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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 12, 2023, 08:32:29 AM

The good thing about Mark Magsayo is that he is under MP Promotions which takes good care of his career. Though not yet on the top 5 of each sanctioning bodies but somehow he will be there in a few fights due to the connections of Sean Gibbons. I do agree that he still needs a tune-up fight before fighting for a belt even though he was amazing in his last fight.

He won unforgettably and he finished his opponent with a deadly move that ended the fight. Looks like he is ready for another high-level opponent that could test his pro boxing skills or maybe a chance for a championship bout. Nevertheless, his next opponent is surely not gonna rush to fight him without any proper training. That knockout is a message for his next opponent that they are in need of new skills to counter that technique in order to win against Magsayo.

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O'Shaquie Foster has a coming match with Abraham Nova in February. Robson Conceicao had a great performance when he fought Navarette; some even believed he won. The demand is high and we will see Conceicao getting another championship match next year.

This is going to be a good match, either way I will go with Foster winning this fight. Not sure about Robson, he has so many chance to win the belt but he always feel short. Yeah, he did great against Navarette, but the volume punching of Navarette is too much that's why the judges give him the win.

Cool! Foster is becoming a very active champion and I like it. He might fight 3 to 4 times next year if he remains healthy and of course, he needs to retain the belt to get more attractive fights.

This is an intriguing fight for me. Foster has the skills but he struggled in his last fight before he managed to close it in the last round. I only watched one fight of Nova in the past. That was when he got knocked out by now-former champion Robeisy Ramirez at 126. If Nova is a heavy underdog in this fight then I might take a bet. Nova is with Top Rank and the judges might favor him when the rounds are close.

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Yes, I do agree with this strategy, and I think boxers who are new in the division will have the same approach unless you are going up in weight and you have a unbeaten record like Haney did against Prograis and he beat the hell out of Regis on that fight. In this case, I think Magsayo will really have to stay here and then feel the division with fighter lesser known boxer first and see how it goes for him. And I don't think that the champion or the organization are going to match him very quickly against the champion in WBC. I would say that there are more fighters deserving of or being the mandatory to the champion. But in order for Magsayo to have a crack, he will have to make his way up, the old way, it might take at least 2 fights in my opinion before he will be recognized as a challenger.

Indeed, there are more deserving fighters who are in-line to have that shot and challenge the champs, unless Magsayo's camp have connections to sell his name from both the promoters and the opposing camp, though that's still far from happening. He needed to fight fighters at the same level and try to create his name from this division.

It's a long journey for him after deciding to move up. This previous win might give him credit, but not that much to bring the interest of both fans and promoters.

Speaking of that brutal knockout, and as we have seen, Avelar was brought out thru a stretcher and it's not a good scene for us boxing fans.

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Likewise, with his brutal shots and accuracy, he knocked out Avelar in only the third round of their fight, scheduled for eight rounds. However, while Mark offered a huge KO for the spectators to cherish, the injured Avelar left the ring on a stretcher, barely moving his body.

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-god-is-in-the-control-of-this-situation-mark-magsayo-join-fans-in-praying-for-the-safety-of-opponent-as-isaac-avelar-leaves-ring-on-stretcher-after-brutal-knockout/

So let's join Magsayo in praying that Avelar will be fine and ok after Mark knock him out. And hope that he will recover and be as strong and bounce back.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 12, 2023, 04:43:52 PM

Yes, I do agree with this strategy, and I think boxers who are new in the division will have the same approach unless you are going up in weight and you have a unbeaten record like Haney did against Prograis and he beat the hell out of Regis on that fight. In this case, I think Magsayo will really have to stay here and then feel the division with fighter lesser known boxer first and see how it goes for him. And I don't think that the champion or the organization are going to match him very quickly against the champion in WBC. I would say that there are more fighters deserving of or being the mandatory to the champion. But in order for Magsayo to have a crack, he will have to make his way up, the old way, it might take at least 2 fights in my opinion before he will be recognized as a challenger.

Indeed, there are more deserving fighters who are in-line to have that shot and challenge the champs, unless Magsayo's camp have connections to sell his name from both the promoters and the opposing camp, though that's still far from happening. He needed to fight fighters at the same level and try to create his name from this division.

It's a long journey for him after deciding to move up. This previous win might give him credit, but not that much to bring the interest of both fans and promoters.

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Checking on the rankings, Magsayo has broken into the top 10 with this win. He is rank 7th in WBC wherein the champion is O'Shaquie Foster. Looking at familiar names here: Robson Conceicao ranks number 2.

So we should imagine how him and Robson will clash, definitely contrasting style, but who knows, maybe Magsayo can score a upset if they fight.

But there are some unfamiliar names in the ranking, maybe that should be Magsayo's target in the top 5 and again, maybe he will have a good chance to defeat them and obviously ranks up.

That is great for him. I look at the other three belts and Magsayo is positioned as number 13 by the WBO for the November ratings. I am almost certain Magsayo will enter the WBO top 10 once the evaluations for the December ratings are done. Moreover, who knows if the WBA and IBF will likewise include Magsayo for their December ratings. If he keeps on winning he will get a championship match soon.

In WBC he is already rank number 7. And yeah, most likely if he keeps on winning his rank will go up and could break top 10 to top 5. But Sean Gibbons doesn't need to rush Magsayo in this division. I do agree that they should pick another tune up fight for him before going into the likes of Robson or Navarette.

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O'Shaquie Foster has a coming match with Abraham Nova in February. Robson Conceicao had a great performance when he fought Navarette; some even believed he won. The demand is high and we will see Conceicao getting another championship match next year.

This is going to be a good match, either way I will go with Foster winning this fight. Not sure about Robson, he has so many chance to win the belt but he always feel short. Yeah, he did great against Navarette, but the volume punching of Navarette is too much that's why the judges give him the win.

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Checking on the rankings, Magsayo has broken into the top 10 with this win. He is rank 7th in WBC wherein the champion is O'Shaquie Foster. Looking at familiar names here: Robson Conceicao ranks number 2.

So we should imagine how him and Robson will clash, definitely contrasting style, but who knows, maybe Magsayo can score a upset if they fight.

But there are some unfamiliar names in the ranking, maybe that should be Magsayo's target in the top 5 and again, maybe he will have a good chance to defeat them and obviously ranks up.

That is great for him. I look at the other three belts and Magsayo is positioned as number 13 by the WBO for the November ratings. I am almost certain Magsayo will enter the WBO top 10 once the evaluations for the December ratings are done. Moreover, who knows if the WBA and IBF will likewise include Magsayo for their December ratings. If he keeps on winning he will get a championship match soon.

O'Shaquie Foster has a coming match with Abraham Nova in February. Robson Conceicao had a great performance when he fought Navarette; some even believed he won. The demand is high and we will see Conceicao getting another championship match next year.

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^^ Yes, they don't need to rush Magsayo, maybe he still have that sting in his mind about losing his belt and failed to regain it. So for now it like a mental game for him and his team to just get someone in their next fight that he can also beat convincingly.

It could be outside of the top 10 rankings again and then slowly making his name up as he is used to do this before. We never heard him before until he got the championship and then defend it several times, one of the best Filipino champ before.

And with that, in order to regain his status, MP should consider a slow and match making for triple M.

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But still Navarette is solid as this division and I do not see any advantage of Mark Magsayo over the rest of the champions here. Navarette's volume and output might be too much for Magsayo and he is very open to counter and for sure Navarette will find that opening in their fight.

Joseph Cordina is a tall dude, while O'Shaquie Foster is very technical and no offense to the fans of Magsayo as I'm also a fan of him, but Foster is going to make a killing out of him if this face each other.

Not to drag Magsayo, but I also believe that this new division is really tough for him, though he won on his debut, and it creates noise and hype with the way he takes down his opponent, but in serious matter, those champs and top ranks' contenders will surely bring him difficulty to move forward.

Let's see how he can take this new journey and how far he can reach with the way he showcases his skills and talent.

Checking on the rankings, Magsayo has broken into the top 10 with this win. He is rank 7th in WBC wherein the champion is O'Shaquie Foster. Looking at familiar names here: Robson Conceicao ranks number 2.

So we should imagine how him and Robson will clash, definitely contrasting style, but who knows, maybe Magsayo can score a upset if they fight.

But there are some unfamiliar names in the ranking, maybe that should be Magsayo's target in the top 5 and again, maybe he will have a good chance to defeat them and obviously ranks up.

^ Personally, I think he should first target the relatively lesser-known names. Because in those fights, he will have a better chance to win. And that is going to give him the confidence to fight the more popular ones. And I believe that is going to be a wise decision. Because even though he has gone into the top 10 scenes right now, it is going to be hard for him to actually fight a very well-known fighter and actually win. He should not be emotional and think that he can take on anyone. He should think about this more strategically. That is going to give him a better chance to actually win.

Yes, I do agree with this strategy, and I think boxers who are new in the division will have the same approach unless you are going up in weight and you have a unbeaten record like Haney did against Prograis and he beat the hell out of Regis on that fight. In this case, I think Magsayo will really have to stay here and then feel the division with fighter lesser known boxer first and see how it goes for him. And I don't think that the champion or the organization are going to match him very quickly against the champion in WBC. I would say that there are more fighters deserving of or being the mandatory to the champion. But in order for Magsayo to have a crack, he will have to make his way up, the old way, it might take at least 2 fights in my opinion before he will be recognized as a challenger.

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But still Navarette is solid as this division and I do not see any advantage of Mark Magsayo over the rest of the champions here. Navarette's volume and output might be too much for Magsayo and he is very open to counter and for sure Navarette will find that opening in their fight.

Joseph Cordina is a tall dude, while O'Shaquie Foster is very technical and no offense to the fans of Magsayo as I'm also a fan of him, but Foster is going to make a killing out of him if this face each other.

Not to drag Magsayo, but I also believe that this new division is really tough for him, though he won on his debut, and it creates noise and hype with the way he takes down his opponent, but in serious matter, those champs and top ranks' contenders will surely bring him difficulty to move forward.

Let's see how he can take this new journey and how far he can reach with the way he showcases his skills and talent.

Checking on the rankings, Magsayo has broken into the top 10 with this win. He is rank 7th in WBC wherein the champion is O'Shaquie Foster. Looking at familiar names here: Robson Conceicao ranks number 2.

So we should imagine how him and Robson will clash, definitely contrasting style, but who knows, maybe Magsayo can score a upset if they fight.

But there are some unfamiliar names in the ranking, maybe that should be Magsayo's target in the top 5 and again, maybe he will have a good chance to defeat them and obviously ranks up.

^ Personally, I think he should first target the relatively lesser-known names. Because in those fights, he will have a better chance to win. And that is going to give him the confidence to fight the more popular ones. And I believe that is going to be a wise decision. Because even though he has gone into the top 10 scenes right now, it is going to be hard for him to actually fight a very well-known fighter and actually win. He should not be emotional and think that he can take on anyone. He should think about this more strategically. That is going to give him a better chance to actually win.

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Rolly Romero: “Now We Know Why Prograis Didn’t Want To Fight Me”
https://www.boxingscene.com/rolly-romero-now-we-know-why-prograis-didnt-want-fight-me--179932

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Once Haney eventually placed the final nail in the coffin, Romero realized that Prograis was a liar. The 34-year-old chalked up his unwillingness to fight Romero as simply having bigger fish to fry. Now, after watching his latest performance, Romero believes he knows the real reason why he was unwilling to swap fists with him.

“Now we know why Prograis didn’t want to fight me,” wrote Romero on his social media account. “He don’t wanna get cracked.”

Nah, I don't think that's the reason behind it.
Romero cannot boast too much as his win against Ismael Barroso was stopped too early. In my opinion, the referee made a big mistake there as Barroso is still fighting back. Or maybe I didn't see something that only the referee did.
But Romero cannot use this as the reason for Prograis not accepting his challenge. Bigger fish to fry. That's what I think Prograis' camp is thinking and also about the money.

Anyway, Prograis didn't have much to say about his fight against Haney. All he did was praise the guy and he thinks he is really good.

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“He’s definitely better than I thought he was, for sure,” Prograis stated during his post-fight press conference. “You know, he does have fast feet, good defense and, you know, he has sneaky power for sure. You know, he doesn’t have the concussive power to like just knock you out like that, but he does have sneaky power to where he can run you into it.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/prograis-haney-definitely-better-i-thought-fast-feet-good-defense-sneaky-power--179927
Technical boxer. Haney performed a clinic against Prograis and he will definitely learn a lot from that fight. No knockout power but can knock you down and that's a big score in boxing.
Still, I like Prograis for not making excuses, he fought well but Haney is better. As simple as that.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 12, 2023, 07:41:39 AM

Checking on the rankings, Magsayo has broken into the top 10 with this win. He is rank 7th in WBC wherein the champion is O'Shaquie Foster. Looking at familiar names here: Robson Conceicao ranks number 2.

So we should imagine how him and Robson will clash, definitely contrasting style, but who knows, maybe Magsayo can score a upset if they fight.

But there are some unfamiliar names in the ranking, maybe that should be Magsayo's target in the top 5 and again, maybe he will have a good chance to defeat them and obviously ranks up.

The good thing about Mark Magsayo is that he is under MP Promotions which takes good care of his career. Though not yet on the top 5 of each sanctioning bodies but somehow he will be there in a few fights due to the connections of Sean Gibbons. I do agree that he still needs a tune-up fight before fighting for a belt even though he was amazing in his last fight.

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Mark Magsayo won his fight at super featherweight, 130 lbs, he beat Isaac Avaler via a vicious knockout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXfQiPR9v_A

Although there are still some loopholes in Magsayo here, as he was open for counter. But the good thing is that he can take the punch of Avaler because he has a solid chin. But he needs to cover his face at this division because it's going to be very difficult for him if he will face fighters in the top 10.

So this person just climbed to a new division after his back to back losses to Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa. Although Magsayo has a powerful punch, his fighting style does have many flaws. If he wants to become a champion once more, he needs to change those bad habits.

Anyhow, it is good that he returned to the ring and won once more. Perhaps a couple of more matches and he gets a championship match. The title holders are not stable except for Navarette. But Navarrette already in his third division tenure, is beginning to exhibit some weaknesses that could be taken advantage of.

But still Navarette is solid as this division and I do not see any advantage of Mark Magsayo over the rest of the champions here. Navarette's volume and output might be too much for Magsayo and he is very open to counter and for sure Navarette will find that opening in their fight.

Joseph Cordina is a tall dude, while O'Shaquie Foster is very technical and no offense to the fans of Magsayo as I'm also a fan of him, but Foster is going to make a killing out of him if this face each other.

Not to drag Magsayo, but I also believe that this new division is really tough for him, though he won on his debut, and it creates noise and hype with the way he takes down his opponent, but in serious matter, those champs and top ranks' contenders will surely bring him difficulty to move forward.

Let's see how he can take this new journey and how far he can reach with the way he showcases his skills and talent.

Checking on the rankings, Magsayo has broken into the top 10 with this win. He is rank 7th in WBC wherein the champion is O'Shaquie Foster. Looking at familiar names here: Robson Conceicao ranks number 2.

So we should imagine how him and Robson will clash, definitely contrasting style, but who knows, maybe Magsayo can score a upset if they fight.

But there are some unfamiliar names in the ranking, maybe that should be Magsayo's target in the top 5 and again, maybe he will have a good chance to defeat them and obviously ranks up.

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Mark Magsayo won his fight at super featherweight, 130 lbs, he beat Isaac Avaler via a vicious knockout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXfQiPR9v_A

Although there are still some loopholes in Magsayo here, as he was open for counter. But the good thing is that he can take the punch of Avaler because he has a solid chin. But he needs to cover his face at this division because it's going to be very difficult for him if he will face fighters in the top 10.

So this person just climbed to a new division after his back to back losses to Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa. Although Magsayo has a powerful punch, his fighting style does have many flaws. If he wants to become a champion once more, he needs to change those bad habits.

Anyhow, it is good that he returned to the ring and won once more. Perhaps a couple of more matches and he gets a championship match. The title holders are not stable except for Navarette. But Navarrette already in his third division tenure, is beginning to exhibit some weaknesses that could be taken advantage of.

But still Navarette is solid as this division and I do not see any advantage of Mark Magsayo over the rest of the champions here. Navarette's volume and output might be too much for Magsayo and he is very open to counter and for sure Navarette will find that opening in their fight.

Joseph Cordina is a tall dude, while O'Shaquie Foster is very technical and no offense to the fans of Magsayo as I'm also a fan of him, but Foster is going to make a killing out of him if this face each other.

Not to drag Magsayo, but I also believe that this new division is really tough for him, though he won on his debut, and it creates noise and hype with the way he takes down his opponent, but in serious matter, those champs and top ranks' contenders will surely bring him difficulty to move forward.

Let's see how he can take this new journey and how far he can reach with the way he showcases his skills and talent.

Magsayo is very open to counters, but if the champions of this new division give him the chance, he will surely accept the challenge. Magsayo is unlikely to prevail over them, but he possesses a powerful punch that has the potential to eliminate them.

Regardless of Magsayo being open to counters, his jaw could hold except perhaps from Navarrette. The rest of the champions are not as powerful, but they cannot be denied for their skills. And if Magsayo does not have the stamina to stay dangerous the whole match, the champions will easily win.

I do agree, even if he won in his last fight, he got hit many times thru counters although he didn't take that much damage, but the flaw in his game was very obvious and he can't make the same mistakes with the champion here as he will be knockout most likely with the like of Navarette and other powerful punchers.

But if he just wanted to remain on top of the division and earn some good money in this career, he can stay with this division and fight some of the best non-champion. We might see him in one of the great fights but he will surely had a hard time to become a champion, IMHO.

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Mark Magsayo won his fight at super featherweight, 130 lbs, he beat Isaac Avaler via a vicious knockout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXfQiPR9v_A

Although there are still some loopholes in Magsayo here, as he was open for counter. But the good thing is that he can take the punch of Avaler because he has a solid chin. But he needs to cover his face at this division because it's going to be very difficult for him if he will face fighters in the top 10.

So this person just climbed to a new division after his back to back losses to Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa. Although Magsayo has a powerful punch, his fighting style does have many flaws. If he wants to become a champion once more, he needs to change those bad habits.

Anyhow, it is good that he returned to the ring and won once more. Perhaps a couple of more matches and he gets a championship match. The title holders are not stable except for Navarette. But Navarrette already in his third division tenure, is beginning to exhibit some weaknesses that could be taken advantage of.

But still Navarette is solid as this division and I do not see any advantage of Mark Magsayo over the rest of the champions here. Navarette's volume and output might be too much for Magsayo and he is very open to counter and for sure Navarette will find that opening in their fight.

Joseph Cordina is a tall dude, while O'Shaquie Foster is very technical and no offense to the fans of Magsayo as I'm also a fan of him, but Foster is going to make a killing out of him if this face each other.

Not to drag Magsayo, but I also believe that this new division is really tough for him, though he won on his debut, and it creates noise and hype with the way he takes down his opponent, but in serious matter, those champs and top ranks' contenders will surely bring him difficulty to move forward.

Let's see how he can take this new journey and how far he can reach with the way he showcases his skills and talent.

Magsayo is very open to counters, but if the champions of this new division give him the chance, he will surely accept the challenge. Magsayo is unlikely to prevail over them, but he possesses a powerful punch that has the potential to eliminate them.

Regardless of Magsayo being open to counters, his jaw could hold except perhaps from Navarrette. The rest of the champions are not as powerful, but they cannot be denied for their skills. And if Magsayo does not have the stamina to stay dangerous the whole match, the champions will easily win.

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Mark Magsayo won his fight at super featherweight, 130 lbs, he beat Isaac Avaler via a vicious knockout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXfQiPR9v_A

Although there are still some loopholes in Magsayo here, as he was open for counter. But the good thing is that he can take the punch of Avaler because he has a solid chin. But he needs to cover his face at this division because it's going to be very difficult for him if he will face fighters in the top 10.

So this person just climbed to a new division after his back to back losses to Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa. Although Magsayo has a powerful punch, his fighting style does have many flaws. If he wants to become a champion once more, he needs to change those bad habits.

Anyhow, it is good that he returned to the ring and won once more. Perhaps a couple of more matches and he gets a championship match. The title holders are not stable except for Navarette. But Navarrette already in his third division tenure, is beginning to exhibit some weaknesses that could be taken advantage of.

But still Navarette is solid as this division and I do not see any advantage of Mark Magsayo over the rest of the champions here. Navarette's volume and output might be too much for Magsayo and he is very open to counter and for sure Navarette will find that opening in their fight.

Joseph Cordina is a tall dude, while O'Shaquie Foster is very technical and no offense to the fans of Magsayo as I'm also a fan of him, but Foster is going to make a killing out of him if this face each other.

Not to drag Magsayo, but I also believe that this new division is really tough for him, though he won on his debut, and it creates noise and hype with the way he takes down his opponent, but in serious matter, those champs and top ranks' contenders will surely bring him difficulty to move forward.

Let's see how he can take this new journey and how far he can reach with the way he showcases his skills and talent.

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So if Bivol gets Canelo's 2nd fight with PBC I wonder if Benavidez will ever get his shot at the real title. If Canelo somehow beats Bivol in the rematch, I expect him to take Crawford as his last fight of the contract and go back to Matchroom.

I think it's only fair that there should be a trilogy for their fight. Bivol could have declined a rematch with Canelo after beating him, but he agreed to it. Therefore, if Canelo is a true warrior, he should give Bivol a chance to determine the better fighter between them. This can only be settled through another rematch.

They both playing the mind games I guess, Bivol wanted a rematch but Canelo chooses John Ryder and let Bivol look for a dance partner with less money on the line. So Canelo paly his part very good in this games, now after beating Charlo and moving out of the Matchroom contract, Bivol is left hanging. And then we heard that if there will be a rematch, it will be in terms of Canelo again which including Bivol going down to 168 lbs and with rehydration clause.

As far as Benavidez goes, yeah, me might not get his title shot against Canelo as Alvarez is now looking for the biggest paycheck that he can get before retiring. So Benavidez could chase Morell or even Bivol or Beterbiev.

The big paychecks for Canelo would be Bivol on light heavyweight or Benavidez. These others that you have mentioned will not cause much excitement from the fans, I reckon.

However, the biggest might be for Canelo to accept Bivol's challenge and fight him in super middleweight where Canelo will risk all of his championship belts!

I think Canelo is still the cash cow no matter how we look at it, either a DB fight or Bivol it will still make a lot of money. But it's just the question on why he would do Bivol at 168 lbs and then when rehydration clause? Doesn't make sense as he is the champion in that division unless he wanted to have that big advantage against Bivol. We might call it just to make it an even field for him.

But if he wanted to be really cemented his legacy, for me a rematch at 175 lbs will be the way for him. Not unless if he longer wanted more belt or if he thinks that he can't really beat Bivol at light heavyweight that's why he wanted the rematch as his best, 168 lbs wherein he is the undisputed.

It's funny when Canelo says he is the king and will choose who he fights next. So it's like an indirect answer that he won't fight Benavidez. But, indeed, Canelo is still the biggest cash cow in boxing because the numbers are consistent no matter who he fights. Because of that, corrupt boxing bodies are scared to impose their mandatories on him otherwise they will lose their % on every Canelo fight.

At Canelo's age, I doubt he is still looking for a legacy. He may rematch Bivol at 175 but he already became champion at that division. A rematch at 168 with a rehydration clause might get him revenge. But it is still very risky and I doubt he wins as I see Bivol as a small 175 fighter which means he can get to 168 without much of a problem and will once again school or even stop Canelo.

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Quote from: Getmon on December 10, 2023, 10:43:16 PM

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Mark Magsayo won his fight at super featherweight, 130 lbs, he beat Isaac Avaler via a vicious knockout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXfQiPR9v_A

Although there are still some loopholes in Magsayo here, as he was open for counter. But the good thing is that he can take the punch of Avaler because he has a solid chin. But he needs to cover his face at this division because it's going to be very difficult for him if he will face fighters in the top 10.

So this person just climbed to a new division after his back to back losses to Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa. Although Magsayo has a powerful punch, his fighting style does have many flaws. If he wants to become a champion once more, he needs to change those bad habits.

Yes, he did climb because his body might have a hard time hitting 126 lbs and it might have cause him to lost his fight against Rey Vargas. I do agree with the flaws, and so is many boxers as well. I think he did try to chance his style, but I guess he always revert back to his old style as shown in this fight (exposing his chin and overextending his shot).

Quote from: Getmon on December 10, 2023, 10:43:16 PM

Anyhow, it is good that he returned to the ring and won once more. Perhaps a couple of more matches and he gets a championship match. The title holders are not stable except for Navarette. But Navarrette already in his third division tenure, is beginning to exhibit some weaknesses that could be taken advantage of.

He needs more fight here for me, he can just go and fight the champion yet. He needs to slowly get up in ranks. His opponent is no known, has a bad record so it's just a tune up fight for him. Maybe fighting rank fighters in the top 5 before he can have a crack at the champion in this division, like Navarette.

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Quote from: Getmon on December 10, 2023, 10:43:16 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on December 10, 2023, 07:45:32 AM

Mark Magsayo won his fight at super featherweight, 130 lbs, he beat Isaac Avaler via a vicious knockout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXfQiPR9v_A

Although there are still some loopholes in Magsayo here, as he was open for counter. But the good thing is that he can take the punch of Avaler because he has a solid chin. But he needs to cover his face at this division because it's going to be very difficult for him if he will face fighters in the top 10.

So this person just climbed to a new division after his back to back losses to Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa. Although Magsayo has a powerful punch, his fighting style does have many flaws. If he wants to become a champion once more, he needs to change those bad habits.

Anyhow, it is good that he returned to the ring and won once more. Perhaps a couple of more matches and he gets a championship match. The title holders are not stable except for Navarette. But Navarrette already in his third division tenure, is beginning to exhibit some weaknesses that could be taken advantage of.

But still Navarette is solid as this division and I do not see any advantage of Mark Magsayo over the rest of the champions here. Navarette's volume and output might be too much for Magsayo and he is very open to counter and for sure Navarette will find that opening in their fight.

Joseph Cordina is a tall dude, while O'Shaquie Foster is very technical and no offense to the fans of Magsayo as I'm also a fan of him, but Foster is going to make a killing out of him if this face each other.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on December 10, 2023, 03:33:47 AM

Quote from: Hirose UK on December 09, 2023, 08:45:39 AM

That true because these two boxers definitely want big achievement in winning and showing that one of them deserves to be called true champion.
And of course Devin Haney will try as hard as possible to beat Regis Prograis so that the fight might reach the final round, only we will see Devin Haney holding the WBC Super Lightweight belt if the fight reaches the final round.
And the fight will take place tomorrow so we are just matter of no more than 24 hours away from seeing two fighters with various titles meet to fight for one belt.

Indeed both want something that could recognize them and will put them on top for sure Devin Haney wants a fighter that are at a level of success and he will not go fighting a fighter who could ruin his reputation and that is his undefeated status, while Regis Prograis wants a fighter on the top and this is for him to showcase his brilliant and technique in boxing and for sure Devin Haney is a qualified candidate that could surely showcase what he can truly do inside the ring, this fight is today at 09:00 PM ET on Tapology, for sure we can expect great action for this two warriors,

As I expected that Devin Haney would be able to win the fight and take the WBC Super Lightweight title from the hands of Regis Prograis, Haney won by unanimous decision from the referee decision 120-107, 120-107, and 120-107.
This is big achievement for Devin Haney because he managed to maintain the undefeated record he had so far and at the same time managed to add the WBC Super Lightweight title to the record of titles he has managed to control.
Watching their fight from the start, it was clear that Devin Haney dominated and Regis Prograis received lot of blows and even fell by knockdown in round four.
This is truly great fight.
congratulations for the win Devin Haney.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 09, 2023, 08:45:39 AM

After this we will again watch the fight for the WBC Flyweight which will pit the champion Julio Cesar Martinez against the challenger Angelino Cordova in his seventh title defense.
On the main card of the WBC event this time it is truly fight that is more than just a title fight because Julio Cesar Martinez will actually defend the title that he has held and won so far.
This fight is scheduled for December 16.
source : https://twitter.com/WBCBoxing/status/1732897605154169334?t=_HX8XX5M7OraHU8zpkyZpw&s=19

This event was also great and the only fight card that is a title fight and the victor will get the WBC World Flyweight Title this fight was in this event the event Morrell Jr. vs. Agbeko so let me make a breakdown of the event

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Yes Morrell Jr vs Agbeko is the main event and having fight on the main card of Julio Cesar Martinez VS Angelino Cordova in the fight for the WBC Flyweight belt will make this event even more interesting and could make it fight event that many people have been waiting.

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Quote from: Getmon on December 10, 2023, 10:43:16 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on December 10, 2023, 07:45:32 AM

Mark Magsayo won his fight at super featherweight, 130 lbs, he beat Isaac Avaler via a vicious knockout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXfQiPR9v_A

Although there are still some loopholes in Magsayo here, as he was open for counter. But the good thing is that he can take the punch of Avaler because he has a solid chin. But he needs to cover his face at this division because it's going to be very difficult for him if he will face fighters in the top 10.

So this person just climbed to a new division after his back to back losses to Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa. Although Magsayo has a powerful punch, his fighting style does have many flaws. If he wants to become a champion once more, he needs to change those bad habits.

What exactly are the bad habits do you see?
i see some of his weakness abut he got some power with both hands. I think if he could improve his stamina and more quickness in his combinations, he'll become a champion again. It's a good start for him, his ranking will easily improve due to his impressive win. Not sure what happen to his opponent now, hopefully he's okay but Magsayo did well here, very well.

Quote from: Getmon on December 10, 2023, 10:43:16 PM

Anyhow, it is good that he returned to the ring and won once more. Perhaps a couple of more matches and he gets a championship match. The title holders are not stable except for Navarette. But Navarrette already in his third division tenure, is beginning to exhibit some weaknesses that could be taken advantage of.

In the Jr. lightweight division, we have four champions.
https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings
O'Shaquie Foster - WBC
Lamont Roach - WBA
Joseph Cordina - IBF
Emanuel Navarrete - WBO

he could fight one of them if he'll got a chance to be in the championship stage once again. However, I'd be happy to see him fight with Emanuel Navarrete as the latter is probably the most popular among the champions.

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