Topic: Can free games be gambling? - page 4. (Read 1997 times)

I also had some interesting thoughts on this topic, so here is one of them about what if poker players started playing not for money, but first played for years just for fun. I think that is what raised my level to a very high level, although it takes a lot of time and an experienced coach. The important point is that bets and playing for money knock down the main essence and meaning of the game, they seem to cloud our minds and we cannot think about anything else except money, how much we can win or lose. And it is important to concentrate on the game itself, even professionals will say the same, because they are first completely immersed in the game, and then in money and everything else.

What’s gambling without having some kind of stake?

If your predicting a result from a game and have got nothing to lose on it in any eventuality that your prediction didn’t play out, you only just predicted and nothing more.

The stake is what makes it gambling. In gambling, you must have something to lose should your prediction not play out. That’s then fun part of it, you have something to lose or gain in the end. The thrills of winning and the chills of loosing especially when your active about your bet would fill you good.

Gambling that is done as a demo is a great way to gain experience in gambling. However, I think new gamblers almost always put their money at risk due to small mistakes. Never get excited while gambling and what  Don't be too greedy. We often lose gambling due to excessive greed and lose all the money and go into depression so we should stay away from them.

In the gambling definition, it also wasnt mentioned what exactly is a value. You value money, I value game points that I use for betting or my free time. In free games, I can risk with becoming addicted for example. But lets get back to free money then. Some give them zero value, but try to earn a billion of points. The word value have different definitions, and one of it is "other resource". Free money that we get in free games can be that "other resource".

There are.

Many casinos have their own faucet, demo account or worthless coins, you can gamble without worrying if you will lose your money. Some casinos even allow you to cashout after you meet minimum requirement.

Anyway, try to elaborate what you said in the last line, actually isn't that good if you can't be addicted because you're gamble without risking anything?

Go ahead. There is no prohibition if the type of game you mean can be a free game that can keep you and your friends entertained and fun while you play.
I will not spend hours with a free game if I am in a state of having no money. At least I will switch to reading and learning something new from browsing in the browser after finishing playing a free game.

What about these games, but with friends? Desktop Monopoly, for example, such a fun time killer

I do not consider or consider free games to be part of gambling because gambling is done intentionally by betting something like the general definition of gambling.
Yes. It can. Free games can excite me to play when I am bored without money that I can play like the gambling that I like.
On average, I play free games when the conditions I described and to pass the time in the midst of boredom hit me like now which is just sitting in front of the computer.

Yep, stakes are too low

Right, and the point is an activity that is called or considered gambling is when there are two or more parties who are faced with two possibilities, namely between getting profit or loss where from all the people at the table there will only be one person who will be the winner, whoever it is, the point is the luckiest.

Basically gambling is a game of agreement before the players start the round, where several parties must agree that if something they choose turns out not to be the right answer then the consequence is that they will lose money, and this is also the reason why self-acceptance related to risk is the main ability that must be possessed by a gambler.

The point is that an activity will only be officially considered a gambling activity when someone is faced with opportunities and risks without any certainty and guarantee in the several choices provided.

As far as it has to do with gambling, nothing is free because there is always something to be staked to make it gambling and just with the case you listed on op, let’s just say we receive some free spin on casino games, there is no way you would have to use the spins without having to deposit and the free soon are some ways of attracting you to deposit and play more games.
I think for a game to be classified as gambling, there must have to be something at stake and there must have to be a winner and a loser and oj a situation where there is nothing staked, then is not right to still tag such a game gambling.

When you do not win or lose money in any activity, i don't consider that gambling. On my part, what you are doing is merely for fun purposes only though you lost some money because you paid on some games but it doesn't fall on the category of gambling at least for me.

Free games can also lead to gambling when challenged. Video game players also gamble with friends to make money. There, players focus on skills and may not compete with a highly skilled player. In all, the excitement they feel is the equivalent of what gamblers experience.

Yup, if you are a gambler. You'd see the huge difference of it compared to the ones that can stake with real money. These free games are good to have when you just wanna kill time.

That's the reality about them.

It can also be a way to practice when you want to play some specific games and they offer some free games on it.

We all understand that we are gamblers and there's no fun when doing things as such like what's with the free games.

Yes but my answer didn't exclude the option that something immaterial could be on the line and the example you brought up explains that. But I think there is a difference between rolling the dice being a sin compared to skin in the game of any kind, whether that be money or reputation or whatever. When you do something against your inner belief or whatever rules you impose on yourself (or your parents etc.), it doesn't really have to do with gambling unless you bet on you rolling the dice not being discovered by your parents

What you are referring is closer to breaking a law than putting something on the line, although I would say what you said makes sense to some degree. If I drive a car without a driving license, I am actually taking a gamble there, but I definitely have something to lose. You could argue that someone gambling in a country where it is not allowed is actually losing esteem, but the difference is that it is not the result of the dice that counts, but the fact whether or not someone catches you.


Ok sure, but discussing biochemistry for different individuals is probably taking it too far here. That would never allow us to draw a half way reasonable line. You could always argue that if someone rolls the dice with nothing on the line, you could probably still measure at least minuscule biochemical activity and then it would be deemed gambling since your brain shows a reaction.

What I certainly agree with though is that getting new players on a platform offering them fake money to get used to the platform is beyond doubt effective. But then again we are more discussing about consequences whereas I would say that playing with fake money is still not gambling as per a closer definition. In the broadest sense, well then maybe yes.

Gambling though should also be seen as an entertainment of sorts. Of course, as you said, it's a game with higher stakes, with something that has value - however, in my opinion, the main things going are emotions and the thrill of it, not the profit at hand. That way, with this perspective, the experience should be different and the well-being of gambler would be preserved

And without anything you stake, whether, money or things, it won't be called as gambling. Because you will only call it as gambling if some valuable item or money is on the line. Now, if there's none, then, you are merely playing for fun or entertainment.

Free games are like a free trial version of what you feel while gambling for real, in my opinion

When something doesn't cost you anything, the I'm not sure it's gambling because yiu are not risking anything and you are not losing anything and in such case, you are having fun but free fun that your head will not spin when you lose and there wouldn't be this affinity to make money from the way you play it and you might even feel relax with more focus on the game than when you are risking something. The way you will play when money is involved will be different when nothing is involved.

However, I think there are normal games that do make people spend money, there are some features you would y see in those games until you buy their package and this money spent makes them serious about it but in this case, nothing will be won because players  are not putting money to get something in return but to enjoy the game and have fun.

Ironically of you look up for the definition of gambling, you will realize that it can vary pretty much depending on the cultural and religious setting we are talking about. There are religious families and communities which do not allow their children to play any tabletop games because the inclusion of dices, regardless they use of fake money of paper money, in the eyes of of those religious leaders and the elders of the community, the dole use of a dice to determine a random result is sinful enough to be avoided at any cost.
So, depending whom you ask, the risk of gambling could not be directly associated with the loss of material
things like money or property, but a direct association of supernatural and evil forces which could be in control of the dice or whatever object is being used to generate the randomes of the game. It transcends the wager.

To me, there is still some elements of gambling even if the money is worthless or fake, as wagering fake money could still activate the producticion of neurotransmitters within our brain, which could or not cause a long standing addiction, or make people move onto gambling with real money.