that when we were in the middle of the pandemic and there was almost no sports events being held all around the world and people were extremely hungry for anything that seemed to be even remotely related to sports then those kind of fights got incredibly popular, but now that we can see professionals boxers fighting at the top of their skill then I do not really see the point of those fights anymore.

But I think that this is quite normal and even logical. Top boxers fight once a year (at best) and not every fight is interesting. It is difficult enough to be satisfied with such rare events. Unlike professional fights, show fights are almost guaranteed to provide entertainment and they can be held at least every week - literally as much as the public is willing to pay with their attention and money. The pandemic has popularized this type of entertainment, but this does not mean that at the end of the pandemic, the public should cool off for such fights.

There are still fans who wanted to see their former champ to fight inside the ring and promoters are taking advantage knowing that there's still ticket sales that they can convert each time they offer this kind of events. Even it's no longer the same crowd as with the pandemic but they can still collect a good amount of money for this kind of fights.

It's on the fans and the gamblers who are still thinking that they are willing to take that gamble and enjoy the fight.
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August 31, 2022, 05:17:10 AM
Right, that's what they basically do right now in boxing/MMA, exhibition fights with former champions and then see how much money they can make it. Not sure how much guarantee money is for Silva, but I will speculate that it could be in the millions and then Jake Paul taking the lionshare of it. For sure there are still fans that is willing to go to live gate and watch it or buy PPV. So in any case, it's a win win. However, for pure boxing fans, not sure if they will bet on it or want to watch this kind of exhibition matches.
Yes, it's hard to find the excitement for matches like this that's why bettors would just let it pass, I mean for me that will be the case.
It's a money-building thing and just for mere entertainment. Some would want to watch the fight being a long-time fan of Anderson Silva and some scouts also trying to figure out if he still has the power. And maybe, who knows, create something out of it. Turn it into a trend and fix more matches for him even at his age.
Paul should still be careful though as that hands of Silva are packed with a lot of power. If he gets knocked out, he better keep laying on the mat.
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August 31, 2022, 05:02:15 AM
I'm surprised that those kind of fights are still a thing, I could understand that when we were in the middle of the pandemic and there was almost no sports events being held all around the world and people were extremely hungry for anything that seemed to be even remotely related to sports then those kind of fights got incredibly popular, but now that we can see professionals boxers fighting at the top of their skill then I do not really see the point of those fights anymore.

But I think that this is quite normal and even logical. Top boxers fight once a year (at best) and not every fight is interesting. It is difficult enough to be satisfied with such rare events. Unlike professional fights, show fights are almost guaranteed to provide entertainment and they can be held at least every week - literally as much as the public is willing to pay with their attention and money. The pandemic has popularized this type of entertainment, but this does not mean that at the end of the pandemic, the public should cool off for such fights.
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August 31, 2022, 04:29:09 AM
Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.
He still have a power, but I think it's unlikely we might see Jake will lost here.

Silva has nothing to lose here, he doesn't have a clean record, he wouldn't mind to get one or more losses due to his old ages. As we can see after he's already 38 years old, almost all of his result only keep losing, he only won once from 9 fought. Another thing he's a MMA fighter, his strength mainly on kick, not punch.

I just take this fight for entertain only and obviously I will bet Paul if the odds isn't really low, we're know Paul will win lol.
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August 31, 2022, 04:07:52 AM
Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.
Not surprised to see that the Paul brothers still have this type of fight. Well, just another buck making match for them and as well as for Anderson.
The match is said to happen by October, no odds yet for this match on stake but most likely we'll see when we go near to the match date.

Right, that's what they basically do right now in boxing/MMA, exhibition fights with former champions and then see how much money they can make it. Not sure how much guarantee money is for Silva, but I will speculate that it could be in the millions and then Jake Paul taking the lionshare of it. For sure there are still fans that is willing to go to live gate and watch it or buy PPV. So in any case, it's a win win. However, for pure boxing fans, not sure if they will bet on it or want to watch this kind of exhibition matches.
It's a money making business so everyone shouldn't be shock by the Paul brothers. They shock the internet and now they are conquering exhibitions matches will huge revenues in the millions. so they will continue to do it as long as fans are willing to buy.

But as you have said, pure boxing fans doesn't like the idea of this kind of matches. Might be good in the pandemic, when Tyson and Roy Jones Jr fought for pure entertainment and so called money being raised for charity. But after that, it's all business, Floyd and the Paul brothers.
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August 30, 2022, 09:30:47 PM
Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.
Not surprised to see that the Paul brothers still have this type of fight. Well, just another buck making match for them and as well as for Anderson.
The match is said to happen by October, no odds yet for this match on stake but most likely we'll see when we go near to the match date.

Right, that's what they basically do right now in boxing/MMA, exhibition fights with former champions and then see how much money they can make it. Not sure how much guarantee money is for Silva, but I will speculate that it could be in the millions and then Jake Paul taking the lionshare of it. For sure there are still fans that is willing to go to live gate and watch it or buy PPV. So in any case, it's a win win. However, for pure boxing fans, not sure if they will bet on it or want to watch this kind of exhibition matches.
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August 30, 2022, 08:56:37 PM
Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.
Not surprised to see that the Paul brothers still have this type of fight. Well, just another buck making match for them and as well as for Anderson.
The match is said to happen by October, no odds yet for this match on stake but most likely we'll see when we go near to the match date.
I'm surprised that those kind of fights are still a thing, I could understand that when we were in the middle of the pandemic and there was almost no sports events being held all around the world and people were extremely hungry for anything that seemed to be even remotely related to sports then those kind of fights got incredibly popular, but now that we can see professionals boxers fighting at the top of their skill then I do not really see the point of those fights anymore.
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August 30, 2022, 05:19:48 PM
Not sure though if Broner or someone in his camp cared to give some evidence that proves he has some mental issues that's why he backed out from that fight. Who wouldn't be so pissed about that? Grin You've allocated all your time and effort for a certain boxer to study his moves in the ring and Figueroa is really looking forward to fight Broner in the same ring but unfortunately, Broner turns his back on him.

Oh well, we really will not know the real reasons for now, maybe they just said to the organizations that AB has mental issues and can't be bothered and so he wanted to cancel the fight, so it is what it is. This could be the new norm of excuses if fighters just wake up and doesn't what to fight anymore. For sure Broner will get a lot of judgement on this one. Specially on his style and arrogant and self-important this guy is when promoting his fight.
Evidence should be provided or if not there should be penalties that must be imposed.
I read an article before that Figueroa's camp has some evidence that Broner is not really in a bad mental state.
He even called it just a reason to "cop out".
I guess this is the next bad reasoning after the Covid. Figueroa's fans are still not satisfied with what happened (loss to Lipinets) and all the blame are on what Broner did. I guess it really sucks to prepare at a full blow for your real match but will end up fighting a different boxer.

I think, Figueroa's camp should let things go.  Besides, it is their own incompetence that made them lose the fight.  It does suck to have the opponent replaced at the last moment but if the fight goes the other way around and Figueroa's won the fight, I doubt there will be an issue like this.  Besides, both fighters had given the same amount of time for preparation for the strategy since both fighters are notified at the same time.  

Figueroa's had move forward already, of course there could be what if for him, maybe he can beat this version of Broner. But he has found his peace already, and just retire for good and focus on his family. We can't say the same with Broner though, I think he will still continue to fight for some money because he has a lot of mouths to feed.

Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.

Yes it is, https://www.mmafighting.com/2022/8/30/23328607/jake-paul-vs-anderson-silva-reportedly-set-for-october-boxing-bout

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Jake Paul vs. Anderson Silva is about to go down.

TMZ reported Tuesday that Paul is set to face longtime UFC middleweight champion and MMA legend Silva in a boxing bout in October, with a location still to be determined. An initial report from NoSmokeBoxing has the bout scheduled for Oct. 29.

MMA Fighting’s Guilherme Cruz reached out to sources with knowledge of the matchup who confirmed that the bout is in the works.

Still a good fight and it make sense as it could still make a lot of money for both of them. But we all know that Anderson is way past his prime so all the advantage points to him.
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August 30, 2022, 04:48:31 PM
Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.
Not surprised to see that the Paul brothers still have this type of fight. Well, just another buck making match for them and as well as for Anderson.
The match is said to happen by October, no odds yet for this match on stake but most likely we'll see when we go near to the match date.
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August 30, 2022, 03:59:43 PM
Jake Paul has announced his next opponent is Anderson Silva. I think Jake might have but off a little more than he can chew this time. Sure, Silva is damn near 50 years old, but he’s got power that Jake hasn’t seen before. I like this fight. I’d rather have seen him fight Andrew Tate, but this was unexpected and a nice surprise.
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August 30, 2022, 12:08:06 PM
Not sure though if Broner or someone in his camp cared to give some evidence that proves he has some mental issues that's why he backed out from that fight. Who wouldn't be so pissed about that? Grin You've allocated all your time and effort for a certain boxer to study his moves in the ring and Figueroa is really looking forward to fight Broner in the same ring but unfortunately, Broner turns his back on him.

Oh well, we really will not know the real reasons for now, maybe they just said to the organizations that AB has mental issues and can't be bothered and so he wanted to cancel the fight, so it is what it is. This could be the new norm of excuses if fighters just wake up and doesn't what to fight anymore. For sure Broner will get a lot of judgement on this one. Specially on his style and arrogant and self-important this guy is when promoting his fight.
Evidence should be provided or if not there should be penalties that must be imposed.
I read an article before that Figueroa's camp has some evidence that Broner is not really in a bad mental state.
He even called it just a reason to "cop out".
I guess this is the next bad reasoning after the Covid. Figueroa's fans are still not satisfied with what happened (loss to Lipinets) and all the blame are on what Broner did. I guess it really sucks to prepare at a full blow for your real match but will end up fighting a different boxer.

I think, Figueroa's camp should let things go.  Besides, it is their own incompetence that made them lose the fight.  It does suck to have the opponent replaced at the last moment but if the fight goes the other way around and Figueroa's won the fight, I doubt there will be an issue like this.  Besides, both fighters had given the same amount of time for preparation for the strategy since both fighters are notified at the same time.  

Things already happened and no matter what the fans would feel about the result, they can't do anything about it anymore. They better accept it while still supporting Figueroa at the same time. Issues like this often happen especially if the fans didn't reach their expected result. If they have complaints about it, they should have provided rete proof to support their claims but since they can't provide one, I guess the best thing to do for them is just to accept defeat.
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August 30, 2022, 11:55:30 AM

But he is not old yet, if he wants to continue fighting then he can do it, however, he might not be making good paycheck unlike before because his popularity has already gone down. His lost to Manny was one sided, but the fans could understand since from the very start, we already know that Broner's chance to win is very slim.

I'm on that opinion, maybe the money that him and his camp will be receiving ain't interesting anymore and the mentality inside him about fighting is not that important I mean he don't have the good career to protect so maybe he's not interested to go inside the ring or he's not willing to be trained that hard and try to win a fight and hype his name.

Or, another thing is promoters are trying to make a writeup about him and try to attract readers, especially his fans to push him

to make a comeback, just speculation though but also possible. It's business, so making things like this might engage people and
brig possible tickets conversions when he signs another deal.

When he was still a popular boxer, there are plenty of videos circulating online about how lavish he is when it comes to spending his money. So now, I think he might be indebted because he ain't making a lot of money, and if he still keeps his old lifestyle, he sure is facing a big problem until now.

A very good reason for him to fight and make money, or he just wanted to retire and copy how retire fighters making money, I mean he can do exhibition fights, much lighter and he don't need to train that much, Just my opinion and I'm not sure if that's the real score. But along the way he still needs to make money and since he is still young and he can still fight, a chance to come back or to make some decent earnings is still possible for him from this sport.

Adrian Broner should have announced his retirement if he doesn't want to fight anymore After his loss to Manny Pacquiao he isn't the same anymore, he doesn't want to take a fight mostly, he sure is not the same Adrian Broner back then, in my opinion,

Adrian Broner is already showing signs of inconsistencies even prior fighting to with Pacquiao.

I'm not even sure why he is considered to be an opponent to Manny Pacquaio although he is a front-runner during that time. The result of that fight against Pacquiao is not even close and his final score is really bad.

Broner is still young at age 33 but seems his fighting performance is almost like around 40 years old already.

Too much partying contributed to the degradation of his career, if you are not a very disciplined fighter it will catch up with you, Pacquiao lasted long in his career because of his outstanding discipline, even if he has no scheduled fights he still trains hard, he's been like this since 12 years old and he never stopped training,  boxers after long inactivity gain a lot of weight, in the case of Broner his reflexes and power are not there anymore and besides all the fighters in this generation are tougher and more discipline.

Yeah, that's really affecting them if they start embarrassing their millions and failed to continue their routines. Fighters who stop or lessen their time with trainings and drills mostly gained a lot of weights. If there's no self-will, it will be hard for them to win back their fighting form and the chance of winning is also slimming since the body conditions are no longer the same.
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August 29, 2022, 08:00:00 AM
Adrian Broner should have announced his retirement if he doesn't want to fight anymore After his loss to Manny Pacquiao he isn't the same anymore, he doesn't want to take a fight mostly, he sure is not the same Adrian Broner back then, in my opinion,

Adrian Broner is already showing signs of inconsistencies even prior fighting to with Pacquiao.

I'm not even sure why he is considered to be an opponent to Manny Pacquaio although he is a front-runner during that time. The result of that fight against Pacquiao is not even close and his final score is really bad.

Broner is still young at age 33 but seems his fighting performance is almost like around 40 years old already.

Too much partying contributed to the degradation of his career, if you are not a very disciplined fighter it will catch up with you, Pacquiao lasted long in his career because of his outstanding discipline, even if he has no scheduled fights he still trains hard, he's been like this since 12 years old and he never stopped training,  boxers after long inactivity gain a lot of weight, in the case of Broner his reflexes and power are not there anymore and besides all the fighters in this generation are tougher and more discipline.
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