[Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 63.

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Quote from: Kemarit on January 07, 2022, 11:17:47 PM

We will soon this fight, that is if Casimero will beat Butler simply as that.

Only if that simple. Butler is also not an easy opponent. We are just being biased here because Quadro Alas is our representative. Butler is also on the goal of reaching the high rank and will surely do everything to win. Just for others to have an idea, Butler is currently ranked 1st by the WBO that's why he was chosen to fight against the Champion Casimero.

But of course, we like Casimero to win. But don't take everything lightly.

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Quote from: harizen on January 07, 2022, 07:25:48 PM

Quote from: Oasisman on January 07, 2022, 05:11:27 PM

I hate to say this, but I'm eager to see a Casimero vs Inoue fight and skip this fight instead lol.

As much as we want to witness it, not possible as many things happened by now. Right now, Casimero needs to finish all challenges on the way for a chance to have a bout against Inoue soon. He should also not release any ETA in advance to the public and let the organizers handle it. His camp should just be silent too whenever there's an ongoing negotiation on their target and just announce everything when all are officially settled. Basically, no spoiler alert lol.

We will soon this fight, that is if Casimero will beat Butler simply as that. So it's better for him to really concentrate on Butler first and not be affected by Inoue at the back of his mind as it might cause some distractions on him.

And once he win here, then he can go and tell the public that he wanted to fight Inoue. And it will be on Bob Arum's court to respond to him/them. So now yeah, no spoiler alert, finish his business first with Butler.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on January 07, 2022, 08:03:43 PM

John Riel Casimero has an exhibition match with a non-boxer here in The Phillippines but the WBO has written a letter that John Riel Casimero can not show up in any fighting event although it is not called boxing the same method of rules is still applicable in that fight,

I'm not aware of this. Can you provide me with some links to read on?

If it's true, it doesn't look good for me that Casimero will participate in an exhibition match where in the first place, he has a medical issue that's why the fight against Butler delayed and spoiled the future plans of their respective career.

And I think it's prohibited as a titleholder to participate in such an event especially if there's a lineup of fights already? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not sure.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 07, 2022, 05:11:27 PM

I really though Casimero was stripped off his belt after I heard the new it was cancelled, and I immediately lost hope for Casimero to fight Inoue at that time. Fortunately they will still pursue this fight, which is the right thing to do.
I guess when an update comes out the fight would be like 2 months after the release of the update. So, this could be a longer wait for the fans.
I hate to say this, but I'm eager to see a Casimero vs Inoue fight and skip this fight instead lol.

John Riel Casimero can not fight anyone at the moment other than Paul Butler, he needs to settle this fight first because the WBO official is not letting him and this is an ordered fight, John Riel Casimero has an exhibition match with a non-boxer here in The Phillippines but the WBO has written a letter that John Riel Casimero can not show up in any fighting event although it is not called boxing the same method of rules is still applicable in that fight, so John Riel Casimero would be replaced by his brother Jayson Casimero in his stead, this goes to show how serious the WBO is in their order that Casimero can not show in any fighting even if he could not settle first a fight with Paul Butler if he would pursue other fights he will be stripped of the championship and belt.

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Quote from: Oasisman on January 07, 2022, 05:11:27 PM

I hate to say this, but I'm eager to see a Casimero vs Inoue fight and skip this fight instead lol.

As much as we want to witness it, not possible as many things happened by now. Right now, Casimero needs to finish all challenges on the way for a chance to have a bout against Inoue soon. He should also not release any ETA in advance to the public and let the organizers handle it. His camp should just be silent too whenever there's an ongoing negotiation on their target and just announce everything when all are officially settled. Basically, no spoiler alert lol.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 07, 2022, 08:37:25 AM

Unfortunately, there are still no updates on the fight. And maybe yes, both parties are negotiating another venue and hopefully it will be in the US as we all know that it is where the money is as far as live gates and PPV and I think this will go on a PPV as this is a championship fight. So just wait boxing fans, I know that everyone is excited to see Casimero in the ring again and hopefully retains his belt so that a Inoue class is imminent.

I really though Casimero was stripped off his belt after I heard the new it was cancelled, and I immediately lost hope for Casimero to fight Inoue at that time. Fortunately they will still pursue this fight, which is the right thing to do.
I guess when an update comes out the fight would be like 2 months after the release of the update. So, this could be a longer wait for the fans.
I hate to say this, but I'm eager to see a Casimero vs Inoue fight and skip this fight instead lol.

This fight will not be skipped because it's a mandatory fight for Casimero, if he wants to fight Inoue, he has to take care of Butler first which I think it will not be hard since he beat the fighter who KO Butler. I know Casimero can also KO Butler, I guess that would be a nice warm-up for him before a big fight against Inoue.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 07, 2022, 08:37:25 AM

Unfortunately, there are still no updates on the fight. And maybe yes, both parties are negotiating another venue and hopefully it will be in the US as we all know that it is where the money is as far as live gates and PPV and I think this will go on a PPV as this is a championship fight. So just wait boxing fans, I know that everyone is excited to see Casimero in the ring again and hopefully retains his belt so that a Inoue class is imminent.

I really though Casimero was stripped off his belt after I heard the new it was cancelled, and I immediately lost hope for Casimero to fight Inoue at that time. Fortunately they will still pursue this fight, which is the right thing to do.
I guess when an update comes out the fight would be like 2 months after the release of the update. So, this could be a longer wait for the fans.
I hate to say this, but I'm eager to see a Casimero vs Inoue fight and skip this fight instead lol.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 07, 2022, 08:37:25 AM

Unfortunately, there are still no updates on the fight. And maybe yes, both parties are negotiating another venue and hopefully it will be in the US as we all know that it is where the money is as far as live gates and PPV and I think this will go on a PPV as this is a championship fight.

I guess the promoter is just making sure that Casimero is 100% recovered already when they set the fight date. No schedule yet but I'm optimistic it will not take long for this fight to finally realize, I'm guessing that we will see it before April this year.

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So just wait boxing fans, I know that everyone is excited to see Casimero in the ring again and hopefully retains his belt so that a Inoue class is imminent.

I hope Inoue is excited too,

.. unfortunately, his statement doesn't look like he is waiting for Casimero, I'm not sure this fight will happen when the beast will chicken out.

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Quote from: sunsilk on January 07, 2022, 04:58:11 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on January 07, 2022, 08:37:25 AM

Unfortunately, there are still no updates on the fight. And maybe yes, both parties are negotiating another venue and hopefully it will be in the US as we all know that it is where the money is as far as live gates and PPV and I think this will go on a PPV as this is a championship fight. So just wait boxing fans, I know that everyone is excited to see Casimero in the ring again and hopefully retains his belt so that a Inoue class is imminent.

It's better to be planned well again for the reschedule so that they'll maximize the profit for this match.

I do agree that it's better if the match will happen in the US so that there will be a lot of fans that would certainly watch the match whether live or with the PPV.

That's where money is flowing through PPVs since we're still in the pandemic and US is currently experiencing a surge. Hopefully, we get the update that we're waiting for this match the soonest.

PPV + tickets would be the most normal way for them to get more revenue which is understandable that they should really maximize possible source of it but there are circumstances which
it cant really be avoided on which they would needing to be postponed due to new variant or would be having some change of venue or some sort in related with delays.
Thing here is that the fight should really push through no matter what.It does only sucks when you do need to wait for more months.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 07, 2022, 08:37:25 AM

Unfortunately, there are still no updates on the fight. And maybe yes, both parties are negotiating another venue and hopefully it will be in the US as we all know that it is where the money is as far as live gates and PPV and I think this will go on a PPV as this is a championship fight. So just wait boxing fans, I know that everyone is excited to see Casimero in the ring again and hopefully retains his belt so that a Inoue class is imminent.

It's better to be planned well again for the reschedule so that they'll maximize the profit for this match.

I do agree that it's better if the match will happen in the US so that there will be a lot of fans that would certainly watch the match whether live or with the PPV.

That's where money is flowing through PPVs since we're still in the pandemic and US is currently experiencing a surge. Hopefully, we get the update that we're waiting for this match the soonest.

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Unfortunately, there are still no updates on the fight. And maybe yes, both parties are negotiating another venue and hopefully it will be in the US as we all know that it is where the money is as far as live gates and PPV and I think this will go on a PPV as this is a championship fight. So just wait boxing fans, I know that everyone is excited to see Casimero in the ring again and hopefully retains his belt so that a Inoue class is imminent.

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Quote from: harizen on January 04, 2022, 06:02:30 PM

Quote from: samcrypto on January 03, 2022, 05:43:07 PM

This match has been cancelled so I guess, locking this thread is necessary since many are already talking about Inoue and Casimero match, though I also want them to see fighting but I don’t see that this is the right thread for that.

There are lots of updates already posted here that the fight will push if you browse a few pages back. It's not canceled and Casimero retains the WBO Title after submitting the medical proofs stating that what happened to Casimero is valid. Inoue became a part of the discussion because they are linked with each other and it can't be avoided to not mention the monster's name here.

While the fight will now push through, there's still no official announcement of when the will be rescheduled date and that's what everyone is waiting for.

Yeah, maybe the promotions are looking for a good venue because this mandatory fights is supposed to happen on Butler's backyard. But due to Omicron and the cancellation, maybe the original venue is no longer available and they have to reserved it in advance if they want the fight to be still held on that place.

Nevertheless, this fight is really a go again and they should be training by now. We should just wait for the official announcement, and hopefully this month there will be some direction already.

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Still makes sense.

But these words are overwhelming the crowd and they know what they're saying. Before it was Casimero and both of them are really interested in fighting Inoue and so Inoue does.

However, it has changed due to the policies that the WBO has given to Casimero and it probably had affected Inoue's reasoning but you're right, the possibility is still there.

Being on same division then just as said that it would be inevitable for these two to meet up and as said the promoters or organizers do sees the potential that they could pull off if this fight would happen.

This isnt talking about pride or whatsoever but talking mainly in revenue or profits that would be generate with this fight.As a boxing fan then this fight isnt something that you could resist on.

But cant really be denied that as days pass by which things becomes even more boring and interest is gradually depleting down.

They would need to assess if there's a demand for their match and if there is, maybe their promoter would decide that they should have a match.

But AFAIK, there's still a possibility that the boxer could decline such offer if he finds it not comfortable to him unless it's another order that they can't decline just like for this match of Casimero and Butler.

You do talk about mandatory matches on which boxers couldnt really able to resist nor decline but on the time comes where Casimero and Inoue would need to clash on then i dont see

the reason on both boxers or the promoters would really make out some delays or for it not to happen.They do know that money or revenue is on here which
they couldnt just slip it away or losing that chance since we know that there's a high demand for this fight.

Just like this match.

It was mandatory and ordered by the WBO and that's what I'm saying. Whether they like it or not but there's an order that they can't reject, they have to put it in the ring.

The promoters surely see the demand for this match but hopefully, things will escalate first and this match ends.

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Still makes sense.

But these words are overwhelming the crowd and they know what they're saying. Before it was Casimero and both of them are really interested in fighting Inoue and so Inoue does.

However, it has changed due to the policies that the WBO has given to Casimero and it probably had affected Inoue's reasoning but you're right, the possibility is still there.

Being on same division then just as said that it would be inevitable for these two to meet up and as said the promoters or organizers do sees the potential that they could pull off if this fight would happen.

This isnt talking about pride or whatsoever but talking mainly in revenue or profits that would be generate with this fight.As a boxing fan then this fight isnt something that you could resist on.

But cant really be denied that as days pass by which things becomes even more boring and interest is gradually depleting down.

They would need to assess if there's a demand for their match and if there is, maybe their promoter would decide that they should have a match.

But AFAIK, there's still a possibility that the boxer could decline such offer if he finds it not comfortable to him unless it's another order that they can't decline just like for this match of Casimero and Butler.

You do talk about mandatory matches on which boxers couldnt really able to resist nor decline but on the time comes where Casimero and Inoue would need to clash on then i dont see

the reason on both boxers or the promoters would really make out some delays or for it not to happen.They do know that money or revenue is on here which
they couldnt just slip it away or losing that chance since we know that there's a high demand for this fight.

I hope the Casimero vs Inoue would become a mandatory fight, but since they are both champions, I can't expect it will happen unless they'll be pressured by the fans and the promoters are willing to risk their best fighter. I hope one day it will happen, not just pure talk but actions as well.

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Quote from: boyptc on January 04, 2022, 05:53:40 PM

Quote from: Hamphser on January 04, 2022, 04:52:17 PM

Quote from: boyptc on January 04, 2022, 03:44:59 PM

Still makes sense.

But these words are overwhelming the crowd and they know what they're saying. Before it was Casimero and both of them are really interested in fighting Inoue and so Inoue does.

However, it has changed due to the policies that the WBO has given to Casimero and it probably had affected Inoue's reasoning but you're right, the possibility is still there.

Being on same division then just as said that it would be inevitable for these two to meet up and as said the promoters or organizers do sees the potential that they could pull off if this fight would happen.

This isnt talking about pride or whatsoever but talking mainly in revenue or profits that would be generate with this fight.As a boxing fan then this fight isnt something that you could resist on.

But cant really be denied that as days pass by which things becomes even more boring and interest is gradually depleting down.

They would need to assess if there's a demand for their match and if there is, maybe their promoter would decide that they should have a match.

But AFAIK, there's still a possibility that the boxer could decline such offer if he finds it not comfortable to him unless it's another order that they can't decline just like for this match of Casimero and Butler.

You do talk about mandatory matches on which boxers couldnt really able to resist nor decline but on the time comes where Casimero and Inoue would need to clash on then i dont see

the reason on both boxers or the promoters would really make out some delays or for it not to happen.They do know that money or revenue is on here which
they couldnt just slip it away or losing that chance since we know that there's a high demand for this fight.

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Quote from: samcrypto on January 03, 2022, 05:43:07 PM

This match has been cancelled so I guess, locking this thread is necessary since many are already talking about Inoue and Casimero match, though I also want them to see fighting but I don’t see that this is the right thread for that.

There are lots of updates already posted here that the fight will push if you browse a few pages back. It's not canceled and Casimero retains the WBO Title after submitting the medical proofs stating that what happened to Casimero is valid. Inoue became a part of the discussion because they are linked with each other and it can't be avoided to not mention the monster's name here.

While the fight will now push through, there's still no official announcement of when the will be rescheduled date and that's what everyone is waiting for.

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Quote from: Hamphser on January 04, 2022, 04:52:17 PM

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Still makes sense.

But these words are overwhelming the crowd and they know what they're saying. Before it was Casimero and both of them are really interested in fighting Inoue and so Inoue does.

However, it has changed due to the policies that the WBO has given to Casimero and it probably had affected Inoue's reasoning but you're right, the possibility is still there.

Being on same division then just as said that it would be inevitable for these two to meet up and as said the promoters or organizers do sees the potential that they could pull off if this fight would happen.

This isnt talking about pride or whatsoever but talking mainly in revenue or profits that would be generate with this fight.As a boxing fan then this fight isnt something that you could resist on.

But cant really be denied that as days pass by which things becomes even more boring and interest is gradually depleting down.

They would need to assess if there's a demand for their match and if there is, maybe their promoter would decide that they should have a match.

But AFAIK, there's still a possibility that the boxer could decline such offer if he finds it not comfortable to him unless it's another order that they can't decline just like for this match of Casimero and Butler.

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Quote from: Pamadar on January 04, 2022, 11:07:00 AM

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Thanks!

This means that Inoue is also monitoring this match of Casimero and probably have been disappointed on what happened. So it's in the hands of Inoue if he gets interested again to fight Casimero.

But there's still a chance I guess if ever some good and exciting match has been shown by Casimero.

They both still inside same division and the chance of facing each other is always there,

As long as they both handle a belt, the call for the fight will remain. We don't know if how long we need to wait
it's all on the promoters side.

Casimero just need to continue winning whoever fighter that will challenge him, it's just like Pacquiao and Mayweather
the fight happened after many talks behind two camps.

Still makes sense.

But these words are overwhelming the crowd and they know what they're saying. Before it was Casimero and both of them are really interested in fighting Inoue and so Inoue does.

However, it has changed due to the policies that the WBO has given to Casimero and it probably had affected Inoue's reasoning but you're right, the possibility is still there.

Being on same division then just as said that it would be inevitable for these two to meet up and as said the promoters or organizers do sees the potential that they could pull off if this fight would happen.

This isnt talking about pride or whatsoever but talking mainly in revenue or profits that would be generate with this fight.As a boxing fan then this fight isnt something that you could resist on.

But cant really be denied that as days pass by which things becomes even more boring and interest is gradually depleting down.

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Quote from: Pamadar on January 04, 2022, 11:07:00 AM

Quote from: boyptc on January 03, 2022, 07:29:10 PM

Thanks!

This means that Inoue is also monitoring this match of Casimero and probably have been disappointed on what happened. So it's in the hands of Inoue if he gets interested again to fight Casimero.

But there's still a chance I guess if ever some good and exciting match has been shown by Casimero.

They both still inside same division and the chance of facing each other is always there,

As long as they both handle a belt, the call for the fight will remain. We don't know if how long we need to wait
it's all on the promoters side.

Casimero just need to continue winning whoever fighter that will challenge him, it's just like Pacquiao and Mayweather
the fight happened after many talks behind two camps.

Still makes sense.

But these words are overwhelming the crowd and they know what they're saying. Before it was Casimero and both of them are really interested in fighting Inoue and so Inoue does.

However, it has changed due to the policies that the WBO has given to Casimero and it probably had affected Inoue's reasoning but you're right, the possibility is still there.

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but Inoue's camp is staying away from Casimero, that may ruin the Monster's Undisputed record.

No way Inoue's camp will stay away or avoid Casimero.

It's just reasonable for Inoue to ignore Casimero now because of some event that happened recently.

If Casimero wants Inoue to talk again, he should win against Butler first.

I think they consider Casimero as a threat, and we all know that Inoue's manager wants to protect his cash cow so we may have the impression that Inoue is avoiding Casimero. But I honestly think that Inoue wanted to fight Casimero it's that Bob Arum is the one trying to not make the fight happen and that is bad for us boxing fans.

However, they can't really avoid Casimero in the long run, sooner or later Inoue will run out of opponents and on the contrary it will back fire on him if he/they totally avoided Casimero in the future.

I think this is something imminent, and any type of evation the fans notice, honestly whatever the reason, the fight that many expect is that, Casimero is obviously the favorite for many, on the other hand if Inoue does not want or his manager is avoiding the fight to get more money with other opponents is another case, although it is not very well seen because fans and true lovers of boxing like to see more action and things that are good, I think that in 2022 they should cover all those needs.

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