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Topic: Bytecoin [BCN] vs MONERO [XMR] who will be the winner in the Cryptonote War - page 4. (Read 15734 times)

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Lol ! Looks like trolls have come back ))

Darkota , there is no stupid people here to listen to you, and even large font won't help you to fool anybody.

Yea, if anyone wants to research for themselves, simply google/search this forum, and check the coin's blockchains..

You can check the Bytecoin Blockchain to see Bytecoin's 82% premine, and you can check Darkcoin's blockchain to see Darkcoin's 50% instamine.
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Lol ! Looks like trolls have come back ))

Darkota , there is no stupid people here to listen to you, and even large font won't help you to fool anybody.
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So Darkcoin and Bytecoin both have above 49% instamine/premines. They both have devs that just keep screwing up...and they both have shill/sockpuppet accounts supporters. GJ

But even Bytecoin, with it's 82% premine, at least offers anonymity....Darkcoin doesn't even allow you send more than 10 dark's through it's trivial coinjoin mixing.
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Darkcoin's Flaws:
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1) Darkcoin has a 50% instamine by it's own developers during launch, as the block reward was set to 500, and there was no windows wallets/miners. Evan, the developer, and Internetape, the other developer, instamined over 1million Darkcoin's within 24 hours.

2) Darkcoin's name itself, Darkcoin, will always be affiliated with illegal activity like the Darkweb, Drugs, etc, and the name itself ensures that Darkcoin will never reach anything close to mainstream acceptance.

3) Darkcoin's "anonymity" is based on coinjoin, it simply mixes users coins around, making it harder to track it. However, if even the slightest taint if found when mixing the coins, an investigator will be able to deduce who sent what and who received what. The maker of coinjoin, Gmaxwell, deeply criticized Darkcoin since it's coinjoin based "anonymity" is basically a joke.

4) Darkcoin's mixing system/coinjoin relies on something called Masternodes, Masternodes are nodes that are set up by people, anyone can set one up, and Masternodes are the things that mix the coin around. Masternodes also present many risks besides giving trivial "anonymity", if all masternodes are owned by one individual, he will be able to "de-anonymize" Darkcoin and see all transactions clearly.

5) Darkcoin's Masternode Payment system has forked the network many times, and has failed Twice in the effort to pay the owners of Masternodes.

6) Darkcoin's Masternode/Darksend system is closed source, so that means the developers could be stealing coins, or doing any other malicious things, and it will remain unnoticed

7) The Masternodes can always be DDOSed, effectively shutting them down, if the majority of Masternodes were taken offline(they are mostly hosted on Amazon servers), then Darkcoin's trivial anonymity will completely shut off

Cool There are many many other flaws, it will take up too much space to list, so I've listed the main ones.




Bytecoin's Flaws:

1) 82% instamine by a small group of miners over the course of 2 years

2) Bytecoin devs are shown to be incompetant, they recently tried copy/pasting code from other Cryptonote coins and it resulted in their own codebase getting even buggier than it really is, resulting in users loosing their coins when they sent them in a transaction.


What do Darkcoin and Bytecoin have in common? They were both hugely unfairly mined(instamined/premined), with Darkcoin having a 50% instamine at it's launch by it's own development team, and Bytecoin having a 82% premine over the 2 years it was kept secret by a very small group of miners.
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I would go with BCN. Never go with the clone.
You are smart guy, aren't you?

I can't say the same about XMR scams. They just learned only one phrase and can't stop repeating it.
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I would go with BCN. Never go with the clone.
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this incessant squawking about drk is completely off-topic.  why not start a drk vs cn war thread if that is what you want?


People just like to fight about different things. How about not starting any more war threads???
I'm in! Because i don't want to see how XMR scams are doing their dirty job.
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this incessant squawking about drk is completely off-topic.  why not start a drk vs cn war thread if that is what you want?


People just like to fight about different things. How about not starting any more war threads???
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Me too. I was in love with XMR, but last two weeks literally convinced me to change my mind. It's become clear for me that XMR devs are scams

Seems like somebody did some research. Nice to see you here. Welcome to BCN community!
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What the hell happened to this thread??!!! Shocked

I just read the last few pages and would also like to know what's happened here! Not to use a soundbyte but really guys, what are you hoping to achieve with all this? Surely making peace not war is preferable to bashing - what will that do for any coin's success or the community image? Both are vitally important, I'm sure you wouldn't disagree there.

Peace, brother. IMO the best way to understand what coin is better is to wait a year or two and see what has happened to both.

Good point, i'm staying with Bytecoin.
Me too. I was in love with XMR, but last two weeks literally convinced me to change my mind. It's become clear for me that XMR devs are scams
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What the hell happened to this thread??!!! Shocked

I just read the last few pages and would also like to know what's happened here! Not to use a soundbyte but really guys, what are you hoping to achieve with all this? Surely making peace not war is preferable to bashing - what will that do for any coin's success or the community image? Both are vitally important, I'm sure you wouldn't disagree there.

Peace, brother. IMO the best way to understand what coin is better is to wait a year or two and see what has happened to both.

Good point, i'm staying with Bytecoin.
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What the hell happened to this thread??!!! Shocked

I just read the last few pages and would also like to know what's happened here! Not to use a soundbyte but really guys, what are you hoping to achieve with all this? Surely making peace not war is preferable to bashing - what will that do for any coin's success or the community image? Both are vitally important, I'm sure you wouldn't disagree there.

Peace, brother. IMO the best way to understand what coin is better is to wait a year or two and see what has happened to both.
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What the hell happened to this thread??!!! Shocked

I just read the last few pages and would also like to know what's happened here! Not to use a soundbyte but really guys, what are you hoping to achieve with all this? Surely making peace not war is preferable to bashing - what will that do for any coin's success or the community image? Both are vitally important, I'm sure you wouldn't disagree there.

Finally we got a normal person here.
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Carpe Diem
What the hell happened to this thread??!!! Shocked

I just read the last few pages and would also like to know what's happened here! Not to use a soundbyte but really guys, what are you hoping to achieve with all this? Surely making peace not war is preferable to bashing - what will that do for any coin's success or the community image? Both are vitally important, I'm sure you wouldn't disagree there.
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What the hell happened to this thread??!!! Shocked
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this incessant squawking about drk is completely off-topic.  why not start a drk vs cn war thread if that is what you want?


+1

Why's there 2  BCNvsXMR war threafs and no war thread for DRK and CN-based coins??

I am pretty sure that all CN-based coins community would be interesting in listening to DRK community's view on CryptoNote  Smiley
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Sine secretum non libertas
this incessant squawking about drk is completely off-topic.  why not start a drk vs cn war thread if that is what you want?
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The point of this is, Darkcoin fanboys Cannot argue against other coins, they're own coin has the most issues of any cryptocoin I have ever seen. 50% instamine by it's own devs, trivial anonymity? Smh.

Darkcoin Facts:

1) 50% Instamine by the devs at launch, Darkcoin devs had Block Reward set to 500 coins per block, they hold over 1million Darkcoins in their posession

2) Masternodes are a centralized entity, if someone bought up all the masternodes, they would de-anonymize Darkcoin

3) Darkcoin uses coinjoin for mixing, the maker of coinjoin, gmaxwell, stated that Coinjoin itself is hardly even anonymous, and that Darkcoin's "anonymity" is a joke.

4) Darkcoin's name affiliates it with Dark acitivities, like drugs, the Darkweb, etc, no normal bitcoin user, not to mention regular joe, will ever use Darkcoin

5) Dozenz more of issues, they're too long to list on this thread



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Drawingthesun, so through massive collusion there may be a chance of unmasking transactions. The reality is that you're naive to think CN would hide you from such an entity. They already have backdoors in your hardware/firmware, so isn't it a moot point? If they were really willing to put in the effort to deanonymize certain transactions, you can rest assured that no perfect solution exists. Darkcoin affords a high degree of privacy, which is sufficient for the majority of people looking for "anonymous" transactions.
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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.


Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies.

Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%...
Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy.

Hmm, I recall that Darkcoin forked multiple times when it first tried going into RC3, then it tried a second time...and Failed again.

You shouldn't be talking about issues Lmfao.
The fork caused issues for a few hours. Your coin(s) are an issue unto themselves.

So far, Monero and Boolberry's bloating problem has been solved, through eliminating dust from the pools. That was the main issue.

Darkcoin's issue, is the 50% instamine, the centralization of Masternodes through one entity in the future, and the name Darkcoin, which is and will always be affiliated with Dark activities.

There's also how Darkcoin anonymity is a joke compared to others, because it uses coinjoin. and Much more, It's kind of funny, that you resort to lying BrilliantRocket to protect your asset, Darkcoin.
You are the one who is lying if you can't admit that CN denomination causes massive bloat.

Did I deny that? Oh yea you're just lying again.

It provides anonymity, but for ex: Monero's blockchain is only 2x bitcoins right now, and it provides the highest level of anonymity for a cryptocoin atm.

It's funny how you keep going back to "blockchain bloat" as if that's a factor is a game-killer.

What is a game-killer, is Darkcoin's 50% instamine by it's own development team, it's trivial coinjoin based anonymity, it's easy to centralize- Masternode system, which detracts from the miners, since owners get 20% of mine coins from blocks, as well as it's name Darkcoin which will always be affiliated with illegal activities.

That's a nice coin you fanboy over. (sarcasm)
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