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August 18, 2022, 08:57:30 AM
Nonito's career is not over, but if I would suggest, I think he should retire already.

The way you say that you think Nonito Donaire should retire simply shows that you think his career is over.  I think let's just watch from the sideline the outcome if ever Nonito decided to move to lighter weight.  I know he still has that KO punch but then I hope he still retains 90% of his speed.  I think he has an advantage in the lower-weight division since I believe he can withstand punches in that division more than his current.

With the experience he have in the industry and the talent he possess, I can say that Donaire will be deadly in the lower division but the catch is that we must accept that he isn't the Filipino Flash that we used to know anymore as he's already aging but the power is still there, I don't doubt it. But yes, you are right these are just mere speculations and we should watch him first before saying that he should already retire.
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August 16, 2022, 06:24:32 PM
At certain age, if you yourself will know its time. Its not like other career that doesn't need agility of your youth.  Your skills doesn't depend on how fast you chop the spices but how good the taste of the recipe.

For us speculators, it's easy to say that they should just retire. We can't feel their desire to continue.

As for me, we should just let them do what they want. If at some point they experienced terrible losses and they feel their body is not cooperating now, they will retire right away without any hesitations. And even for let's say they want to continue, the promoters or organizers might not be interested now to form a fight and that will lead that old boxer to consider retiring and call it a career.
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August 16, 2022, 06:22:01 PM
Kambosos already lost all of his belts, so there's no reason either Lopez or Kambosos need a rematch since they're didn't get anything and only risking their good record. It's too soon for the rematch, I think if Lopez is already start collecting a belt and Kambosos move up to light welterweight division, the rematch would happen on the new division. Of course it will be on the same hype since Kambosos will become a challenger again.

That would be a blockbuster fight once again because as we saw Lopez with his last Saturday, he is back again and can really compete at his best or even more strong this time. They became rivals in this era, hope they will gonna fight again soon because fans are loving to see it. It's not really a bad idea for them to see each other again in that division since they already went through a number of fights in the lower divisions, and their body will soon adapt to fight in the light welterweight division.

I'm okay with Kambosos vs Lopez rematch, no belts but these two gave a very entertaining fight, so we can expect that many fans will watch this and they'll be able to sell a good PPV numbers. Teo is trying to be a a champion in the new division, but he has not proven anything yet since the last fight was obviously a cherry picked one.

Same here, that will be a perfect chance for Teo Lopez to avenge his loss during their first encounter but I guess this time it will not be called a rematch, right? If that will happen, I think I'll go with Lopez as I believe that he can really defeat Kambosos back at the time in their first match, it's just that Lopez was a bit big-headed and overconfident that he can successfully defend his belt against Kambosos.
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August 16, 2022, 06:04:54 PM


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Teofimo Lopez VS Pedro Campa ROUND 7 KO/TKO - Teofimo Lopez win,

I don't really want to say that this fight is fixed but after seeing that fight pretty much it was a one-sided match, Tiofimo Lopez Speed was really creating that volume of punches, and he is really moving and punching at the same time, it was really meant for Teofimo Lopez to get this win, it was like Pedro Campa was set up for this fight, cherry picking him to be eaten by Teofimo Lopez, and on round 7 because Campa is taken so much punch to the face from Lopez the referee had stopped the fight and Lopez have won this fight via KO/TKO,

It's far from being fixed Lopez is just being the take-over guy he's fast powerful and too talented for Campa, Campa is doing his best but he's not in Lopez's league let's give Teofimo the praise that he deserves, we have just seen the old Lopez form and style I think he can beat Josh Taylor or anyone in that division and he can give Tank Davis a run for his money the way Lopez fight, Lopez has matured as a boxer with this fight.

It's more of a cherry-pick fight for Teo Lopez, so that he will look great and bring back his confidence after his defeat to Kambosos. And you can see in Campa's record that all of his opponent is not even close to what Teo have been beaten. So this is like a mismatch, a A-level class fighter against lower tier. For Campa's side, this might be his biggest paycheck in US dollar so even if he losses this fight, still a big privilege for him to fight in US soil.

I agree, in fact there's no promoter in the industry that would want his boxer struggle in his debut in that division so they will really try and find that boxer who will be a tune-up while also letting their boxer taste what it is like to fight in that division. It was already expected that Lopez will win though just like their controversial poster, this is all about him but I'm giving credits to Campa because the latter was in fact good because he can withstand all of Lopez's heavy punches and all of that connecting punches. It was a good tune-up match indeed!
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August 15, 2022, 12:25:40 PM
The way you say that you think Nonito Donaire should retire simply shows that you think his career is over.  I think let's just watch from the sideline the outcome if ever Nonito decided to move to lighter weight.  I know he still has that KO punch but then I hope he still retains 90% of his speed.  I think he has an advantage in the lower-weight division since I believe he can withstand punches in that division more than his current.
Yeah I think he's still can compete with the other boxers, Inoue is too much for him since Inoue currently is the top 1 pound for pound professional boxing, he even beat Usyk, Crawford, Spence, and Canelo. If Donaire will lower his weight, then he and Jerwin Ancajas will start collecting a belt for their country. If Ancajas is challenging Martinez, then Donaire could challenge Joshua Franco.

Many boxers at same age will decide to retire. Donaire at 39 with 49 fights in his pro career, its a lot. He had a good run no doubt about that. time has passed.

At certain age, if you yourself will know its time. Its not like other career that doesn't need agility of your youth.  Your skills doesn't depend on how fast you chop the spices but how good the taste of the recipe is.

Boxing also comes with great danger. It is not like basketball that if you are slow because of your age, you can still play and suffer no consequences. Boxing is different. He can get knocked out and that could spell disaster for his health. Many boxers have lingering injuries because they choose to fight even if their body cannot already.

He is already aging but he has proven a lot in his career already. It is not that he is not competitive anymore, but he should also consider his life after boxing. He should retire now and enjoy a healthy life than risk it in the ring.

Donaire is a promising boxer who made a good record in the industry. He doesn't need to retire if he still wants to pursue his career but he needs rest to secure his health. There's nothing wrong with retiring because sometimes, we have to sacrifice our passion especially if it's already affecting our health. I think Donaire still has a huge chance to perform more matches after he regains his strength.
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August 15, 2022, 12:12:37 PM
The way you say that you think Nonito Donaire should retire simply shows that you think his career is over.  I think let's just watch from the sideline the outcome if ever Nonito decided to move to lighter weight.  I know he still has that KO punch but then I hope he still retains 90% of his speed.  I think he has an advantage in the lower-weight division since I believe he can withstand punches in that division more than his current.
Yeah I think he's still can compete with the other boxers, Inoue is too much for him since Inoue currently is the top 1 pound for pound professional boxing, he even beat Usyk, Crawford, Spence, and Canelo. If Donaire will lower his weight, then he and Jerwin Ancajas will start collecting a belt for their country. If Ancajas is challenging Martinez, then Donaire could challenge Joshua Franco.

Many boxers at same age will decide to retire. Donaire at 39 with 49 fights in his pro career, its a lot. He had a good run no doubt about that. time has passed.

At certain age, if you yourself will know its time. Its not like other career that doesn't need agility of your youth.  Your skills doesn't depend on how fast you chop the spices but how good the taste of the recipe.

Boxing also comes with great danger. It is not like basketball that if you are slow because of your age, you can still play and suffer no consequences. Boxing is different. He can get knocked out and that could spell disaster for his health. Many boxers have lingering injuries because they choose to fight even if their body cannot already.

He is already aging but he has proven a lot in his career already. It is not that he is not competitive anymore, but he should also consider his life after boxing. It is better for him to retire now and enjoy a healthy life than risk it in the ring.
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August 15, 2022, 11:04:13 AM
The way you say that you think Nonito Donaire should retire simply shows that you think his career is over.  I think let's just watch from the sideline the outcome if ever Nonito decided to move to lighter weight.  I know he still has that KO punch but then I hope he still retains 90% of his speed.  I think he has an advantage in the lower-weight division since I believe he can withstand punches in that division more than his current.
Yeah I think he's still can compete with the other boxers, Inoue is too much for him since Inoue currently is the top 1 pound for pound professional boxing, he even beat Usyk, Crawford, Spence, and Canelo. If Donaire will lower his weight, then he and Jerwin Ancajas will start collecting a belt for their country. If Ancajas is challenging Martinez, then Donaire could challenge Joshua Franco.

Many boxers at same age will decide to retire. Donaire at 39 with 49 fights in his pro career, its a lot. He had a good run no doubt about that. time has passed.

At certain age, if you yourself will know its time. Its not like other career that doesn't need agility of your youth.  Your skills doesn't depend on how fast you chop the spices but how good the taste of the recipe.
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August 15, 2022, 10:41:56 AM
The way you say that you think Nonito Donaire should retire simply shows that you think his career is over.  I think let's just watch from the sideline the outcome if ever Nonito decided to move to lighter weight.  I know he still has that KO punch but then I hope he still retains 90% of his speed.  I think he has an advantage in the lower-weight division since I believe he can withstand punches in that division more than his current.
Yeah I think he's still can compete with the other boxers, Inoue is too much for him since Inoue currently is the top 1 pound for pound professional boxing, he even beat Usyk, Crawford, Spence, and Canelo. If Donaire will lower his weight, then he and Jerwin Ancajas will start collecting a belt for their country. If Ancajas is challenging Martinez, then Donaire could challenge Joshua Franco.
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August 15, 2022, 09:59:47 AM
Nonito's career is not over, but if I would suggest, I think he should retire already.

The way you say that you think Nonito Donaire should retire simply shows that you think his career is over.  I think let's just watch from the sideline the outcome if ever Nonito decided to move to lighter weight.  I know he still has that KO punch but then I hope he still retains 90% of his speed.  I think he has an advantage in the lower-weight division since I believe he can withstand punches in that division more than his current.
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August 15, 2022, 09:23:38 AM
Kambosos already lost all of his belts, so there's no reason either Lopez or Kambosos need a rematch since they're didn't get anything and only risking their good record. It's too soon for the rematch, I think if Lopez is already start collecting a belt and Kambosos move up to light welterweight division, the rematch would happen on the new division. Of course it will be on the same hype since Kambosos will become a challenger again.

That would be a blockbuster fight once again because as we saw Lopez with his last Saturday, he is back again and can really compete at his best or even more strong this time. They became rivals in this era, hope they will gonna fight again soon because fans are loving to see it. It's not really a bad idea for them to see each other again in that division since they already went through a number of fights in the lower divisions, and their body will soon adapt to fight in the light welterweight division.

I'm okay with Kambosos vs Lopez rematch, no belts but these two gave a very entertaining fight, so we can expect that many fans will watch this and they'll be able to sell a good PPV numbers. Teo is trying to be a a champion in the new division, but he has not proven anything yet since the last fight was obviously a cherry picked one.

They have to do it in the future, the fight is close Teofimo believes he won the fight and there's no love lost between the two fighters, if Lopez did not opt to go up we could have a trilogy in the making, I doubt if Teofimo will go down he seems to be very comfortable in the 140 lbs, its Kambosos who need to go up to face Lopez and if he's interested to make money he can do that if Teofimo Lopez is a champion, its always good to see two great fighters where there is title at stake.
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August 15, 2022, 07:48:49 AM
Kambosos already lost all of his belts, so there's no reason either Lopez or Kambosos need a rematch since they're didn't get anything and only risking their good record. It's too soon for the rematch, I think if Lopez is already start collecting a belt and Kambosos move up to light welterweight division, the rematch would happen on the new division. Of course it will be on the same hype since Kambosos will become a challenger again.

That would be a blockbuster fight once again because as we saw Lopez with his last Saturday, he is back again and can really compete at his best or even more strong this time. They became rivals in this era, hope they will gonna fight again soon because fans are loving to see it. It's not really a bad idea for them to see each other again in that division since they already went through a number of fights in the lower divisions, and their body will soon adapt to fight in the light welterweight division.

I'm okay with Kambosos vs Lopez rematch, no belts but these two gave a very entertaining fight, so we can expect that many fans will watch this and they'll be able to sell a good PPV numbers. Teo is trying to be a a champion in the new division, but he has not proven anything yet since the last fight was obviously a cherry picked one.
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August 15, 2022, 07:41:06 AM

It's more of a cherry-pick fight for Teo Lopez, so that he will look great and bring back his confidence after his defeat to Kambosos. And you can see in Campa's record that all of his opponent is not even close to what Teo have been beaten. So this is like a mismatch, a A-level class fighter against lower tier. For Campa's side, this might be his biggest paycheck in US dollar so even if he losses this fight, still a big privilege for him to fight in US soil.

Well, it is totally fixed because they cherry-picked his fight, but in challenging Gervonta Tank Davis I can not agree if Teofimo Lopez can win against Davis, and even Ryan Garcia, in actuality Pedro Campa is a hard-hitting fighter, but he is slower than Lopez, Teofimo really is seeing through his moves and can react instantly, but for me, Ryan Garcia is faster than Lopez and also Gervonta Davis aswell, those two in my opinion is in another level,

I guess we have our own definition of fixed fight, because for me, it is a fight that is already predetermined as who will win, I mean the other side will have to take a dive. And there are supposedly match fixing in boxing but in the 50's-60's that the mafia or mob may have something to do with it, fight like the Ali vs Liston fight. Many analyst says it's fixed and the mob is behind it but it was never proven. Or the Mike Tyson vs Bruce Sheldon, this fight was fixed to me, the moment Tyson landed that shot, it was over in the first round, the way Bruce goes down to the canvass and then gets up and wobbly, its kind of funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRXu8PyZe8

As compare to this fight, wherein it was cherry pick and obvious mismatch as the level is very different but Campa tried his best, didn't do a dive in the first round but keep hanging on.
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August 15, 2022, 05:06:49 AM
Kambosos already lost all of his belts, so there's no reason either Lopez or Kambosos need a rematch since they're didn't get anything and only risking their good record. It's too soon for the rematch, I think if Lopez is already start collecting a belt and Kambosos move up to light welterweight division, the rematch would happen on the new division. Of course it will be on the same hype since Kambosos will become a challenger again.

That would be a blockbuster fight once again because as we saw Lopez with his last Saturday, he is back again and can really compete at his best or even more strong this time. They became rivals in this era, hope they will gonna fight again soon because fans are loving to see it. It's not really a bad idea for them to see each other again in that division since they already went through a number of fights in the lower divisions, and their body will soon adapt to fight in the light welterweight division.
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August 15, 2022, 03:49:28 AM
For Teo Lopez, hopefully he gets a rematch against Kambosos. That's a close fight between the two of them and obviously shows that Teo has something in him to defeat the Australian boxer either through decision or through a knockout.
Kambosos already lost all of his belts, so there's no reason either Lopez or Kambosos need a rematch since they're didn't get anything and only risking their good record. It's too soon for the rematch, I think if Lopez is already start collecting a belt and Kambosos move up to light welterweight division, the rematch would happen on the new division. Of course it will be on the same hype since Kambosos will become a challenger again.

Yeah, unless Kambosos won his match against Haney in their rematch, but I doubt that Lopez will go down to 135 lbs to challenge Kambosos again. He said that he making 135 lbs is killing him, as he has been in that division for 9 years. So for the rematch to happen Kambosos will have to move up to 140 lbs as well. But he has his hands full on the Haney rematch and we don't know what will be his plans if he lost in the second fight. Probably move up, so we shall see.
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August 15, 2022, 03:44:22 AM

It's far from being fixed Lopez is just being the take-over guy he's fast powerful and too talented for Campa, Campa is doing his best but he's not in Lopez's league let's give Teofimo the praise that he deserves, we have just seen the old Lopez form and style I think he can beat Josh Taylor or anyone in that division and he can give Tank Davis a run for his money the way Lopez fight, Lopez has matured as a boxer with this fight.

Well I am just saying some fight was fixed because I was supporting Campa, and I am upset about the poster, but as I watch the fight it was not really a fixed fight it looks real enough for me, Teofimo Lopez is quite a shocker, in devastating Pedro Campa you can see the distance of their skills and performance that Teofimo is on another level, and speed is really superb Well, for Gervonta Tank Davis, I think I can still put my money on Davis,


It's more of a cherry-pick fight for Teo Lopez, so that he will look great and bring back his confidence after his defeat to Kambosos. And you can see in Campa's record that all of his opponent is not even close to what Teo have been beaten. So this is like a mismatch, a A-level class fighter against lower tier. For Campa's side, this might be his biggest paycheck in US dollar so even if he losses this fight, still a big privilege for him to fight in US soil.

Well, it is totally fixed because they cherry-picked his fight, but in challenging Gervonta Tank Davis I can not agree if Teofimo Lopez can win against Davis, and even Ryan Garcia, in actuality Pedro Campa is a hard-hitting fighter, but he is slower than Lopez, Teofimo really is seeing through his moves and can react instantly, but for me, Ryan Garcia is faster than Lopez and also Gervonta Davis aswell, those two in my opinion is in another level,
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August 14, 2022, 10:05:44 AM
For Teo Lopez, hopefully he gets a rematch against Kambosos. That's a close fight between the two of them and obviously shows that Teo has something in him to defeat the Australian boxer either through decision or through a knockout.
Kambosos already lost all of his belts, so there's no reason either Lopez or Kambosos need a rematch since they're didn't get anything and only risking their good record. It's too soon for the rematch, I think if Lopez is already start collecting a belt and Kambosos move up to light welterweight division, the rematch would happen on the new division. Of course it will be on the same hype since Kambosos will become a challenger again.
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August 14, 2022, 07:12:28 AM


Result of the fight for

Teofimo Lopez VS Pedro Campa ROUND 7 KO/TKO - Teofimo Lopez win,

I don't really want to say that this fight is fixed but after seeing that fight pretty much it was a one-sided match, Tiofimo Lopez Speed was really creating that volume of punches, and he is really moving and punching at the same time, it was really meant for Teofimo Lopez to get this win, it was like Pedro Campa was set up for this fight, cherry picking him to be eaten by Teofimo Lopez, and on round 7 because Campa is taken so much punch to the face from Lopez the referee had stopped the fight and Lopez have won this fight via KO/TKO,

It's far from being fixed Lopez is just being the take-over guy he's fast powerful and too talented for Campa, Campa is doing his best but he's not in Lopez's league let's give Teofimo the praise that he deserves, we have just seen the old Lopez form and style I think he can beat Josh Taylor or anyone in that division and he can give Tank Davis a run for his money the way Lopez fight, Lopez has matured as a boxer with this fight.

It's more of a cherry-pick fight for Teo Lopez, so that he will look great and bring back his confidence after his defeat to Kambosos. And you can see in Campa's record that all of his opponent is not even close to what Teo have been beaten. So this is like a mismatch, a A-level class fighter against lower tier. For Campa's side, this might be his biggest paycheck in US dollar so even if he losses this fight, still a big privilege for him to fight in US soil.

Well both sides obviously got what they wanted on that match-up even if the whole bout is Campa just running around trying to evade Lopez's aggression. Put me in the ring with a fighter more determined and hungrier than I am and I'd still play ball if the price is right. That's what happened here obviously and ain't nothing wrong with that. Both fighters still gave their best on that bout and that's what matters.

For Teo Lopez, hopefully he gets a rematch against Kambosos. That's a close fight between the two of them and obviously shows that Teo has something in him to defeat the Australian boxer either through decision or through a knockout.
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August 14, 2022, 06:49:13 AM


Result of the fight for

Teofimo Lopez VS Pedro Campa ROUND 7 KO/TKO - Teofimo Lopez win,

I don't really want to say that this fight is fixed but after seeing that fight pretty much it was a one-sided match, Tiofimo Lopez Speed was really creating that volume of punches, and he is really moving and punching at the same time, it was really meant for Teofimo Lopez to get this win, it was like Pedro Campa was set up for this fight, cherry picking him to be eaten by Teofimo Lopez, and on round 7 because Campa is taken so much punch to the face from Lopez the referee had stopped the fight and Lopez have won this fight via KO/TKO,

It's far from being fixed Lopez is just being the take-over guy he's fast powerful and too talented for Campa, Campa is doing his best but he's not in Lopez's league let's give Teofimo the praise that he deserves, we have just seen the old Lopez form and style I think he can beat Josh Taylor or anyone in that division and he can give Tank Davis a run for his money the way Lopez fight, Lopez has matured as a boxer with this fight.

It's more of a cherry-pick fight for Teo Lopez, so that he will look great and bring back his confidence after his defeat to Kambosos. And you can see in Campa's record that all of his opponent is not even close to what Teo have been beaten. So this is like a mismatch, a A-level class fighter against lower tier. For Campa's side, this might be his biggest paycheck in US dollar so even if he losses this fight, still a big privilege for him to fight in US soil.

Obviously, Teo was not even hurt in the game, Campa was just too slow for him as even though Teo's defense is still poor but he was not able to take advantage on that. I predicted a KO but on the round 1-3, so I still lost my bet, I'm just right that Teo will win by KO.
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August 14, 2022, 06:43:43 AM


Result of the fight for

Teofimo Lopez VS Pedro Campa ROUND 7 KO/TKO - Teofimo Lopez win,

I don't really want to say that this fight is fixed but after seeing that fight pretty much it was a one-sided match, Tiofimo Lopez Speed was really creating that volume of punches, and he is really moving and punching at the same time, it was really meant for Teofimo Lopez to get this win, it was like Pedro Campa was set up for this fight, cherry picking him to be eaten by Teofimo Lopez, and on round 7 because Campa is taken so much punch to the face from Lopez the referee had stopped the fight and Lopez have won this fight via KO/TKO,

It's far from being fixed Lopez is just being the take-over guy he's fast powerful and too talented for Campa, Campa is doing his best but he's not in Lopez's league let's give Teofimo the praise that he deserves, we have just seen the old Lopez form and style I think he can beat Josh Taylor or anyone in that division and he can give Tank Davis a run for his money the way Lopez fight, Lopez has matured as a boxer with this fight.

It's more of a cherry-pick fight for Teo Lopez, so that he will look great and bring back his confidence after his defeat to Kambosos. And you can see in Campa's record that all of his opponent is not even close to what Teo have been beaten. So this is like a mismatch, a A-level class fighter against lower tier. For Campa's side, this might be his biggest paycheck in US dollar so even if he losses this fight, still a big privilege for him to fight in US soil.
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August 14, 2022, 03:18:06 AM


Result of the fight for

Teofimo Lopez VS Pedro Campa ROUND 7 KO/TKO - Teofimo Lopez win,

I don't really want to say that this fight is fixed but after seeing that fight pretty much it was a one-sided match, Tiofimo Lopez Speed was really creating that volume of punches, and he is really moving and punching at the same time, it was really meant for Teofimo Lopez to get this win, it was like Pedro Campa was set up for this fight, cherry picking him to be eaten by Teofimo Lopez, and on round 7 because Campa is taken so much punch to the face from Lopez the referee had stopped the fight and Lopez have won this fight via KO/TKO,

It's far from being fixed Lopez is just being the take-over guy he's fast powerful and too talented for Campa, Campa is doing his best but he's not in Lopez's league let's give Teofimo the praise that he deserves, we have just seen the old Lopez form and style I think he can beat Josh Taylor or anyone in that division and he can give Tank Davis a run for his money the way Lopez fight, Lopez has matured as a boxer with this fight.
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