Topic: Bytecoin [BCN] vs MONERO [XMR] who will be the winner in the Cryptonote War - page 2. (Read 15757 times)

And now you're just contradicting yourself. No need to "fight" in this discussion? Then why are you here?


Anyway, Im really sorry for those who got fooled by Monero trolls.

Bitmonero was announced 11 days before Boolberry. Bitmonero was launched 4/18. Bitmonero was taken over around 4/24 and renamed Monero. Boolberry was launched 5/17. Both were forks of Bytecoin. Portraying BBR as an XMR fork with minor differences is not just misleading but a lie.

Both BBR and XMR were launched to correct perceived shortcomings in Bytecoin.

The only obvious scamcoin in this discussion is Bytecoin.

The market had already decided that long ago, Monero is establishing higher lows after rallies while BCN is slowly dying as more people learn themselves that it's a huge premine scam instead of listening to all the (paid) Bytecoin trolls/shills.

Also BCN volume is pathetic, between 0.5-1% of Monero's. There is absolutely no need for Monero users to "fight" in this discussion because Bytecoin dug it's own grave the second the premine began.

I'm sorry, but a "scamcoin" must be something you have already bought and now trying to "fight" for it. 

Where are we celebrating? We are fighting for our coin, it's really that simple.

Many Monero supporters never supported an alt coin before, we see something great in Monero.

But please, what scamcoin would you prefer us to be buying?

Wow, comments up there are.... amazingly ignorant. Monero supporters started celebrating waay too early. 

Might be a tough time for Bytecoin right now but, you know, this can happen to any coin.

Completely agree. I've also been saying that...for years.



Less true simply because of how young the CryptoNote space is overall; it's only been (effectively) in existence for 4 months, so one coin overtaking another is not of the same import (yet) as if bitcoin got overtaken by a tweak-coin (litecoin). That said, I largely agree with your analysis.


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Probably, though there's potentially some clever way this can be solved. Additionally, if it's "solved enough" (ie, enough people are convinced there's an exceedingly low probability that someone has or could-have saved the initial vars), the hype around Zerocash, plus its theoretical technical superiority (if the initial vars are indeed destroyed) could cause it to be successful.



I think it's somewhat likely that early Ethereum will experience a bunch of blockchain shenanigans and have to "reboot" or "rollback" a few times before things are worked out, if it ever proves successful/viable in the first place. Such a process could take years. That said, the notion of a functional and secure Turning-complete chain is too good to not explore, so I'm indeed watching.

This isn't the case.

Monero has several long term competitors that could eventually ruin us if they do everything right. (Doing everything right is hard!) Boolberry is not one of them.

Boolberry is offering Litecoin over Bitcoin functionality where little changes are being hailed as revolutionary. It's the exact same situation I remember with Litecoin, the POW algo, the four times faster transactions, etc... Like I have said many times, if Litecoin overtakes Bitcoin most of the money will leave CryptoCoins for good. The same goes for Boolberry, if Boolberry overtakes Monero it's a signal to the market that no CryptoNote can hold value due to fear of competitor with small changes. If BBR overtakes XMR most of the money will leave CryptoNote and never come back, you'd be a fool to invest after something like that happens.

Anyway, Boolberries and Bytecoin are not a threat, Monero's longterm competition are coins that offer a substantially better system.

Here they are:

Bitcoin The big baddie of the Crypto world, if the development team started reacting instead of being safe, we might have to worry. However I can't see this happenening, and as the value of a Bitcoin increases the willingness of the Bitcoin development team and Foundation to make daring changes becomes less and less.

Conclusion: It's too risky.

Zerocash The anonymity functionality is quite powerful, however the trouble is it's almost certainly going to be screwed up as someone will have copied the initial accumulator instance/variables and thus will have unlimited mint power. This multicomputation might not even be possible (or it might be years later when it's discovered that their is a way of undoing the giant anonymous computation they seek to use to create the accumulator)

Conclusion: It can't be trusted.

Ethereum They may be able to build an anonymity (ring sig?) layer on top of their turing complete blockchain, however it might very well be much less efficient than a native ring signature currency.

Conclusion: Watch this space, but don't be too afraid of an Ethereum based anonymous competitor.

It was already dead in the eyes of people with half a brain.

I guess now even the BCN trolls/shills are selling their coins, nah probably not and they are likely to still be bagholders 1 satoshi = 1000 BCN given how persistent they are

In terms of volume XMR is killing BBR by a huge distance and it probably will stay like this for a while...

BCN looks dead to me. No buy support. Extreme selling pressure on Poloniex. We don't need to mention about BCN any more. The candidate to compete with XMR is BBR - BoolBerry

That's why you called them scams, yeah?

You can only guess because nobody knows from where this scams took the picture.

That's because Bytecoins developers are good. Reall good. They are doing their job and you can see the result.

After all changing in prices (BCN and XMR of course) i can't hear all those guys who were screaming about Bytecoin's weakness...

Yeah. And after everything they will call you a scam. Classic XMR trolls...

Wow, kids started to use pics with letters and numbers... Congrats!

But they can't learn some new phrases... your repeating made me sick guys

The right column is the network hash rate although it is out of date. Recent numbers are about 17m for XMR and 870k for BCN.

I'm not sure what the left column represents but my guess is that is a screen shot from a pool so it is probably the pool hash rate.

What do the left and right hand columns represent? Which one is the total network hash rate?

It has already ended...