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If it was free or no money involved then its not gambling literally. You can enjoy but doesnt mean that you can gain something and this is why its pretty obvious on what the main
difference between things. If you are really just that trying out to have some fun then you could do it on a free way without needing on betting into something.
Literally it will not be categorized as gambling because there is no money spent to bet and play so there is no pressure and risk when playing.

Only using the bonuses provided by the casino, but seeing how the rules of each casino are different, the sign-up bonus can only be used when someone makes a deposit first in a certain amount so that they can use the sign-up bonus.

Casinos will not free anyone without them gambling with their own money, there are more bonuses provided to be interested in putting money into gambling.

I gamble just for fun, but also put a little money as a fee for gambling, but it is very minimal and I have allocated a special allocation.
But some gambling apps only give a daily bonus in the form of coins to play for free, and that's just a gaming app that can be a gambling app.
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September 06, 2024, 04:04:55 PM
If you play free games on gambling sites it's just a gateway to getting accustomed to putting your money in and liking the process even more. For sure it is gambling.

If you put money and wager yes it is gambling but it was a free game so it should not be gambling.  We should make it clear what's gambling and what's not.  Having a straight sentence talking about free games and then transitioning to putting money and describing it as gambling makes it felt that free games are gambling.  That would create misconception, IMO.  So it is better to make clear which part is gambling and which par t is not.

If you wanted to play games to pass time there's card games without even the possibilityof giving money but also many just for fun games.

This part is not gambling.

Of course these games can also be addicting and a huge time sink. So many things will generally battle for your time and money, it's not just gambling.

This one is indeed gambling.

Please don't mix up things by combining those situations and labeling them all gambling. 
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September 06, 2024, 03:54:23 PM
If you play free games on gambling sites it's just a gateway to getting accustomed to putting your money in and liking the process even more. For sure it is gambling.

If you wanted to play games to pass time there's card games without even the possibility of giving money but also many just for fun games. Of course these games can also be addicting and a huge time sink. So many things will generally battle for your time and money, it's not just gambling.
Free games, although not considered gambling because they do not involve money, are the gateway for beginner gamblers. I say that free games are like beer in the gambling world. After that, you can move on to other drinks that are a little more alcoholic.

If we look at it this way, console and PC games are also considered gambling... In short, in my understanding it isn't considered gambling because it doesn't involve betting money directly.

But things change if you decide to bet with a friend of yours. In this case, anything can be considered gambling.
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September 06, 2024, 03:53:58 PM
I think there are free casino games. For example, there is Batak and Pişti, card games. I play batak and it's quite fun. It's not gambling, but the purpose is to spend time. I don't know if batak game exists in every country, but it is a famous game in Turkey. Pişti is a card game where many young people are introduced to playing cards. It is also a fun and exciting type of game.
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It will great if we have many best friends that will be besides us in any situation so we can share many things to them. We can count on them and vice versa because we will take care of our relationship and will prevents any bad things that can happen. When we playing free games with them, there will be no serious competition because we will know that is just a game that we play with them in our spare time so we only want to enjoy our time together with them.

I don't know if at some point you got to play PS with your friends, that was something impressive, very good, sometimes I didn't go to classes and I would sneak out to play Soccer on PS with them, and it was the best, the hours flew by and for me it was great fun, I think that's what many of us are looking for nowadays, to have some time to share with our friends and even if it's drinking beers, I think that playing without betting money is the best thing you can do, of course it's a way of thinking, other people don't see it that way.

It should be on that way but sadly people would really be that focusing too much on how they would really be able to make money and thats why they do add up some spice into those things on which they could actually involved on and this is where they would consider on taking up some gambling or betting. Gambling does pertains about on risking money to earn money and also it do really add up the thrill
since you are really that adding up some funds or simply money on the choices you had made out or simply you had risks out something.

If it was free or no money involved then its not gambling literally. You can enjoy but doesnt mean that you can gain something and this is why its pretty obvious on what the main
difference between things. If you are really just that trying out to have some fun then you could do it on a free way without needing on betting into something.
legendary
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August 28, 2024, 05:48:42 PM
It will great if we have many best friends that will be besides us in any situation so we can share many things to them. We can count on them and vice versa because we will take care of our relationship and will prevents any bad things that can happen. When we playing free games with them, there will be no serious competition because we will know that is just a game that we play with them in our spare time so we only want to enjoy our time together with them.

I don't know if at some point you got to play PS with your friends, that was something impressive, very good, sometimes I didn't go to classes and I would sneak out to play Soccer on PS with them, and it was the best, the hours flew by and for me it was great fun, I think that's what many of us are looking for nowadays, to have some time to share with our friends and even if it's drinking beers, I think that playing without betting money is the best thing you can do, of course it's a way of thinking, other people don't see it that way.
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August 24, 2024, 04:57:57 PM
But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
In my opinion, without involving money, it cannot be called gambling because there is no risk whatsoever in the outcome, we do not lose or gain anything other than just fun.
But gambling can be free, for example when you get freebets or freespins, which when you lose you don't lose anything and it's a lucky thing if you can win it.
Free games still make me excited but not as much as when using money where there are emotions involved so the desire to get money increases, free games only relieve boredom for a moment.

This is already quite a deep context, bets, betting coupons and other things that are distributed by bookmaker controls is already gambling in any form. In essence, everything inside a betting shop, casino and similar establishments is gambling. Gambling is difficult to call what does not require real investment in any form except for the time spent on the game. Although I believe that there is no point in a person thinking about what is gambling and what is not, if they clearly realise that they are not here to make money. Betting in many cases allows people to increase their interest in the game.
legendary
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August 24, 2024, 03:52:59 PM
But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
In my opinion, without involving money, it cannot be called gambling because there is no risk whatsoever in the outcome, we do not lose or gain anything other than just fun.
But gambling can be free, for example when you get freebets or freespins, which when you lose you don't lose anything and it's a lucky thing if you can win it.
Free games still make me excited but not as much as when using money where there are emotions involved so the desire to get money increases, free games only relieve boredom for a moment.

Well I also agree with you although I don't know if my understanding of the context of gambling is correct though but like you I believe if you add monetary value or something that's value to game then it can't be gambling because gambling involves taking the big risk and making the move in order to derive profit and also thrills with excitement and most times the end result is always loses if you don't understand the fun part of it.
You are contradicting yourself with your comment bud, when you add something that is of value to game, like money for example, that automatically makes playing that game gambling because at that very point in time, you are no longer playing that game only for the fun derived in playing it, but now, you are now playing to win and earn money for winning, and this is simply what gambling is all about.

And remember, value doesn't end at money alone, people can place value on different things, could be an item of personal emotions/feelings, like one placing high value on their self esteem, whereas when ever they play game, they must make sure to win as a way for them to continue to hold their shoulders high.

In the nutshell, whenever we play games with a goal of winning to make money, or gain other things that is considered valuable to use, then we are gambling.
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August 24, 2024, 03:44:08 PM
But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
In my opinion, without involving money, it cannot be called gambling because there is no risk whatsoever in the outcome, we do not lose or gain anything other than just fun.
But gambling can be free, for example when you get freebets or freespins, which when you lose you don't lose anything and it's a lucky thing if you can win it.
Free games still make me excited but not as much as when using money where there are emotions involved so the desire to get money increases, free games only relieve boredom for a moment.

Well I also agree with you although I don't know if my understanding of the context of gambling is correct though but like you I believe if you add monetary value or something that's value to game then it can't be gambling because gambling involves taking the big risk and making the move in order to derive profit and also thrills with excitement and most times the end result is always loses if you don't understand the fun part of it.
From the word gambling itself then you would really be able to understand directly on just simply making use of your own common sense.Gambling means that you are
risking something an amount for you to win up something or any that does have value. On the time that you would really be dealing up with some free games then it wont really
be considered to be gambling and its really just that right that you should really be wary atleast on the things that you are dealing because if you cant be able
to determine whether its risky or not then you are subject to mess up your finances later on.  Grin
Gambling is the human condition at its most basic: making choices without knowing the outcome. We gamble every day, whether it's on the stock market or who we decide to marry. Do not treat it as a taboo concept. The word "gamble," implies risk-taking. Thats not always awful. It depends on context and aim. Free gambling simulations let you practice probability and strategy without danger. It's like computational thinking in action, but without the real-world consequences.

You know, when it comes to endorsing entertaining forms of gambling, I see it as supporting a form of experiential learning. Adults can practice probability, strategy, and choice effects in a controlled environment. Understanding risk management can improve other areas of their lives.
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August 24, 2024, 08:56:52 AM
But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
In my opinion, without involving money, it cannot be called gambling because there is no risk whatsoever in the outcome, we do not lose or gain anything other than just fun.
But gambling can be free, for example when you get freebets or freespins, which when you lose you don't lose anything and it's a lucky thing if you can win it.
Free games still make me excited but not as much as when using money where there are emotions involved so the desire to get money increases, free games only relieve boredom for a moment.

Well I also agree with you although I don't know if my understanding of the context of gambling is correct though but like you I believe if you add monetary value or something that's value to game then it can't be gambling because gambling involves taking the big risk and making the move in order to derive profit and also thrills with excitement and most times the end result is always loses if you don't understand the fun part of it.
From the word gambling itself then you would really be able to understand directly on just simply making use of your own common sense.Gambling means that you are
risking something an amount for you to win up something or any that does have value. On the time that you would really be dealing up with some free games then it wont really
be considered to be gambling and its really just that right that you should really be wary atleast on the things that you are dealing because if you cant be able
to determine whether its risky or not then you are subject to mess up your finances later on.  Grin

Yes, i do agree into this word, and here's some google search about on the word "gambling".
the practice or activity of betting : the practice of risking money or other stakes in a game or betDef link

If you are really that too lazy on trying out to find on whats the definition of gambling then you could really be able to make up some search and it would really be that clearly stated on what it is. Just like been mentioned that its the practice of risking money for you to have that betting or gambling activity. If you are really that dealing with something that doesnt have that particular betting on money literally then it cant be called gambling and if we do speak about free bets or those bonuses then its called still gambling in the sense that you could only use those free bets on gambling platforms on which these things
are risks free but just like on what everyone is saying that getting out or make money with free bets is really that hard.

Just really be careful on dealing up with free bets on which these things turns out to be like traps to those people who are really that involving with it. We do know
on how these things works and on how it could potentially that make someone be depositing out of those few trials. If you wont really be that careful
then you might be ending up on being impulsive gambler.
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August 24, 2024, 08:46:21 AM
But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
In my opinion, without involving money, it cannot be called gambling because there is no risk whatsoever in the outcome, we do not lose or gain anything other than just fun.
But gambling can be free, for example when you get freebets or freespins, which when you lose you don't lose anything and it's a lucky thing if you can win it.
Free games still make me excited but not as much as when using money where there are emotions involved so the desire to get money increases, free games only relieve boredom for a moment.

Well I also agree with you although I don't know if my understanding of the context of gambling is correct though but like you I believe if you add monetary value or something that's value to game then it can't be gambling because gambling involves taking the big risk and making the move in order to derive profit and also thrills with excitement and most times the end result is always loses if you don't understand the fun part of it.
From the word gambling itself then you would really be able to understand directly on just simply making use of your own common sense.Gambling means that you are
risking something an amount for you to win up something or any that does have value. On the time that you would really be dealing up with some free games then it wont really
be considered to be gambling and its really just that right that you should really be wary atleast on the things that you are dealing because if you cant be able
to determine whether its risky or not then you are subject to mess up your finances later on.  Grin
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August 24, 2024, 08:28:47 AM
But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
In my opinion, without involving money, it cannot be called gambling because there is no risk whatsoever in the outcome, we do not lose or gain anything other than just fun.
But gambling can be free, for example when you get freebets or freespins, which when you lose you don't lose anything and it's a lucky thing if you can win it.
Free games still make me excited but not as much as when using money where there are emotions involved so the desire to get money increases, free games only relieve boredom for a moment.

Well I also agree with you although I don't know if my understanding of the context of gambling is correct though but like you I believe if you add monetary value or something that's value to game then it can't be gambling because gambling involves taking the big risk and making the move in order to derive profit and also thrills with excitement and most times the end result is always loses if you don't understand the fun part of it.
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August 24, 2024, 08:27:27 AM
Yes of course free game gambling must be considered part of it as it is a promotional system by the gambling authorities to attract people through free game offers.

Many times different bonuses, free spins and free games are organized from different casinos or gambling sites where the participants can win different bonuses so it can be called a kind of promotional tricks.

Since you are getting bonus i.e. profit by participating for free, it must be considered as gambling in your case.
What you say here is true if consider as part of gambling because it is given as form of promotion to attract gamblers and become bonus so that those who get it can be more enthusiastic.
But in logical explanation, bonuses such as free spins cannot be categorized as gamble activity for someone because they play in several rounds without spending betting money, this would be the same as someone playing in visual game.
It just that for context like this, it always provides lot of different points of view and responses from each person, maybe you and some other people think all of this is the same but I have different thought.
legendary
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August 24, 2024, 08:21:37 AM
But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
In my opinion, without involving money, it cannot be called gambling because there is no risk whatsoever in the outcome, we do not lose or gain anything other than just fun.
But gambling can be free, for example when you get freebets or freespins, which when you lose you don't lose anything and it's a lucky thing if you can win it.
Free games still make me excited but not as much as when using money where there are emotions involved so the desire to get money increases, free games only relieve boredom for a moment.
Well, for me, free games, like free bets and so on still produce exactly same level of excitement for me, same as when I have to pay for the bet, and the reason for this is very simple, and that is, the end goal is the same, and that again is that, I place bets with money expecting to win more money in return, and when the casino gifts me some free bets, I am also expecting to win some money from it, so there is  no less of excitement here, whether a bet be paid for or free, it's just about the same risk the gambler is taking, and let me explain a bit further.

The only way a gambler will feel different about a bet he spent money is, is if he is usually taking high risk, that is, betting with an amount of money he or she can not afford to lose, for someone like myself who makes sure to always and only bet with money that l already considered lost even before I place bets wit it, it's simply no difference when the casino gives me a free bet.
legendary
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August 24, 2024, 05:11:58 AM
But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
In my opinion, without involving money, it cannot be called gambling because there is no risk whatsoever in the outcome, we do not lose or gain anything other than just fun.
But gambling can be free, for example when you get freebets or freespins, which when you lose you don't lose anything and it's a lucky thing if you can win it.
Free games still make me excited but not as much as when using money where there are emotions involved so the desire to get money increases, free games only relieve boredom for a moment.
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August 24, 2024, 03:53:03 AM
Addiction or not may depend more on each individual, when players can limit themselves, they may not be addicted, although the reality is that free games can certainly make players addicted to doing it again and again. Free games that don't require spending money to do them certainly mean that there is no reward that can be obtained, because there is nothing at stake in what is being done. However, addiction is something that tends to definitely exist and can happen.

It is very rare for players to get points and get money, maybe this happens to people who are really very lucky or have strong luck. In addition, not all casinos will give free bets to their players, although this may happen, but I think they will limit it.

addiction to free games is probably like children who are addicted to online games. all they are after is the fun of playing and they will play until they are tired. I would not consider free games as gambling. there is nothing really at stake and can produce real profits. in my mind, it is like playing on a demo account.

it would be a different case when gamblers get free spins, or bonus balances from casinos to restart betting. it would still be gambling. gambling is a bet of what we have. Even if it is free from someone's gift, or a pack of cigarettes or bread that is bet on a game, then it is gambling.

            -      Yep, you have a point in what you said. It's no different from playing Playstation, which is addictive to play even if you don't spend any money. Now,  playing online gambling, which is free, can still cause addiction for other gamblers.

So it is likely that when he has played in real gambling, it is not far off that he will become addicted to gambling, especially when he experiences a win and the winnings are large. It is not at all unlikely that he will become addicted in the future.
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August 24, 2024, 02:47:51 AM
Yes, you have to Understand something, at least I have many Friends who are really good people, they are the best  , you can count on them for any eventuality, but with money they are another thing , they are capable of Becoming Someone's enemy if they don't give them their money or if they lend money and don't pay them back, so it is very bad that someone for money stops being someone else's friend, for me it is not well seen, for me things S hould not be reduced to just that , there is much more than just Money there.
It will great if we have many best friends that will be besides us in any situation so we can share many things to them. We can count on them and vice versa because we will take care of our relationship and will prevents any bad things that can happen. When we playing free games with them, there will be no serious competition because we will know that is just a game that we play with them in our spare time so we only want to enjoy our time together with them.

We don't think about the winner or who will be lose in that game because that game is a free game that we always play with them. That will not be a gambling for us because that game can be played without using money although we can use other things to have excitement of the games. We don't want to ruin our relationship because of simple thing.

Luckily I have opposite story where I used to gamble against friends/neighbors (mostly card games) for so many years but it does not ruin our relationship because we are aware that when we play against each other (money involved), the main point is not about the money but about the moment of fun and moment of togetherness.
Of course it will always depending on how mature someone is because I also know that there can be a conflict between friends when it comes to gambling especially if someone is cheating or cant pay what they should pay while gambling.
You get your exciting moment with your friends and that will be valuable for you and your friends. We may not have that moment again when we are grow up and search for our living and we will be busy with our life. We will miss that moment especially when we can playing a game whether that is a gambling game or just a free game because in that moment, we share a moment of fun and togetherness that we will difficult to gets again.

Yes, conflict will always be there but as you said that will depend on how mature we can understand the matter so we will not fight each other because of a simple thing. We will take care our relationship no matter if we are far away with our friends so when we meet them, we can remember our good moment with them. Geez, I really miss with all of my best friends Cry
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August 23, 2024, 08:18:48 PM
You can gamble with anything and of course its not always about money its just that is the easiest most immediate bet a person can make.   I play games of poker often for practise, the winning or losing is for a ranked score depending where you place in a tournament.  Its a bit comparable to the famous Chess ELO where you rank up or down over time.

I'd argue no money is more likely to make the game casual not competitive but if you are playing at home, late or with distractions then casual might be best and more enjoyable overall.  Its still a gambling game anyway, no doubt about it to answer your question.
Playing games is not actual gambling when something is not at stake, and when I say something, I mean anything at all, it doesn't have to be money, but something the player values have to be at stake, this particular thing also serves as a source of motivation for the player to play seriously to win.

For some players, they know nothing else, other than to stake their money, so as to try to win more money, but for some other people, specially in home based games, what they stake is their prestige, level, self respect, ego, ranking, self esteem, reputation, you name it, this things are of great value to those who understand it and hold 'em high, so while playing a home based game with a friend where any of this things I mentioned is at stake, money doesn't have to get involved for such game to be regarded as gambling, such game is still gambling because any of those I mentioned is enough to motivate a man who values it to want to win the game, so as not only to maintain his level of respect (for example) but to also gain a higher level of respect.
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August 23, 2024, 06:58:11 PM
You can gamble with anything and of course its not always about money its just that is the easiest most immediate bet a person can make.   I play games of poker often for practise, the winning or losing is for a ranked score depending where you place in a tournament.  Its a bit comparable to the famous Chess ELO where you rank up or down over time.

I'd argue no money is more likely to make the game casual not competitive but if you are playing at home, late or with distractions then casual might be best and more enjoyable overall.  Its still a gambling game anyway, no doubt about it to answer your question.
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August 23, 2024, 06:42:14 PM
Yes of course free game gambling must be considered part of it as it is a promotional system by the gambling authorities to attract people through free game offers.

Many times different bonuses, free spins and free games are organized from different casinos or gambling sites where the participants can win different bonuses so it can be called a kind of promotional tricks.

Since you are getting bonus i.e. profit by participating for free, it must be considered as gambling in your case.
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