Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 66. (Read 12549 times)

Some casino adopted with KYC because government regulation, protecting from money laundering make them have to require with KYC or their operation will stop by government if mustn't for all casino user have verifying their document. For the future, not difference or worry when verifying casino account because our document have been publish early with exchange market account. Why must aware when some casino have regulation for verifying document ID if want withdraw amount in casino account?
Don't be blame when CEX exchange make regulation for all user have to verifying account there are not any complaint, its risk when active in casino site have allow what rule or term of service in casino site.

Yes before you choose a casino to play on,  you need to have a settlement of mind before you consider them,  for instance in making the choice either to do KYC or not and this should be the determinants point of choosing the site.

Casinos have no right to not ask for customer kyc documents since they have to comply with the government rules on anti-money laundering and the rest of the laws attached to the licensing,  those that do not want to comply with kyc demands have to look else where fhat doesn't demand kyc such as decentralized casinos.

While you could classify it as shitty behaviour, we are at a point now where everyone should expect identity verification when doing something like gambling. It is historically a notorious sector for money laundering so they get some of the strictest rules enforced against them and every player should expect to be asked for it. Besides that there are other things like very generous financial bonuses that they give away, which only work if they know the players genuine and unique, so many people try to abuse these things. There are plenty of good reasons for KYC, but you're right that they should be upfront about requiring it or at least state any limits they might impose.

Because of this KYC verification, many gamblers have to think a lot while selecting a gambling website. There are many gamblers who try to do various illegal activities using gambling websites, due to which other gamblers also have to do KYC verification due to this problem. It is a brutal fact that when a gambler wins huge on a gambling website, that gambling website will try their best to find any excuse to block the withdrawal of that gambler. So a gambler then has nothing to do but wait for the decision of that gambling website, because KYC verification is then forced on those gamblers.

I hate what people allowed running a business to become. We've allowed them to turn us into slaves drowning in paperwork and red tape.
You should be allowed to run a business whenever and however you want. If the business is inefficient, losing you money, scamming customers, it's all on you. If they come at you with pitchforks, there's nothing anybody can do to defend you.

Clients should demand full transparency from a business and if there's not enough of it, they should go somewhere else. That's how free market should work. Instead the business owner has to treat every customer like a potential criminal and act like the police on behalf of the government. This has to change.

What you said about no casino hiding its KYC policy may not be completely true. We know there are bad operators among the casino operators and this bad ones can hide their TC in very lengthy written articles because they know that many customers do not like to read such article to the end. No one want to waste time struggling to read things that are tiny. Those who do not read TC will not know what is there and what to expect from the casino, whether there is a KYC or not and that can make them conclude that there was never a KYC from the beginning.

This is a clear example of the problem of centralization. Earlier, the guys correctly noted that the casino and the company that created it are licensed and officially registered in any country. If the user violates the law, the casino may also be held liable before the law. Until there are truly decentralized casinos (similar to DEX), we will be faced with the requirement of KYC/AML.

It would be fair if they were transparent about it from the start, and didn't tell their customers that they won't ask for KYC at any point during their stay at the casino. In that case, if they ask for KYC during a withdrawal, there is nothing wrong with that. However, if they have said that they won't ask for KYC from their customers no matter what happens, and then if they start asking for KYC verification at the time of withdrawal, that is not really fair to the players.

Most casinos these days that are operating under a license would ask for KYC verification at some point and they don't mention anything about it beforehand, though they will have it in their terms and conditions and most gamblers don't really read the terms and conditions unless they get in trouble.

We have a situation where some gamblers don't read the casino TOS but don't forget we also have a situation where the casino breached their TOS and made a false excuse just to scam their users.
Therefore, I suggest gamblers first be sure about the honesty of the casino service, and read the TOS, minimum, and Maximum (deposit and withdraw). These are mostly what causes scam accusations of casinos.

This is only applicable to fair and honest casinos. Some lied in their TOS just to attract more ftds.

Not many actually take out the time to read the TOS of a casino before they go ahead with account creation and possibly making deposits and thereafter encounter problems that may be difficult for them to handle and afterward cry out like babies, most gambling site have their tos clearly published on their website so no gambler have the moral right to accuse a casino for jot allowing them to withdraw when they already mentioned what requirement you need to meet before having your withdrawal processed.
So basically if a casino will ask for KYC either at the point of account creation or ask for it later it is all stated in the tos as to when to expect KYC and what you should be asked for for the verification processes.

Whether we do like it or not but still we would really be still abiding on what are the rules and conditions that they have set specially if your funds been locked up then there's nothing you can do but to comply on whats been asked even if you do say that you do really value your information or personal identification that much but since we are talking about money then it would really become in your least priority which its not really that a shocking thing. This is why it would really be always ideal that you should really make yourself that prepared on whatever possible cimcumstances that you might experience yet we know that they are really the ones who get a hold of our funding and on the time that we do make out some huge win then they would really be having that high chance on asking out for some verification. Actually its not really that hard to comply about with those needed information specially if it is really that our money is being locked.

I agree with those suggestions that if you dont like on experiencing some potential problems such as this then it would be better that you do go and play into those sites which are known
on having no kyc on the time that you do pull out big amounts into their platform. All of casinos wont really be asking out kyc on the time that you do make out deposits
and shady ones are the only places that will really be asking out on the time that you do withdraw even if the amount isnt really that significant.

You are right, it's definitely better to ask for KYC when user registers instead of asking it when user tries to withdraw money. To be honest, I think that 99% of casinos act like this (deposit first, KYC later when you decide to withdraw) because there is a chance user will leave funds on casino and not do KYC, the chance is especially big if user doesn't have to withdraw a lot of money. If they really care about money laundering, then why do they accept coins without KYC in the first place? C'mon, sadly, law is on their side. It drives me crazy when even governments push them to implement KYC but don't care when a data of their own citizens gets leaked.

There's no problem with making withdrawal from the casinos irrespective of the amount you want to withdraw as long as you have every required documents and information needed for that stage, the process are direction and the procedures are simple, if you have the opportunity to use a non KYC casinos then make your decision if you think you will have issues with the KYC verification processes, most of the casinos will not require kyc until they find you on their request for making withdrawal, they will request for kyc because they are centralized and operates under such, it's not possible that they changed from a no KYC casino to kyc casino just because of your own sake, it's either a casino supports kyc or it does not.

Many casino sites advertise themselves as no kyc sites to attract gamblers.  But since they do business with a license they won't give you a chance to withdraw huge amount without kyc because then many people can launder thousands of crores anonymously.  But when someone does kyc, even if they do huge transactions, if any illegal activity is found, that person can be tracked according to his kyc documents.  So no one gives you complete kyc free service in gambling industry

It has become commonplace for casinos to ask their customers to do KYC. Casinos also only follow the regulations of the regulator and try to implement them well. If customers don't want to do KYC at that casino, they can look for it at another casino because some still allow their customers not to do KYC. But customers must also understand that there are limits to how they can continue to gamble and withdraw their money because if customers want to withdraw larger amounts of money, they have to do KYC for further checks. And it will be up to the customers to choose it.

All gambling site won't profitable for their costumer and required with KYC when withdrawing fund will make costumer face difficult, important for gambler if won't their data or document keep privacy never try with gambling site if worry when withdrawing later requirement with KYC. Have one possibility if won't KYC and withdrawing still process make withdrawing with few amount under $500 and seems gambling platform not required with KYC.

Withdrawing big amount always get problem for all gambling platform, its not problem with KYC level until upload document ID and selfie picture but some gambling site we need upload document proof until book bank raising KYC level four if want withdraw big amount.

Yeah, I do have a problem with these casinos. Your annoyance? I can feel it in my body. Making us go through a lot of trouble just to get our money seems like a sneaky plan to me. This act of hiding KYC standards really bothers me; it feels like a nasty surprise waiting to happen. I've been caught off guard, and I know how angry that makes you.

Try not to be victims. I agree that prior KYC checks are wise and strategic. KYC first makes sense, right? Take charge and demand respect and transparency. We must get what we want, right? We play games we like, not their rules. Players, the lifeblood of casinos, must change things and recover power.


For the change we want to see, we must work together, raise our voice. It's our money, our freedom, and the fun we're having. No one wants the excitement and fun of online gambling destroyed by strange and stupid KYC procedure. It's high time we got what we deserve

It is always a problem when it comes to games of chance, about the things that must be done when we are registering in a casino, the ugly task of reading almost carefully so as not to get into trouble because of the Tosses, or knowing how to defend ourselves. Faced with any problem, when there are clauses of this style it is like playing dirty against the player, because only with that is it enough to grab and demand KYC, and given that now the issue is based on KYC, doing some things that they do not want what the players do, because that is something that is presented, in this case it is angry to do it, because if they promote something that is not true, it is angry, in my case when I play, I always like to be present when they tell me that there is no type of problem with KYC.

The Kyc for many players is the main obstacle to being able to make withdrawals is that, the KYC, so if they ask for it they must be sincere, as I have said in many threads, they should rather say that they need to do a good KYC before the deposit, because then The player is well prepared, at this point things can present themselves this way, so that they are not deceived, so we must consider all these things.

When a casino is sincere or there is a problem , they must do it , because before Making any deposit, if the KYC is done and it is confirmed that it is okay, then they should provide the address to make a deposit, this is what we must always demand, Only once I entered a casino to be able to withdraw, they asked me for KYC, and with all my anger I had to do it, but that was long before the boom in which KYC became an obligation , something that It didn't seem like it to me, currently things are very focused on KYC and the way of doing things for that, that's why I would like all of us to decide how things are, my advice will always be to be able to do the KYC to be Able to have more Easy withdrawal Options , but at the most Reliable Casinos.

Uo I think it would be fair to usually ask for identity cases when making a very large withdrawal and it is to see who you are dealing with and verifications that they usually ask for once and it is a regulation that is within the license

You are correct in saying that no business wants to give their potential customers a hard time, but you think it's fine for them to not ask KYC and let you deposit only to give the customer a hard time later?

I would rather if KYC is required that they do it before I make any sort of deposit. Yes, people should read the ToS, but how many actually do?