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Quote from: Kemarit on May 03, 2024, 06:35:20 PM

^^ And this is what Ryan has to say against McGregor,

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1786462011968369115

Are we going to see Conor vs Ryan in the future? Grin

for the biggest cross-over fight? UFC vs Boxer?

Funny thing is, everyone is jumping on the bandwagon including one of the biggest UFC superstar during his prime, LOL. Ryan denied it already, so for now let's give him the benefit of the doubt. But if he submitted again and failed then maybe there is truth on it.

Bottomline, if they see huge amount of money on this, they will not think twice to push it. But the possibility will be under exhibition fight. No belts on the line. These days, you won't be surprise happening this kind of match. Money seems to sway the decision of these fighters.

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^^ And this is what Ryan has to say against McGregor,

https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1786462011968369115

Are we going to see Conor vs Ryan in the future? Grin

for the biggest cross-over fight? UFC vs Boxer?

Funny thing is, everyone is jumping on the bandwagon including one of the biggest UFC superstar during his prime, LOL. Ryan denied it already, so for now let's give him the benefit of the doubt. But if he submitted again and failed then maybe there is truth on it.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 02, 2024, 01:01:19 AM

Meanwhile, biggest news in boxing at the moment which seems to outshine Canelo-Mungia and Inoue-Nery.

So far Ryan Garcia denied that he used PEDs and that there are people behind it that will take his victory over Haney a few days ago. I am not really that surprised. Ryan went into a different approach against Haney, did not care about the title when he did not tried to make the weight. He seems to not care about legacy in boxing but he wanted to beat Haney at all cost because it will make him more popular as a social media influencer. Ryan can leave boxing and he is still very rich. We'll what happens next but I still trust VADA than USADA and other drug testing associations.

However, they were happy to take the money of Ryan for the weight penalty. That means the fight was legit and beat Haney. I think they are ganging up together to take that win from Ryan again. They were not very happy with the result since they did all they could in the ring and was never enough and now they are trying to discredit it that he cheated by the allegations he was using PEDs.

And it's becoming political now that Ryan is promoting Trump as well. The Haneys are yet not done and then Mcgregor is also inserting himself into this mess.

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Meanwhile, biggest news in boxing at the moment which seems to outshine Canelo-Mungia and Inoue-Nery.

So far Ryan Garcia denied that he used PEDs and that there are people behind it that will take his victory over Haney a few days ago. I am not really that surprised. Ryan went into a different approach against Haney, did not care about the title when he did not tried to make the weight. He seems to not care about legacy in boxing but he wanted to beat Haney at all cost because it will make him more popular as a social media influencer. Ryan can leave boxing and he is still very rich. We'll what happens next but I still trust VADA than USADA and other drug testing associations.

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Quote from: Dave1 on May 01, 2024, 05:37:07 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 01, 2024, 12:57:41 AM

@Kemarit. You are correct. There is no argument against the signing of the contract with the rehydration clause is Ryan's fault. My argument is against the fans who do not consider the rehydration clause as the cause of King Ry's loss. Similar to what you have said, Tank will not fight this version of King Ry because he does not want to fight King Ry where he is strongest. However, King Ry agreed to fight Tank in his strongest and with a rehydration clause hehehehehe. I reckon it is very clear who will create a bigger legacy. This will not be Tank.

Too early to say who has a clear legacy, this fighters are still very young, and as per argument there could be fans that at the end of the day will used this fight to push Tank as the best compare to Ryan. Similar to fans that boasted Floyd's 50-0 against Manny Pacquaio for all the greatness after their retirement. But as we can see though, Manny's run was incredible, 8 division and many still considers the greatest and the best and Floyd is just second to him. So let's see how Ryan career will go after that big upset win against Haney. He could be a champion like Manny an be like by fans and even if he has lost already perhaps down in the future, if he chooses good fight, maybe, just maybe he will be up there with some of the great fighters.

That's correct, they are still young and still has a lot of fight to finish, just look at Haney for example, we thought that he'll be the next Mayweather as he has the size and the quickness to move up, but he loss to Ryan Garcia who is a heavy underdog at that time. So there's no guarantee on how they'll finish their career, but they have to impress the fans by not cherry picking their opponents, instead, they'll choose a fighter that are equal to their skills and that they'll be challenge.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on May 01, 2024, 12:57:41 AM

@Kemarit. You are correct. There is no argument against the signing of the contract with the rehydration clause is Ryan's fault. My argument is against the fans who do not consider the rehydration clause as the cause of King Ry's loss. Similar to what you have said, Tank will not fight this version of King Ry because he does not want to fight King Ry where he is strongest. However, King Ry agreed to fight Tank in his strongest and with a rehydration clause hehehehehe. I reckon it is very clear who will create a bigger legacy. This will not be Tank.

Too early to say who has a clear legacy, this fighters are still very young, and as per argument there could be fans that at the end of the day will used this fight to push Tank as the best compare to Ryan. Similar to fans that boasted Floyd's 50-0 against Manny Pacquaio for all the greatness after their retirement. But as we can see though, Manny's run was incredible, 8 division and many still considers the greatest and the best and Floyd is just second to him. So let's see how Ryan career will go after that big upset win against Haney. He could be a champion like Manny an be like by fans and even if he has lost already perhaps down in the future, if he chooses good fight, maybe, just maybe he will be up there with some of the great fighters.

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@Kemarit. You are correct. There is no argument against the signing of the contract with the rehydration clause is Ryan's fault. My argument is against the fans who do not consider the rehydration clause as the cause of King Ry's loss. Similar to what you have said, Tank will not fight this version of King Ry because he does not want to fight King Ry where he is strongest. However, King Ry agreed to fight Tank in his strongest and with a rehydration clause hehehehehe. I reckon it is very clear who will create a bigger legacy. This will not be Tank.

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@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

There’s no doubt Tank had an unfair advantage but Ryan bears some responsibility for agreeing to those terms. Canelo and Floyd have used similar tactics before, but it has not had much impact on their legacy. For me it diminishes their accomplishments, which is why I consider Beterbiev, Nakatani, and Bivol better pound for pound fighters than Canelo, even though many lists have him third only behind Inoue and Crawford.

I think Ryan has no choice though, he is the B-side on that negotiations and we can say that he just wanted to fight Tank Davis. And there could be upside as well for him as far as PPV revenues and live gates and that's why he said yes.

And he just try to make it real but telling the public that there is a rehydration clause and Davis camp didn't disagree with him and they justify that Ryan is too big for Tank that's why they inserted it in the contract. And most likely why Tank as much as he had that superstar power, is still behind with some fighters that you mentioned as far as greatness is because he just wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

We are not arguing about Ryan's choice. This is his mistake on signing the fight against the ICO scammer Tank with a rehydration clause. We are talking about the fans that gave Tank the cheers when he won vs. King Ry and agreeing on the argument that he gave up in the ring without considering the rehydration clause.

What mistakes though, he should knew in the beginning that he will be at a disadvantage. They can simply walk away from the contract, but eventually they did. And it's good that there are no NDA in this clause, LOL, because if there are, we will not know that there are such thing as rehydration clause in that fight. And even if Tank Davis win, it diminishes some of that aura of his big win because of this clause.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 28, 2024, 10:29:12 PM

I reckon King Ry was there to make boxing great again. However, this scammer Tank is using the coward's tactic by hiding behind the contract. I would like to witness a rematch against Pitbull and another rematch against King Ry. We can be quite certain Tank will avoid these.

No way Tank Davis will fight this version of Ryan, he will be too big for Davis, and I doubt that they are willing to go up at 140 lbs to fight King Ry. They can't have another negotiations with rehydration clause, Ryan will not agree to that.

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^^ Yes, he had us with his antics and his posts but deep inside, his circles is knows that he is just playing the crowd and he wanted us to see that he is mentally unstable so that everyone will doubt him including Devin Haney. And for sure, not only is Ryan who bet on him, perhaps his closest friends has put a lot of money on the line for him and guess what it did paid off with that huge odds stack against him and yes we wouldn't be surprised to see him not partying with all of his friends because they have wont a lot of money. For his next fight, it should be still money for him, not sure if Pitbull Cruz can give him that audience as he will be the one to carry the promotion again and bring fight fans on the sit and watch it live.

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Quote from: bittraffic on April 28, 2024, 11:27:21 AM

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@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

There’s no doubt Tank had an unfair advantage but Ryan bears some responsibility for agreeing to those terms. Canelo and Floyd have used similar tactics before, but it has not had much impact on their legacy. For me it diminishes their accomplishments, which is why I consider Beterbiev, Nakatani, and Bivol better pound for pound fighters than Canelo, even though many lists have him third only behind Inoue and Crawford.

I think Ryan has no choice though, he is the B-side on that negotiations and we can say that he just wanted to fight Tank Davis. And there could be upside as well for him as far as PPV revenues and live gates and that's why he said yes.

And he just try to make it real but telling the public that there is a rehydration clause and Davis camp didn't disagree with him and they justify that Ryan is too big for Tank that's why they inserted it in the contract. And most likely why Tank as much as he had that superstar power, is still behind with some fighters that you mentioned as far as greatness is because he just wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

Ryan sees an opportunity to make a big paycheck once he fight Tank Davis and it did happen. What's in the contract are valid, and since the fight happen, that means both have agreed to it, so Ryan could not come up with excuses on why he lose to Tank Davis. But that's the past, Ryan have live up his name now after he defeated Haney which is of his own size, and if we think that Ryan and Davis will meet again, then I think this controversy or excuses will come alive again, better these two will just move or stay to the weight limit they are comfortable with so they can always give their best to win.

It's Tank's term to prove Ry accusation is incorrect. I have doubts he will respond to it though, all of those guys wanted to see themselves like Floyd being 50-0 undefeated til retired. They all want to be undefeated that's why they failed to take 8 division champ.

If Ryan had thought about the rematch clause as well if he lost the fight, I think this issue between them would have been settled with another fight which there should have been 3rd as well. It would have been a bigger money for Ry too. But the kid was also being robbed of that opportunity. He got a good comeback through Devin. Ryan now demanded a rematch to Tank on his term.

And it's a good decision by Ryan and his camp not to go for a immediate rematch, test the waters at 140 lbs and then when he felt confident he goes after the champion at Devin Haney. And then he doesn't want to drain himself, paid $1.5 million fees to the Haney, and what's interesting is,

He bet on himself at $2 million, huge underdog at 6x-7x and so he he was able to recoup that money he paid to the Haney's.

So as we have said, we have been played by Ryan and that's you can see how happy he is even after weeks of fight and partying because of the huge money he make.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 28, 2024, 10:29:12 PM

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 28, 2024, 12:23:35 AM

@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

There’s no doubt Tank had an unfair advantage but Ryan bears some responsibility for agreeing to those terms. Canelo and Floyd have used similar tactics before, but it has not had much impact on their legacy. For me it diminishes their accomplishments, which is why I consider Beterbiev, Nakatani, and Bivol better pound for pound fighters than Canelo, even though many lists have him third only behind Inoue and Crawford.

I think Ryan has no choice though, he is the B-side on that negotiations and we can say that he just wanted to fight Tank Davis. And there could be upside as well for him as far as PPV revenues and live gates and that's why he said yes.

And he just try to make it real but telling the public that there is a rehydration clause and Davis camp didn't disagree with him and they justify that Ryan is too big for Tank that's why they inserted it in the contract. And most likely why Tank as much as he had that superstar power, is still behind with some fighters that you mentioned as far as greatness is because he just wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

We are not arguing about Ryan's choice. This is his mistake on signing the fight against the ICO scammer Tank with a rehydration clause. We are talking about the fans that gave Tank the cheers when he won vs. King Ry and agreeing on the argument that he gave up in the ring without considering the rehydration clause.

That's Tank fans, you can't argue that they will cheer on him, and no matter how you explain to them what Tank did in terms of contract, they will just keep a blind eye and wouldn't take any of that argument.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 28, 2024, 10:29:12 PM

I reckon King Ry was there to make boxing great again. However, this scammer Tank is using the coward's tactic by hiding behind the contract. I would like to witness a rematch against Pitbull and another rematch against King Ry. We can be quite certain Tank will avoid these.

I don't think Tank is going to rematch either of the two. He will be protected until someone take that 0 from him. He didn't fair well with Pitbull although is excuse is that he had injured his hands and both of this 2 are campaigning at 140 lbs and I don't see Tank moving up to that division anytime soon.

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Quote from: Viscore on April 28, 2024, 10:20:59 AM

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 28, 2024, 12:23:35 AM

@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

There’s no doubt Tank had an unfair advantage but Ryan bears some responsibility for agreeing to those terms. Canelo and Floyd have used similar tactics before, but it has not had much impact on their legacy. For me it diminishes their accomplishments, which is why I consider Beterbiev, Nakatani, and Bivol better pound for pound fighters than Canelo, even though many lists have him third only behind Inoue and Crawford.

I think Ryan has no choice though, he is the B-side on that negotiations and we can say that he just wanted to fight Tank Davis. And there could be upside as well for him as far as PPV revenues and live gates and that's why he said yes.

And he just try to make it real but telling the public that there is a rehydration clause and Davis camp didn't disagree with him and they justify that Ryan is too big for Tank that's why they inserted it in the contract. And most likely why Tank as much as he had that superstar power, is still behind with some fighters that you mentioned as far as greatness is because he just wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

Ryan sees an opportunity to make a big paycheck once he fight Tank Davis and it did happen. What's in the contract are valid, and since the fight happen, that means both have agreed to it, so Ryan could not come up with excuses on why he lose to Tank Davis. But that's the past, Ryan have live up his name now after he defeated Haney which is of his own size, and if we think that Ryan and Davis will meet again, then I think this controversy or excuses will come alive again, better these two will just move or stay to the weight limit they are comfortable with so they can always give their best to win.

Yes, in terms of money matters Ryan sees that opportunities and he did not let it pass though the outcome is not for him but he got his paycheck and he enjoy that millions, though it bring him down in terms of carrier but he manage to bring his name up again after winning his previous fight, you just need to move along and for sure most of them are all aiming for a good paycheck and willing to take that big risk for the sake of money.

Just need to keep moving forward and try more open opportunities, he got his name up and for sure he will convert more money while being in the hots spot.

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@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

There’s no doubt Tank had an unfair advantage but Ryan bears some responsibility for agreeing to those terms. Canelo and Floyd have used similar tactics before, but it has not had much impact on their legacy. For me it diminishes their accomplishments, which is why I consider Beterbiev, Nakatani, and Bivol better pound for pound fighters than Canelo, even though many lists have him third only behind Inoue and Crawford.

I think Ryan has no choice though, he is the B-side on that negotiations and we can say that he just wanted to fight Tank Davis. And there could be upside as well for him as far as PPV revenues and live gates and that's why he said yes.

And he just try to make it real but telling the public that there is a rehydration clause and Davis camp didn't disagree with him and they justify that Ryan is too big for Tank that's why they inserted it in the contract. And most likely why Tank as much as he had that superstar power, is still behind with some fighters that you mentioned as far as greatness is because he just wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

We are not arguing about Ryan's choice. This is his mistake on signing the fight against the ICO scammer Tank with a rehydration clause. We are talking about the fans that gave Tank the cheers when he won vs. King Ry and agreeing on the argument that he gave up in the ring without considering the rehydration clause.

I reckon King Ry was there to make boxing great again. However, this scammer Tank is using the coward's tactic by hiding behind the contract. I would like to witness a rematch against Pitbull and another rematch against King Ry. We can be quite certain Tank will avoid these.

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Quote from: Viscore on April 28, 2024, 10:20:59 AM

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@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

There’s no doubt Tank had an unfair advantage but Ryan bears some responsibility for agreeing to those terms. Canelo and Floyd have used similar tactics before, but it has not had much impact on their legacy. For me it diminishes their accomplishments, which is why I consider Beterbiev, Nakatani, and Bivol better pound for pound fighters than Canelo, even though many lists have him third only behind Inoue and Crawford.

I think Ryan has no choice though, he is the B-side on that negotiations and we can say that he just wanted to fight Tank Davis. And there could be upside as well for him as far as PPV revenues and live gates and that's why he said yes.

And he just try to make it real but telling the public that there is a rehydration clause and Davis camp didn't disagree with him and they justify that Ryan is too big for Tank that's why they inserted it in the contract. And most likely why Tank as much as he had that superstar power, is still behind with some fighters that you mentioned as far as greatness is because he just wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

Ryan sees an opportunity to make a big paycheck once he fight Tank Davis and it did happen. What's in the contract are valid, and since the fight happen, that means both have agreed to it, so Ryan could not come up with excuses on why he lose to Tank Davis. But that's the past, Ryan have live up his name now after he defeated Haney which is of his own size, and if we think that Ryan and Davis will meet again, then I think this controversy or excuses will come alive again, better these two will just move or stay to the weight limit they are comfortable with so they can always give their best to win.

It's Tank's term to prove Ry accusation is incorrect. I have doubts he will respond to it though, all of those guys wanted to see themselves like Floyd being 50-0 undefeated til retired. They all want to be undefeated that's why they failed to take 8 division champ.

If Ryan had thought about the rematch clause as well if he lost the fight, I think this issue between them would have been settled with another fight which there should have been 3rd as well. It would have been a bigger money for Ry too. But the kid was also being robbed of that opportunity. He got a good comeback through Devin. Ryan now demanded a rematch to Tank on his term.

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@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

There’s no doubt Tank had an unfair advantage but Ryan bears some responsibility for agreeing to those terms. Canelo and Floyd have used similar tactics before, but it has not had much impact on their legacy. For me it diminishes their accomplishments, which is why I consider Beterbiev, Nakatani, and Bivol better pound for pound fighters than Canelo, even though many lists have him third only behind Inoue and Crawford.

I think Ryan has no choice though, he is the B-side on that negotiations and we can say that he just wanted to fight Tank Davis. And there could be upside as well for him as far as PPV revenues and live gates and that's why he said yes.

And he just try to make it real but telling the public that there is a rehydration clause and Davis camp didn't disagree with him and they justify that Ryan is too big for Tank that's why they inserted it in the contract. And most likely why Tank as much as he had that superstar power, is still behind with some fighters that you mentioned as far as greatness is because he just wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

Ryan sees an opportunity to make a big paycheck once he fight Tank Davis and it did happen. What's in the contract are valid, and since the fight happen, that means both have agreed to it, so Ryan could not come up with excuses on why he lose to Tank Davis. But that's the past, Ryan have live up his name now after he defeated Haney which is of his own size, and if we think that Ryan and Davis will meet again, then I think this controversy or excuses will come alive again, better these two will just move or stay to the weight limit they are comfortable with so they can always give their best to win.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 28, 2024, 12:23:35 AM

@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

There’s no doubt Tank had an unfair advantage but Ryan bears some responsibility for agreeing to those terms. Canelo and Floyd have used similar tactics before, but it has not had much impact on their legacy. For me it diminishes their accomplishments, which is why I consider Beterbiev, Nakatani, and Bivol better pound for pound fighters than Canelo, even though many lists have him third only behind Inoue and Crawford.

I think Ryan has no choice though, he is the B-side on that negotiations and we can say that he just wanted to fight Tank Davis. And there could be upside as well for him as far as PPV revenues and live gates and that's why he said yes.

And he just try to make it real but telling the public that there is a rehydration clause and Davis camp didn't disagree with him and they justify that Ryan is too big for Tank that's why they inserted it in the contract. And most likely why Tank as much as he had that superstar power, is still behind with some fighters that you mentioned as far as greatness is because he just wanted to protect his 0 at all cost.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 28, 2024, 12:23:35 AM

@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

There’s no doubt Tank had an unfair advantage but Ryan bears some responsibility for agreeing to those terms. Canelo and Floyd have used similar tactics before, but it has not had much impact on their legacy. For me it diminishes their accomplishments, which is why I consider Beterbiev, Nakatani, and Bivol better pound for pound fighters than Canelo, even though many lists have him third only behind Inoue and Crawford.

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@btc_angela. This is what has been said by only the very few of the boxing fans in boxing forums and the fans in bitcointalk.org might be thinking that this is only a conspiracy theory if we mention it hehehee. If King Ry did not win against Devin Haney, I reckon everyone would remain to think that this is only a conspiracy theory. It is headshaking. Much of these fans want to think and only accept Tank Davis has won without speculating why and how. We were scammed by Tank. We should not support this type of person.

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According to Sugar Sean O'Malley, boxing against Ryan Garcia is not an impossible occurrence. We have witnessed uncle Dana mention before that he does not like to promote something similar to Conor vs. Money Mayweather anymore. He did not tell everyone his reasons. I speculate this is because uncle Dana certainly knows that his UFC fighters will be defeated and become the jokes of the internet again hehehehehh.

Going to be a mismatch if this fight is going to happen, obviously it will be boxing rules so Sugar Sean is at a disadvantage. Everyone is now calling Ryan or at least Ryan is looking for big names at 147 lbs. And I don't think that Dana will allow this cross over fights, no Ngannou scenario again, MMA fighters getting knockout.

Oscar said that they can do a catchweight of Tank, but he can fight full at 147-154 lbs. Romero is out of the pictures already as per Oscar.

So everything is going on Ryan's way right now, for Haney, needs to take this year off and get a tune up fight next year. No immediate rematch for him.

I very much agree. King Ry will certainly knockout Sugar Sean and put him on the stretcher. I reckon we will know if uncle Dana cares for his fighters or if he only wants to take money from them if he allows or not allows Sugar Sean in boxing. If he allows this, we can be quite certain that uncle Dana is only there for money.

If my memory serves me right, I think Uncle Dana says that he will no longer sending at least fighters under contract with his organization to fight boxers as it will be a mismatch. But obviously Sean is still on the hunt for Garcia as he is trolling Ryan even after he won the fight. But Ryan didn't mentioned his name and obviously Ryan is looking for great fights and Sean is not a option for him right now.

Pitbull Cruz now also wants a piece of Ryan Garcia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sufYTfAgb1I

And as Oscar says, all roads lead to Ryan now as he is the new face of boxing.

King Ry mentioned Sugar Sean in this podcast and he also said that this is a challenge that he wants to do on 2025 or 2026.

https://youtu.be/LXtXcYUIO0M?si=0VYFi7xJCuo21Jbw

In any case, I speculate that the next fight that King Ry wants to promote is a catchweight challenge against the boxer who hides behind the contract rehydration clause Tank Davis. This Tank is afraid to fight Ryan on his real weight.

Not sure if that image is photo shop or not, but I did comeback to see the Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia fight and yeah I see some difference as far as the body of Ryan goes and his movement.

So the weight, specially the rehydration clause really affected his performance against Davis. Not saying that Davis is not a great boxer, but it's not even 50/50 at the start because Ryan needs to squeeze and force his body to the weight limit here and he is really weak that's one when Davis hit that body, it's over for him.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 24, 2024, 12:39:43 AM

News update for the fans of boxing and mixed martial arts together.

According to Sugar Sean O'Malley, boxing against Ryan Garcia is not an impossible occurrence. We have witnessed uncle Dana mention before that he does not like to promote something similar to Conor vs. Money Mayweather anymore. He did not tell everyone his reasons. I speculate this is because uncle Dana certainly knows that his UFC fighters will be defeated and become the jokes of the internet again hehehehehh.

Going to be a mismatch if this fight is going to happen, obviously it will be boxing rules so Sugar Sean is at a disadvantage. Everyone is now calling Ryan or at least Ryan is looking for big names at 147 lbs. And I don't think that Dana will allow this cross over fights, no Ngannou scenario again, MMA fighters getting knockout.

Oscar said that they can do a catchweight of Tank, but he can fight full at 147-154 lbs. Romero is out of the pictures already as per Oscar.

So everything is going on Ryan's way right now, for Haney, needs to take this year off and get a tune up fight next year. No immediate rematch for him.

I very much agree. King Ry will certainly knockout Sugar Sean and put him on the stretcher. I reckon we will know if uncle Dana cares for his fighters or if he only wants to take money from them if he allows or not allows Sugar Sean in boxing. If he allows this, we can be quite certain that uncle Dana is only there for money.

@Dave1. Are they rapping? It appears that they are having a rap battle, Jay Z vs. Kanye hehehehee. They are sprinkling their saliva, give them water.

I speculate that Bill Haney knows that his son's only chance to become a popular boxer again is a victory against Tank Davis. Who can Devin Haney fight that can have good revenue on payperviews? There is no one, I reckon. This might be the beginning of a challenge by Haney's team.

Lol, not sure, it seems that Bill Haney is on the offensive on that video and says that Floyd's record is nothing eventhough he is undefeated. But Bill doesn't want any of Tank Davis as there are videos of him saying to that effect.

He might have to take this year and yes, enjoy the time with his family before making any move at 140 lbs. Maybe a fight with Teo Lopez or any other champion like Pitbull Cruz might save his career if he wins.

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