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I've asked for a refund. The 55% BTC has been transferred to me last night. However the BCH has not yet been sent. Anyone else with this problem? Or maybe they do BTC and BCH in different batches?
Anyone who selected the 55% refund option tries to deposit to another exchange or an online wallet? I want to know their reaction when receiving coins from btc-e wallet. 
How would they know where the deposit came from as BTC-e rolled all new hot wallets?I wouldn't say they even have hot wallets. I believe these are all manually-batched transactions. From what blockchain evidence I remember seeing around the time of the seizure, it looked like they were splitting their wallets extensively. This should make the current refunds more difficult to track.
However, I highly advise against depositing directly into, say, Coinbase. There are plenty of other services that don't have the means nor the will to freeze your account for tainted coins. Coinbase (and perhaps Gemini, Bitstamp) definitely work with blockchain analysis companies and law enforcement. If I were sending coins there, I'd mix them through a couple non-KYC services first.
It will be much easier to track BTC-e's wallets once the service is relaunched, and we see regular hot wallet procedures, including the pooling of incoming deposits. I'm curious to see if fungibility issues arise.
Anyone who selected the 55% refund option tries to deposit to another exchange or an online wallet? I want to know their reaction when receiving coins from btc-e wallet.
How would they know where the deposit came from as BTC-e rolled all new hot wallets?
Anyone who selected the 55% refund option tries to deposit to another exchange or an online wallet? I want to know their reaction when receiving coins from btc-e wallet.
All I can say is I’m not pleased at losing 45% of my holdings to cash out now which was a new idea they came up with since making the original promise to not do that very thing.
There was no way I was going to leave any of my actually available funds on there another second. Good luck to those that have spun that dice...
There was no way I was going to leave any of my actually available funds on there another second. Good luck to those that have spun that dice...
That was your decision, not BTC-e's.
Only 9% of the users have chosen the 55% refund https://poll.pollcode.com/62684153_result?v
The vast majority are waiting until after Sep 15th.
i highly doubt most users have equal balances. probably 80% of the funds are in the hands of a few.
Well, with $100k+ in fiat, I missed the BTC train (and BCH), so I have less than half of what I would have had if I was in coin at the time. Taking a 50% loss now would bring that down to a quarter. Sure BTC trading is about betting, but now I'm betting those 50k that they will honor the payback rather than losing them with 100% certainty.
it all falls back on the saying "1 bird in hand is better then 2 in the bush"
I'm with this. I won't go into details about my personal situation, and I actually believe that BTC-e will relaunch and allow remaining users to recover more than 55% of their accounts. They are showing pretty clear intent to do so, and refunds are flowing.
The haircut is not ideal, but a trader can recoup the losses over time with this amount of capital preserved. There is a non-zero chance that things could go awry for the new site, or that the withdrawal limits or terms for verification are not agreeable. One thing that is clear for me is that I'm not willing to verify ID and continue doing business with a site under indictment by the US government. It's worth giving up 45% just not to have that kind of shit hanging over my head. I was no small fry either, although I never would have kept all my crypto funds on one exchange.
Those that are staying, I understand why. The rest can walk away and put this behind them (without worry of having funds stuck on the site for weeks or months on end, or being unable to verify, etc). It's just a matter of grinding back the losses...
I'll have about nearly $20k if I hold vs half that if I bail out. I'm going to hold. Like people have said BTC-e are doing a good job reimbursing people and look like playing more by the rules with the new site. I haven't done anything wrong and can prove where my coins came from. Do you really think the US authorities IF they ever got hold of the BTC-e user database on the new site are going to go through all possibly hundreds of thousands of accounts one by one on some sort of a witchhunt?? Not likely.
Yeah, it's unlikely. I would have liked to stay around for the new site, especially since they suggest that you will get > 55% if you stay. But as a US citizen, and with the FAQ they published, it just doesn't seem safe. Since I don't know the terms for withdrawals and verification (and I know I can't verify), the risks outweighed the potential benefits for me. And that's before you consider the whole FBI indictment matter....
At least having gotten out now, I can hedge my holdings as I see fit, instead of continuing to wait through all the volatility.
Its a really interesting dynamic having come back from this and attempting to fix the issue, most sites would pack it in at this point.
As a customer I would stay clear but feel for you guys waiting to get paid back from this.
As a customer I would stay clear but feel for you guys waiting to get paid back from this.
I'll have about nearly $20k if I hold vs half that if I bail out. I'm going to hold. Like people have said BTC-e are doing a good job reimbursing people and look like playing more by the rules with the new site. I haven't done anything wrong and can prove where my coins came from. Do you really think the US authorities IF they ever got hold of the BTC-e user database on the new site are going to go through all possibly hundreds of thousands of accounts one by one on some sort of a witchhunt?? Not likely.
i just chose the 55%. i chose it because, to me, there's too much risk in waiting. i waited for a while in the ltc mining scam (I even forgot the name now), wemineltc as well, gawminers, etc.
it's hard to have any sort of faith nowadays
I'm in the US and didn't have a problem with KYC, but...
edit: how long does it take?
about 2 hours later, so far nothing received
it's hard to have any sort of faith nowadays
I'm in the US and didn't have a problem with KYC, but...
edit: how long does it take?
about 2 hours later, so far nothing received
All I can say is I’m not pleased at losing 45% of my holdings to cash out now which was a new idea they came up with since making the original promise to not do that very thing.
There was no way I was going to leave any of my actually available funds on there another second. Good luck to those that have spun that dice...
There was no way I was going to leave any of my actually available funds on there another second. Good luck to those that have spun that dice...
That was your decision, not BTC-e's.
Only 9% of the users have chosen the 55% refund https://poll.pollcode.com/62684153_result?v
The vast majority are waiting until after Sep 15th.
I have only a few thousands and I also picked not to withdraw now. I'm going down with the ship if that is.
By allowing people to cash out 55%, and also actually sending out these funds, BTC-E has proven that they aren't thieves, but everything could have been done in a better way.I strongly believe that their 55% withdrawal offer isn't exactly fair, but very effective ~ it will allow them to lower their overall debt by using the 45% abandoned by those who agreed to withdraw to fill the gap.
I think it's fair to say that the increased crypto prices made accepting that 55% a whole lot more easy. In other words, the suffered losses will be compensated by the values that more or less doubled.
Well, with $100k+ in fiat, I missed the BTC train (and BCH), so I have less than half of what I would have had if I was in coin at the time. Taking a 50% loss now would bring that down to a quarter. Sure BTC trading is about betting, but now I'm betting those 50k that they will honor the payback rather than losing them with 100% certainty.
Bold move. I have only a few thousands and I also picked not to withdraw now. I'm going down with the ship if that is.
Well, with $100k+ in fiat, I missed the BTC train (and BCH), so I have less than half of what I would have had if I was in coin at the time. Taking a 50% loss now would bring that down to a quarter. Sure BTC trading is about betting, but now I'm betting those 50k that they will honor the payback rather than losing them with 100% certainty.
it all falls back on the saying "1 bird in hand is better then 2 in the bush"
Yeah, I understand that some people wants to cut their losses and get something back. But if BTC-E would plan to run with the money, they would have done so by now in my opinion. The major risk now is just the feds shutting them down again or something along those lines, I don't think they intend to rob people. So with that in mind, I'll take that bet. Also, a typo - I'm risking losing 25k of certain cash, but can potentially gain (or well, not lose) 75k more with a quite high percentage of success, so.. I'll let it ride. So I'm betting on the 4 birds in the bush instead of 1 in the hand
Well, with $100k+ in fiat, I missed the BTC train (and BCH), so I have less than half of what I would have had if I was in coin at the time. Taking a 50% loss now would bring that down to a quarter. Sure BTC trading is about betting, but now I'm betting those 50k that they will honor the payback rather than losing them with 100% certainty.
it all falls back on the saying "1 bird in hand is better then 2 in the bush"
Well, with $100k+ in fiat, I missed the BTC train (and BCH), so I have less than half of what I would have had if I was in coin at the time. Taking a 50% loss now would bring that down to a quarter. Sure BTC trading is about betting, but now I'm betting those 50k that they will honor the payback rather than losing them with 100% certainty.
I feel for you brother :-(
All I can say is I’m not pleased at losing 45% of my holdings to cash out now which was a new idea they came up with since making the original promise to not do that very thing.
There was no way I was going to leave any of my actually available funds on there another second. Good luck to those that have spun that dice...
There was no way I was going to leave any of my actually available funds on there another second. Good luck to those that have spun that dice...
Well, with $100k+ in fiat, I missed the BTC train (and BCH), so I have less than half of what I would have had if I was in coin at the time. Taking a 50% loss now would bring that down to a quarter. Sure BTC trading is about betting, but now I'm betting those 50k that they will honor the payback rather than losing them with 100% certainty.
i just received my litecoins from btc-e, which i am very happy with. is it really coincidence that now litecoin has tanked big time they sent out the coins? i don't think so, but considering that i bought my litecoins below $10, after this dump and losing the other 45% i am still in the profits. i hope for everyone else that btc-e ends up relaunching in a good manner so they can refund people properly. this chapter is closed for me.
Yeah price tanked because they are selling our 45% before releasing the 55% to us, ensuring liquidity and a good price for them. Won't ever be using them again.... Tossers!!
Lol.. The whole market tanked by 20+% over the last 2 days.
This all has got to do with BTC-e right.. OFcourse not..
Also to those thinking that the people that give up 45% now give you more money, that's bullshit. It's only less money they need to earn back to repay you. The 45% is the fiat that is inaccessible and lost.
Because of early withdraws we are able to control more than %55 of tokens when new platform switch to online .. yummy
And these withdraws makes me sure of btc e badass..
And these withdraws makes me sure of btc e badass..
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