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November 09, 2024, 04:30:42 PM
I'm excited more about bitcoins future and this gives me more confidence to acquire more bitcoin and continue my long term journey. Also other or lots of holders got inspired more to continue and increase their investment since they see good developments now that Trump became the President. This is early success gotten by bitcoin holders.
If they got inspired to continue their accumulation now only because Trump won the election, they are not committed investors and they probably have the trader's mindset which is looking for a favorable condition to enter back into the market and they may likely exit the market on a short term note and wait for another good news for bitcoin to buy more bitcoin. Bitcoin investment does not work that way. The Inspiration any investor needs is in the historic performance of bitcoin, the knowledge that bitcoin is a store of value, its capability of securing their financial future and he/she jumps right into investing, picks up one or more strategies with a long-term plan regardless of the speculations and not waiting for a favorable time to continue or start their investment.

That could be true though, but each of us surly has a starting point. joining the train now doesn't mean a failure or being too late. bitcoin volatile nature permits it to grow continually as time goes on and creat new ATH in each circle. Surely everyone must not start investment at thesame time, when you start your investment may be when you where are convinced to know the importance of bitcoin investment, or could possibly be that it was the time you knew bitcoin. so surely each of us has a beginning  and we must be serious to accumulate bitcoin and hope for the future benefits, and not feeling discouraged of the current price of bitcoin. because in the nearest future people will still regret of not had been accumulating when bitcoin was less than  $100k. So surely peoples success or achievements now should ring as a bell of reminder to accumulate now than becoming a procrastinator.
Those who are regretting that they missed buying bitcoin when it was cheaper like below $50k and refuse to take actions now would still live to regret it when it goes above $100k. The key to staying abreast and taking advantage of opportunities is taking action, without taking the right action towards investment in bitcoin currently, their regrets amounts to nothing because they never learnt from their previous mistakes. The right time to take action is NOW because procrastination is the lazy and foolish man's excuse.
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November 09, 2024, 04:18:19 PM
if the price goes down I look for money somehow to Buy Cheap,
Your statement here shows that you not yet prepare for Bitcoin investment and it seems their is no budget for discretionary income there are things you need to set available before going into Bitcoin investment you need to have a source of income or steady cash flow before thinking Bitcoin investment, looking for money to me can mean different thing it could be that you want to borrow money to invest in Bitcoin or probably asking a friend which you are not sure he will assist you trying to put pressure on your self.

You should remember you are investing for long so you need to invest with money you may not need for long like 4-10 and above and you can't achieve this when you are struggling to invest in Bitcoin.

It is never advisable to borrow money for Bitcoin investment.
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November 09, 2024, 03:55:23 PM
Is better to keep your DCAing going and when you have any free funds you can keep it as a reserve funds to buy the dip if you are the type that focus on buying the dip , though it ain't bad to buy the dip , but waiting for the dip alone is not smart at all to me because it may only slow down your bitcoin growth. And you can also use DCAing method to purchase the dip with that same reserve funds by spreading it out at different buying momentum. But don't stop your weekly or monthly accumulation.
Investors who regularly buy Bitcoin are usually reluctant to miss an opportunity to buy on the dip. But since dips usually don't give you any message, it's definitely a good idea to have an extra reserve fund to buy from the dip. Considering the current time it is natural that a bitcoin holder will not get the opportunity to buy from the dip. And to buy from the dip, he may have to wait a long time. But if one can continue the DCA strategy in one sense I think it does not require additional funds to buy from the dip. Of course those who just wait for the dip will lose their long-term bitcoin accumulation momentum which may prevent them from reaching the desired level in the future.
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November 09, 2024, 03:43:19 PM
Sure there is a bit of a presumption of lump sum with that hodl camp chart, since each time you look at an entry date for a supposed BTC purchase, then you are able to see how that specific purchase did with the passage of time.  

There likely is nothing wrong with having information about how purchases that we made on specific dates might play out with the passage of time, yet frequently, with the passage of time, we are likely going to end up with a variety of purchases with various costs and various amounts of BTC purchased, so the total quantity of BTC that we have is going to have various ways to assess how the totality might compare to the various individual parts (purchases) that might have taken place at various prices along the way.. and then what quantity of BTC did I choose to buy on the various dates.

There could be reasons that any of us might consider our BTC holdings in terms of a narrow number of purchases as compared with assessing our overall BTC portfolio costs and how many BTC that we have right now and what might be the value of the total of our BTC holdings in light of goals that we might have in regards to when we might consider starting to sell some of it.. or creating a plan in which we might sell certain amounts of our holdings based on current BTC prices (presumably selling on the way up rather than selling on the way down) or if we might choose to sell certain amounts of BTC based on time considerations.. so for example if we were to decide to start to sell 4% of our BTC holdings every year, then maybe we might consider that each quarter we might have a goal to sell 1% of our BTC holdings... yet we might not want to begin such selling of our BTC until we have first determined that we have enough BTC or more than enough BTC, and I doubt that our determination of whether we have enough or more than enough BTC would be based on merely our buying of certain slivers of our BTC stash on certain dates at various historical points.
To accumulate BTC you have to start from somewhere and then with passage of time one can derive his own strategy of how to accumulate specific number of BTC. If you have enough cash then one can go aggressive on accumulating Bitcoin but those who don't have enough cash and can't go aggressive can accumulate Bitcoins on dips.

I agree with the first part of your statement, which is that the better your cash reserves and cash backups the more aggressive you can be in terms of accumulating bitcoin, yet at the same time, you gotta be careful in your potentially causing delays for guys to get started investing into bitcoin, especially no coiners.  The main requirement to invest into bitcoin is having discretionary income, there is no requirement to have cash reserves at all. 

Sure, let's attempt to get practical.  There are likely a whole hell of a lot of people who have only 2-4 weeks worth of cash to deal with any shortages that they might have in their income or to deal with unexpected expenses that they might have, and sure if they are new to investing into bitcoin, then they likely are going to need to build up their backup funds to be larger than 2-4 weeks, yet they can build up their back up funds at the same rate that they are investing into bitcoin... so they may well be able to invest2-4 weeks of their expenses into bitcoin to match their back up funds and then build their bitcoin and their back up funds at the same rate until they get to at least 3 months of emergency funds plus some other 2-4 weeks additionally for their usual customary extra cushion of cash.. so just getting to 3 months of emergency funds and 3 months invested into bitcoin could take a decently long time to get to that level, and then perhaps they could start to increase their investment into bitcoin to higher levels after they have established at least their emergency funds to higher levels, but I am not suggesting at all that anyone with discretionary income should be delaying in their getting started investing in bitcoin, even if they might need to simultaneously take measures to get their cashflow management situation into a stronger status.

Regarding your bullshit proclamation that those who are not able to go aggressive should be setting up systems to buy on dips, that is a really dumb plan, especially for no coiners and/or low coiners. 

The best strategy for no coiners, low coiners and those who are not in a very strong position to be aggressive is to DCA while they are getting their cashflow into a better situation that they are able to be more aggressive later.  And even when they get their cashflow into a better strength, they still likely should not be deviating from DCA until perhaps some later point where they have already accumulated a decent amount of BTC and/or perhaps they had engaged in a decent amount of front-loading their BTC investment.  I consider buying on dips to be a strategy that is more beneficial to guys who have already accumulated a lot of BTC, otherwise everyone should be buying right away and at any price and until they get to a point that they are accumulating a decent amount of BTC, and then once they reach a higher accumulation strategy, then at that point buying dips might become more reasonable for their luxurious situation.. . ..

In other words, waiting is not a good strategy for anyone who is a no coiner or low coiner, and buying on dips is a waiting strategy, and the overwhelming majority of the world's population is either no coiners or low coiners, whether they realize it or not.

The only limitation with buying on dips is that we don't when it's the start of the dip and when it's the bottom. There might be cases when we buying assuming that this is the bottom but price keep on falling. There are ways to mitigate this risk like not to buy at one price rather buy in chunks.

Even for yourself, if we go by your forum registration date MusaPk, you have only been in bitcoin for around 2 years.  So you believe that you are advantaged by fucking around waiting for dips that may or may not happen?

You presume that you already have enough BTC or more than enough BTC to be prepared for UP?  Based on my earlier interactions with you, I have my doubts in any claims that you might make about having enough or that buying dips is a good strategy for you.. but hey whatever, you know your situation better than anyone else, including this here cat.

as a kind of lower end scenario, and then spot price could be projected from current price  or it could be anticipated either more conservatively or more optimistically, and even right now there is a 70% variance between our current spot price of $69k-ish and the 200WMA (which is $40.5k-ish)
The difference between spot price and 200 WMA will increase further as spot price of Bitcoin has gone up to 76k at the moment.

Ok. .. and how are you using that?  You are wanting to use that information in regards to changing your levels of aggressiveness in your BTC accumulation?  I personally doubt it is a good idea for anyone to be changing their levels of aggressiveness in their BTC accumulation based on BTC prices in their first whole cycle unless maybe they had purposefully engaged in some front loading of their investment, yet as a general principle, it seems that most folks should be getting through their first 4 years of BTC accumulation through DCA and persistent, consistent and ongoing BTC buying, yet sure, each person is entitled to tailorize his own strategy if he believes that some other way of accumulating bitcoin is better... such as waiting for dips that may or may not come.
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November 09, 2024, 02:58:59 PM
I'm looking at Bitcoin's current price movement, and truthfully, it's just a very good time to be alive! I hope that all fortune and prosperity will come in ALL of your lives, and may you spread positivity and optimism to the people around you, online and offline.

 Cool

Bitcoin to six digits is definitely going to happen during this cycle. SEVEN digits within the next two cycles?

Buy the DIP, and HODL

 Grin let's get excited while we accumulate and hodl  bitcoin for long-term,  seeing Bitcoin at 7 digits going to be spectacular, but first let hit the 6 digit first . But one thing wanna say is that Bitcoin at 6 digit not a time to rest, rather to keep accumulating and hodl for more further break through from BTC.

Now I think everyone is learning the Lesson , those who took advantage of buying in the Dip are just watching their investment rise beautifully, but those who have not managed or could not Buy for other reasons ,  not everything is lost, they have the DCA method , I am applying it , and so Whenever it is I am sure I can get my first bitcoin and at the End of the Day that is what matters , having it, if the rice goes up I am Happy , if the price goes down I look for money somehow to Buy Cheap, it is all a Question of wanting.

I personally love taking dips during market dips with DCA. This is one of my investment strategies. Many say that waiting for the dip during DCA may be the wrong move, but I'm happy with this strategy so far. The advantage of this strategy is that you can enter both DCA and Dip strategies. Investing in DCA gives you the opportunity to buy at all market moments and you can keep separate funds ready for dips, which you can be aggressive in buying by understanding the market or you can buy dips, adopting your personal strategy. It would be a good choice for me to keep my DCA active and buy dips twice or thrice during market dips with funds ready for dips.

Is better to keep your DCAing going and when you have any free funds you can keep it as a reserve funds to buy the dip if you are the type that focus on buying the dip , though it ain't bad to buy the dip , but waiting for the dip alone is not smart at all to me because it may only slow down your bitcoin growth. And you can also use DCAing method to purchase the dip with that same reserve funds by spreading it out at different buying momentum. But don't stop your weekly or monthly accumulation.
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November 09, 2024, 02:37:50 PM
I'm looking at Bitcoin's current price movement, and truthfully, it's just a very good time to be alive! I hope that all fortune and prosperity will come in ALL of your lives, and may you spread positivity and optimism to the people around you, online and offline.
 Cool
Bitcoin to six digits is definitely going to happen during this cycle. SEVEN digits within the next two cycles?

Buy the DIP, and HODL
The advise you gave years ago in this thread which is "Buy the DIP, and HODL" have come to be one of the best many would have gotten in a life time. Those who followed that advice will look back to the moment they they took the decision to buy and HODL, and will be ever happy and proud to have chosen to obey even when it was looking so bleak and uncertain what the future held. I'm very excited to be part of those who took the chance and followed that clarion call and today we are gazing at out portfolio in joy and fulfilment. The future is looking so bright for Bitcoin and I can say that we are just getting started with the ride.

What we have now is still by extension what I consider the DIP as I have high expectations from Bitcoin, being someone that is playing for long term.
Having foresight and patience is truly rewarding. Those who've keyed into Windfury's hypothesis have held onto their Bitcoin through its ups and downs. The "Buy the Dip, HOLD" strategy has proven to be a winning method for most Bitcoin investors. I am glad that most of us have been able to reap the reward now. It's a confirmation of the power of patience and long-term thinking in Bitcoin. The future of Bitcoin looks very promising as years go by so it's never too late for anyone to still benefit from this strategy. With each year passing, Bitcoin gets more adoption, it becomes a center of attraction and value.

Trump paid with Bitcoin today, first move to push the price up.

Soruce

Trump becomes first president to pay in Bitcoin: ‘Very easy’
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November 09, 2024, 01:47:41 PM
Now I think everyone is learning the Lesson , those who took advantage of buying in the Dip are just watching their investment rise beautifully, but those who have not managed or could not Buy for other reasons ,  not everything is lost, they have the DCA method , I am applying it , and so Whenever it is I am sure I can get my first bitcoin and at the End of the Day that is what matters , having it, if the rice goes up I am Happy , if the price goes down I look for money somehow to Buy Cheap, it is all a Question of wanting.

I personally love taking dips during market dips with DCA. This is one of my investment strategies. Many say that waiting for the dip during DCA may be the wrong move, but I'm happy with this strategy so far. The advantage of this strategy is that you can enter both DCA and Dip strategies. Investing in DCA gives you the opportunity to buy at all market moments and you can keep separate funds ready for dips, which you can be aggressive in buying by understanding the market or you can buy dips, adopting your personal strategy. It would be a good choice for me to keep my DCA active and buy dips twice or thrice during market dips with funds ready for dips.
Well you can always combine all the strategy in your bitcoin accumulation journey ,you can be doing dca and also buy the dips when you have the extra cash and also lump sum.so i don't think anyone is against you combining the dca strategy and any of the other two strategy. But it would not be advisable for a newbie who has not started there bitcoin accumulation journey to be waiting and timing  the market for a desire dip , waiting is not one of the strategy  for accumulating bitcoin and also they may miss so many market opportunities so that is why it is good for a newbie to start with the dca strategy and as time goes by he can buy the dip and also do lumpsum if an additional cash arises
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November 09, 2024, 01:22:46 PM
Bitcoin has created yet a new ATH today from the previous price of $73k to current price of $75,358.70, this is a good sign to encourage investors to buy more and HODl and never to procrastinate. Never forget to buy now, since it's an opportunity that many never come again in the nearest future.

Don't forget to buy bitcoin with the following strategy

#Buy bitcoin through lump sum strategy
#Buy bitcoin through the dip strategy
#Buy bitcoin through DCA strategy

All works best for for a good accumulation process

At time like this DCAing still win it , so one just have to keep his DCAing going even those who started their DCAing weeks back are already in a good profit, which shows that bitcoin ain't  waiting for no one it's on its way to $100k and  above soon .  Wink

Woke up  yestersday with a big smile 😊 on my face after seeing BTC recent price , and now BTC ATH is around the price range of $76k and there's still more space for growth , and the funny thing is that now is still a good time to hop in so those that are thinking that is already too late, it isn't you can still start now . I thought the same back then like a year back but now I am feeling like an early adopter  Grin
Yes, I agree that the DCA strategy is still important because we are in our accumulation stage, and we should maintain our initial strategy and don't be carried away by the price of bitcoin. If there's one who wants to invest in bitcoin aggressively because of its price, the person should do it in such a way it will stop him from sorting out his daily expenses, which might take him off the game because our purpose is for a long-term hold.
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November 09, 2024, 01:20:46 PM
I disagree with you, waiting for a dip in other to invest is not a good idea, when waiting for the dip what if it didn't happen that means you have wasted the time you would have accumulated little using DCA strategy.
Those that are involve in DCA strategy always accumulate more than those always waiting for a dip before they can invest.
Why wait for a dip before you can invest, why not accumulate little by little weekly or monthly.
Bitcoin will not remain at this same price in 10 to 20 years to come so if you start accumulating now you will benefit.
Those who always wait for a dip to happen before they can buy are traders and not long term investor.
What you said is true because I personally also often see traders who spend more time waiting for the price of Bitcoin to drop again so they can buy it at a low price before they sell it back into the market again. Meanwhile, I think investors do not need to apply such a waiting strategy because every investor must always use their time as best as possible when they want to invest, so using a method like DCA is still more appropriate for investors than using the method used by every trader at this time, which seems to be more of a waste of time.
Thoughts on waiting for the price to drop before venturing into investing is a strategy often used by traders, their profits are made from the impact gotten from the time of purchase and when they sell and this approach is usually for a short period of time.

Unlike the investors, our budgets are placed on the long run and waiting for the said projected time (assumed time for the price to DIP) only poses more misfortune due to uncertainty whether the assumptions will go as planned.

Growing our investment does not base solely on just one strategy, advanced techniques are applied which comprises of different strategies in their perfect condition and when fit to match in the demand.
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November 09, 2024, 11:58:17 AM
Now I think everyone is learning the Lesson , those who took advantage of buying in the Dip are just watching their investment rise beautifully, but those who have not managed or could not Buy for other reasons ,  not everything is lost, they have the DCA method , I am applying it , and so Whenever it is I am sure I can get my first bitcoin and at the End of the Day that is what matters , having it, if the rice goes up I am Happy , if the price goes down I look for money somehow to Buy Cheap, it is all a Question of wanting.

I personally love taking dips during market dips with DCA. This is one of my investment strategies. Many say that waiting for the dip during DCA may be the wrong move, but I'm happy with this strategy so far. The advantage of this strategy is that you can enter both DCA and Dip strategies. Investing in DCA gives you the opportunity to buy at all market moments and you can keep separate funds ready for dips, which you can be aggressive in buying by understanding the market or you can buy dips, adopting your personal strategy. It would be a good choice for me to keep my DCA active and buy dips twice or thrice during market dips with funds ready for dips.
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November 09, 2024, 11:32:56 AM
I disagree with you, waiting for a dip in other to invest is not a good idea, when waiting for the dip what if it didn't happen that means you have wasted the time you would have accumulated little using DCA strategy.
Those that are involve in DCA strategy always accumulate more than those always waiting for a dip before they can invest.
Why wait for a dip before you can invest, why not accumulate little by little weekly or monthly.
Bitcoin will not remain at this same price in 10 to 20 years to come so if you start accumulating now you will benefit.
Those who always wait for a dip to happen before they can buy are traders and not long term investor.

Honestly, I will not encourage anyone to wait for a dip before starting to invest in Bitcoin. I feel that waiting is just a way of wasting time because there’s no assurance that the Bitcoin price will come down to the level someone might have in mind to start buying. By waiting, one might miss out on an opportunity to invest in Bitcoin.if someone wants to invest in Bitcoin but doesn’t want to buy all at once, they can use the Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) method, which allows them to buy at different price levels.

The truth is that many people have missed many opportunities to invest in Bitcoin due to this idea of waiting for a dip. Many had the chance to invest when Bitcoin was still in the range of $20,000 to $25,000 but wanted the price to come down to $16,000, so they refused to buy. Even now, they continue with this mindset. When Bitcoin reaches $50,000, they hope it will drop to $40,000. So now with this Bitcoin current price some set of people will still be waiting to drop to $65 or less. may still be I feel that waiting for a dip is really just wasting time and missing opportunities when it comes to Bitcoin investment.
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November 09, 2024, 11:08:27 AM
I'm looking at Bitcoin's current price movement, and truthfully, it's just a very good time to be alive! I hope that all fortune and prosperity will come in ALL of your lives, and may you spread positivity and optimism to the people around you, online and offline.
 Cool
Bitcoin to six digits is definitely going to happen during this cycle. SEVEN digits within the next two cycles?

Buy the DIP, and HODL
The advise you gave years ago in this thread which is "Buy the DIP, and HODL" have come to be one of the best many would have gotten in a life time. Those who followed that advice will look back to the moment they they took the decision to buy and HODL, and will be ever happy and proud to have chosen to obey even when it was looking so bleak and uncertain what the future held. I'm very excited to be part of those who took the chance and followed that clarion call and today we are gazing at out portfolio in joy and fulfilment. The future is looking so bright for Bitcoin and I can say that we are just getting started with the ride.

What we have now is still by extension what I consider the DIP as I have high expectations from Bitcoin, being someone that is playing for long term.
I don't think that any of those early investors who were able to accumulate bitcoin with only buy the dip method, or let me use this circle, that those who started their bitcoin journey in 2022 used only buy the dip method to accumulate all the bitcoin in their portfolio currently with the amount of profit their portfolio is in. Because we all know that buying at the dip strategy only will not add any significant increase to your portfolio as a new investor and it is a wrong approach for new beginners to adopt.

It is the DCA method that a lot of us have been able to use to acquire the quantity of bitcoin in our portfolio currently, so I will say Kudos for all those investors who were able to take their bitcoin investment accumulation journey serious by buying continuously every week with DCA in a consistent and persistent manner to build and grow their bitcoin stash and hodli overtime till getting to your bitcoin target, and mixing it with buy dip and lump sum strategy based on our own situation playing around us, and tweaking easily to keep our bitcoin accumulation ongoing because we are all winners.

I am saying all these so that newbies reading this thread will not be mislead that  Buy the DIP, and HODL! is the best strategy for them to accumulate bitcoin, when getting started right away with DCA method for gradual buying every week consistently to build their portfolio overtime for a start is more effective than waiting for the dip, that comes like a thief in the night.
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November 09, 2024, 10:19:59 AM

The advise you gave years ago in this thread which is "Buy the DIP, and HODL" have come to be one of the best many would have gotten in a life time. Those who followed that advice will look back to the moment they they took the decision to buy and HODL, and will be ever happy and proud to have chosen to obey even when it was looking so bleak and uncertain what the future held. I'm very excited to be part of those who took the chance and followed that clarion call and today we are gazing at out portfolio in joy and fulfilment. The future is looking so bright for Bitcoin and I can say that we are just getting started with the ride.

What we have now is still by extension what I consider the DIP as I have high expectations from Bitcoin, being someone that is playing for long term.

Now I think everyone is learning the Lesson , those who took advantage of buying in the Dip are just watching their investment rise beautifully, but those who have not managed or could not Buy for other reasons ,  not everything is lost, they have the DCA method , I am applying it , and so Whenever it is I am sure I can get my first bitcoin and at the End of the Day that is what matters , having it, if the rice goes up I am Happy , if the price goes down I look for money somehow to Buy Cheap, it is all a Question of wanting.

And well, I've always liked this article by Block:

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Block provided further details on how they will implement the DCA strategy in its official statement. The company announced it will allocate 10% of its gross profits from Bitcoin-related products towards monthly purchases of Bitcoin.

“Under the DCA program, we plan to purchase Bitcoin on a monthly cadence, starting April 2024. We will execute these over a shorter time window due to lower notional trade values and improved Bitcoin liquidity compared to 2020 and 2021. To reduce slippage, we have chosen to purchase Bitcoin over a two-hour window that has historically had the greatest amount of liquidity,” the company explained.

original source: https://beincrypto.com/block-jack-dorsey-bitcoin-dca-strategy/

DCA is my way out even if bitcoin continues to rise in price.
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November 09, 2024, 09:26:11 AM
I'm looking at Bitcoin's current price movement, and truthfully, it's just a very good time to be alive! I hope that all fortune and prosperity will come in ALL of your lives, and may you spread positivity and optimism to the people around you, online and offline.
 Cool
Bitcoin to six digits is definitely going to happen during this cycle. SEVEN digits within the next two cycles?

Buy the DIP, and HODL
The advise you gave years ago in this thread which is "Buy the DIP, and HODL" have come to be one of the best many would have gotten in a life time. Those who followed that advice will look back to the moment they they took the decision to buy and HODL, and will be ever happy and proud to have chosen to obey even when it was looking so bleak and uncertain what the future held. I'm very excited to be part of those who took the chance and followed that clarion call and today we are gazing at out portfolio in joy and fulfilment. The future is looking so bright for Bitcoin and I can say that we are just getting started with the ride.

What we have now is still by extension what I consider the DIP as I have high expectations from Bitcoin, being someone that is playing for long term.
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November 09, 2024, 08:18:18 AM
I'm looking at Bitcoin's current price movement, and truthfully, it's just a very good time to be alive! I hope that all fortune and prosperity will come in ALL of your lives, and may you spread positivity and optimism to the people around you, online and offline.

 Cool

Bitcoin to six digits is definitely going to happen during this cycle. SEVEN digits within the next two cycles?

Buy the DIP, and HODL
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November 09, 2024, 07:17:15 AM
I disagree with you, waiting for a dip in other to invest is not a good idea, when waiting for the dip what if it didn't happen that means you have wasted the time you would have accumulated little using DCA strategy.
Those that are involve in DCA strategy always accumulate more than those always waiting for a dip before they can invest.
Why wait for a dip before you can invest, why not accumulate little by little weekly or monthly.
Bitcoin will not remain at this same price in 10 to 20 years to come so if you start accumulating now you will benefit.
Those who always wait for a dip to happen before they can buy are traders and not long term investor.
What you said is true because I personally also often see traders who spend more time waiting for the price of Bitcoin to drop again so they can buy it at a low price before they sell it back into the market again. Meanwhile, I think investors do not need to apply such a waiting strategy because every investor must always use their time as best as possible when they want to invest, so using a method like DCA is still more appropriate for investors than using the method used by every trader at this time, which seems to be more of a waste of time.
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November 09, 2024, 07:06:11 AM
Sure there is a bit of a presumption of lump sum with that hodl camp chart, since each time you look at an entry date for a supposed BTC purchase, then you are able to see how that specific purchase did with the passage of time.  

There likely is nothing wrong with having information about how purchases that we made on specific dates might play out with the passage of time, yet frequently, with the passage of time, we are likely going to end up with a variety of purchases with various costs and various amounts of BTC purchased, so the total quantity of BTC that we have is going to have various ways to assess how the totality might compare to the various individual parts (purchases) that might have taken place at various prices along the way.. and then what quantity of BTC did I choose to buy on the various dates.

There could be reasons that any of us might consider our BTC holdings in terms of a narrow number of purchases as compared with assessing our overall BTC portfolio costs and how many BTC that we have right now and what might be the value of the total of our BTC holdings in light of goals that we might have in regards to when we might consider starting to sell some of it.. or creating a plan in which we might sell certain amounts of our holdings based on current BTC prices (presumably selling on the way up rather than selling on the way down) or if we might choose to sell certain amounts of BTC based on time considerations.. so for example if we were to decide to start to sell 4% of our BTC holdings every year, then maybe we might consider that each quarter we might have a goal to sell 1% of our BTC holdings... yet we might not want to begin such selling of our BTC until we have first determined that we have enough BTC or more than enough BTC, and I doubt that our determination of whether we have enough or more than enough BTC would be based on merely our buying of certain slivers of our BTC stash on certain dates at various historical points.

To accumulate BTC you have to start from somewhere and then with passage of time one can derive his own strategy of how to accumulate specific number of BTC. If you have enough cash then one can go aggressive on accumulating Bitcoin but those who don't have enough cash and can't go aggressive can accumulate Bitcoins on dips. The only limitation with buying on dips is that we don't when it's the start of the dip and when it's the bottom. There might be cases when we buying assuming that this is the bottom but price keep on falling. There are ways to mitigate this risk like not to buy at one price rather buy in chunks.
I disagree with you, waiting for a dip in other to invest is not a good idea, when waiting for the dip what if it didn't happen that means you have wasted the time you would have accumulated little using DCA strategy.
Those that are involve in DCA strategy always accumulate more than those always waiting for a dip before they can invest.
Why wait for a dip before you can invest, why not accumulate little by little weekly or monthly.
Bitcoin will not remain at this same price in 10 to 20 years to come so if you start accumulating now you will benefit.
Those who always wait for a dip to happen before they can buy are traders and not long term investor.
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November 09, 2024, 06:48:07 AM

Because of the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve, I therefore change my personal viewpoint. I no longer care for six digits, it's NOW SEVEN DIGITS! - $1,000,000 per Bitcoin.

I think we should wait till the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve is implemented before we can talk of a price target of 7 digits because for now, it is assumed that every positive thing Donald Trump said about bitcoin is still a mere campaign strategy till when he assumes office and start implementing them one after another. But whether strategic or no strategic reserve, bitcoin will still approach $1,000,000 and that is the most important thing. The only difference is that if bitcoin becomes a strategic reserve, there will be a driven force that will spark the price to experience a breakthrough and approach unbelievable milestone more faster than it would have been without being a strategic reserve.

We don't just have to worry about the price of Bitcoin, we have to increase our investment as the price of Bitcoin increases. Because if we don't invest as soon as possible then we must regret later, Bitcoin price will surely touch 7 digits and it is most likely to reach 150k dollars.
So as of now we only need to follow the DCA method in Bitcoin as the price of Bitcoin is still under considerable control of investors. Because the price of Bitcoin has started to rise, we can feel that the current time is the pre-bull market, and the price of Bitcoin will start to rise from now, and it will be resolved in 2025.

Your approach is a bit wired to me, that bitcoin price is increasing doesn't mean that an investor should go outside his means to invest more in bitcoin. Even before the increase started investors already knew that a time like this will definitely come, so it didn't take us by surprise. So you don't go about spending more of your income in bitcoin, because bitcoin has started increasing. Remember our daily needs don't reduce because bitcoin is increasing, instead our daily needs keeps increasing as well. So if you go out of your reach to invest more in bitcoin because bitcoin is increasing, which money will you use to attend to your daily needs/expenses? Even in bull or bear seasons, the only time you should increase your investment amount is when your resources increases.

This is problem of some investor since once they see a pump they became over excited then think about buying more compare on what they do regularly. This mentality could be associated with traders mindset which provably we don't want to implicate since there's huge chance we will fell off with this decision since there's a chance that we go crazy if suddenly there's a price correction will happen.

That's why its better to continue to do our thing and lets ignore the price since those situation would just destroy our plans which provably can cause us to lose our bitcoins. Keeping our focus despite of the pump happened is important since in long term investment those consistent people always win.
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November 09, 2024, 06:16:53 AM
Sure there is a bit of a presumption of lump sum with that hodl camp chart, since each time you look at an entry date for a supposed BTC purchase, then you are able to see how that specific purchase did with the passage of time.  

There likely is nothing wrong with having information about how purchases that we made on specific dates might play out with the passage of time, yet frequently, with the passage of time, we are likely going to end up with a variety of purchases with various costs and various amounts of BTC purchased, so the total quantity of BTC that we have is going to have various ways to assess how the totality might compare to the various individual parts (purchases) that might have taken place at various prices along the way.. and then what quantity of BTC did I choose to buy on the various dates.

There could be reasons that any of us might consider our BTC holdings in terms of a narrow number of purchases as compared with assessing our overall BTC portfolio costs and how many BTC that we have right now and what might be the value of the total of our BTC holdings in light of goals that we might have in regards to when we might consider starting to sell some of it.. or creating a plan in which we might sell certain amounts of our holdings based on current BTC prices (presumably selling on the way up rather than selling on the way down) or if we might choose to sell certain amounts of BTC based on time considerations.. so for example if we were to decide to start to sell 4% of our BTC holdings every year, then maybe we might consider that each quarter we might have a goal to sell 1% of our BTC holdings... yet we might not want to begin such selling of our BTC until we have first determined that we have enough BTC or more than enough BTC, and I doubt that our determination of whether we have enough or more than enough BTC would be based on merely our buying of certain slivers of our BTC stash on certain dates at various historical points.

To accumulate BTC you have to start from somewhere and then with passage of time one can derive his own strategy of how to accumulate specific number of BTC. If you have enough cash then one can go aggressive on accumulating Bitcoin but those who don't have enough cash and can't go aggressive can accumulate Bitcoins on dips. The only limitation with buying on dips is that we don't when it's the start of the dip and when it's the bottom. There might be cases when we buying assuming that this is the bottom but price keep on falling. There are ways to mitigate this risk like not to buy at one price rather buy in chunks.
  

as a kind of lower end scenario, and then spot price could be projected from current price  or it could be anticipated either more conservatively or more optimistically, and even right now there is a 70% variance between our current spot price of $69k-ish and the 200WMA (which is $40.5k-ish)

The difference between spot price and 200 WMA will increase further as spot price of Bitcoin has gone up to 76k at the moment.
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November 09, 2024, 04:43:40 AM

Because of the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve, I therefore change my personal viewpoint. I no longer care for six digits, it's NOW SEVEN DIGITS! - $1,000,000 per Bitcoin.

I think we should wait till the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve is implemented before we can talk of a price target of 7 digits because for now, it is assumed that every positive thing Donald Trump said about bitcoin is still a mere campaign strategy till when he assumes office and start implementing them one after another. But whether strategic or no strategic reserve, bitcoin will still approach $1,000,000 and that is the most important thing. The only difference is that if bitcoin becomes a strategic reserve, there will be a driven force that will spark the price to experience a breakthrough and approach unbelievable milestone more faster than it would have been without being a strategic reserve.

We don't just have to worry about the price of Bitcoin, we have to increase our investment as the price of Bitcoin increases. Because if we don't invest as soon as possible then we must regret later, Bitcoin price will surely touch 7 digits and it is most likely to reach 150k dollars.
So as of now we only need to follow the DCA method in Bitcoin as the price of Bitcoin is still under considerable control of investors. Because the price of Bitcoin has started to rise, we can feel that the current time is the pre-bull market, and the price of Bitcoin will start to rise from now, and it will be resolved in 2025.

I see some kind of mix up and contradiction in what you're saying here but what i will just advise you or anyone else is not to use because volatility is pushing the price of bitcoin upwards due to some market trends that occurred recently and feel it is the best time to invest more aggressively because you might end up in a state of confusion when your expectations do not meet your targets. Invest with any discretionary amount you can afford to lose and forget about the market trends. You need to know that bitcoin is not a do or die investment whereby if anyone is unable to invest now that they will regret it, so we should not put ourselves in any form of pressure just because investors are rushing to acquire more bitcoins because you don't know their net worth and if those that are rushing to invest are already made wealthy people, any amount they invest will not hurt them because they know they can afford to lose it but for someone who is not financially stable or have a reliable source of income and to panic about buying immediately, it's definitely a wrong investment approach.
         The price of bitcoin being under the control of investors is based on individual assessment and not on a general note because there are still investors who may as well feel that the price is way too high for them to buy now even though they can afford it.
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