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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

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Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’
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This means that Inoue is also monitoring this match of Casimero and probably have been disappointed on what happened. So it's in the hands of Inoue if he gets interested again to fight Casimero.

But there's still a chance I guess if ever some good and exciting match has been shown by Casimero.

They both still inside same division and the chance of facing each other is always there,

As long as they both handle a belt, the call for the fight will remain. We don't know if how long we need to wait
it's all on the promoters side.

Casimero just need to continue winning whoever fighter that will challenge him, it's just like Pacquiao and Mayweather
the fight happened after many talks behind two camps.

I hope it will not take more time before they will fight, now tha they are both are their prime, they have to give the fans a chance to witness a great fight. I believe that Inoue will still remain as the heavy favorite to win, so there's nothing to be afraid of fighting against an underrated champion.
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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

For further readings, you can check here:

Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’
Thanks!

This means that Inoue is also monitoring this match of Casimero and probably have been disappointed on what happened. So it's in the hands of Inoue if he gets interested again to fight Casimero.

But there's still a chance I guess if ever some good and exciting match has been shown by Casimero.

They both still inside same division and the chance of facing each other is always there,

As long as they both handle a belt, the call for the fight will remain. We don't know if how long we need to wait
it's all on the promoters side.

Casimero just need to continue winning whoever fighter that will challenge him, it's just like Pacquiao and Mayweather
the fight happened after many talks behind two camps.
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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

For further readings, you can check here:

Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’
Thanks!

This means that Inoue is also monitoring this match of Casimero and probably have been disappointed on what happened. So it's in the hands of Inoue if he gets interested again to fight Casimero.

But there's still a chance I guess if ever some good and exciting match has been shown by Casimero.
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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

For further readings, you can check here:

Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’

Losing an interest to fight a champion for a unification fight, that's odd. If he has a mentality like Canelo, he would fight anyone who is holding a belt to be an undisputed champion, but no, he is different because he is not a real champion who only cherry-pick his opponent, with this statement, I think I lose my trust with Inoue too.
Not really good to look at but its his behaviour and there's nothing we can do with it and its true that this is really not a good behaviour for a good boxer to have on specially on being a belt holder on which cherry picking out his opponents and wont really be tending out to fight on those boxers who are trying to snatch out the belt.

As a real champion then you would really be facing out no matter who it is and no matter what condition or situations those fighters do involved on.It seems that this guy is really that
too sensitive on things.

Im really amazed on how Inoue do fight but speaking of being too sensitive then same as yours im losing interest now.

Inoue calls himself a monster and yet he does not fight one of the best in his division, I'm so disappointed in him. Whatever Casimero said or has done, it should not affect losing his interest in fighting him, I mean he just has to do his job which is to beat anyone who challenges him as that's what champions do.

Casimero is right, he is the real monster now.
Casimero is indeed a monster but his only problem is his attitude and we don’t know the real effect of cancelling the match between Butler, and maybe this is the reason why Inoue can’t fight Casimero. Well, we all want to see these two to fight, let’s hope that in the future they can still have the match.
Its said that this guy is kind and a good man on real life and those trashtalks is just part on selling up his fights which is really very common as we do all know which we shouldnt really make out those judgement
or making out conclusion.

I agree into those sentiments above about being a monster on which Casimero do really get that title instead of Inoue basing on the behaviour that he's really showing off now.

People would find it not really appealing and would lost up interest and people who are anticipating for this big fight is becoming lit.
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Casimero is indeed a monster but his only problem is his attitude and we don’t know the real effect of cancelling the match between Butler, and maybe this is the reason why Inoue can’t fight Casimero. Well, we all want to see these two to fight, let’s hope that in the future they can still have the match.
This match has been cancelled so I guess, locking this thread is necessary since many are already talking about Inoue and Casimero match, though I also want them to see fighting but I don’t see that this is the right thread for that. Maybe, Casimero is still composing himself to be more fit next time, and probably the Inoue match can still happen.
No, it's not cancelled, it will continue as Casimero was not stripped with his belt, he is still the current WBO world bantamweight champion and Butler will remain as his challenger. The date of the fight after the postponement was not yet announced but this fight will happen.
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Casimero is indeed a monster but his only problem is his attitude and we don’t know the real effect of cancelling the match between Butler, and maybe this is the reason why Inoue can’t fight Casimero. Well, we all want to see these two to fight, let’s hope that in the future they can still have the match.
This match has been cancelled so I guess, locking this thread is necessary since many are already talking about Inoue and Casimero match, though I also want them to see fighting but I don’t see that this is the right thread for that. Maybe, Casimero is still composing himself to be more fit next time, and probably the Inoue match can still happen.
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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

For further readings, you can check here:

Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’

Losing an interest to fight a champion for a unification fight, that's odd. If he has a mentality like Canelo, he would fight anyone who is holding a belt to be an undisputed champion, but no, he is different because he is not a real champion who only cherry-pick his opponent, with this statement, I think I lose my trust with Inoue too.
Not really good to look at but its his behaviour and there's nothing we can do with it and its true that this is really not a good behaviour for a good boxer to have on specially on being a belt holder on which cherry picking out his opponents and wont really be tending out to fight on those boxers who are trying to snatch out the belt.

As a real champion then you would really be facing out no matter who it is and no matter what condition or situations those fighters do involved on.It seems that this guy is really that
too sensitive on things.

Im really amazed on how Inoue do fight but speaking of being too sensitive then same as yours im losing interest now.

Inoue calls himself a monster and yet he does not fight one of the best in his division, I'm so disappointed in him. Whatever Casimero said or has done, it should not affect losing his interest in fighting him, I mean he just has to do his job which is to beat anyone who challenges him as that's what champions do.

Casimero is right, he is the real monster now.
Casimero is indeed a monster but his only problem is his attitude and we don’t know the real effect of cancelling the match between Butler, and maybe this is the reason why Inoue can’t fight Casimero. Well, we all want to see these two to fight, let’s hope that in the future they can still have the match.
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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

For further readings, you can check here:

Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’

Losing an interest to fight a champion for a unification fight, that's odd. If he has a mentality like Canelo, he would fight anyone who is holding a belt to be an undisputed champion, but no, he is different because he is not a real champion who only cherry-pick his opponent, with this statement, I think I lose my trust with Inoue too.
Not really good to look at but its his behaviour and there's nothing we can do with it and its true that this is really not a good behaviour for a good boxer to have on specially on being a belt holder on which cherry picking out his opponents and wont really be tending out to fight on those boxers who are trying to snatch out the belt.

As a real champion then you would really be facing out no matter who it is and no matter what condition or situations those fighters do involved on.It seems that this guy is really that
too sensitive on things.

Im really amazed on how Inoue do fight but speaking of being too sensitive then same as yours im losing interest now.

Inoue calls himself a monster and yet he does not fight one of the best in his division, I'm so disappointed in him. Whatever Casimero said or has done, it should not affect losing his interest in fighting him, I mean he just has to do his job which is to beat anyone who challenges him as that's what champions do.

Casimero is right, he is the real monster now.
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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

For further readings, you can check here:

Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’

Losing an interest to fight a champion for a unification fight, that's odd. If he has a mentality like Canelo, he would fight anyone who is holding a belt to be an undisputed champion, but no, he is different because he is not a real champion who only cherry-pick his opponent, with this statement, I think I lose my trust with Inoue too.
Not really good to look at but its his behaviour and there's nothing we can do with it and its true that this is really not a good behaviour for a good boxer to have on specially on being a belt holder on which cherry picking out his opponents and wont really be tending out to fight on those boxers who are trying to snatch out the belt.

As a real champion then you would really be facing out no matter who it is and no matter what condition or situations those fighters do involved on.It seems that this guy is really that
too sensitive on things.

Im really amazed on how Inoue do fight but speaking of being too sensitive then same as yours im losing interest now.

Inoue may change his decision if Casimero will win this upcoming fight. Because even if he lost interest of fighting him, if Casimero emerges as winner, then, the talks of of fighting him will re-surface again. It is only a matter of time for boxing followers. So we need to see the outcome of this upcoming Casimero's fight. It is like the determining factor on what may happen next.
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Losing an interest to fight a champion for a unification fight, that's odd. If he has a mentality like Canelo, he would fight anyone who is holding a belt to be an undisputed champion, but no, he is different because he is not a real champion who only cherry-pick his opponent, with this statement, I think I lose my trust with Inoue too.

I'm not sure about the exact timeline and sequence but I think that statement was made because of the possible title strip of Casimero when he failed to show up on the weigh-in. But since everything is now properly fixed and WBO won't take the title of Casimero, the interest might be back on the Inoue's side. And that interest will be more intensify if Casimero will be done deal this fight against Butler.

Maybe by next month we're going to see the update for this match after the medical that Casimero has made. Any updates on both fighters?

As far as my own DYOR is concerned, I didn't see yet any updates regarding the fight, even on some Facebook sports page that is quick in giving updates. We are still in the early week of 2022 so it's understandable that we might not get an update yet.
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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

For further readings, you can check here:

Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’

Losing an interest to fight a champion for a unification fight, that's odd. If he has a mentality like Canelo, he would fight anyone who is holding a belt to be an undisputed champion, but no, he is different because he is not a real champion who only cherry-pick his opponent, with this statement, I think I lose my trust with Inoue too.
Not really good to look at but its his behaviour and there's nothing we can do with it and its true that this is really not a good behaviour for a good boxer to have on specially on being a belt holder on which cherry picking out his opponents and wont really be tending out to fight on those boxers who are trying to snatch out the belt.

As a real champion then you would really be facing out no matter who it is and no matter what condition or situations those fighters do involved on.It seems that this guy is really that
too sensitive on things.

Im really amazed on how Inoue do fight but speaking of being too sensitive then same as yours im losing interest now.
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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

For further readings, you can check here:

Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’

Losing an interest to fight a champion for a unification fight, that's odd. If he has a mentality like Canelo, he would fight anyone who is holding a belt to be an undisputed champion, but no, he is different because he is not a real champion who only cherry-pick his opponent, with this statement, I think I lose my trust with Inoue too.
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but it's the promoters who will decide. Money is now the basis of any fight. The generations of fighters are now controlled

We should also understand that without Arum's influence and popularity, a big fight will not happen. Even we know that Arum is after the money, he is no doubt the source of the money that the fight will generate. He is the only one capable of arranging big fights and we should live with that.

On the other hand, boxers also like to have a big paycheck unless willing to take a small cut.
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I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Yes, that was before but things have changed when Casimero failed to show up in their supposed weigh-in with Butler a day before the main event.

For further readings, you can check here:

Inoue won’t be taken by Casimero antics: ‘I lost interest in this guy’
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But if Inoue wants to fight Casimero then Donaire should wait the queue until he gets the rematch that he wants unless Inoue chooses him first.

That will depend on the result of Casimero vs Butler. We already know that Inoue is not interested anymore fighting Casimero. But who knows if the latter won the match against Butler, Inoue will show again an interest.

But let's not talk about Casimero winning here. Butler is also dedicated to winning in the fight and in his interview, he said that he will put all his power to defeat Casimero as he also has the goal.
I don't know how Inoue is no longer interested to fight against Casimero. But didn't he told before that he's okay to spar with him in the ring even before this match of Casimero against Butler came?

Butler has a chance but it's that many are liking and betting for Casimero.

But that was off-topic now. I'm expecting the same intensity when Casimero now faces Butler.

Still no official announcement regarding that but since everything is now back again in business, we can expect an update this month.
Maybe by next month we're going to see the update for this match after the medical that Casimero has made. Any updates on both fighters?
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Looks like for Casimero beating Butler is not a problem.
According to the betting odds, it looks like Casimero can make Butler's life horrible in this fight.
Look at the odds ;

He beat Tete, so there's no reason he can't beat Butler. The question here is, if Casimero will win, will Inoue would finally say yes to their big fight?  My guess is maybe 40% he'll accept because he is not so confident he can beat Casimero based on his actions and statements.
Casimero was underdog during that time but he proved that he is a road warrior, and no doubt he will win against Butler here. About Inoue, not sure if he is 100% ready to face Casimero but the latter is always ready to face him.



It's Arum who needs to deal with this. Is he ready to gamble his milking cow?

Inoue and Casimero have both a warrior hearts once the fight being call they are not afraid facing whoever in front of them

but it's the promoters who will decide. Money is now the basis of any fight. The generations of fighters are now controlled

by big promoters and handlers.

They need to wait till their handlers agreed with any contract between two fighters.

He should be, otherwise, Inoue's ranking will fall as people will get bored of following him if he does not fight the best in his division. I heard that some boxers under Top Rank promotion have a problem like this, their promoter does not want to give them a fight that they have a 50% chance of winning, they always make sure their fighters are a heavy favorite in a fight, especially those who are holding a belt.
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Looks like for Casimero beating Butler is not a problem.
According to the betting odds, it looks like Casimero can make Butler's life horrible in this fight.
Look at the odds ;

He beat Tete, so there's no reason he can't beat Butler. The question here is, if Casimero will win, will Inoue would finally say yes to their big fight?  My guess is maybe 40% he'll accept because he is not so confident he can beat Casimero based on his actions and statements.
Casimero was underdog during that time but he proved that he is a road warrior, and no doubt he will win against Butler here. About Inoue, not sure if he is 100% ready to face Casimero but the latter is always ready to face him.



It's Arum who needs to deal with this. Is he ready to gamble his milking cow?

Inoue and Casimero have both a warrior hearts once the fight being call they are not afraid facing whoever in front of them

but it's the promoters who will decide. Money is now the basis of any fight. The generations of fighters are now controlled

by big promoters and handlers.

They need to wait till their handlers agreed with any contract between two fighters.
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Looks like for Casimero beating Butler is not a problem.
According to the betting odds, it looks like Casimero can make Butler's life horrible in this fight.
Look at the odds ;

He beat Tete, so there's no reason he can't beat Butler. The question here is, if Casimero will win, will Inoue would finally say yes to their big fight?  My guess is maybe 40% he'll accept because he is not so confident he can beat Casimero based on his actions and statements.
Casimero was underdog during that time but he proved that he is a road warrior, and no doubt he will win against Butler here. About Inoue, not sure if he is 100% ready to face Casimero but the latter is always ready to face him.

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What we need to think is, if Casimero will lose in that match, a face-off against Naoya Inoue won't be possible.

Very much likely it's not going to happen If Casimero losses to Butler. Infact, Inoue has lost interest in facing Casimero after he got diagnosed with viral gastritis due to weight loss.
https://www.google.com/amp/news.abs-cbn.com/amp/sports/12/24/21/inoue-says-lost-interest-in-casimero-fight
I guess Inoue don't want to fight with an opponent who already has a reason why his opponent lost the fight. The Monster may want an opponent who is 100% healthy without any recent medical conditions relating to the fight preparations.
Let's just hope Casimero will win in this fight or else he'll miss the opportunity to fight with the Japanese rising boxing superstar.

I think that's just his excuse so he cannot fight Casimero. Even before, he wasn't so willing to fight Casimero as he always tell that it depends on his promoter and now he had that kind of statement, I doubt he is not a real monster as we all know.

Or another way to hype the possibilities of the upcoming fight between Casimero and Inoue.

Casimero just need to beat Butler and then again make some trash talks online to call the attention of Inoue.
We know how keen Casimero to have that chance fighting the Monster.

Everything will be possible after this fight. We just have to wait for this one, then discuss another once it was done.

Looks like for Casimero beating Butler is not a problem. He beat Tete, so there's no reason he can't beat Butler. The question here is, if Casimero will win, will Inoue would finally say yes to their big fight?  My guess is maybe 40% he'll accept because he is not so confident he can beat Casimero based on his actions and statements.
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What we need to think is, if Casimero will lose in that match, a face-off against Naoya Inoue won't be possible.

Very much likely it's not going to happen If Casimero losses to Butler. Infact, Inoue has lost interest in facing Casimero after he got diagnosed with viral gastritis due to weight loss.
https://www.google.com/amp/news.abs-cbn.com/amp/sports/12/24/21/inoue-says-lost-interest-in-casimero-fight
I guess Inoue don't want to fight with an opponent who already has a reason why his opponent lost the fight. The Monster may want an opponent who is 100% healthy without any recent medical conditions relating to the fight preparations.
Let's just hope Casimero will win in this fight or else he'll miss the opportunity to fight with the Japanese rising boxing superstar.

I think that's just his excuse so he cannot fight Casimero. Even before, he wasn't so willing to fight Casimero as he always tell that it depends on his promoter and now he had that kind of statement, I doubt he is not a real monster as we all know.

Or another way to hype the possibilities of the upcoming fight between Casimero and Inoue.

Casimero just need to beat Butler and then again make some trash talks online to call the attention of Inoue.
We know how keen Casimero to have that chance fighting the Monster.

Everything will be possible after this fight. We just have to wait for this one, then discuss another once it was done.
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