Topic: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) - page 6. (Read 7545 times)

Nah, he'll be alright. He didn't look disappointed after the fight, and he knew inside that Tank is really a tough fighter and that he could lose. We hate him because of his trash-talking ability, but in reality, that's what you call effective marketing on his side. So let's just hope for the best for Garcia, who suffered his first defeat. I'm confident that he'll come back strong soon!

Yes, Tank is better than Garcia. This should not only silence Garcia in trash-talking against Tank, he should also be silenced in some of his arrogant trash-talks about him being the king, having been defeated by no other boxer, etc. He is defeated. He is even knocked out. And the knock out was humiliating in a sense because he was the one who refused to stand up, even if it was impossible to stand up. That is already something to some fans and opponents.

Although we can say now that Garcia is not on Tank's level, I really wonder where Garcia now if he hadn't faced all those challenges in his life which distracted his focus on boxing and affected his entire career.

I cannot really imagine how Tank can enter the top 10. His resume is just too weak that he is not even worth mentioning in the top 15. Tank is only a 1 division champion, that's it. And he was not the lineal champ when he became a champ at 130. He's never been in a unification fight. His best win was over former champ Jose Pedraza where Tank took the IBF belt. The best name in his resume was Yuriorkis Gamboa but that was not the quality version of Gamboa. Or maybe Leo Santa Cruz, a 4 division champion. LSC though despite being a 4 division champion will never be mentioned among the greats since he was a product of politics and corruption. Probably the only fighter that was given the privilege to fight for the vacant belt in 4 divisions.

Without politics and network affiliations, Tank still can't enter the top 15 or maybe the top 20 as well since those Japanese multi-division and unified champs in lower divisions have more achievements and there's also Shakur and Haney. El Gallo has had a lot of big wins over the years to his credit and his defeats were close, against the very best, and were avenged. He is even rated #6 by TBRB. Josh Taylor had an off night against Catterall but that doesn't change the fact that he became undisputed. And Taylor did not take all the belts in only 1 or 2 fights just like Haney who was only elevated as the WBC champion and only unified it once to Kambosos. So Tank really needs to mix it up with the top dogs in the division instead of picking the top most talkative ones. He's campaigning at 135 for years now yet he never even tried to fight for the belt. It would've been easier to arrange a title fight before when they were not fully unified. Now, all the belts are in Haney's hands.

I am not sure if The Ring really worked independently nowadays but it is supposed to be independent, free from conflict of interest and bias. There are doubts after Golden Boy Promotions purchased it, even if there was a promise that it will operate just as in the old days. The acquisition though led to the creation of the Transnational Boxing Rankings Board. And I also consider TBRB as the most reliable, although they only recognize lineal champs in divisions and do not award belts like The Ring.

It could be possible but it will take a long time. What happened should be a motivation for Ryan Garcia to improve more. He still has a lot to go through in case he would be facing huge boxers in the future. It will be nice to see them in the same ring again but it will be more exciting if Ryan would prepare well so he could manage to counter the strength of Tank Davis. I agree that Ryan is still young and still has a lot to develop in time. Davis is undeniably undefeated and he always prepares well to give his best shot in the ring. Ryan has a huge potential to beat huge boxers in the future if he will be eager to develop his stamina more.

The possibility of seeing them again is not far. Garcia just needs to continue working with his skills, enhancing everything to be more ready
when the time comes and opportunity is open to fight back with Davis.

He's still young and he can use that as an advantage to keep doing what he thinks is best for his career, the lost to Davis can serve as learning process.

He needs to analyze and practice whatever he thinks he is still missing. That way, he will be able to adjust and improve.

Yes, you're right. That specific rematch clause was just a one-sided clause because that can only be activated if Gervonta Davis gets defeated versus Ryan Garcia, which as we all know didn't happen, so that might not be possible as for now. But in the coming years, whether if it's at 135 or 140, I think it is possible if fate permits to have these two meet again in one same ring.

Definitely, he will do that once he comes back from his vacation. If he considers his loss as inspiration, he will try to push his limits and become better. So, maybe the next time he fights Davis in the ring, he will be a better Ryan Garcia.

I didn't expect the fight to go 12 rounds since both fighters are heavy punchers, and a KO was highly anticipated instead of a judges' decision.

^  Yup...  The guy's young, he's practically still a kid as far as his fight age goes because from what I know, he didn't really have any tough matches against fighers that are in his level.  I think he should toughen up and fight more of the top guys in his weight class.

Anyway, I'm a bit disappointed.  I really thought Garcia was gonna take the match to the late rounds.  I expected him to be more durable than what he showed up there...  :/  And because I had a small bet on Davis to win via decision.  Lol.  

What's important is that he makes a lot of money in this fight.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/pro-boxing/news-how-much-gervonta-davis-make-ryan-garcia-here-s-estimate-fight-purse

His career is not yet over. There's still more to come for him, and he'll be able to recover from this big loss as long as he knows how to accept defeat. With that attitude, a big fight will surely come for him again. There are many great boxers who are not undefeated, and Garcia could be one of them.

He did? I didn't know about that. He is still young and I don't know what people at this age are depressed about. I mean, it's the part where you just enjoy being young.
But yes, perhaps this first important loss will have an effect on him.
He looks good at the post-game interview and I do believe he can absorb all the bashing that will come to him. At these bad times, his family, cornermen, and gym friends will help a lot to boost him again and point him in the right direction which is getting over it and being better on his next fight.
There's so much room for improvement in that young kid. If he can just strengthen his right then he will be unstoppable. Other boxers will have a hard time finding his weakness.

Haney and Loma are both a good matchup for Davis, but I'd go for Devin Haney in this case. I mean we need to see more fight from an undisputed champions or undefeated fighters going against each other to solidify the claims on who's the best active boxer. However, what I really would like to happen next for Gervonta Davis is he go against Isaac Cruz once again. The first one was very very close and a very good fight to watch. Some boxing fans really wanted to have that rematch. I hope Davis won't get too afraid of blemishing his perfect record by refusing a rematch from a worth fighting opponent. Real warriors don't turn down opportunities to prove yourself against the doubters.

And as for Garcia, I don't think a rematch is a good idea. It's clearer than the sunlight that he's no match against the Tank. He should stick to his normal weight division (like what he said in the post fight interview)  to avoid these rehydration clause excuses.

I doubt if Mayweather aka Tank's promoter will let Tank to fight either Haney or Loma because Mayweather have trained Haney before, so he must be know Haney's power and compare it with Tank. Mayweather is an undefeated boxer, so my assumption he will make Tank following his path by staying as an undefeated boxer. I think Haney is better than Tank and if Loma can beat Haney, it's mean Tank might almost impossible to beat Loma.

Yes, they are in a different league, Tank is just above him, and it will be a big test for Tank if he is going to face Haney or Loma so that we will know who is really the king of the 135 lbs. Ryan is below now and could be out of the picture for the next coming months to take a rest and rethink his options next (whether to stay or move up because his body can't take the weight drain). And hopefully, there will be no depression as a result of this lost on him.

That's it. He needs to ensure that he is ready when he comes back so that he can start winning again. As of now, the debate is over. Tank Davis has proven to be the better fighter, and Ryan Garcia cannot trash talk him anymore, as we have already seen how strong Tank Davis is. Garcia is definitely not on Tank's level yet.

It would all depend on how good his next opponent would be and how prepared mentally and physically he would be at that time. Although Ryan is probably successful in his mental struggles as he has already managed to come back, train hard and focused on the gym, it is possible that this first loss could trigger a little depression. But it's always great that his family is always around him and is very supportive.

He needs to take a good deal of recovery time, builds himself stronger especially mentally, before getting his next fight at 140.

I hope Ryan Garcia can bounce back from his loss to Tank Davis. It was a huge loss for him as he thought he was the better fighter and could knock out Tank Davis, but the opposite happened. It's crucial for Garcia to win his next fight because a boxer who was previously undefeated and suffers their first defeat may not have the same level of confidence they had before.


Is a rematch still possible? I thought there was a clause or something that stated that no rematch would happen if Davis wins.

I think Ryan has overcome his mental issues already, since that one went into public, he has made a comeback already and now it's just the best boxer won in this fight.

It's not that Ryan will be affected or has been affected by this big lost, for sure he can make a comeback again as he have said in the post fight interview. And he has give us a hint that he might go up in weight class as obviously he looks drain at 136 lbs + rehydration clause of 10 pounds in fight night. Might take some time for him to recovery, but he promise that he will be back. Rematch with Tank is out of the picture as 135 lbs.

It make sense that Davis should be looking for the winner of Loma-Haney fight. It's just the question whether he is willing to go and chase any of those two, or will choose a fight for the money in 135 lbs. Rolly Romero's name has been popping up for a rematch, but not sure if the camp of Davis is willing to give him one.

And there will be no rematch for Ryan Garcia too, we've heard in the rematch that the rematch could only be activated if Ryan wins the first fight. Not even controversial result, it was a clear and dominant win by Tank via body shot knockout.

Since Davis is now more hyped from defeating Ryan Garcia, I will not be surprised if people will be calling Tank Davis to fight the winner of Loma-Haney fight. I guess it's already time too for that to happen, soon enough, because Tank has been holding the WBA regular belt for quite sometime now since he got in 2019 where he fought and defeated Gamboa by a way of TKO.

No, I'm not, that's how I see it though, but at least let Tank be in the top 10 now. I just check Ring's list of p4p and I saw Juan Francisco Estrada at number 10. Nevertheless, might be the start for Tank to really up his opposition, maybe he should really fight the winner of Loma vs Haney.

Barring boxing politics and network affiliation, this could easily be made. Although Tank was asked this question if I'm not mistaken, but he didn't answer it directly. While Haney said he is willing to fight Tank next. Let's see how it goes, as I have said, this performance will at least break him in the top 10, IMHO. Josh Taylor is number 9 when he has a very close fight with Jack Catterall and almost lost that fight.