Can maths help you win in gambling ? - page 21.

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Quote from: emberbekas on December 04, 2017, 07:13:43 AM

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Quote from: katinko on December 04, 2017, 01:39:51 AM

I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.

Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

Indeed we need strategy while gambling and most often math will be included on such strategy. But believe me, there is no strategy to guarantee that we will win the game. That is why some people says that math won't help us to win the game.

Math could never be the way on how we could win against the house in gambling, because math is just play a small role in gambling, and that is when we are calculating the bets that we are going to make each to know if how many rounds we could make, and if you are going to think that MATH could helps you in gambling, then I suggest you not to gamble anymore because you are just going to lose all of your money.

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Quote from: milewilda on December 04, 2017, 08:19:44 AM

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Quote from: katinko on December 04, 2017, 01:39:51 AM

I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.

Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

Indeed we need strategy while gambling and most often math will be included on such strategy. But believe me, there is no strategy to guarantee that we will win the game. That is why some people says that math won't help us to win the game.

Include me on those person who dont really believe on maths but somehow these things do really add some thrill or enjoyment since we can able to make strategies basing on mathematical calculations but doesnt mean it would increase the chance of winning unless if we are lucky then these things will really help us out but we should not really rely on this one.

- I think math can help us increase our chances of winning, but it is in sports gambling because I often see professional gamblers on sports gambling, they often through the numbers and data in the past, then make statistics, calculate the probability and make the final decision, their winning rate can be said to be quite high. However, personally, I am not a professional gambler, I gamble for fun, I feel that I do not need to calculate or use mathematics in gambling, I just want entertainment after a tiring working week, applying mathematics to gambling just makes me more of a headache

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I don't think math helps us to win in gambling. Gambling is just pure luck. Math is helpful in terms of investments but in gambling, it does not help.

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Quote from: michkima on December 01, 2017, 05:12:32 AM

Though that is quite different from gambling itself. The fact is in lotto it is indeed possible to hit the numbers no matter what if you placed a bet on all possible combinations. But usually it would never be worth it to be on all those combinations as it would take more money to do so than what you will win, so no one ever does do it. This is different in games like dice or anything else, since you cannot place a bet on all numbers and you cannot do any math to actually win the game.

Well how about roulette?
Is it counted as gamble?

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Quote from: emberbekas on December 04, 2017, 07:13:43 AM

Quote from: Dontme on December 04, 2017, 02:21:45 AM

Quote from: katinko on December 04, 2017, 01:39:51 AM

I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.

Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

Indeed we need strategy while gambling and most often math will be included on such strategy. But believe me, there is no strategy to guarantee that we will win the game. That is why some people says that math won't help us to win the game.

Include me on those person who dont really believe on maths but somehow these things do really add some thrill or enjoyment since we can able to make strategies basing on mathematical calculations but doesnt mean it would increase the chance of winning unless if we are lucky then these things will really help us out but we should not really rely on this one.

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Quote from: Dontme on December 04, 2017, 02:21:45 AM

Quote from: katinko on December 04, 2017, 01:39:51 AM

I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.

Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

Not all gambling needs mathematical expertise in order to win the game, and the only game that applicable to math strategy is only the game of cards and the rest of game like for those computer generated gambling games is just go with the flow of luck in winning the game.

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In a real casino math is to calculate your bankroll and winning chance- but still you stand no chance against a good dealer regarding the roulette. I have seen guys landing the ball in desired zone of the wheel...But that is different story. Online casinos are different. I conducted an experiment regarding the roulette. 35 low rolls on a fresh account with no bet history, and then I bet on all the numbers which didn't come out in those 35 rolls - 11 in total. I got a hit. Next roll- I got a hit as well. So I continued the system until there were 4 numbers left and I stopped. My longest loosing streak was 4 rolls. Lucky? Beginners luck. Random generator is supposed to generate random numbers within 0- 36 (speaking of roulette), and it will generate 98% of those numbers in 100 rolls. If you have empty roll history.... The more you play the more complicated the things become. In the long run you gonna lose...

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Quote from: Dontme on December 04, 2017, 02:21:45 AM

Quote from: katinko on December 04, 2017, 01:39:51 AM

I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.

Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

Indeed we need strategy while gambling and most often math will be included on such strategy. But believe me, there is no strategy to guarantee that we will win the game. That is why some people says that math won't help us to win the game.

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Quote from: katinko on December 04, 2017, 01:39:51 AM

I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.

Why? Playing gambling need some strategies. Knowledge about math is also strategy that you can use when playing gambling. In order for you to win sometimes you need to use strategies.

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I do not think math will helps you to win in gambling because all of this are base on the luck of every players even you are more experienced gambler you can not take that as advantage to the players having great luck in gambling even they are only new in gambling.

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Quote from: Protected101 on November 30, 2017, 04:11:58 AM

I thought it was not about if your a mathatician but based on my experience those gamblers who are expert are good in their math subject ,but I know it depends on luck because we have no statistical explanation when we play gambling.It a luck when you are winning on it and no skills to learn because we not know what happen in a game.

Indeed, gambling is a game which is totally dependent on luck and we should understand that no mathematician is going to win the bet just because of his good command on numbers. Gambling is the thing which is very unpredictable and we never know which is going to happen next in the game. Gambling is a game which is just going to make you rich when your luck is in your favor, otherwise you will lose.

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Quote from: moooonu on December 03, 2017, 10:07:36 AM

Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house.

Right. It's a waste of time more often than not. If.you'te gping to be using math or analyzing data, might as well do trading. You'll have way better chance there than in gambling

Well maths can help your strategy in games if you ever get one but it will not single handedly make you win games because there is more to gambling than numbers and since maths deals with numbers and its manipulations then it makes no sense to rely on it to win games.

If only being good in math is the only way to win then for sure there are a lot of gamblers who are already exploiting the gambling sites now, the thing is we have to deal with the reality which we also need to manage our emotion, mind and emotion should be both stable in order for us to win and be a successful gambler even in the long run.

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Quote from: crypto1010 on December 03, 2017, 08:56:22 AM

Honestly if we are going to say math will help then this is as good as saying gambling is for intellects which isn't true, math might give you the edge but won't guarantee you that you will register more wins than the guy not applying math to play because gambling is a game of luck...the earlier we accept this fact the safer we are from losing more money.

For some people, they think poker needs some special mathematical formulas to manipulate the existing system. But it can not be done alone and need a genius to do it. That means, not everyone can win gambling poker and it needs someone with special abilities. But that's just the theory from me, I never experienced or saw directly. Maybe for some gambling it does need a mathematical formula, but I guess that's almost impossible to do. If you want to know, you have to learn and memorize things. But rather than memorizing the way to play gambling, why not learn another business or another job that is more comfortable, safe, and risk free?

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Quote from: gabmen on December 03, 2017, 11:42:56 AM

Quote from: moooonu on December 03, 2017, 10:07:36 AM

Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house.

Right. It's a waste of time more often than not. If.you'te gping to be using math or analyzing data, might as well do trading. You'll have way better chance there than in gambling

Well maths can help your strategy in games if you ever get one but it will not single handedly make you win games because there is more to gambling than numbers and since maths deals with numbers and its manipulations then it makes no sense to rely on it to win games.

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Quote from: moooonu on December 03, 2017, 10:07:36 AM

Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house.

Right. It's a waste of time more often than not. If.you'te gping to be using math or analyzing data, might as well do trading. You'll have way better chance there than in gambling

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Math can help you to stand a chance against the house. Math can make you last a little longer but in the end we all know that its house who wins. No matter what or how big mathematician you are. Probability always favor the house.

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Honestly if we are going to say math will help then this is as good as saying gambling is for intellects which isn't true, math might give you the edge but won't guarantee you that you will register more wins than the guy not applying math to play because gambling is a game of luck...the earlier we accept this fact the safer we are from losing more money.

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Quote from: michkima on November 30, 2017, 08:14:53 AM

Quote from: Zero_Cloo on November 30, 2017, 04:56:01 AM

If you're good enough at math you can win consistently at gambling. Not at all gambling - a big part of what the math is there for is to make sure you're always in profitable situations. It will never magically make you win at roulette. But it will let you identify the games and situations you can win at, and if you stick to them you will make money in the long term.

Not really. Math cannot change the fact that most gambling games are probability based only and cannot really be affected by anything else. Once you spun the wheel there is no other thing you can do about it. It will be a win or a lose no matter if you are a mathematical genius. The only thing you will have if you use math is that you will realize that it can't help and that you know what are the chances you will win or lose in one game or in the long run.

Bolded is exactly where you have it, you just don't know. You have to do the math before you decide whether or not to spin the wheel.

If you understand a game, and its conditions, mathematically, then you can make good decisions to only play in +ev situations and maximize your bankroll growth and in the long term you will make money.

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LUCK can be on your side not maths

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Quote from: raven7886 on December 02, 2017, 06:15:02 AM

You have said it all bro! It is just pure luck and I wonder what people always think when they feel they could just draw up a strategy to always make them win in gambling. The best form of mathematics that would have helped in gambling is probability, since gambling anyway, is a game of chance.

What the fuck are you talking about ? The discussion is about math being used to beat the gambling odds,don't know where have you dragged 'luck' into this.In the world of numbers,you brought a an uninvited guest to the table.

Quote from: raven7886 on December 02, 2017, 06:15:02 AM

After all, the thing is, even with the probability, the answer you get is either this or not, and you may not even be lucky enough even when your chances of winning were still high.

Maths is what probability is calculation is,If one can successfully do it,they bring 'luck' with them according to you?

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