I know this match was canceled and because John Riel Casimero was taken to the hospital because of viral gastritis, and I think that this fight was rescheduled so let's just wait on what date it will be this time, but I think this will be the next year 2022,
Right now John Riel Casimeron is alright and both of them are going on with their training until the next bout would be announced, and for all Filipinos, that know about the battle of the YouTubers, right as I am posting this tomorrow John Riel Casimero will fight a non-professional in a Suntukan match-up on the battle of the YouTubers, I don't know if this would be OK because a professional would fight a non-professional inside the ring, but it will surely happen tomorrow.
Edit: the WBO have announced that John Riel Casimero can not participate in any Boxing or fighting event until his fight with Butler, so the said event against Casimero and the said Non-professional fighter he is facing will still continue but John Riel Casimero is going to be switch with his brother Jayson Casimero, so sorry about this and let's just wait for further announcement on when the fight with Casimero VS Butler.
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December 27, 2021, 04:44:57 PM
December 27, 2021, 04:09:28 PM
That makes sense, it's very unfair for the fans also to see Casimero struggling because he force himself to fight even having some problem with his health, if Spence were able to back out in his fight against Manny Pacquioa and were not criticize, I'm sure the fans will understand that Casimero has no option but to declare his problem.
Even it's been delayed, for sure many fans are still interested since it's a good ticket for Casimero to bring his name
back in talk of Inoue's next possible fight.
That's the good news, the fight was only delayed, it was not canceled because Butler is the top challenger and he always wants to have a shot at winning the championship. Now, they are just like starting from the very beginning, continue the training to be physically and mentally ready in the date of the fight.
December 27, 2021, 01:06:55 PM
Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero. I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.
but even if they really will compete against donaire I will also be very happy because indeed donaire can't be underestimated even though his age is not too young
The fans were already hoping for the Inoue match but it didn't happened yet. But we have to be patient waiting on what's going to be the next move of Casimero.
What we need to look this time is after the postponement due to his medical condition, then, it's likely that match will happen against Butler.
December 27, 2021, 12:58:49 PM
Ohh Casimero is back! Is he really sick?
Since they already provided the medical documents and Casimero retained the WBC title as a result of it, then we can assume that his medical reason is also true. The fight is now officially will push but no official date yet was announced. Let's all be positive that no more problems will occur on the way as this delay really sucks.
With the fight being shifted next year, it's another interesting fight in 2022 that we need to watch.
Yes, it's another fight to watch next year since it was pushed with no exact date that being announced.
Trash talks may appear knowing Casimero, he will do things that will attract the interest of both of his fans and those who hated him.
Butler will have longer time to train and understand all the potential strategies that Casimero will throw on him. His camp has that
opportunities to learn more about the defending champ.
December 27, 2021, 12:35:33 PM
That makes sense, it's very unfair for the fans also to see Casimero struggling because he force himself to fight even having some problem with his health, if Spence were able to back out in his fight against Manny Pacquioa and were not criticize, I'm sure the fans will understand that Casimero has no option but to declare his problem.
Even it's been delayed, for sure many fans are still interested since it's a good ticket for Casimero to bring his name
back in talk of Inoue's next possible fight.
December 27, 2021, 12:11:44 PM
That makes sense, it's very unfair for the fans also to see Casimero struggling because he force himself to fight even having some problem with his health, if Spence were able to back out in his fight against Manny Pacquioa and were not criticize, I'm sure the fans will understand that Casimero has no option but to declare his problem.
It is much better to know that the management give a reasonable decision regarding on stripping off the belt to Casimero that easily just because he doesn't show up at weigh-in. Physical health of a fighter must always be on top of the priority rather than pushing the fight knowing that the other fighter are suffering from health problem while the other is totally healthy, this would be a total unfair to the other fighter. And for sure Casimero could present a valid proof to them about his health issues and hoping he'll be find and could see him again inside the ring defending his belt.
December 27, 2021, 09:38:52 AM
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Yes you are right it's very unfair to us that casimero did not back out to his fight or else the organization will declare to stop the fight or reschedule due to the health condition of casimero like what you said earlier spence back out to his fight against manny because of his health condition cause we all know that it's a big advantage to their opponent if they fight with unhealthy condition.But we have no rights to reschedule the fight or backing off casimero all we got is to support our bet.
December 27, 2021, 09:12:42 AM
the first thing they consider is the validity of the reason and I'm pretty sure that the reason for Casimero is valid for them to allow him to keep his belt and just postpone the fight.
And it looks like they were able to clear anything within the 10-day period that WBO given them to show proof that Casimero really suffers a medical condition resulting in a no-show on their weigh-in. No problem at all now as the rumor if it's true or not is now answered.
Can't believe that even Casimero is sometimes arrogant, his camp will not think twice about the consequences if they will do that no-show scenario intentionally just to save something like a plan in the future or anything else.
If he was really sick that time, why would he force to show up and fight Butler? I think it's better not to show up and come up with a good reason as an excuse than fight his challenger when he is not feeling healthy at all. Anyway, no more speculation now as this fight is still gonna push through.
That makes sense, it's very unfair for the fans also to see Casimero struggling because he force himself to fight even having some problem with his health, if Spence were able to back out in his fight against Manny Pacquioa and were not criticize, I'm sure the fans will understand that Casimero has no option but to declare his problem.
December 27, 2021, 07:11:27 AM
the first thing they consider is the validity of the reason and I'm pretty sure that the reason for Casimero is valid for them to allow him to keep his belt and just postpone the fight.
And it looks like they were able to clear anything within the 10-day period that WBO given them to show proof that Casimero really suffers a medical condition resulting in a no-show on their weigh-in. No problem at all now as the rumor if it's true or not is now answered.
Can't believe that even Casimero is sometimes arrogant, his camp will not think twice about the consequences if they will do that no-show scenario intentionally just to save something like a plan in the future or anything else.
If he was really sick that time, why would he force to show up and fight Butler? I think it's better not to show up and come up with a good reason as an excuse than fight his challenger when he is not feeling healthy at all. Anyway, no more speculation now as this fight is still gonna push through.
December 26, 2021, 06:41:52 PM
the first thing they consider is the validity of the reason and I'm pretty sure that the reason for Casimero is valid for them to allow him to keep his belt and just postpone the fight.
And it looks like they were able to clear anything within the 10-day period that WBO given them to show proof that Casimero really suffers a medical condition resulting in a no-show on their weigh-in. No problem at all now as the rumor if it's true or not is now answered.
Can't believe that even Casimero is sometimes arrogant, his camp will not think twice about the consequences if they will do that no-show scenario intentionally just to save something like a plan in the future or anything else.
December 26, 2021, 05:24:17 PM
Ohh Casimero is back! Is he really sick?
Since they already provided the medical documents and Casimero retained the WBC title as a result of it, then we can assume that his medical reason is also true. The fight is now officially will push but no official date yet was announced. Let's all be positive that no more problems will occur on the way as this delay really sucks.
With the fight being shifted next year, it's another interesting fight in 2022 that we need to watch.
December 26, 2021, 05:13:08 PM
Revenue is just the 2nd thing, the first thing they consider is the validity of the reason and I'm pretty sure that the reason for Casimero is valid for them to allow him to keep his belt and just postpone the fight. We can hear rumors anywhere, writers are just too smart in selling their story and since Casimero is already popualr, many will certainly buy that kind of interesting story.
I'm also hoping that it's just the writer's way of selling his story but the way I look at it, there's some truth to what they have written.
Casimero has always had some issues with weight but with the brilliance of his former strength and conditioning coach Momo Heredia, they always get things done but since they have part ways already, he may have some problem conditioning his body and at the same time making the weight.
It's a big crime for the doctor who issued a medical certificate about his illness at that time if it's just all a lie, I don't think a professional would do it that it could put his license at risk. He made a successful weight-in in his previous fights the why would he miss in this particular fight? it doesn't make sense to me, so I would still believe that he was really sick that time.
We don't know the truth about this article. But if after the investigation, they found some negligence here.
The doctor's career will be screwed but we don't even know those details yet.
Casimero's camp is walking on a thin wire here, they should know the repercussions of such action.
And hopefully, Casimero will tone down and just let his performance inside the ring talks about himself.
edit: But harizen mentioned above that all is well already.
December 26, 2021, 05:10:56 PM
It's a good thing that after all series of dramas, John Riel Casimero remains WBO titleholder and the mandatory fight against Paul Butler will now commence. Casimero's camp provided all the necessary things to show proof that everything is legit and valid that now results in WBO not stripping the title on Casimero. I hope this time, no such problem again will happen to Casimero. We are all longing to see his journey to Inoue that's why time is gold and every of his match should not be delayed.
I also hope that if Casimero will win in that match, Inoue's interest will also come back. He just said recently that he is no longer interested in fighting Casimero.
December 26, 2021, 05:03:04 PM
Ohh Casimero is back! Is he really sick?
Good thing that the schedule of the fight was resumed and Casimero will fight against Butler but at this time there's a possibility that Casimero will lose against Butler. I don't think he can practice well when he was sick or I don't know if until now he was fully recovered from it.
If so and he can able to defeat Butler, the most awaited event would come, the Inoue and Casimero's fight.
Good thing that the schedule of the fight was resumed and Casimero will fight against Butler but at this time there's a possibility that Casimero will lose against Butler. I don't think he can practice well when he was sick or I don't know if until now he was fully recovered from it.
If so and he can able to defeat Butler, the most awaited event would come, the Inoue and Casimero's fight.
December 26, 2021, 04:54:31 PM
Revenue is just the 2nd thing, the first thing they consider is the validity of the reason and I'm pretty sure that the reason for Casimero is valid for them to allow him to keep his belt and just postpone the fight. We can hear rumors anywhere, writers are just too smart in selling their story and since Casimero is already popualr, many will certainly buy that kind of interesting story.
I'm also hoping that it's just the writer's way of selling his story but the way I look at it, there's some truth to what they have written.
Casimero has always had some issues with weight but with the brilliance of his former strength and conditioning coach Momo Heredia, they always get things done but since they have part ways already, he may have some problem conditioning his body and at the same time making the weight.
It's a big crime for the doctor who issued a medical certificate about his illness at that time if it's just all a lie, I don't think a professional would do it that it could put his license at risk. He made a successful weight-in in his previous fights the why would he miss in this particular fight? it doesn't make sense to me, so I would still believe that he was really sick that time.
December 26, 2021, 04:51:07 PM
Revenue is just the 2nd thing, the first thing they consider is the validity of the reason and I'm pretty sure that the reason for Casimero is valid for them to allow him to keep his belt and just postpone the fight. We can hear rumors anywhere, writers are just too smart in selling their story and since Casimero is already popualr, many will certainly buy that kind of interesting story.
I'm also hoping that it's just the writer's way of selling his story but the way I look at it, there's some truth to what they have written.
Casimero has always had some issues with weight but with the brilliance of his former strength and conditioning coach Momo Heredia, they always get things done but since they have part ways already, he may have some problem conditioning his body and at the same time making the weight.
December 26, 2021, 04:29:49 PM
Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero. I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.
but even if they really will compete against donaire I will also be very happy because indeed donaire can't be underestimated even though his age is not too young
December 26, 2021, 04:16:45 PM
Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero. I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.
It's really up to Casimero, if he insists to his manager to get Inoue at all cost then maybe they can negotiate with Bob to seal the fight. However, if Bob says no as he wanted to milk Inoue more then we won't see the fight. Of course this is want we wanted to see, but boxing is business so it will make sense for boxing managers to seek more lucrative money fights instead of unification. Although in the end it will be inevitable as they are the champions in this divisions.
So basically you're right. If the promoter gives a go signal to him then the manager would just go what's according to the manager and this fight is going to be possible.
If the promoter declines, well, it's probably a wish to everyone of us but I guess they really are considering it. Since a lot of fans have seen the fight to be on hype and there's money into it which they really like.
Casimero has to wait, he will get his moment against Inoue, for now, he has to face this mandatory challenger in front of him, after he beats Butler, then maybe we can start talking again about a potential Inoue-Casimero unification fight. Bob would always want to milk Inoue or his fighter to be specific but he also beleieve that Inoue can beat Casimero, so this fight is going to happen, we just don't know when yet.
December 26, 2021, 03:56:08 PM
Just make this fight happen and ever Casimero would win this one then he should aim for Inoue next on line.
Yeah, this match has been the middle ground and delayed the fight of Casimero for Inoue. It's what we want and this match should just happen and end. But good to know that the belt is still with Casimero. I guess we're going to see the next development on this case. But they should listen to the voice of the people on which match we want to see for Casimero and that's with Inoue. There go the others too that wants to see him fight Donaire.
It's really up to Casimero, if he insists to his manager to get Inoue at all cost then maybe they can negotiate with Bob to seal the fight. However, if Bob says no as he wanted to milk Inoue more then we won't see the fight. Of course this is want we wanted to see, but boxing is business so it will make sense for boxing managers to seek more lucrative money fights instead of unification. Although in the end it will be inevitable as they are the champions in this divisions.
So basically you're right. If the promoter gives a go signal to him then the manager would just go what's according to the manager and this fight is going to be possible.
If the promoter declines, well, it's probably a wish to everyone of us but I guess they really are considering it. Since a lot of fans have seen the fight to be on hype and there's money into it which they really like.
December 26, 2021, 03:54:57 PM
Of course Butler would really a big fish and he would just simply deal off with postponement rather than replacement.
And he made the right decision because the belt of Casimero wasn't stripped anyway, and if he fought the replacement, he still has to fight Casimero again for the championship fight, it's gonna be a double effort on Butler and there's no assurance that he would win against the replacement.
Smart move by him, and the organization for not stripping the belt from the champion.
I would say that it is a good decision by the WBO of not stripping Casimero the belt because Casimero is a bigger name than Butler and the could generate money if ever there is a unification bout between Casimero and Inoue/Donaire as the hype is already there.
This time it is the turn of Casimero to put on the work and be at weight during fight time, hope the rumors of him not getting the weight is just fake news.
Speaking of that organizations decision then of course they would really be always minding about revenue and they couldnt really just make out those opportunities do pass by.
thats why these kind of decisions would or should be followed but this one isnt really that obvious though but somewhat this make things more interesting.
Revenue is just the 2nd thing, the first thing they consider is the validity of the reason and I'm pretty sure that the reason for Casimero is valid for them to allow him to keep his belt and just postpone the fight. We can hear rumors anywhere, writers are just too smart in selling their story and since Casimero is already popualr, many will certainly buy that kind of interesting story.
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