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August 16, 2024, 12:30:55 PM
Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
I never enjoy free games. Because there is no relation with money. Moreover, a major requirement of gambling is that there be money involved. If I had to experience gambling with a demo account, it would never feel like gambling to me. So free games and demo games seem the same to me. I think every gambler thinks pretty much the same way. Playing money less or free games seems like a waste of time to me. I will never find excitement in these type of gambling. Playing such games is not gambling in my opinion. Because I have no fear of losing money.
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August 16, 2024, 09:05:15 AM
Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

        -      When you say free games, it's really just free games, which is no different from playing ML or any games on the PlayStation or Mario games. Or if it's gaming, that's just the demo games first so you can get familiar with the game.

Maybe the game can also become a real game if you have a friend to bet with; in this scenario, it can be a real gamble. Meaning it depends on us.
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August 16, 2024, 08:35:00 AM
If we do not spend money on bets, but spend our time, then we can say that this is also a kind of gambling, because it is known that time is money. When we play for free, we try, for example, to learn something or pass the next level. And we can spend a lot of time on this, but still not achieve our goals. And if we spend a lot of time just like that, then this is equivalent to spending a lot of money. After all, we could use this wasted time to earn money, for example. And this is only one consideration out of several that tells us that gambling can very well be free.

I cant fully agree with it, although time is money but playing a game where money is not involved is not gambling (at least for me).
If time is money then it is connected to gambling then anything we do in life are all gambling.
For example you were born and you have a talent for playing football, you play  it, practice it and even joining a club to improve your skills, do you take it as gambling too?
The same if you like to write or to draw, you do it everyday because you love it and you can achieve something from this hobby, is it also gambling?
I dont think so...
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August 16, 2024, 08:28:55 AM
Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?
Free games, or playing games for free can't be considered as gambling, and this is because from my personal understanding of the word "gambling", when playing a game, there have to be something at stake, which you the player stand to lose, and there also have to be a target, something to act as reward just incase you win, in the absence of this two things, playing games can't be gambling but simply playing a game.

In the past, I used to believe that every time we play games even with friends where nothing is at stake, it's gambling, but over time, and with experiences, I come to realize what I explained above, you have to stake something valuable to consider which ever game you are playing as gambling, and there have to also be reward for winning as well.
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August 16, 2024, 08:17:17 AM
If we do not spend money on bets, but spend our time, then we can say that this is also a kind of gambling, because it is known that time is money. When we play for free, we try, for example, to learn something or pass the next level. And we can spend a lot of time on this, but still not achieve our goals. And if we spend a lot of time just like that, then this is equivalent to spending a lot of money. After all, we could use this wasted time to earn money, for example. And this is only one consideration out of several that tells us that gambling can very well be free.
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August 16, 2024, 03:41:28 AM
I don't think so, there are many games that we can play in exchange for entertainment, such as some mobile or PC games that can provide pleasure, chess, billiards or some other types of games can also provide pleasure to someone who plays them, and I have never heard people say that it is gambling.
So far in my opinion and for me something that is called gambling is when there is one of two or more parties who will be harmed on the condition that they must lose something that is used as collateral for an agreement such as money or other things that are considered valuable.

But if it turns out that there are no rules for losing anything then I think it is clear that it is not gambling but an activity that will only take up time. Something that is called gambling is when someone is faced with two possibilities between getting or losing something in real terms.
Let's look at the meaning of gambling first, in general gambling is an activity that can harm one party. And it seems that I don't have to explain in detail from that definition, because I think we all understand it.
If it is only in the context of the game, then you are right, a game without anything at stake will only be a game that will waste time. But can the game turn into gambling? then the answer is yes.
For example, I often play the Ludo game, it is an activity that only wastes time and cannot be called gambling. However, when we put a bet in it (I usually do that with my friends  Grin) then the game will turn into gambling. Although the amount of bets we place is not large, it is still a form of gambling because there is something at stake in the game.

Yes of course, I would also say that the example you gave is correct, meaning that the first concept of gambling is when one party is actually harmed, and the second is that whatever type of game it is, in the end it can indeed be a gambling game if there is an agreement from several parties to implement a betting system in it (as you exemplified with the ludo game).

So the conclusion is that all types of games are very likely to be considered gambling but it also depends, in the sense that it depends on the wishes of the people who play it regarding the agreement on the rules of the consequences of the winning and losing system that they want to apply to the game.
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August 15, 2024, 03:41:53 PM
Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?


Well you have the Right to choose to play any game of your choice but it doesn't mean your gambling,when it seems your gambling is when you decide to bet on the games to continue playing just as it excites you.

So free game can't be classified as gambling causeyou are on demo mode and you're spending nothing to get that fun,but some games that involves spin and staking is actually urging you to bet on that game which is gambling and yes gambling can be Free if like those casinos people come to play and have fun and leave without staking with any amounts.
When we are not spending anything to bet, then it means we are not actually gambling because we are not going to take it very seriously. When our money is involved, we tend to be very serious and want to keep making profits by all means. Gambling is more of altitude than the amount we intend to win. Once we are set to gamble and make profits their are so many things we need to put into consideration for us to make  money for ourselves if not, we might not even end up winning. The game of luck and choice is always right before us to make decisions that could make us lose funds and win. Once money is never involved then that zeal to bet and win would be less because we are not taking any risk.
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August 15, 2024, 12:51:51 PM
Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

I can only enjoy free gambling when I play with friends. Especially when we play team card games like "de-berz". I tried more than once to play gambling in demo mode and realized that they do not bring me pleasure. Apparently the lack of excitement is due to the lack of risk. Although if I play gambling in a circle of friends, the risk is also absent, but here probably the attention is switched to the actions of each individual player and in the course of the reputational risks. 
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August 15, 2024, 12:33:20 PM
Free casino games are never termed gambling. These are the freebies that are offered by the casinos to try their platform before using any real money. Now when you risk your real and hard-earned money to win some extra money, this can be called gambling. Most of the time, these free games are provided by the casino to attract more users to the casinos. Hence, this is not gambling at all. Instead, this is a smart advertising technique, and you are the victim of it.
I agree with you that free games are not gambling because the gambler did not stake anything in order for him to win and if you loses the game, he has nothing to worry about because he has nothing to lose.

Gambling is when you stake with something and that is when the thrill and anxiety will be there, you will always like to win because you know that if you lose again over and over again, you are loai g real money, and that will make you caution yourself on the game based on how much you have lost
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August 15, 2024, 12:18:22 PM
Free casino games are never termed gambling. These are the freebies that are offered by the casinos to try their platform before using any real money. Now when you risk your real and hard-earned money to win some extra money, this can be called gambling. Most of the time, these free games are provided by the casino to attract more users to the casinos. Hence, this is not gambling at all. Instead, this is a smart advertising technique, and you are the victim of it.
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August 15, 2024, 12:12:03 PM
I don't think so, there are many games that we can play in exchange for entertainment, such as some mobile or PC games that can provide pleasure, chess, billiards or some other types of games can also provide pleasure to someone who plays them, and I have never heard people say that it is gambling.
So far in my opinion and for me something that is called gambling is when there is one of two or more parties who will be harmed on the condition that they must lose something that is used as collateral for an agreement such as money or other things that are considered valuable.

But if it turns out that there are no rules for losing anything then I think it is clear that it is not gambling but an activity that will only take up time. Something that is called gambling is when someone is faced with two possibilities between getting or losing something in real terms.
Let's look at the meaning of gambling first, in general gambling is an activity that can harm one party. And it seems that I don't have to explain in detail from that definition, because I think we all understand it.
If it is only in the context of the game, then you are right, a game without anything at stake will only be a game that will waste time. But can the game turn into gambling? then the answer is yes.
For example, I often play the Ludo game, it is an activity that only wastes time and cannot be called gambling. However, when we put a bet in it (I usually do that with my friends  Grin) then the game will turn into gambling. Although the amount of bets we place is not large, it is still a form of gambling because there is something at stake in the game.
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August 15, 2024, 11:02:41 AM
I don't think so, there are many games that we can play in exchange for entertainment, such as some mobile or PC games that can provide pleasure, chess, billiards or some other types of games can also provide pleasure to someone who plays them, and I have never heard people say that it is gambling.
So far in my opinion and for me something that is called gambling is when there is one of two or more parties who will be harmed on the condition that they must lose something that is used as collateral for an agreement such as money or other things that are considered valuable.

But if it turns out that there are no rules for losing anything then I think it is clear that it is not gambling but an activity that will only take up time. Something that is called gambling is when someone is faced with two possibilities between getting or losing something in real terms.
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August 15, 2024, 10:32:40 AM
Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?


Well you have the Right to choose to play any game of your choice but it doesn't mean your gambling,when it seems your gambling is when you decide to bet on the games to continue playing just as it excites you.

So free game can't be classified as gambling causeyou are on demo mode and you're spending nothing to get that fun,but some games that involves spin and staking is actually urging you to bet on that game which is gambling and yes gambling can be Free if like those casinos people come to play and have fun and leave without staking with any amounts.
From the word "gambling" then it do really just that basically shows or means that you are really that taking up a risks on putting up your money into bet on which it would really be just that common sense
that if you are really that dealing up with free games on which simply shows that you arent risking something then this isnt that could be considered to be gambling. You arent that risking anything
on which you could really be able to get something.If we do really just that simply trying out to figure out on what gambling means then you would be able to directly point out that you arent doing
gambling on just simply playing up some free games. You wont really be getting stressed just because you do know that you cant be able to lose up something and thats always been a good thing.
Gambling thing is a different matter because on the moment that you do bet money to earn money then this is the basic concept on that it is.
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August 15, 2024, 10:28:24 AM
Well you have the Right to choose to play any game of your choice but it doesn't mean your gambling,when it seems your gambling is when you decide to bet on the games to continue playing just as it excites you.

So free game can't be classified as gambling causeyou are on demo mode and you're spending nothing to get that fun,but some games that involves spin and staking is actually urging you to bet on that game which is gambling and yes gambling can be Free if like those casinos people come to play and have fun and leave without staking with any amounts.
Gaming is like a kind of practice to prepare and enhance ones performance towards going live games Bec I believe any game that is stakes with money are live games. But however, the fun of game is not when you stake money but when you are playing and winning that gives you the full fun in it than while staking money towards it. Immediately you stake with money it became more tensed to game on because you wouldn't feel that Joy in you since you would be subconscious of the amount you staked not to lose it entirely.
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August 15, 2024, 07:58:12 AM
Yesterday I played free card games on the computer and had a lot of fun and it was also quite exciting. You know, I play different games: both paid and free. And sometimes, based on the fascination and the pleasure I get, I find it difficult to say which games captivate me more. But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free? Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

Well you have the Right to choose to play any game of your choice but it doesn't mean your gambling,when it seems your gambling is when you decide to bet on the games to continue playing just as it excites you.

So free game can't be classified as gambling causeyou are on demo mode and you're spending nothing to get that fun,but some games that involves spin and staking is actually urging you to bet on that game which is gambling and yes gambling can be Free if like those casinos people come to play and have fun and leave without staking with any amounts.
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August 15, 2024, 07:52:01 AM
Free games can be the avenue to enter into paid games and then it becomes gambling.

Often these can be employed by the casinos to "try them out" - it is a screening test to get the potential gamblers mindset to work and start playing on their site.

So free games is the start of the gambling career for many initial non gamblers. Beyond that they can be a method to test some "strategies" - if any strategy really existed in EV- games. Wink
That is true and I guess those demo games inside the slot games are meant to urge people to try it out with their money on risk.

I have seen very rare slot games without a demo mode, I think Hacksaw Gaming is one provider that doesn't have a demo mode, or maybe just some of their games. Still, most slot providers include this feature because they know it could spark a new gambler to test it out.
Because there's no fun in playing a game without money involved, I am sure that many testers will try them out in a live game and see if they can replicate what is happening in the demo mode.
I would not expect too much though, they are meant to look like they are giving back the money as fast as possible but that's not the truth behind it.
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August 15, 2024, 07:29:10 AM
But I would be interested in how you answer the question of whether free games can be considered gambling. Another way to put this is: can gambling be free?

Without money involved a game is just game. Even a gambling games like poker, dice, slot games and etc. are considered as just a game if you are just playing a demo mode/play money.

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Do free games excite you as much as games that involve betting money?

Free games that use in gambling never gives me an excitement since it’s just a plain game. The wager makes interesting and exciting on this game.

However games that was developed by game developers such Dota2, CS:GO and many more are the one that gives excitement since the gameplay was designed to become entertaining without wager involved.
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August 15, 2024, 07:18:49 AM
Free games can be the avenue to enter into paid games and then it becomes gambling.

Often these can be employed by the casinos to "try them out" - it is a screening test to get the potential gamblers mindset to work and start playing on their site.

So free games is the start of the gambling career for many initial non gamblers. Beyond that they can be a method to test some "strategies" - if any strategy really existed in EV- games. Wink

Absolutely right. In many cases it is really difficult to understand whether a game is free. You can play games that are free for you, but in which, for example, some satoshi from a bitcoin faucet is offered as a win. Is this game free or not? For you, in general, it is free, since you do not spend money on it. But for the organizer of this game, it is paid, he spends his satoshi in order to replenish the reward fund. The gambling factor can also be present here, because you may want to get more satoshi by playing, for example, online solitaire. Therefore, I believe that there are some situations in which free games can be gambling, only some conditions need to be clarified.
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August 14, 2024, 09:56:34 AM
Free games can be the avenue to enter into paid games and then it becomes gambling.

Often these can be employed by the casinos to "try them out" - it is a screening test to get the potential gamblers mindset to work and start playing on their site.

So free games is the start of the gambling career for many initial non gamblers. Beyond that they can be a method to test some "strategies" - if any strategy really existed in EV- games. Wink
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July 11, 2024, 10:39:41 PM
I believe you are giving the wrong example here.  We are talking about gambling and being lucky.  Besides if two ps5 player are playing and betting against each other, the "chance" that the other player is more skilled than his opponent is very possible. If that is so then that player is lucky to have faced a lesser skilled opponent.    Did you see the connection of chance and luck in the example?

It is indeed like that, in this case with PS5 players the most skilled wins, it is a fact, and that you can bet is also a fact, but we start from a free game, that you do not have to pay absolutely anything to do it, only if and only if the player is willing to bet, but it is something else, for me it is a normal game in which bets are made with a different concept, but that applies to be analogous to the subject, when we talk about casinos and their internal games, we are clear that the games are luck and chance, skill is on the side where we cannot trust, unless we are very expert in poker, and although in poker things change greatly and a lot of credit is given to those who are more expert, since there they do have the advantage.
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