[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 62.

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Quote from: Shamm on January 09, 2022, 07:17:58 PM

We can not say that only casimero is the strongest fighter in their division which is a Bantamweight we have still Donaire and Inoue they are strong boxers too.

Donaire and Inoue hold a different organization title:

Bantamweigh Division

WBO = Casimero
WBA / IBF = Inoue
WBC = Donaire

Butler is under WBO on which he will make an attempt to snatch the title to Casimero.

What will happen next?

- Inoue might jump to Superfeatherweight at 122lbs. No more Casimero vs Inoue there but instead Casimero vs Donaire unification match.
- Butler will win the fight against Casimero and it will now be Butler vs Inoue next. Cheesy

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Quote from: harizen on January 09, 2022, 06:58:38 PM

Poor Paul Butler. Always getting behind at this thread that is supposed to be his. Cheesy

It looks like that Casimero getting the crowd or just the fans of casimero will active here in this thread so that Butler will always be behind the topic. But you are right in this we all know that Paul Butler is the number 1 challenger at WBO Bantamweight for now and this is the good match against casimero.
We can not say that only casimero is the strongest fighter in their division which is a Bantamweight we have still Donaire and Inoue they are strong boxers too.

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Poor Paul Butler. Always getting behind at this thread that is supposed to be his. Cheesy

Anyways, enough of that Casimero vs Inoue speculation for now as without wining against Butler first, the book will be closed. Paul Butler is the number 1 challenger at WBO Bantamweight that's why it's a good mandated fight to settle everything on that division and to see if Casimero is really the strongest WBO Bantamweight currently.

There will be no top challengers left in WBO Bantamweight if Casimero will win on this. And that will be the time he can ask for a unification fight against Inoue who holds the WBA and IBF titles.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 08, 2022, 05:19:23 PM

Here is the press conference where it was revealed that John Riel Casimero was ordered not to participate in such foolishness, so instead of John Riel Casimero, Jayson Casimero step up on his stead,

Thanks for the share up buddy!

It is just right that Casimero itself didnt really accept such offer even he was ordered to do so bu instead his brother do goes for such fight.Its understandable that there are boxers

who doesnt really like to step up into their pride on dealing with something like this or simply talks about exhibition fights on where fighting someone which is a non boxer.

I have seen that battle of youtubers and its really laughable on that haring bangis guy. lol

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 09, 2022, 02:31:36 PM

Hopefully Inoue's camp will show interest back after the fight of Casimero. It's good for both of them to compete while they are still in their prime.

They might just be waiting for this fight to end. A lot of delay and times have been wasted because of this WBO order because if it's not for this, they've probably already boxed inside the ring.

Quote from: Fredomago on January 09, 2022, 02:31:36 PM

Maybe another Pacman-Marquez type of rivalries Tongue

Well, we're not going to see the same rivalry as these two legends but yeah, maybe this is going to build them the same popularity if they'll make this rivalry for real.

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 09, 2022, 10:01:06 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 09, 2022, 09:48:16 AM

Duke Micah engaged because he thinks he can take John Riel power in the early round and he himself was very confident that Casimero can't take his power that's why the fight was really a lot of fireworks in the beginning. But he was totally wrong as Casimero has a good chin and that he is the one who can't take the power as he was clearly knock down and bloodied in the nose forcing the referee to stop the fight although he protested it.

That's exactly what I saw, I'd love to see that kind of opponent again and I hope Butler would not doubt that he can take down Casimero. Maybe that's the reason why Inoue is not too confident if he will fight Casimero because he knows he has a strong chin and probably a strong body as well which is Inoue's target in most of the fights he won.

Every fighter though is confident about his abilities until they face someone who is better than them and that's why this sports is really exciting because it's you and between your opponents, no team mates to help you out, mano-a-mano. With that said, I don't think that Inoue is not that confident though against Inoue, on the contrary, I think he knows inside that Casimero will be a big opponent and a good test on his ability and I'm confident that this fight is going to be made after if Casimero wins this fight.

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Quote from: stadus on January 09, 2022, 11:16:39 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on January 09, 2022, 10:01:06 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 09, 2022, 09:48:16 AM

Duke Micah engaged because he thinks he can take John Riel power in the early round and he himself was very confident that Casimero can't take his power that's why the fight was really a lot of fireworks in the beginning. But he was totally wrong as Casimero has a good chin and that he is the one who can't take the power as he was clearly knock down and bloodied in the nose forcing the referee to stop the fight although he protested it.

That's exactly what I saw, I'd love to see that kind of opponent again and I hope Butler would not doubt that he can take down Casimero. Maybe that's the reason why Inoue is not too confident if he will fight Casimero because he knows he has a strong chin and probably a strong body as well which is Inoue's target in most of the fights he won.

That's just an speculation that Inoue is not confident to win against Casimero, but based on his record, we know that he is something special and his high KO rate is the evidence of that. You know, people will not stop speculating until these two will fight, so Inoue should give Casimero a chance to fight with him this year.

Correct! stats wise Inoue is very capable of knocking Casimero down, he prove that power from many fights that he fought but just like what's your opinion people will not stop speculating until the time that both fighters meet inside the ring, they can only prove something when they already dealing with it.

Hopefully Inoue's camp will show interest back after the fight of Casimero. It's good for both of them to compete while they are still in their prime.

Maybe another Pacman-Marquez type of rivalries Tongue

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Quote from: Russlenat on January 09, 2022, 10:01:06 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 09, 2022, 09:48:16 AM

Duke Micah engaged because he thinks he can take John Riel power in the early round and he himself was very confident that Casimero can't take his power that's why the fight was really a lot of fireworks in the beginning. But he was totally wrong as Casimero has a good chin and that he is the one who can't take the power as he was clearly knock down and bloodied in the nose forcing the referee to stop the fight although he protested it.

That's exactly what I saw, I'd love to see that kind of opponent again and I hope Butler would not doubt that he can take down Casimero. Maybe that's the reason why Inoue is not too confident if he will fight Casimero because he knows he has a strong chin and probably a strong body as well which is Inoue's target in most of the fights he won.

That's just an speculation that Inoue is not confident to win against Casimero, but based on his record, we know that he is something special and his high KO rate is the evidence of that. You know, people will not stop speculating until these two will fight, so Inoue should give Casimero a chance to fight with him this year.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 09, 2022, 09:48:16 AM

Duke Micah engaged because he thinks he can take John Riel power in the early round and he himself was very confident that Casimero can't take his power that's why the fight was really a lot of fireworks in the beginning. But he was totally wrong as Casimero has a good chin and that he is the one who can't take the power as he was clearly knock down and bloodied in the nose forcing the referee to stop the fight although he protested it.

That's exactly what I saw, I'd love to see that kind of opponent again and I hope Butler would not doubt that he can take down Casimero. Maybe that's the reason why Inoue is not too confident if he will fight Casimero because he knows he has a strong chin and probably a strong body as well which is Inoue's target in most of the fights he won.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 07, 2022, 11:17:47 PM

We will soon this fight, that is if Casimero will beat Butler simply as that.

Only if that simple. Butler is also not an easy opponent. We are just being biased here because Quadro Alas is our representative. Butler is also on the goal of reaching the high rank and will surely do everything to win. Just for others to have an idea, Butler is currently ranked 1st by the WBO that's why he was chosen to fight against the Champion Casimero.

But of course, we like Casimero to win. But don't take everything lightly.

Right, it's not that easy for Casimero, he really needs to focus on this fight because regardless on where the fight is going to happen, it will be very difficult or at least there will be a big challenge for him because Butler will not be an easy opponent.

And maybe during the actual fight we are still going to hold our breath until Casimero is declared the winner as many things can really happen in a fight.

I find it easy for Casimero because Butler is not Rigondeux who loves to run.

Based on Butler's previous fight, he is very aggressive and loves to challenge his opponent, so in that case, I see that the advantage is on Casimero because he is a good counter puncher. Maybe he will be in the news again after this fight if he will win via KO.

There is a good chance that Casimero will win by KO here specially if Butler will be engaging just like what Duke Micah did to Casimero. And it was really a fun fight in the beginning because you can see that both fighters is really intent of taking the heads of each other.

And hopefully this will be a similar fight and not like Rigo wherein the latter just play turtle and defense and doesn't want to engage Casimero toe to toe.

Duke Micah engaged because he thinks he can take John Riel power in the early round and he himself was very confident that Casimero can't take his power that's why the fight was really a lot of fireworks in the beginning. But he was totally wrong as Casimero has a good chin and that he is the one who can't take the power as he was clearly knock down and bloodied in the nose forcing the referee to stop the fight although he protested it.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 08, 2022, 05:42:07 PM

That's what we like to see for Butler to engage like he badly wants to win, running is not fun to watch and since the fans have waited this for so long, we should be entertained in this fight, regardless of who wins.

Actually, I want an engaging fight rather than a running fight, just like the Nonito Donaire VS Naoya Inoue that is an extremely engaging fight, in my opinion, you can see that they are clashing at one another given how strong Inoue's punch, I really love to see that again and if John Riel Casimero would fight Inoue I think we would see a fight just like that, and with this Casimero VS Butler fight, Casimero will likely to launch devastating blows first hand just like he did with Guillermo Rigondeaux fight.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on January 08, 2022, 05:42:07 PM

I'll search it in youtube, thanks for bringing the story here. Honestly, I don't know Casimero has a brother who is also a boxer? (correct me if I'm wrong) but if there's a battle, it will be like an exhibition fight of a popular youtuber against another, they seem to follow the Paul Brothers gimmick.

It's alright, sharing is caring actually, well technically Jayson Casimero is a professional boxer with two fights, unfortunately, both fights end up in a lost Sary Canonigo was on May 30, 2009, end up in Unanimous decision and Juan Purisima was on Oct. 02, 2009, end up with Majority decision and ever since he never has another professional fight again, but he is still training with his brother in their gym, so that dude still has a lot of firepower against a non-professional, and yes they seem to follow the Paul Brothers gimmick but with a promoter and company that backs them up.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 08, 2022, 10:09:59 AM

There is a good chance that Casimero will win by KO here specially if Butler will be engaging just like what Duke Micah did to Casimero. And it was really a fun fight in the beginning because you can see that both fighters is really intent of taking the heads of each other.

And hopefully this will be a similar fight and not like Rigo wherein the latter just play turtle and defense and doesn't want to engage Casimero toe to toe.

That's what we like to see for Butler to engage like he badly wants to win, running is not fun to watch and since the fans have waited this for so long, we should be entertained in this fight, regardless of who wins.

Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 08, 2022, 05:19:23 PM

Here is the press conference where it was revealed that John Riel Casimero was ordered not to participate in such foolishness, so instead of John Riel Casimero, Jayson Casimero step up on his stead,

I'll search it in youtube, thanks for bringing the story here. Honestly, I don't know Casimero has a brother who is also a boxer? (correct me if I'm wrong) but if there's a battle, it will be like an exhibition fight of a popular youtuber against another, they seem to follow the Paul Brothers gimmick.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 07, 2022, 08:24:38 PM

I'm not aware of this. Can you provide me with some links to read on?

If it's true, it doesn't look good for me that Casimero will participate in an exhibition match where in the first place, he has a medical issue that's why the fight against Butler delayed and spoiled the future plans of their respective career.

And I think it's prohibited as a titleholder to participate in such an event especially if there's a lineup of fights already? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not sure.

Sorry can not provide a link because of some issue regarding my campaign but it is popular on youtube you can search it if you know about the battle of YouTubers and if you search the keyword Haring Bangis vs John Riel Casimero or you can go to Makagago's Channel to see all stuff that has happened and I think this has happened after he is OK and healed up, and yes Jayson Casimero was the one who changed John Riel Casimero because the WBO did not let him participate, to fight the Non-Professional guy and I think this is all for the show you can surely tell that this is all just drama,

I have provided Screenshots so you would know that you are watching the actual video, and again sorry if I can't provide the links I think this is popular here in the Philippines for you to not know but certainly maybe you are not watching things like this.

This is his interview and talks about what he feels about his opponent, and in my opinion, he shouldn't need to care about fighting.

Here is the press conference where it was revealed that John Riel Casimero was ordered not to participate in such foolishness, so instead of John Riel Casimero, Jayson Casimero step up on his stead,

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 08, 2022, 08:54:44 AM

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 08, 2022, 02:31:47 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 07, 2022, 11:17:47 PM

We will soon this fight, that is if Casimero will beat Butler simply as that.

Only if that simple. Butler is also not an easy opponent. We are just being biased here because Quadro Alas is our representative. Butler is also on the goal of reaching the high rank and will surely do everything to win. Just for others to have an idea, Butler is currently ranked 1st by the WBO that's why he was chosen to fight against the Champion Casimero.

But of course, we like Casimero to win. But don't take everything lightly.

Right, it's not that easy for Casimero, he really needs to focus on this fight because regardless on where the fight is going to happen, it will be very difficult or at least there will be a big challenge for him because Butler will not be an easy opponent.

And maybe during the actual fight we are still going to hold our breath until Casimero is declared the winner as many things can really happen in a fight.

I find it easy for Casimero because Butler is not Rigondeux who loves to run.

Based on Butler's previous fight, he is very aggressive and loves to challenge his opponent, so in that case, I see that the advantage is on Casimero because he is a good counter puncher. Maybe he will be in the news again after this fight if he will win via KO.

There is a good chance that Casimero will win by KO here specially if Butler will be engaging just like what Duke Micah did to Casimero. And it was really a fun fight in the beginning because you can see that both fighters is really intent of taking the heads of each other.

And hopefully this will be a similar fight and not like Rigo wherein the latter just play turtle and defense and doesn't want to engage Casimero toe to toe.

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Quote from: Sanitough on January 08, 2022, 08:54:44 AM

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 07, 2022, 11:17:47 PM

We will soon this fight, that is if Casimero will beat Butler simply as that.

Only if that simple. Butler is also not an easy opponent. We are just being biased here because Quadro Alas is our representative. Butler is also on the goal of reaching the high rank and will surely do everything to win. Just for others to have an idea, Butler is currently ranked 1st by the WBO that's why he was chosen to fight against the Champion Casimero.

But of course, we like Casimero to win. But don't take everything lightly.

Right, it's not that easy for Casimero, he really needs to focus on this fight because regardless on where the fight is going to happen, it will be very difficult or at least there will be a big challenge for him because Butler will not be an easy opponent.

And maybe during the actual fight we are still going to hold our breath until Casimero is declared the winner as many things can really happen in a fight.

I find it easy for Casimero because Butler is not Rigondeux who loves to run.

Based on Butler's previous fight, he is very aggressive and loves to challenge his opponent, so in that case, I see that the advantage is on Casimero because he is a good counter puncher. Maybe he will be in the news again after this fight if he will win via KO.

Butler can be defeated by KO again but he also has a chance to beat Casimero if the champion will be careless. His counter-punching technique is very effective but he should not underestimate the power of Butler as he only had 2 loses of his 33 fights, and that means he is a great boxer.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 08, 2022, 08:43:54 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on January 08, 2022, 02:31:47 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 07, 2022, 11:17:47 PM

We will soon this fight, that is if Casimero will beat Butler simply as that.

Only if that simple. Butler is also not an easy opponent. We are just being biased here because Quadro Alas is our representative. Butler is also on the goal of reaching the high rank and will surely do everything to win. Just for others to have an idea, Butler is currently ranked 1st by the WBO that's why he was chosen to fight against the Champion Casimero.

But of course, we like Casimero to win. But don't take everything lightly.

Right, it's not that easy for Casimero, he really needs to focus on this fight because regardless on where the fight is going to happen, it will be very difficult or at least there will be a big challenge for him because Butler will not be an easy opponent.

And maybe during the actual fight we are still going to hold our breath until Casimero is declared the winner as many things can really happen in a fight.

I find it easy for Casimero because Butler is not Rigondeux who loves to run.

Based on Butler's previous fight, he is very aggressive and loves to challenge his opponent, so in that case, I see that the advantage is on Casimero because he is a good counter puncher. Maybe he will be in the news again after this fight if he will win via KO.

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 08, 2022, 02:31:47 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 07, 2022, 11:17:47 PM

We will soon this fight, that is if Casimero will beat Butler simply as that.

Only if that simple. Butler is also not an easy opponent. We are just being biased here because Quadro Alas is our representative. Butler is also on the goal of reaching the high rank and will surely do everything to win. Just for others to have an idea, Butler is currently ranked 1st by the WBO that's why he was chosen to fight against the Champion Casimero.

But of course, we like Casimero to win. But don't take everything lightly.

Right, it's not that easy for Casimero, he really needs to focus on this fight because regardless on where the fight is going to happen, it will be very difficult or at least there will be a big challenge for him because Butler will not be an easy opponent.

And maybe during the actual fight we are still going to hold our breath until Casimero is declared the winner as many things can really happen in a fight.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 07, 2022, 08:24:38 PM

I'm not aware of this. Can you provide me with some links to read on?

If it's true, it doesn't look good for me that Casimero will participate in an exhibition match where in the first place, he has a medical issue that's why the fight against Butler delayed and spoiled the future plans of their respective career.

And I think it's prohibited as a titleholder to participate in such an event especially if there's a lineup of fights already? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not sure.

I'm not aware of this too and knowing that Casimero didn't attend his scheduled weight-in with Butler due to medical reasons hearing about this kind of information is somewhat kind of alert news to the WBO but also to the boxing fans of Casimero because instead of having an exhibition bouts why did he not priority to fully recover himself, his fans are waiting to see him inside the ring and win against Butler so we may have the chance to expect a fight between him and Inoue. I don't only think it is prohibited for him as a titleholder but I also think that his doctor or attending physician will not be going to allow this too.

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It's better to be planned well again for the reschedule so that they'll maximize the profit for this match.

I do agree that it's better if the match will happen in the US so that there will be a lot of fans that would certainly watch the match whether live or with the PPV.

That's where money is flowing through PPVs since we're still in the pandemic and US is currently experiencing a surge. Hopefully, we get the update that we're waiting for this match the soonest.

PPV + tickets would be the most normal way for them to get more revenue which is understandable that they should really maximize possible source of it but there are circumstances which
it cant really be avoided on which they would needing to be postponed due to new variant or would be having some change of venue or some sort in related with delays.
Thing here is that the fight should really push through no matter what.It does only sucks when you do need to wait for more months.

They do make a lot of money from that.

And the situation is giving that advantage for the PPV because everyone wants to watch the fight while sitting back relax at their homes. To give an example how much revenue could be in PPV. Although it is incomparable to Pacquiao fights but let's just do it for the sake of idea.

Pacquiao vs Broner earned $30M just for the PPV. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manny_Pacquiao_vs._Adrien_Broner

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 08, 2022, 02:31:47 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on January 07, 2022, 11:17:47 PM

We will soon this fight, that is if Casimero will beat Butler simply as that.

Only if that simple. Butler is also not an easy opponent. We are just being biased here because Quadro Alas is our representative. Butler is also on the goal of reaching the high rank and will surely do everything to win. Just for others to have an idea, Butler is currently ranked 1st by the WBO that's why he was chosen to fight against the Champion Casimero.

But of course, we like Casimero to win. But don't take everything lightly.

Good point being on top. That's why he's been the first option to fight against the title holder.

Butler might have that power to compete, but not being biased here, Casimero already proved his capabilities. Those many
fights that he won convince the fans that he can still repeat it.

He still young and still in his prime. Everything will be settled though when the fight already decided..

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