Can You See Or Tell If A Fight Or Event Is Fix ? - page 15.

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Quote from: Saisher on June 04, 2022, 09:46:28 AM

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

Hard to tell and most probably, they will not show it to the public since it can ruin their reputation. Maybe in Boxing you can tell if the match is fixed or not especially with those retired boxer and then suddenly came back with a match against Youtuber, that's an obvious fixed matches for me and you should already know where to place your bet.
I just wonder if all the players in team sports are in favor to this kind of fixed game or matches because it can also happen to Basketball or even on a football, there must be a huge price for this so they can accept the offer under the table. Everything is possible nowadays as long as you have the money to pay for it, you can imagine big things here.

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We always question when a team or a athlete performance suddenly turns into bad and we always think that maybe it was fixed and it was deliberate. But then it is just our own conclusions and we don't know if it is true or not unless the organizations confirmed what we have suspected in the beginning. But I would say that many has been caught including a referee in a professional league, - NBA because he was addicted to sports betting.

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I can only suspect, but cannot conclude right away that the match or game is fixed. It is actually hard. But it is easy to spot questionable moves or decisions. But these moves or decisions could actually be due to a lot of factors like pressure, strategy, injury, panic, and many others.

The latest fixed games that I remember watching was a regional basketball game and a Southeast Asia DOTA match. The very bad moves were so obviously intentional that you could really suspect something fishy could be going on behind them. But even so, there were still formal investigations launched, which officially declared the matches rigged. Punishments were then imposed.

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I mostly watch and bet on popular events and even when they make the weirdest mistakes that could quickly shift the momentum of the game it's still difficult to tell at a glance unless there are other ways to confirm it's fixed so I have to say no. Also from what i've seen these cases tend to happen in the lower leagues which I usually avoid as I don't want to get involved in those leagues as a sports bettor. Even in esports I remember some of the casters mentioned that fixing frequently happens on certain regions but it's tough to catch them since there's no evidence to back them up.

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I don't think about whether the match or fight is fixed or going on normally because all I want is to bet and watch the game. Maybe it could be that the game is fixed by people who want their team or players to win but I don't think about it. If you keep thinking about the fixed match, you will not enjoy the game and will only think about it. We will never know for sure because the people who set the match will hide it from the public.

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Quote from: Saisher on June 04, 2022, 09:46:28 AM

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

I usually watch cricket and in that sport sometimes we can judge that the match is fixed if the strong team is behaving abnormally and showing bad performances. I understand that any good team can loss on any given day but the body language of the players sometimes tell you that the players are losing the match as if they have fixed it. Still no one can be 100% sure if the match was fixed or not.

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I think I have read it here also in the forum since someone mentioned it about mafia thing which in boxing, if the referee is wearing an ear piece, he could be listening to instructions from the mafia guys. And when we say mafia guys, it includes the promotion and their boxing trainers.

I can't be too sure for this but there were sports match fixers talking about it in youtube. The possibility that its them conspiring each other and its a matter of team work too. No thugs among them.

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I consider a fixed match when I see the boxer show poor performance while he have fought many good boxers before. It doesn't make sense how the boxer almost didn't doing anything and only run away like worried to get punched, it's a boring and for sure he will lose. Do you think a boxer that fight in the ring doesn't want to win? What does his purpose then? for money behind the agreement.

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There are these sort of fixing in most of the games where they see lot of bets would be there say for million of dollars so the outcome of these matches is totally the opposite of what it might seems to you.We can feel it to some extent that they are losing intentionally or not if you are associated with the particular game from long but can't do anything about it but still think there should be fair play.

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I am a cricket enthusiastic so can say about cricket, yes if you know cricket then you can tell easily that a match is fixed or not. For instance, the Recent Indian Premier League 2022 was completely fixed. I am not the one who is saying this alone in fact majority of people who understand cricket can easily say that after seeing the outcome of matches.
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I can't tell but what I am quite sure of is that the more important the competition and the teams, the more unlikely it is that someone will let himself be sold. An NBA match between the Heats and the Celtics is very unlikely to be fixed. The Champions League final between Real Madrid and Liverpool the same. Now, a match between two Italian Serie B soccer teams is not so unlikely.

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Quote from: Saisher on June 04, 2022, 09:46:28 AM

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

There is indeed a possibility that any match or game is fixed. Just because the tiny unrealistic possibility exists does not merit any realistic concern of having it fixed. I mean, everyone wants to know if a match is fixed. But who is going to tell anyone the truth? And furthermore it's a huge risk to take, the larger the match is.

Now some tiny, underground shady match might definitely be fixed. But you should be able to listen to your gut..

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I wouldn't think a fight or event is fixed if it's a big match against two strong fighter/club that really want to become a champion. I mostly watch a football match and I don't think it's a fixed match because it doesn't make sense if he want to lose for money, AFAIK they already got a huge paycheck and full of endorsement. It's will different with boxing, mma and such similar sports, they fix the match by cherry pick a weak fighter.

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Quote from: Saisher on June 04, 2022, 09:46:28 AM

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

Not until there's news that a certain event was rigged, confirmed, and proven to be true, that's the time we can make it an official rigged game.

But if there's a game that you think was rigged and no issues raised on that match, then just keep it to yourself claiming it's really rigged.

That really happened but I doubt it's the always case we can see especially in Big and International Leagues.

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Quote from: Saisher on June 04, 2022, 09:46:28 AM

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

I didn't know that a lot of people here believe that at least some matches in sports are fixed, I don't fell alone and crazy, I've been trying to find a way to spot a fixed match and what is fixed about it but it's hard, very hard, there are plenty of things they can rig and not just the result, but I noticed something while watching the match of Italy vs Spain in Euro semi finals, when they reached the penalty shootouts after a draw, every player and fans should be stressed at that moment, but the camera showed Chiellini laughing and picking up jordi alba for some reason and Alba was having none of that with straight bothered face, it looked like Chiellini he was celebrating when he was supposed to be stressed in a semi final not knowing who's gonna win, I ran to my room and grabbed my phone and placed a bet on them, and of course I won.

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Quote from: Saisher on June 04, 2022, 09:46:28 AM

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

There are some external signs that may indicate that a game has undergone "game fixing."

I remember, there was a basketball event held in the Philippines where players should have been competitive with each other. Unfortunately, during the 2nd quarter and onwards, the players just started scrambling; turnovers and pointless shots were made. It is like, no effort has been made at all. This was very surprising given that the team that threw the game played well in their previous games.

If you guys are curious, here is the YouTube link for you to judge and watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc9QCbO5Ph8&t=8s

It's obviously fixed and they are not good at hiding it, usually, game-fixing appears in the late minute of the quarter or rounds they excite people and make it appear that they are into the game and very competitive until the time that they are going to fix the game, sometimes they discuss on how to hide it, they don't just lose interest and misses opportunities to make points if they do that its already a giveaway and they will be questioned for their action or lack of action.

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Yes, like in horse racing for instance, I personally know a lot of jockeys back in the days and they said they can make the horse not win and fix the outcome if the owners says so. What they do though is the obvious, if the horse is known to go on the front at the starting gate, the jockey will simply place them behind and then they will do just leisure holding, meaning they are not going to push the horse unless they are closer in the finish line. Or they will loosely, just hold the saddle and then pace the horse, in short break the horse rhythm or at least not play with the horse strengths.

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Quote from: Saisher on June 04, 2022, 09:46:28 AM

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

There are some external signs that may indicate that a game has undergone "game fixing."

I remember, there was a basketball event held in the Philippines where players should have been competitive with each other. Unfortunately, during the 2nd quarter and onwards, the players just started scrambling; turnovers and pointless shots were made. It is like, no effort has been made at all. This was very surprising given that the team that threw the game played well in their previous games.

If you guys are curious, here is the YouTube link for you to judge and watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc9QCbO5Ph8&t=8s

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Quote from: Saisher on June 04, 2022, 09:46:28 AM

It could be on basketball, boxing or horse racing, or any kind of sport, after being in a particular sport for many years can you see or tell if a fight or event is fixed, there are upsets but in the back of our mind, there's a possibility that the match or game is fixed.

Well if you see that when your superstar is not playing his usual self, then maybe you can tell that he deliberately taking a dive and wanted to lose the game in any purpose. So I will say there are tall tale signs that it is fixed. Could be different at first, but you know when sports bookies notice some swing of bets, that's where the investigations starts specially in basketball, wherein what they call point-shaving. There was one player caught with it and his career was over.

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Sometimes when i watch football i wonder how a profesional player can miss a goal with an empty net or a reefery decision of canceling a goal when the goal seems legit after a VAR review not only in football but in sports in general i think match fixing is a possibility especially since gambling is a billion dollars industry.

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