Topic: Cheating or Not? - page 9. (Read 1304 times)
This is one of the usual sentiments of hunters. In the end of the campaign they will suddenly requiring hunters to pass a kyc, need to abide or else you wont get the rewards. Just like what others said its on the rule, they can change it anytime. If you still join despite that then it means you understand everything even they happen to replace some of the set rules from the beginning.
When getting project need your KYC document for bounty campaign or exchange website, check reputation first and looking how trusted their site before you give your document, I don't care without get payment with some bounty campaign project need our ID but little reward giving and I miss it.
Thats the bad part there. We do KYC for the sake of small reward but in return we can suffer from a very bad situation that our info could leak and be used to illegal activity. Yes bounty campaign without kyc is good and should only be implemented by investors as KYC describe its purpose clearly. I assume the only thing we should do is the KYC on the exchange it is listed and that one fact cannot be denied that we must do unless there is a way for us to exchange those rewards without KYC on that exchanges requiring it.
Cheating or NOT Cheating?
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
Sometimes the company or the team are the one responsible the bounty managers doesn't really have a thing to do to what the team wanted. At most cases they could easily change the rules since their own the platform. Base on your situation you said that they are promoters so for sure they are just bounty hunters, for sure exchanges have different rules and today I know a lot of exchange in the past that doesn't required KYC but today they required it already. If the team are the one who own the exchange for sure it was cheating at me since I already joined rules should be followed but if you look it on the other way you can really complained about it. Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
If it was stated in the beginning about that no KYC and then suddenly changed, you can make it appeal to the team. Which i think is useless, I mean. Their project means they can change the rules.
May I know what's the name of that project you are referring to? Therr are a lot of projects like that, changing rules. It's either two way: for the betterment of the project or to scam their participants or members.
May I know what's the name of that project you are referring to? Therr are a lot of projects like that, changing rules. It's either two way: for the betterment of the project or to scam their participants or members.
When getting project need your KYC document for bounty campaign or exchange website, check reputation first and looking how trusted their site before you give your document, I don't care without get payment with some bounty campaign project need our ID but little reward giving and I miss it.
If there is no such requirement on predetermined rules, adding this rule is clearly cheating. Sometimes, the bounty managers can insure themselves with writing the guaranteed lines(like the decision of the manager is final) on the first lines of bounty thread.
true sometimes there are also managers who provide additional rules that say the rules can change at any time, but if there are no rules like that should be asked because from the beginning there was no mention of the rules for KYC, I have participated in several bounties like that so I was forced to send my document to take my payment 
Cheating or NOT Cheating?
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
I heard there are certain rules over there at altcoinstalk forum guiding the processes of running bounty campaigns, unfortunately there aren't such of things here in bitcointalk. This community have experience thousands of project developers turning tail when it's time to make payment or when campaign is ended just to refuse hunters payment, i can't help but wonder when the bitcointalk forum management will introduce some laid rules guiding the running of bounty campaigns here because projects are really cheating hunters with the desclaimer of "the team and the manager reserve the right to make any rules during or after the end of the campaign". It is common here for devolopers and managers to extend payment schedule, introduce kyc, as well as organise a split payments structure that will last for months just till the token get dump on the exchanges. The activities of running bounty campaign here need regulations.
Cheating or NOT Cheating?
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
If they are talking about another exchange then that is not cheating but if they are talking on their own exchange I think something wrong with that project. If they are planning on Exchange that is asking for a KYC, it can still be a legal project because they are not connected to that exchange and that is the rules of the exchange. Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
Yes, that would be valid if the coin will be listed in an exchange that requires KYC.
It is not on their hands about this requirement, because it is already outside their project.
But if it is their own exchange, then, they should have informed their participants about such requirement.
Really hard to trust bounty projects nowadays.
i think they have the right to change the rules if they think some people are cheating, you see there are some people who uses multiple account for a bounty just to have more than what is really assign for a person, you can't blame them, because they are the one who makes the rules and if they think there are some people who took advantage of something they have the power to change the rules, on the other hand if its not a legit projects they are just harvesting information, my suggestion is to check the project properly and if you think its not doing well, just step back.
Cheating or NOT Cheating?
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
You should check all their rules whether they also include that they can change the rules anytime or something like that but if there is no rule that are stating something like that then it is very obvious that they are mocking the bounty hunters. It will be good if they will be reported, the same with the bounty manager or you create a thread with regards to their behavior so everyone will be aware and avoid them. Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
I am not really familiar with the rules of altcointalk but if they can somehow banned the project owner account and red tag the bounty manager then it can really help. KYC is an obvious violation of rules if it was not stated in their bounty campaign rules and I really hate KYC as anyone can easily use your credentials without your permission so make sure that you will use wisely your KYC credentials.
Cheating or NOT Cheating?
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
If they are talking about another exchange then that is not cheating but if they are talking on their own exchange I think something wrong with that project. If they are planning on Exchange that is asking for a KYC, it can still be a legal project because they are not connected to that exchange and that is the rules of the exchange. Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
If there is no such requirement on predetermined rules, adding this rule is clearly cheating. Sometimes, the bounty managers can insure themselves with writing the guaranteed lines(like the decision of the manager is final) on the first lines of bounty thread.
I'm thinking that the KYC issue that comes up after the bounty is finished can be intentional from the project team either to trap bounty cheaters out but I think KYC should be announced earlier at the beginning of bounty so that it will be a thing of choice.
I believe this is not new and a lot have been discuss here on the forum. Now in as much as the manager have stated at the end of the campaign that the term and condition of the campaign can be changed, I don't see it as scam because sometime dev team might decide to change what have said earlier to suit the project and sometime this is used to reduce the number of token to be allocated to hunters
in my opinion it's not a cheat because as far as I know the rules about kyc are very random for now because since 2017/2018 period is over, always kyc is prioritized even if it's a project that is sorry rubbish, I once followed a signature campaign and only got $ 20 from one month working on some bounty and because the requirement to claim reward is kyc I ignored it and now the token is worth nothing.
You have to familiarize yourself with that friend. a few years after ICO, quite a lot of devs really liked to change the rules they made, and I felt that it was a bad decision, because it was not professional. but, you must still follow their conditions. cheating or not, only you can decide.
The OP mentioned about KYC in exchange. So if the exchange that will list the token really requires KYC, then the bounty participant can't do anything about it but comply. But if it will be listed in other exchanges without going through KYC, then maybe just wait, but have no assurance about the price. Because usually they fall hard after few weeks in trading before listing to another exchange. So if the hunter doesn't want to be surprised in the middle of the campaign, just avoid those projects that says they have the right to change the rules anytime. If you do participate, then it is all on you.
Most of the time we see in the general rules section that it's written in the end, " Team has rights to change the rules at any point in time". I think it covers everything. However, we can get it confirmed in main official telegram group about it. Having said so, this is really not good to change the rules once funds are raised or bounty is finished. I think such amendments should be announced earlier and not in the end.
I am neutral about this, bounty hunters have a point and also the manager or the team. Some bounty hunters do not want KYC because they are afraid their data will be stolen and being used for illegal purposes. As an individual, I am not comfortable with KYC too. For bounty managers, they implement KYC to eliminate cheaters and bot accounts. If the project is legit and GPDR compliance I guess both sides benefit in doing KYC.
Cheating or NOT Cheating?
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
Well, in an honest opinion you have not been cheated. But we can say that it is unfair on bounty hunters.
On Most bounty thread, there is a disclaimer that says that bounty terms or rules, are liable to change any time during or after the bounty
Secondly, while you were filling the registration form, theres a quote that asks you to accept terms / condition before enrolling. Once you do that as well, you have accepted any change as regards the bounty.
Hence, do your own research, and find quality projects to promote.
Cheating or NOT Cheating?
Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
Well, it's cheating in some way, but like others have pointed out here - they usually make it clear that they are likely to change the rules at anytime. In a situation where it wasn't mentioned, then I would say that it's a pure cheating., But there is still nothing they you can do about it, you just have to still cooperate with them as long as you're sure that you're going to be getting paid and the amount you're being paid is worth it.Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.
You can't abandon money that you have worked for a long time, because of KYC and then lose all that money, though in some cases where everything is starting to seem suspicious, you still have to do just that.
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