Topic: Bytecoin [BCN] vs MONERO [XMR] who will be the winner in the Cryptonote War (Read 15734 times)
February 14, 2018, 01:52:52 AM
I realized Monero is scam as soon as I downloaded their wallet
September 28, 2017, 11:13:20 AM
BCN vs XMR => a disproportionate comparison 
September 28, 2017, 10:06:29 AM
BCN looks dead to me. No buy support. Extreme selling pressure on Poloniex. We don't need to mention about BCN any more. The candidate to compete with XMR is BBR - BoolBerry
This isn't the case.
Monero has several long term competitors that could eventually ruin us if they do everything right. (Doing everything right is hard!) Boolberry is not one of them.
Boolberry is offering Litecoin over Bitcoin functionality where little changes are being hailed as revolutionary. It's the exact same situation I remember with Litecoin, the POW algo, the four times faster transactions, etc... Like I have said many times, if Litecoin overtakes Bitcoin most of the money will leave CryptoCoins for good. The same goes for Boolberry, if Boolberry overtakes Monero it's a signal to the market that no CryptoNote can hold value due to fear of competitor with small changes. If BBR overtakes XMR most of the money will leave CryptoNote and never come back, you'd be a fool to invest after something like that happens.
Anyway, Boolberries and Bytecoin are not a threat, Monero's longterm competition are coins that offer a substantially better system.
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Bitmonero was announced 11 days before Boolberry. Bitmonero was launched 4/18. Bitmonero was taken over around 4/24 and renamed Monero. Boolberry was launched 5/17. Both were forks of Bytecoin. Portraying BBR as an XMR fork with minor differences is not just misleading but a lie.
Both BBR and XMR were launched to correct perceived shortcomings in Bytecoin.
BCN is being loaded by XMR insiders now as a lottery type pick from 33 satoshis it's a no brainer wayyy more upside to Bytecoin :-D weeeee
https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_bcn
_!_ >.> hodl BCN gentlemen!
August 06, 2014, 05:56:55 AM
This is quite an undynamic argument. Whatever happened to championing the technology behind these currencies? Without development they're both going nowhere, and the devs have gotta be on the ball with finding innovative ways to apply cnote regardless.
By making assumptions of other people being trolls, you yourself start looking trollish. But I'm not accusing you guys in any way, because that's what it would be: just assumptions..
By making assumptions of other people being trolls, you yourself start looking trollish. But I'm not accusing you guys in any way, because that's what it would be: just assumptions..
Those aren't assumptions, bytecoin is using fake accounts: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7505638
You cant get better proof then someone like onemorebtc even admitting that he sold his account that is now used by bytecoin.
Claiming that a coin is using fake accounts is a bit of a stretch. There are many shills around the forums and attempting to attribute them to one coin or another isn’t going to get you far – there are people that try to sabotage other coins by doing just that. Not to mention there are backers of coins that may purchase accounts; it doesn’t mean that the coin’s developers are the ones doing it.
July 28, 2014, 06:48:34 AM
A brief exlanation of why this discussion is pointless and... stupid.
Apparently none of these two is perfect. Stop repeating the same statements, let people make up their own opinion. Back in the days i was fortunate enough to never come across a thread like this one (or maybe they didnt even exist). So i was able to think and make choices . And i chose Bytecoin and i dont regret it.
Apparently none of these two is perfect. Stop repeating the same statements, let people make up their own opinion. Back in the days i was fortunate enough to never come across a thread like this one (or maybe they didnt even exist). So i was able to think and make choices . And i chose Bytecoin and i dont regret it.
Agreed, but really it shouldn't be about choosing at all - the coins themselves are somewhat means to an end, it's the technology behind them that really matters. That's what a) is going to survive and b) has the potential to spawn all sorts of reincarnations which will have the support and knowledge behind them to go further and be more successful.
July 25, 2014, 02:29:41 PM
A brief exlanation of why this discussion is pointless and... stupid.
Apparently none of these two is perfect. Stop repeating the same statements, let people make up their own opinion. Back in the days i was fortunate enough to never come across a thread like this one (or maybe they didnt even exist). So i was able to think and make choices . And i chose Bytecoin and i dont regret it.
Apparently none of these two is perfect. Stop repeating the same statements, let people make up their own opinion. Back in the days i was fortunate enough to never come across a thread like this one (or maybe they didnt even exist). So i was able to think and make choices . And i chose Bytecoin and i dont regret it.
July 25, 2014, 05:01:51 AM
This is quite an undynamic argument. Whatever happened to championing the technology behind these currencies? Without development they're both going nowhere, and the devs have gotta be on the ball with finding innovative ways to apply cnote regardless.
By making assumptions of other people being trolls, you yourself start looking trollish. But I'm not accusing you guys in any way, because that's what it would be: just assumptions..
By making assumptions of other people being trolls, you yourself start looking trollish. But I'm not accusing you guys in any way, because that's what it would be: just assumptions..
Those aren't assumptions, bytecoin is using fake accounts: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7505638
You cant get better proof then someone like onemorebtc even admitting that he sold his account that is now used by bytecoin.
I'm not sure one account's enough to assume a rotten apple though to be honest, and of course proving the dev's involvement is another thing.
No need to argue right now... We will only be able to tell who is the winner after some time. What is happening to Monero today is a good pump. What's gonna happen next? Dump? or success? We can't tell.
Agreed, arguing wasn't what I intended.. but somehow there needs to be some news soon that isn't conjecture - like for example that thread that appeared earlier about difficulty flaws, hope it doesn't give people the fear.
July 24, 2014, 01:47:50 PM
No need to argue right now... We will only be able to tell who is the winner after some time. What is happening to Monero today is a good pump. What's gonna happen next? Dump? or success? We can't tell.
hey, at least something is happening
July 24, 2014, 01:44:08 PM
No need to argue right now... We will only be able to tell who is the winner after some time. What is happening to Monero today is a good pump. What's gonna happen next? Dump? or success? We can't tell.
July 24, 2014, 01:39:04 PM
This is quite an undynamic argument. Whatever happened to championing the technology behind these currencies? Without development they're both going nowhere, and the devs have gotta be on the ball with finding innovative ways to apply cnote regardless.
By making assumptions of other people being trolls, you yourself start looking trollish. But I'm not accusing you guys in any way, because that's what it would be: just assumptions..
By making assumptions of other people being trolls, you yourself start looking trollish. But I'm not accusing you guys in any way, because that's what it would be: just assumptions..
Those aren't assumptions, bytecoin is using fake accounts: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7505638
You cant get better proof then someone like onemorebtc even admitting that he sold his account that is now used by bytecoin.
July 24, 2014, 05:32:53 AM
This is quite an undynamic argument. Whatever happened to championing the technology behind these currencies? Without development they're both going nowhere, and the devs have gotta be on the ball with finding innovative ways to apply cnote regardless.
By making assumptions of other people being trolls, you yourself start looking trollish. But I'm not accusing you guys in any way, because that's what it would be: just assumptions..
By making assumptions of other people being trolls, you yourself start looking trollish. But I'm not accusing you guys in any way, because that's what it would be: just assumptions..
July 23, 2014, 02:04:43 PM
I've also never seen anybody but Monero trolls claiming Bytecoin is premined.
Well that's not true at all.
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#bytecoin
He already knows that Bytecoin is 80% premined but he is holding too many Bytecoins to deny that
July 23, 2014, 01:58:00 PM
I've also never seen anybody but Monero trolls claiming Bytecoin is premined.
Well that's not true at all.
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#bytecoin
July 23, 2014, 01:46:40 PM
Monero is winning and will win the race. 80% Premine of bytecoin will never let it grow.
Monero Volume 24h $ 312,868
Bytecoin Volume 24h $ 2,225
Monero Volume 24h $ 312,868
Bytecoin Volume 24h $ 2,225
Are you even competent enough to claim Bytecoin is premined? No, you're not. Then stop saying that.
Typical empty argument by a (paid) Bytecoin shill.
Everyone is competent enough to claim that, because it's a simple fact, you can't ignore that lol.
Are you competent enough to post on a forum? No, apparantly you're not. Then stop posting.
I really wonder if you guys are all getting paid by just posting some stupid stuff that makes absolutely no sense.
I've never seen anybody present a legit PROOF of that simple fact.
I've also never seen anybody but Monero trolls claiming Bytecoin is premined.
A conclusion inevitably comes to mind...
July 23, 2014, 01:16:55 PM
Monero is winning and will win the race. 80% Premine of bytecoin will never let it grow.
Monero Volume 24h $ 312,868
Bytecoin Volume 24h $ 2,225
Monero Volume 24h $ 312,868
Bytecoin Volume 24h $ 2,225
Are you even competent enough to claim Bytecoin is premined? No, you're not. Then stop saying that.
Typical empty argument by a (paid) Bytecoin shill.
Everyone is competent enough to claim that, because it's a simple fact, you can't ignore that lol.
Are you competent enough to post on a forum? No, apparantly you're not. Then stop posting.
I really wonder if you guys are all getting paid by just posting some stupid stuff that makes absolutely no sense.
July 23, 2014, 01:08:41 PM
Monero is winning and will win the race. 80% Premine of bytecoin will never let it grow.
Monero Volume 24h $ 312,868
Bytecoin Volume 24h $ 2,225
Monero Volume 24h $ 312,868
Bytecoin Volume 24h $ 2,225
Are you even competent enough to claim Bytecoin is premined? No, you're not. Then stop saying that.
July 23, 2014, 01:04:57 PM
Wow, comments up there are.... amazingly ignorant. Monero supporters started celebrating waay too early. 
Where are we celebrating? We are fighting for our coin, it's really that simple.
Many Monero supporters never supported an alt coin before, we see something great in Monero.
But please, what scamcoin would you prefer us to be buying?
I'm sorry, but a "scamcoin" must be something you have already bought and now trying to "fight" for it.
The only obvious scamcoin in this discussion is Bytecoin.
The market had already decided that long ago, Monero is establishing higher lows after rallies while BCN is slowly dying as more people learn themselves that it's a huge premine scam instead of listening to all the (paid) Bytecoin trolls/shills.
Also BCN volume is pathetic, between 0.5-1% of Monero's. There is absolutely no need for Monero users to "fight" in this discussion because Bytecoin dug it's own grave the second the premine began.
And now you're just contradicting yourself. No need to "fight" in this discussion? Then why are you here?
Anyway, Im really sorry for those who got fooled by Monero trolls.
Haha you're funny mate, if you can read you can see I just stated facts.
Poloniex just replaced their LTC markets with XMR markets:
https://www.poloniex.com/press-releases/2014.07.23-Poloniex-Welcomes-New-Monero-XMR-Markets
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Monero, a private, secure, and untraceable cryptocurrency based on the CryptoNote protocol, has been the most actively traded cryptocurrency on Poloniex nearly every day since the addition of the XMR/BTC market. “Since its debut, Monero has been trading in huge volume and has demonstrated impressive resilience during market fluctuations,” Poloniex owner, Tristan D’Agosta stated. “Couple that with an active and strategic development team, and expanding our XMR pairings simply made good sense for our customers.”
So again, there is absolutely no need to "fight" because it's so obvious.
I truly find it a shame that people got fooled by Bytecoin trolls/scammers but you can't say they haven't been warned many times and as always they should do their own due diligence before buying a coin.
July 23, 2014, 08:46:08 AM
Monero is winning and will win the race. 80% Premine of bytecoin will never let it grow.
Monero Volume 24h $ 312,868
Bytecoin Volume 24h $ 2,225
Monero Volume 24h $ 312,868
Bytecoin Volume 24h $ 2,225
July 23, 2014, 08:40:46 AM
I'd like to see the developers behind bytecoin come forward and destroy the premine in order to make the coin fair. I realize this probably is not going to happen so for me Monero is the winner. I do own some bytecoin, but mostly for short term speculation. I don't see how bytecoin can ever become big with the current issues unresolved. And perhaps it's best this way, I like the name "monero" from a marketing point of view.
I don't own any BBR, FCN, QCN or XDN, I believe in supporting the first fair release with a competent developer team, and that is monero.
I don't own any BBR, FCN, QCN or XDN, I believe in supporting the first fair release with a competent developer team, and that is monero.
July 23, 2014, 08:25:55 AM
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Ethereum They may be able to build an anonymity (ring sig?) layer on top of their turing complete blockchain, however it might very well be much less efficient than a native ring signature currency.
Conclusion: Watch this space, but don't be too afraid of an Ethereum based anonymous competitor.
Conclusion: Watch this space, but don't be too afraid of an Ethereum based anonymous competitor.
I saw an interview with vitalik buterin who mentioned monero using ring sigs and that they were very promising or something similar, he seemed more interested in it than like ethereum's gonna take it head on. Anyhow, cryptonote tech deserves to survive long enough to give ethereum a run for its money at least.
personally, I think both bcn and xmr could do with a lot more publicity to really get them going, as could cryptonote technology.. and it's not like ethereum's gonna be short of publicity anytime soon.
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