Topic: [Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) - page 3. (Read 7545 times)

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 04, 2023, 09:38:34 AM

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All of that might be found on his new journey and as of now, it's already rumored that he already have another one to coach him but I don't think he will be given enough time because that same coach is also the coaches of Anthony Joshua, Charlo and Errol Spence. But I have no doubts that he can a learn a thing or two in this new coach because he also trained numerous champions already.

So it's going to be a repeat on Ryan Garcia as you have said, remember that he left Eddy Reynoso because he thinks that he is not giving him enough time, as Eddy had Canelo Alvarez that was his excused and so he parted ways and go to Joe Goosen.

So doesn't make sense to go to Derrick James then?

Anyhow, we wait if this marriage will work in the future, imagine Ryan becoming slick and improved his footwork with his new trainer. Because it seems that James is known to train black athletes so maybe he can improved Ryan a bit.

I would trust Reynoso and Canelo's words rather than the very talkative unproven Ryan Garcia. Reynoso has the time but he wants his precious time only for those that are fully devoted and follows his advice. The same with Canelo, he allowed some athletes like Oscar Valdez, Andy Ruiz, and Ryan Garcia to join his training camp but they need to train like hell and not bring negativity to the camp.

Derrick James was in my mind too but I did not mention it because the Charlos and Spence are very close friends of Tank. Spence seems cool but the Charlos might bully and laugh at Garcia if they are in the same camp. I can feel deep inside that Ryan is hurting and wants revenge because he was not given the chance to fight Tank at the weight class he wants. Maybe James can fly to the place where Ryan can establish his training camp but I am not sure if his ego is capable of surviving in the same training camp with the Charlos. There is even the chance of Tank visiting his friends in training.

Ryan won't become slick overnight but James can help him set up his punches properly and work on his defense. He really has the habit to become wide and open when he throws his power punch and Tank knew it.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 04, 2023, 09:38:34 AM

I honestly see nothing really great about Ryan Garcia. He is good but not great and I do not even think he will ever become a world champion. Or maybe he can upset a champion or win a vacant belt because he is gifted with power but most likely he is not holding a world title for long. There's a huge difference between Garcia and the prospect days of Teofimo Lopez, Adrien Broner, etc.

Let's just give him some time for now because after all, he is still young and definitely have some room to improve if he is that actually serious to be one of the greats one day. He already got the talent to bring any boxer down as long as he can touch it with somebody else's temple but that talent is not well taken care of and that's what he should do. For now, this loss he just experienced will wake him up and reflect on his actions, so that next time, he knows what to do.

Perhaps if he will just know how to protect or have good defense though, he could be an elite boxer. But he doesn't have that and the movement, still very amateurish that's why when he faces a great boxer like Gervonta Davis, he was really exposed and then others says that Ryan just quit and doesn't want to go and fight. He could have like the mentality of Amir Khan, than when he knows that he is going to lose the fight, he just take a dive and quit. So if he can fight a coach that can improved his lateral movements and cover his face and body more, then maybe he can recover from his lost.

All of that might be found on his new journey and as of now, it's already rumored that he already have another one to coach him but I don't think he will be given enough time because that same coach is also the coaches of Anthony Joshua, Charlo and Errol Spence. But I have no doubts that he can a learn a thing or two in this new coach because he also trained numerous champions already.

So it's going to be a repeat on Ryan Garcia as you have said, remember that he left Eddy Reynoso because he thinks that he is not giving him enough time, as Eddy had Canelo Alvarez that was his excused and so he parted ways and go to Joe Goosen.

So doesn't make sense to go to Derrick James then?

Anyhow, we wait if this marriage will work in the future, imagine Ryan becoming slick and improved his footwork with his new trainer. Because it seems that James is known to train black athletes so maybe he can improved Ryan a bit.

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Quote from: Jating on May 04, 2023, 02:31:54 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 04, 2023, 09:38:34 AM

I honestly see nothing really great about Ryan Garcia. He is good but not great and I do not even think he will ever become a world champion. Or maybe he can upset a champion or win a vacant belt because he is gifted with power but most likely he is not holding a world title for long. There's a huge difference between Garcia and the prospect days of Teofimo Lopez, Adrien Broner, etc.

Let's just give him some time for now because after all, he is still young and definitely have some room to improve if he is that actually serious to be one of the greats one day. He already got the talent to bring any boxer down as long as he can touch it with somebody else's temple but that talent is not well taken care of and that's what he should do. For now, this loss he just experienced will wake him up and reflect on his actions, so that next time, he knows what to do.

Perhaps if he will just know how to protect or have good defense though, he could be an elite boxer. But he doesn't have that and the movement, still very amateurish that's why when he faces a great boxer like Gervonta Davis, he was really exposed and then others says that Ryan just quit and doesn't want to go and fight. He could have like the mentality of Amir Khan, than when he knows that he is going to lose the fight, he just take a dive and quit. So if he can fight a coach that can improved his lateral movements and cover his face and body more, then maybe he can recover from his lost.

All of that might be found on his new journey and as of now, it's already rumored that he already have another one to coach him but I don't think he will be given enough time because that same coach is also the coaches of Anthony Joshua, Charlo and Errol Spence. But I have no doubts that he can a learn a thing or two in this new coach because he also trained numerous champions already.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 04, 2023, 09:38:34 AM

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I guess Ryan might not be satisfied on how him and Goosen put up their strategy. Anyways, we will see which one his going to pick next as he wanted to go and move up to 140 lbs.

That's probably the case and no matter how close they were as seen by the public, the results will speak for themselves and will make him realize that there's a need to change. Who are the candidates that he might pick or is anyone who's got a list of the potential replacement for Goosen after this parting ways?

I honestly see nothing really great about Ryan Garcia. He is good but not great and I do not even think he will ever become a world champion. Or maybe he can upset a champion or win a vacant belt because he is gifted with power but most likely he is not holding a world title for long. There's a huge difference between Garcia and the prospect days of Teofimo Lopez, Adrien Broner, etc.

Although he seemed to improve when he was accepted to join the team of Eddy Reynoso and Canelo Alvarez. But after his popularity continued to grow, he seemed distracted and tempted to enjoy life and it leads to their split. Joe Goossen is an experienced coach but he was probably picked earlier to cater to Garcia's demand.

After sacrificing and just following all of Tank's demands, the event was a huge success. Ryan can leave boxing and enjoy his life like he seems to always wants. Or maybe his ego is touched after the loss and will return. But if he wants to develop himself, he needs a coach that is Spartan-like when it comes to training and not a coach that will only follow his wants. I doubt Reynoso will open his doors again to Ryan. Maybe Sugar Hill Steward or Ronnie Shields?

Everything that you've said has the possibilities and we will never know the actual reasons for their separation. But then, with all of the distractions, it's possible that he seems to be liking the fame that he wants to enjoy. I doubt that he'll leave boxing yet, he's still young to get out of the sports and it's too early. Not that much achievement as you've said and that's why it's going to fuel his hunger for more success for the upcoming years, whatever he does, I'll still wish him luck.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 04, 2023, 09:38:34 AM

I honestly see nothing really great about Ryan Garcia. He is good but not great and I do not even think he will ever become a world champion. Or maybe he can upset a champion or win a vacant belt because he is gifted with power but most likely he is not holding a world title for long. There's a huge difference between Garcia and the prospect days of Teofimo Lopez, Adrien Broner, etc.

Let's just give him some time for now because after all, he is still young and definitely have some room to improve if he is that actually serious to be one of the greats one day. He already got the talent to bring any boxer down as long as he can touch it with somebody else's temple but that talent is not well taken care of and that's what he should do. For now, this loss he just experienced will wake him up and reflect on his actions, so that next time, he knows what to do.

Perhaps if he will just know how to protect or have good defense though, he could be an elite boxer. But he doesn't have that and the movement, still very amateurish that's why when he faces a great boxer like Gervonta Davis, he was really exposed and then others says that Ryan just quit and doesn't want to go and fight. He could have like the mentality of Amir Khan, than when he knows that he is going to lose the fight, he just take a dive and quit. So if he can fight a coach that can improved his lateral movements and cover his face and body more, then maybe he can recover from his lost.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 04, 2023, 09:38:34 AM

I honestly see nothing really great about Ryan Garcia. He is good but not great and I do not even think he will ever become a world champion. Or maybe he can upset a champion or win a vacant belt because he is gifted with power but most likely he is not holding a world title for long. There's a huge difference between Garcia and the prospect days of Teofimo Lopez, Adrien Broner, etc.

Let's just give him some time for now because after all, he is still young and definitely have some room to improve if he is that actually serious to be one of the greats one day. He already got the talent to bring any boxer down as long as he can touch it with somebody else's temple but that talent is not well taken care of and that's what he should do. For now, this loss he just experienced will wake him up and reflect on his actions, so that next time, he knows what to do.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on May 04, 2023, 01:24:56 PM

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I can blame Ryan only for taking impulsive decisions. If it is mentioned, that coach wasnt with him during post-fight conference, it seems that he has fire his coach straight after that lose. I think it is wrong to take such decisions without re-watching the fight, finding your own mistakes and etc. It looks like when you win, coach is good, but when you lose, you throw your coach away, like it was 100% his fault of your lost.

To be fair, I would say the coach is partly to blame for his loss as well. Devastating as the punch may be, I think a boxer that has accounted for Davis's skills and move would've been able to counter it, if not dodge the punch outright. Which surprise surprise, is something that the coach will be able to help with. No matter what the reasons are for the layoff of said coach, I think Ryan's more aggressive and more hungry for a comeback. He'll definitely put his A-game in this next fight and provided that Gervonta keeps up with his record, this could be another great fight and potentially another rivalry that could very well sit alongside the likes of Pacquiao vs Marquez. Only time will tell though.

But the funny thing is, Goosen is saying the opposite thing where it was Ryan Garcia who didn't obey his advice that could've made a little difference compared to what we have seen throughout the whole fight where Garcia was literally like an amateur boxer or a newbie facing Gervonta Davis.

Moreover, Goosen also explained before that Garcia was lazy during their sessions and it's like he was not really 100 percent focused about their trainings.

That, I think was the reason why Goosen left him and didn't show up in the post-fight press conference because why should he be there if Ryan Garcia didn't even listened to what he was saying during the fight.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on May 04, 2023, 01:24:56 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on May 02, 2023, 06:15:46 AM

I can blame Ryan only for taking impulsive decisions. If it is mentioned, that coach wasnt with him during post-fight conference, it seems that he has fire his coach straight after that lose. I think it is wrong to take such decisions without re-watching the fight, finding your own mistakes and etc. It looks like when you win, coach is good, but when you lose, you throw your coach away, like it was 100% his fault of your lost.

To be fair, I would say the coach is partly to blame for his loss as well. Devastating as the punch may be, I think a boxer that has accounted for Davis's skills and move would've been able to counter it, if not dodge the punch outright. Which surprise surprise, is something that the coach will be able to help with. No matter what the reasons are for the layoff of said coach, I think Ryan's more aggressive and more hungry for a comeback. He'll definitely put his A-game in this next fight and provided that Gervonta keeps up with his record, this could be another great fight and potentially another rivalry that could very well sit alongside the likes of Pacquiao vs Marquez. Only time will tell though.

We will see first if Ryan can get back from this big lost. This is his first L and we don't know if he has want it takes to overcome it and become a great boxer or will he take it very hard. The thing is that Ryan is very young, just needed some good people around him, although if you listen to him, he seems to be God fearing so that is a good sign already.

For the rivalry, if both of them goes to 140 lbs and then Ryan becoming a champion, then who knows, maybe they will have to share the ring again just like the great battle between Manny and JMM.

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Quote from: btc_angela on May 04, 2023, 05:02:52 AM

We will never know the real story, Oscar said there were death threats to him. Goosen is out after what we thought that he did a great job on Ryan, it's that Garcia didn't follow the instructions in the corner.

And maybe right now there is still confusion on Ryan and Oscar side, we don't know if they have spoken already. Maybe if everything clears up, we can see them in public again and chances are Ryan are going to stay with GBP or at least until his contract expires and then Oscar going hard and try to sign up again with bigger money.

Well, if that is truly the case, then these issues that we're talking about now shouldn't exist in the first place because if those death threats towards Oscar Dela Hoya were true then Ryan Garcia would've understood it clearly and would be the first one to know as he was the one who were alone in the press conference. But since the issue is alive, we can say that Oscar was just making up some stories because even Ryan Garcia is making a big deal out of it.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on May 02, 2023, 06:15:46 AM

I can blame Ryan only for taking impulsive decisions. If it is mentioned, that coach wasnt with him during post-fight conference, it seems that he has fire his coach straight after that lose. I think it is wrong to take such decisions without re-watching the fight, finding your own mistakes and etc. It looks like when you win, coach is good, but when you lose, you throw your coach away, like it was 100% his fault of your lost.

To be fair, I would say the coach is partly to blame for his loss as well. Devastating as the punch may be, I think a boxer that has accounted for Davis's skills and move would've been able to counter it, if not dodge the punch outright. Which surprise surprise, is something that the coach will be able to help with. No matter what the reasons are for the layoff of said coach, I think Ryan's more aggressive and more hungry for a comeback. He'll definitely put his A-game in this next fight and provided that Gervonta keeps up with his record, this could be another great fight and potentially another rivalry that could very well sit alongside the likes of Pacquiao vs Marquez. Only time will tell though.

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I guess Ryan might not be satisfied on how him and Goosen put up their strategy. Anyways, we will see which one his going to pick next as he wanted to go and move up to 140 lbs.

That's probably the case and no matter how close they were as seen by the public, the results will speak for themselves and will make him realize that there's a need to change. Who are the candidates that he might pick or is anyone who's got a list of the potential replacement for Goosen after this parting ways?

I honestly see nothing really great about Ryan Garcia. He is good but not great and I do not even think he will ever become a world champion. Or maybe he can upset a champion or win a vacant belt because he is gifted with power but most likely he is not holding a world title for long. There's a huge difference between Garcia and the prospect days of Teofimo Lopez, Adrien Broner, etc.

Although he seemed to improve when he was accepted to join the team of Eddy Reynoso and Canelo Alvarez. But after his popularity continued to grow, he seemed distracted and tempted to enjoy life and it leads to their split. Joe Goossen is an experienced coach but he was probably picked earlier to cater to Garcia's demand.

After sacrificing and just following all of Tank's demands, the event was a huge success. Ryan can leave boxing and enjoy his life like he seems to always wants. Or maybe his ego is touched after the loss and will return. But if he wants to develop himself, he needs a coach that is Spartan-like when it comes to training and not a coach that will only follow his wants. I doubt Reynoso will open his doors again to Ryan. Maybe Sugar Hill Steward or Ronnie Shields?

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Yes, not going to be surprised, we don't know how long is the contract or when it's going to end, but for sure, majority of us might have the same feeling that Ryan is just waiting for the right time to cut his ties with Oscar and who knows, goes on the other side, PBC.

Gonna hurt Oscar if that happens, but this is a cutt throat business, this guys are really going against each other and if you want to survived, then Oscar needs to do is still go and look for more promising boxers again. And then pamper them, make their name more hype and then get that belt. He still has a lot of stable boxers though, so could be fine if Ryan decided to part ways.

I've never seen a boxer going all alone in the post-conference without his trainers and promoters and these people are making a lot of alibis without being in Ryan's corner when he needed them the most, there's confirmed news that he parted ways with Goosen which is the right thing to do, he has a bad game plan stalking a hard-hitting boxer like Tank, the possibility of Ryan leaving Oscar is highly possible, Ryan is still a draw in boxing matches and any promotions would like to have him in their rooster.
It's just one big loss, he'll have more big wins coming if he gets a good trainer and possibly good promoters.

A lot has changed with just one loss of Ryan Garcia. This only goes to show that when you're no longer an undefeated boxer, you'll likely have a harder time climbing the ladder of champions. Just like what happened to Thurman and probably other boxers who are no longer undefeated. The only exception I know is Pacquiao, because even if he's not undefeated, people are still excited to see him fight. Moreover, they're also expecting him to win every time.

Yes, that's why Manny is really built very differently, even at lost, you can see that fans love him and then continue to make a comeback after comeback and win fights. Speaking of him, there is a video after the fight that he goes to both camps to congratulates Davis and Garcia. I do hope that Garcia did listen to what Manny said to him, to inspire him and fight and make a huge comeback after this lost. It's a case to case basis though, boxers are very differently and again, we will see which coach will go hire next and bring the fighter in him.

Yes, the presence of Pacquiao after that loss will give him an inspiration to continue to pursue his career, like what you said
Pacquiao gain that attention to his fans.

As even he lost a fight, he continues to excite him whenever he re-tries to fight back, the expectations that he will go better and better from his previous
form is how the fans love seeing him inside the ring and try to break another shot.

It's Pacquiao's boxing legacy, a well-love by the fans and it will never be forgotten.

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I guess Ryan might not be satisfied on how him and Goosen put up their strategy. Anyways, we will see which one his going to pick next as he wanted to go and move up to 140 lbs.

That's probably the case and no matter how close they were as seen by the public, the results will speak for themselves and will make him realize that there's a need to change. Who are the candidates that he might pick or is anyone who's got a list of the potential replacement for Goosen after this parting ways?

Quote from: Sanitough on May 03, 2023, 03:55:39 PM

So, it seems that they are on the blaming game now and I wouldn't be shocked if a similar news will explode that Ryan Garcia have cut his ties with his promoter, Oscar Dela Hoya, although, I'm not even sure if Garcia can do it now (this year) because he got a contract under Golden Boy. I guess, we'll know about it soon as they are now on a hot mess. It all started when Oscar didn't show up in the post-fight press con.

I don't think that he'll do that with the Golden Boy. It's entirely a different matter that he should address. There can also be some real life and personal matters that he has to settle with Goosen, we don't know though but soon he'll for sure going to prevail it.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on May 03, 2023, 09:18:58 PM

Its his last fight with Goosen though, as Garcia is parting ways with the fame training,

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BoxingScene.com has confirmed that Garcia has parted ways with veteran trainer Joe Goossen. The split comes a little more than a year after the two joined forces in early 2022, working just three fights together and which ended with Garcia’s lone career defeat when he was stopped by unbeaten star Gervonta Davis in the seventh round of their April 22 super fight at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-parts-ways-with-joe-goossen-following-knockout-defeat-gervonta-davis--174277

So from Reynoso->Goosen-> Huh

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Who's next for Ryan? and can we blame him for leaving Goosen as his trainer? They are very close as Goosen has trained Ryan in the amateurs and it was reported that the Garcia's are close to Goosen. But obviously, with the way he lost against Tank, I guess Ryan might not be satisfied on how him and Goosen put up their strategy. Anyways, we will see which one his going to pick next as he wanted to go and move up to 140 lbs.

So, it seems that they are on the blaming game now and I wouldn't be shocked if a similar news will explode that Ryan Garcia have cut his ties with his promoter, Oscar Dela Hoya, although, I'm not even sure if Garcia can do it now (this year) because he got a contract under Golden Boy. I guess, we'll know about it soon as they are now on a hot mess. It all started when Oscar didn't show up in the post-fight press con.

Yes, not going to be surprised, we don't know how long is the contract or when it's going to end, but for sure, majority of us might have the same feeling that Ryan is just waiting for the right time to cut his ties with Oscar and who knows, goes on the other side, PBC.

Gonna hurt Oscar if that happens, but this is a cutt throat business, this guys are really going against each other and if you want to survived, then Oscar needs to do is still go and look for more promising boxers again. And then pamper them, make their name more hype and then get that belt. He still has a lot of stable boxers though, so could be fine if Ryan decided to part ways.

There is huge chance that it will happen somewhere in the future because PBC is no doubt one of the best promotional company right now in the boxing industry because aside from the fact that they are the ones who mostly makes huge fights these days, PBC is no doubt have a vast affiliation and influence as well, and that might be one of the few reason why Ryan might choose PBC if in-case his contact with Oscar will end.

Apart from that, Oscar brought this whole situation himself and he surely cannot blame somebody because I doubt Ryan Garcia will act this way if he just showed up and provide back-up for Ryan Garcia in the post-fight press conference because after all, Ryan Garcia is still a kid in the middle of these controversies which also have a very sensitive feelings.

We will never know the real story, Oscar said there were death threats to him. Goosen is out after what we thought that he did a great job on Ryan, it's that Garcia didn't follow the instructions in the corner.

And maybe right now there is still confusion on Ryan and Oscar side, we don't know if they have spoken already. Maybe if everything clears up, we can see them in public again and chances are Ryan are going to stay with GBP or at least until his contract expires and then Oscar going hard and try to sign up again with bigger money.

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Yes, not going to be surprised, we don't know how long is the contract or when it's going to end, but for sure, majority of us might have the same feeling that Ryan is just waiting for the right time to cut his ties with Oscar and who knows, goes on the other side, PBC.

Gonna hurt Oscar if that happens, but this is a cutt throat business, this guys are really going against each other and if you want to survived, then Oscar needs to do is still go and look for more promising boxers again. And then pamper them, make their name more hype and then get that belt. He still has a lot of stable boxers though, so could be fine if Ryan decided to part ways.

I've never seen a boxer going all alone in the post-conference without his trainers and promoters and these people are making a lot of alibis without being in Ryan's corner when he needed them the most, there's confirmed news that he parted ways with Goosen which is the right thing to do, he has a bad game plan stalking a hard-hitting boxer like Tank, the possibility of Ryan leaving Oscar is highly possible, Ryan is still a draw in boxing matches and any promotions would like to have him in their rooster.
It's just one big loss, he'll have more big wins coming if he gets a good trainer and possibly good promoters.

A lot has changed with just one loss of Ryan Garcia. This only goes to show that when you're no longer an undefeated boxer, you'll likely have a harder time climbing the ladder of champions. Just like what happened to Thurman and probably other boxers who are no longer undefeated. The only exception I know is Pacquiao, because even if he's not undefeated, people are still excited to see him fight. Moreover, they're also expecting him to win every time.

Yes, that's why Manny is really built very differently, even at lost, you can see that fans love him and then continue to make a comeback after comeback and win fights. Speaking of him, there is a video after the fight that he goes to both camps to congratulates Davis and Garcia. I do hope that Garcia did listen to what Manny said to him, to inspire him and fight and make a huge comeback after this lost. It's a case to case basis though, boxers are very differently and again, we will see which coach will go hire next and bring the fighter in him.

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Yes, not going to be surprised, we don't know how long is the contract or when it's going to end, but for sure, majority of us might have the same feeling that Ryan is just waiting for the right time to cut his ties with Oscar and who knows, goes on the other side, PBC.

Gonna hurt Oscar if that happens, but this is a cutt throat business, this guys are really going against each other and if you want to survived, then Oscar needs to do is still go and look for more promising boxers again. And then pamper them, make their name more hype and then get that belt. He still has a lot of stable boxers though, so could be fine if Ryan decided to part ways.

I've never seen a boxer going all alone in the post-conference without his trainers and promoters and these people are making a lot of alibis without being in Ryan's corner when he needed them the most, there's confirmed news that he parted ways with Goosen which is the right thing to do, he has a bad game plan stalking a hard-hitting boxer like Tank, the possibility of Ryan leaving Oscar is highly possible, Ryan is still a draw in boxing matches and any promotions would like to have him in their rooster.
It's just one big loss, he'll have more big wins coming if he gets a good trainer and possibly good promoters.

A lot has changed with just one loss of Ryan Garcia. This only goes to show that when you're no longer an undefeated boxer, you'll likely have a harder time climbing the ladder of champions. Just like what happened to Thurman and probably other boxers who are no longer undefeated. The only exception I know is Pacquiao, because even if he's not undefeated, people are still excited to see him fight. Moreover, they're also expecting him to win every time.

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Yes, not going to be surprised, we don't know how long is the contract or when it's going to end, but for sure, majority of us might have the same feeling that Ryan is just waiting for the right time to cut his ties with Oscar and who knows, goes on the other side, PBC.

Gonna hurt Oscar if that happens, but this is a cutt throat business, this guys are really going against each other and if you want to survived, then Oscar needs to do is still go and look for more promising boxers again. And then pamper them, make their name more hype and then get that belt. He still has a lot of stable boxers though, so could be fine if Ryan decided to part ways.

I've never seen a boxer going all alone in the post-conference without his trainers and promoters and these people are making a lot of alibis without being in Ryan's corner when he needed them the most, there's confirmed news that he parted ways with Goosen which is the right thing to do, he has a bad game plan stalking a hard-hitting boxer like Tank, the possibility of Ryan leaving Oscar is highly possible, Ryan is still a draw in boxing matches and any promotions would like to have him in their rooster.
It's just one big loss, he'll have more big wins coming if he gets a good trainer and possibly good promoters.

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Its his last fight with Goosen though, as Garcia is parting ways with the fame training,

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BoxingScene.com has confirmed that Garcia has parted ways with veteran trainer Joe Goossen. The split comes a little more than a year after the two joined forces in early 2022, working just three fights together and which ended with Garcia’s lone career defeat when he was stopped by unbeaten star Gervonta Davis in the seventh round of their April 22 super fight at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-parts-ways-with-joe-goossen-following-knockout-defeat-gervonta-davis--174277

So from Reynoso->Goosen-> Huh

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Who's next for Ryan? and can we blame him for leaving Goosen as his trainer? They are very close as Goosen has trained Ryan in the amateurs and it was reported that the Garcia's are close to Goosen. But obviously, with the way he lost against Tank, I guess Ryan might not be satisfied on how him and Goosen put up their strategy. Anyways, we will see which one his going to pick next as he wanted to go and move up to 140 lbs.

So, it seems that they are on the blaming game now and I wouldn't be shocked if a similar news will explode that Ryan Garcia have cut his ties with his promoter, Oscar Dela Hoya, although, I'm not even sure if Garcia can do it now (this year) because he got a contract under Golden Boy. I guess, we'll know about it soon as they are now on a hot mess. It all started when Oscar didn't show up in the post-fight press con.

Yes, not going to be surprised, we don't know how long is the contract or when it's going to end, but for sure, majority of us might have the same feeling that Ryan is just waiting for the right time to cut his ties with Oscar and who knows, goes on the other side, PBC.

Gonna hurt Oscar if that happens, but this is a cutt throat business, this guys are really going against each other and if you want to survived, then Oscar needs to do is still go and look for more promising boxers again. And then pamper them, make their name more hype and then get that belt. He still has a lot of stable boxers though, so could be fine if Ryan decided to part ways.

There is huge chance that it will happen somewhere in the future because PBC is no doubt one of the best promotional company right now in the boxing industry because aside from the fact that they are the ones who mostly makes huge fights these days, PBC is no doubt have a vast affiliation and influence as well, and that might be one of the few reason why Ryan might choose PBC if in-case his contact with Oscar will end.

Apart from that, Oscar brought this whole situation himself and he surely cannot blame somebody because I doubt Ryan Garcia will act this way if he just showed up and provide back-up for Ryan Garcia in the post-fight press conference because after all, Ryan Garcia is still a kid in the middle of these controversies which also have a very sensitive feelings.

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