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Topic: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 - page 4. (Read 3233 times)

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In my opinion, too many tournaments are played nowadays, in the past you had a tournament a few times a year in which all the stars came together and then you had the world championship. Players now play against each other almost weekly, and it is always the same players with the pieces on the chessboard. I think you need to change the setup and think about a different concept. It is no longer fun for the players or for the spectators. A lot is also played online, you can watch things on various broadcasting sites, but Carlsen can also often be admired in matches against the speed chess beast Nakamura.

It is not true. Classical chess is now played with about the same frequency as before, or even less (but certainly not more). Previously, rapid chess or blitz was considered a marginal niche and no one took it seriously, but now times have changed and no one is interested in watching a game that lasts several hours. Plus, the development of the Internet allows players to play almost around the clock (if they have the strength) and this is in demand both by spectators and sponsors.

I do agree that Classical Chess is now played more in this day and age.

The problem with watching Classical Chess is the time that each players take a move. Since it takes around more than 3+ hours for the game to finish, it is relatively hard to captivate an audience in finishing a given match. This is the reason on why more rapid and blitz time formats are played regularly in these hosted and prestigious tournaments.

I strongly believe that Chess is in a good position now. Lots of streamers (e.g. Naroditsky, Nakamura, Botez sisters, Levi, etc.) are now hosting more and more videos that increase viewership in this sport.
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In my opinion, too many tournaments are played nowadays, in the past you had a tournament a few times a year in which all the stars came together and then you had the world championship. Players now play against each other almost weekly, and it is always the same players with the pieces on the chessboard. I think you need to change the setup and think about a different concept. It is no longer fun for the players or for the spectators. A lot is also played online, you can watch things on various broadcasting sites, but Carlsen can also often be admired in matches against the speed chess beast Nakamura.

It is not true. Classical chess is now played with about the same frequency as before, or even less (but certainly not more). Previously, rapid chess or blitz was considered a marginal niche and no one took it seriously, but now times have changed and no one is interested in watching a game that lasts several hours. Plus, the development of the Internet allows players to play almost around the clock (if they have the strength) and this is in demand both by spectators and sponsors.
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In my opinion, too many tournaments are played nowadays, in the past you had a tournament a few times a year in which all the stars came together and then you had the world championship. Players now play against each other almost weekly, and it is always the same players with the pieces on the chessboard. I think you need to change the setup and think about a different concept. It is no longer fun for the players or for the spectators. A lot is also played online, you can watch things on various broadcasting sites, but Carlsen can also often be admired in matches against the speed chess beast Nakamura.

The World Cup was recently won by Ding Liren, but everyone will say that Carlsen is still the best chess player. It has also been a World Cup for show and commercialism, as the best chess player in the world would not compete. I had actually hoped that Firouzja would make some more jumps soon, we all want to see him in a duel against Carlsen, but will that still happen? Ding Liren will of course have all the rights to defend his title next year, and Carlsen may not want to participate again. Carlsen seems to have lost ambition. Maybe Hans nobody wants to take a shot at the title?
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In my opinion, too many tournaments are played nowadays, in the past you had a tournament a few times a year in which all the stars came together and then you had the world championship. Players now play against each other almost weekly, and it is always the same players with the pieces on the chessboard. I think you need to change the setup and think about a different concept. It is no longer fun for the players or for the spectators. A lot is also played online, you can watch things on various broadcasting sites, but Carlsen can also often be admired in matches against the speed chess beast Nakamura.
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By the way, now the Grand Chess Tour is taking place in Bucharest and today in the third round Nepomniachtchi and Dean meet again, hehe. So far, the game is in the middle and Nepomniachtchi has a serious advantage (one and a half pawns according to the computer), but as we saw in the match for the crown, it is far from certain that it will be realized.
There is harldy any news about if - what are the updates about the tour?
I was not well and havent kept track of the update. Can anyone please update.

The day before yesterday it ended, here are the results:
https://grandchesstour.org/2023-grand-chess-tour/2023-superbet-chess-classic-romania/pairings-results

As you can see, Nepomniachtchi took 9th place, and Din 8th (out of 10 possible) - in fact, they both failed. But this is quite understandable, since after such a tense match they hardly had the strength to play classical games. I hope both chess players will improve their performance otherwise it will be quite shameful when the title holder and the challenger play worse than the rest of the tops.
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It has been weeks since Ding won the WCC and he actually faced Nepo once again in Superbet Chess Classic Round 3 in which the game ended in a draw.

Ding fought against Alireza and he lost the match; and Nepo played against Fabi and he also lost the match. Perhaps both players were really exhausted after the WCC and I think this year's candidates would be very interesting. I am just waiting for a match against Magnus and Alireza as both players will show a fantastic battle between them.

What are your thoughts on the matches of Nepo and Ding in Superbet Chess Classic? Does it really show that they are indeed exhausted and they need a break from chess to rest?
performance of the player depends on motivation from the audience- do you agree? there is a limited number of people who play chess - they are not being appreciated or encouraged
the player of chess are mostly sharp minded people who have a different way to approach the things
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I’ve never been huge in to chess but I certainly appreciate the game. I remember my young cousin teaching me how to play on a family reunion at least 15 years ago or so. It was a lot of fun but he kicked my ass. I’ve played slightly here and there & enjoy watching it from time to time. Magnus of course has been a big reason for watching…is anyone able to explain the cheating scandal Magnus was calling out with that one player recently in laments terms ?
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It has been weeks since Ding won the WCC and he actually faced Nepo once again in Superbet Chess Classic Round 3 in which the game ended in a draw.

Ding fought against Alireza and he lost the match; and Nepo played against Fabi and he also lost the match. Perhaps both players were really exhausted after the WCC and I think this year's candidates would be very interesting. I am just waiting for a match against Magnus and Alireza as both players will show a fantastic battle between them.

What are your thoughts on the matches of Nepo and Ding in Superbet Chess Classic? Does it really show that they are indeed exhausted and they need a break from chess to rest?
In my opinion the performance of the player also. depends on the audience and reward they get in form of appreciation
Chess is not much admired and appreciated so that is why the players lose interest and focus of mind
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It has been weeks since Ding won the WCC and he actually faced Nepo once again in Superbet Chess Classic Round 3 in which the game ended in a draw.

Ding fought against Alireza and he lost the match; and Nepo played against Fabi and he also lost the match. Perhaps both players were really exhausted after the WCC and I think this year's candidates would be very interesting. I am just waiting for a match against Magnus and Alireza as both players will show a fantastic battle between them.

What are your thoughts on the matches of Nepo and Ding in Superbet Chess Classic? Does it really show that they are indeed exhausted and they need a break from chess to rest?
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Chess is by far the game more books have been written about through all history, so even if it is nowhere near as popular as many other hobbies and games we see today the fact that chess has been around for thousands of years in several different forms should speak about its staying power and how popular it has been through the ages, and not only that chess is a game that improves memory, deduction and logical thinking so unlike other games chess is in fact good for you and it even offers health benefits like the delaying of degenerative mental diseases.
this is the game of strategy - the mind and the moves. I was very much fasinated  by chess game when I was young. So we gathered money and we brought ourselves a chess board. One of my cousins taught us how to play it. It was fun - we use to play it all the time.
Miss those days.

did you stop playing?

a bit off topic but related somehow:
I find it really interesting that there are chess boards of all kinds of prices
from normal popular ones to high-end special ones.
not sure if we have this in so many other markets, watches comes to my mind
That is so true with the passage of time people are making interesting thing. But not many people can concentrate on playing chess because there is so much screen distraction that most of the time people don't concentrate more than 5 mins on anytask. what do you thing about concentration problem in people
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By the way, now the Grand Chess Tour is taking place in Bucharest and today in the third round Nepomniachtchi and Dean meet again, hehe. So far, the game is in the middle and Nepomniachtchi has a serious advantage (one and a half pawns according to the computer), but as we saw in the match for the crown, it is far from certain that it will be realized.
There is harldy any news about if - what are the updates about the tour?
I was not well and havent kept track of the update. Can anyone please update.
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By the way, now the Grand Chess Tour is taking place in Bucharest and today in the third round Nepomniachtchi and Dean meet again, hehe. So far, the game is in the middle and Nepomniachtchi has a serious advantage (one and a half pawns according to the computer), but as we saw in the match for the crown, it is far from certain that it will be realized.
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Ding Liren probably won't be world champion for very long once Carlsen feels like playing again. I just don't understand what Carlsen's exact problem was, why didn't he just want to defend his title? Financially it won't be a problem. He has already indicated that he has little motivation, but he will still have to make do with the current opponents in the world top. There are new super talents, but not those that go to the 2800 rating. I would like to play Aronian in a battle for the World Cup one more time, that man has been around for a while and has already won a few times against the entire world top, including Carlsen. He is also one of the few who has won Wijk Aan Zee several times. But that was before Carlsen came to dominate chess.
Just the normal burnout you get when you're groomed to play chess to the point that it became your whole life and personality. The guy deserves a break, honestly we could leave this one tick down his record in the past once he gets the drive to play again but even if he didn't, and he felt like not playing Chess anymore, to the point that he's considering retirement (which is quite possible considering how he's made enough of himself already and how stressful the whole industry is to him) he'd still go down as one of the greatest. I have high hopes for Ding, but until he treats time wisely in his games I'm pretty sure Nepo's gonna knock him out of that pedestal sometime in the future.
I agree to you. He surly need a break - and we must appreciate all the efforts he made for the game
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Ding Liren probably won't be world champion for very long once Carlsen feels like playing again. I just don't understand what Carlsen's exact problem was, why didn't he just want to defend his title? Financially it won't be a problem. He has already indicated that he has little motivation, but he will still have to make do with the current opponents in the world top. There are new super talents, but not those that go to the 2800 rating. I would like to play Aronian in a battle for the World Cup one more time, that man has been around for a while and has already won a few times against the entire world top, including Carlsen. He is also one of the few who has won Wijk Aan Zee several times. But that was before Carlsen came to dominate chess.
Just the normal burnout you get when you're groomed to play chess to the point that it became your whole life and personality. The guy deserves a break, honestly we could leave this one tick down his record in the past once he gets the drive to play again but even if he didn't, and he felt like not playing Chess anymore, to the point that he's considering retirement (which is quite possible considering how he's made enough of himself already and how stressful the whole industry is to him) he'd still go down as one of the greatest. I have high hopes for Ding, but until he treats time wisely in his games I'm pretty sure Nepo's gonna knock him out of that pedestal sometime in the future.
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Ding Liren probably won't be world champion for very long once Carlsen feels like playing again. I just don't understand what Carlsen's exact problem was, why didn't he just want to defend his title? Financially it won't be a problem. He has already indicated that he has little motivation, but he will still have to make do with the current opponents in the world top. There are new super talents, but not those that go to the 2800 rating. I would like to play Aronian in a battle for the World Cup one more time, that man has been around for a while and has already won a few times against the entire world top, including Carlsen. He is also one of the few who has won Wijk Aan Zee several times. But that was before Carlsen came to dominate chess.

Carlsen also became world champion in speed chess and rapid chess in December, right? Or was that the year before. I can't imagine anyone else getting better than him. There are computers that can play chess, that is unprecedented how good they are. If you let a strong computer play against Magnus Carlsen for about 10 games, the final score will be about 9-1 in favor of the computer. It is impossible for a human to keep up with the level of a computer. But computers are of course ideal training partners and good for preparing yourself for new games with in-depth analyses.
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Ding Liren probably won't be world champion for very long once Carlsen feels like playing again. I just don't understand what Carlsen's exact problem was, why didn't he just want to defend his title? Financially it won't be a problem. He has already indicated that he has little motivation, but he will still have to make do with the current opponents in the world top. There are new super talents, but not those that go to the 2800 rating. I would like to play Aronian in a battle for the World Cup one more time, that man has been around for a while and has already won a few times against the entire world top, including Carlsen. He is also one of the few who has won Wijk Aan Zee several times. But that was before Carlsen came to dominate chess.
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There's no need to be upset


There we have it! Ding Liren is the new Classical World Champion as he was able to defeat Ian Nepomniachtchi during the game four of the Rapid Section! During such game, it was a draw position until when Ding was able to capitalize on putting his Queen on good squares which suffocated Nepo's position.

To be honest, I was very heartbroken to see Nepo's face during the last minute of the game. You can see that his hands were trembling with emotions as he knocked down the pieces during such moment. Though this may be the case, I am very grateful to witness this historic moment where we have our first Chinese WCC this year!


Photo taken from: https://www.instagram.com/fide_chess/

oh that's cool
interesting to see
I found a game Ding x Nepo in march 2020 but didn't find the new one
does anyone know if we can get the PGN for this game?

here's the one I found if anyone is interested

https://lichess.org/study/9epCwgXp
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A great performance by Ding Liren who has become world champion. That's something he would never have thought of on his own. Last year during the qualifying tournament he finished 2nd behind Nepo, but because Magnus Carlsen withdrew, the number 2 was also allowed to play in the final. It was an exciting and exciting match, in which the differences were minimal. Nepo often seemed to be on the right side of the score, but Ding hit back every time. The match in the 12th round was crucial, when Nepo led 6-5 and also had a good position to win. However, things went completely wrong in that match, Ding managed to win the match and that's how we got 6-6 on the board. Ding played brilliantly in the last match of the World Cup. I think Carlsen might enjoy playing Ding next year.
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There we have it! Ding Liren is the new Classical World Champion as he was able to defeat Ian Nepomniachtchi during the game four of the Rapid Section! During such game, it was a draw position until when Ding was able to capitalize on putting his Queen on good squares which suffocated Nepo's position.

To be honest, I was very heartbroken to see Nepo's face during the last minute of the game. You can see that his hands were trembling with emotions as he knocked down the pieces during such moment. Though this may be the case, I am very grateful to witness this historic moment where we have our first Chinese WCC this year!


Photo taken from: https://www.instagram.com/fide_chess/

Yes, it was very sad. But I always put aside such negative emotions from myself, because it is obvious that even despite this failure (for the second time in a row) he remains one of the most successful active chess players, and probably he has fewer problems than 99.99999% of the world's population - he has enough money to live where there is a desire, not to work, etc.
In a post-match interview, when asked if he would again try to become a world champion, he said that "I will still play chess for a while, so yes." Quite modestly.
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There we have it! Ding Liren is the new Classical World Champion as he was able to defeat Ian Nepomniachtchi during the game four of the Rapid Section! During such game, it was a draw position until when Ding was able to capitalize on putting his Queen on good squares which suffocated Nepo's position.

To be honest, I was very heartbroken to see Nepo's face during the last minute of the game. You can see that his hands were trembling with emotions as he knocked down the pieces during such moment. Though this may be the case, I am very grateful to witness this historic moment where we have our first Chinese WCC this year!


Photo taken from: https://www.instagram.com/fide_chess/
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