Topic: [Boxing]: Sultan vs Butler - WBO Bantamweight Interim title fight. - page 65. (Read 9125 times)

I think that's just his excuse so he cannot fight Casimero. Even before, he wasn't so willing to fight Casimero as he always tell that it depends on his promoter and now he had that kind of statement, I doubt he is not a real monster as we all know.

Very much likely it's not going to happen If Casimero losses to Butler. Infact, Inoue has lost interest in facing Casimero after he got diagnosed with viral gastritis due to weight loss.
https://www.google.com/amp/news.abs-cbn.com/amp/sports/12/24/21/inoue-says-lost-interest-in-casimero-fight
I guess Inoue don't want to fight with an opponent who already has a reason why his opponent lost the fight. The Monster may want an opponent who is 100% healthy without any recent medical conditions relating to the fight preparations.
Let's just hope Casimero will win in this fight or else he'll miss the opportunity to fight with the Japanese rising boxing superstar.

Donaire have the upperhand on fighting Inoue first because he had done his part of defeating Gaballo and Inoue also disposed his opponent last year while Casimero is really struggling his way to fight Butler so i think the scenario here is if Casimero wins, he have to wait for the winner of Inoue-Donaire2 which is very probable considering that Donaire have a good relationship with Richard Schaefer, the president of Probellum.

Inoue has lost his interest on fighting Casimero, if ever the two would meet in the future, it is just because of the belt that Casimero held which the latter should defend against Butler which i think not much of a threat to his belt. Weight issue is the real opponent of Quadro Alas thus far.

That is correct. @Viscore should watch how intense the fight is between Inoue and Donaire where after the fight, you will request right away of the rematch. Donaire, even out of his prime still has that knockout power that even a monster Inoue struggles with. They are both suffered injuries after the fight and it was bloodied.

But that was off-topic now. I'm expecting the same intensity when Casimero now faces Butler.

Still no official announcement regarding that but since everything is now back again in business, we can expect an update this month.

That will depend on the result of Casimero vs Butler. We already know that Inoue is not interested anymore fighting Casimero. But who knows if the latter won the match against Butler, Inoue will show again an interest.

But let's not talk about Casimero winning here. Butler is also dedicated to winning in the fight and in his interview, he said that he will put all his power to defeat Casimero as he also has the goal.

A rematch is a rematch.

Just like with Manny Pacquiao and other boxers who have lost to their first match, they're asking for a rematch. That's what boxing is and if Donaire asks for a rematch, it's on Inoue if he's going to answer that.

But if Inoue wants to fight Casimero then Donaire should wait the queue until he gets the rematch that he wants unless Inoue chooses him first.

The reason why others want a rematch between Donaire and Inoue is that in their 1st fight, the latter really struggle to win. It's the first time in Inoue's career that he received lots of fatal blows, injuries, and being sent to hospital after the fight for checkings. To conclude everything, a rematch between them is a must.

Back to the topic, let's admit that we are all biased here thinking Quadro Alas will easily win this fight but not for me. Butler is a real deal and chances of upset are still possible. I just hope Casimero will not just think of fighting Inoue as his target and focus on the current one. He really needs to pull a win for Inoue's camp to become interested again in dealing with him.

We cant make out conclusions yet until the fight is over and as said that upsets could really happen thats why we shouldnt really be that confident on our bets even if we do stick out with favorites
which is Casimero but we shouldnt really cross out the probabilities.

Most of fights now had been postponed for various reasons neither some injury or the most common which is due to new variant of covid which do really make out these kind of situations.

Although things could really happen but the most important thing is that these fights would really push through no matter what and we are all excited with this.

Yes, Naoya is a genuine fighter Nonito Donaire did struggle because he tasted the liver blow of Naoya Inoue, this brings Donaire in being aware that the liver blow of the monster is not like any other punch, it will surely leave him in agony, but knowing Nonito Donaire he surely gives heart in every fight he does, and right now Doinare has won again and this time with a liver shot the same punch Naoya Inoue gave to Nonito, against Reymart Gaballo and I surely love to watch their fight again, and if Casimero would sure fight Inoue it will be a great and fun fight to watch because just like Nonito Donaire John Riel Casimero will not back out and will surely trade punches with Naoya Inoue.


Well, were just excited about what kind of fight they can give us when the two did clash, but it could surely wait because John Riel Casimero needs to fight first Paul Butler and needs to win against him, to truly say that he is a worthy opponent for Naoya Inoue that is just 28 year old, to the 31 Casimero.


He can sure demand a higher pay if he wants, but I think this fight needs to be settled Casimero and Inoue is scheduled to fight back on April 25, 2020, to a unification clash of the Bantamweight Championship but because of Covid-19 Casimero then just fought Duke Micah, in a title defense back on September 26, 2020.

Of course, we don't want to see that but anything could happen, we sure are biased because most of us are supporting Casimero here but we also cannot deny the possibility that Butler could also pull an upset here, at least we are ready and open for what is going to happen next in case Casimero will fail to defend the title.

Obviously, Casimero is the one calling Inoue out in public, so to keep us interested in this fight, he needs to win against Butler in their fight. Although our hope our dose when Casimero got sick and almost strip of his belt but thankfully he was reinstated because he has a medical proof that indeed he can't make it to the weigh in and the fight. So Casimero will not take his chances for granted again and will shoot for a big win against Butler and then chase Inoue or Donaire for that matter.

Don't think of the possibility that there will be no more hype between the two because Filipinos won't be interested to follow Inoue anymore if no Filipino boxer will fight him, yes there's Donaire but he is not anymore in his prime and he already loss to Inoue before, so what to expect in the rematch?

Exactly, no more Casimero vs Inoue if he loses in this fight, it would only be Inoue vs Donaire 2. He has to win this and I'm confident that they will succeed as he is heavily favored to win this fight,  and Butler is also confident as he is aiming for a belt so he didn't accept the replacement, so this fight is really interesting for everyone.

^^ But the hype will not be there for a Casimero vs Inoue fight if by chance Casimero losses against Butler here. So this fight is very important for Casimero as much as to Butler and with that, this will really be a banger fight.

Remember that Butler didn't accept the replacement fighter in Joseph Agbeko because his goal is to become a champion. And he can only did it if he beat the champion itself in Casimero. And now that he has been given another chance by the WBO, this fight will really be very good not just in paper as both needed to win here.

Everyone is rushed seeing Casimero vs Inoue because they like the chance of Casimero against the Monster. I mean Casimero packs a mean power of both hands, and it might look awkward but he has proven that he can knock out everyone in this division, including Butler that he will be facing soon.


Who knows, maybe Inoue's team thinks that Casimero has been soften by the lost and might still be willing to face him although obviously Inoue will be the A-side and can demand more money for this fight.

When you say, Naoya Inoue, he is one of the great boxers in their division like you said even the veteran Nonito Donaire struggled a lot when they fight out counter puncher Nonito did not finish him in early-round the stamina of Inoue is like a steal very strong even a hard punch by his opponents it looks like nothing gonna hit.
But if the time will come Casimero vs Inoue it's a big fight for our fellow Filipino and I think he has a chance to win that match as Casimero is like Inoue. Casimero is a very strong fighter and he can fight against those strong fighter as well.

Everyone is rushed on seeing Casimero facing Naoya Inoue. We just need patience as if Casimero really has that dominance, winning against Butler should not be a problem. On the other hand, Butler is also dedicated not to be beaten easily by the Favorite on that match which is Casimero.

What we need to think is, if Casimero will lose in that match, a face-off against Naoya Inoue won't be possible.

I definitely like to see a Casimero VS Inoue fight, and yes if he would be successful in Paul Butler fight there is no doubt Naoya Inoue is a great big fight for John Riel Casimero, and even though I am a Filipino and I like Casimero, I really like Naoya Inoue as a boxer as well, pretty much that fight with the Flash Nonito Donaire was pretty outstanding, both fighters have shown real heart but in this fight Inoue VS Casimero I see a lot of potentials for John Riel Casimero to win, both are a heavy puncher, has skills but the thing that Casimero need to look out on Inoue was his liver shots that devastates different boxer that encounters it, even Donaire has struggled from it,


Many are saying those things about him, but these are all speculation, and no further evidence, and are all hearsay on different camps, and actually, I like both fighters their styles and their toughness inside the ring, but you are right 1 more fight for Casimero and if he's going to beat Paul Butler that I think he can sure take on, I really think that the Paul Butler VS John Riel Casimero fight will end up in a Knockout.

Correct. In the first place, there's already an official between Inoue and Casimero. Instead of postponement, they decided to cancel it for good. But I'm sure it doesn't have to do with Inoue avoiding Casimero. What I mean by that is, when unification match-up comes and mandate, there's no way Inoue will avoid Casimero at all cost.

Casimero vs Inoue will happen. The promoters do think that Casimero needs to build a hype first and that will happen when he won against Butler.

You have a point mate, promoters are destroying this sport. I don't get the idea on why they don't allow their boxers to fight the best. Inoue vs Casimero could have been done a long time ago to clear this issue but somehow Top Rank is keeping Inoue out of Casimero's reach  .


He has already decided mate, Crawford is not with Top Rank anymore.


https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/11/21/22794490/terence-crawford-leaving-top-rank-bob-arum-couldnt-secure-spence-fight-contract-boxing-news-2021