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Topic: [CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi - page 15. (Read 2162 times)

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I am not a pro chess player but I do know how to play a little and I want to see how they play and calculate every move. I guess many people will bet once the match begin and I think most will bet on carlsen. If I have time to bet then I would bet on carlsen too. Given the odds, it's kind of small compare to the challenger.

these calculations and surprise plays are the most amazing things
I'm always impressed how pro players can calculate all the possibilities and even more than 5 stages ahead, when I play my max is 2 or 3 movements but more than that starts to make entanglements on my brain


Chess is one of those games that builds your intellect. these calculations didn't just spring up over night it took years of dedicated learning. People study chess as a course in colleges.i haven't watched neither Carlsen nor Nepomniachtchi to do my predictions but i still don't know why most people are going for Carlsen. Chess isn't like other games here the best tactics with accurate calculation wins
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I am not a pro chess player but I do know how to play a little and I want to see how they play and calculate every move. I guess many people will bet once the match begin and I think most will bet on carlsen. If I have time to bet then I would bet on carlsen too. Given the odds, it's kind of small compare to the challenger.

these calculations and surprise plays are the most amazing things
I'm always impressed how pro players can calculate all the possibilities and even more than 5 stages ahead, when I play my max is 2 or 3 movements but more than that starts to make entanglements on my brain



These GMs have a different calculation speed on their own- like it is really out of this world on how they can calculate 5-6 moves ahead than any of normal players, even 2000+ rated ones also.

The difference between a 2600 rated GM against a 2700 GM is staggering. This has been continuously witnessed on Agadmator's channel on FB where the top 20 chess players went again 2600 GMs and the latter got completely destroyed.

Magnus Carlsen, on the other hand, has a different feel in chess- like it is his natural instincts to play those moves. I really suggest that you watch him play bullet chess in lichess (tons of videos on YouTube) where you can see their calculation speed and pattern recognition.
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I am not a pro chess player but I do know how to play a little and I want to see how they play and calculate every move. I guess many people will bet once the match begin and I think most will bet on carlsen. If I have time to bet then I would bet on carlsen too. Given the odds, it's kind of small compare to the challenger.

these calculations and surprise plays are the most amazing things
I'm always impressed how pro players can calculate all the possibilities and even more than 5 stages ahead, when I play my max is 2 or 3 movements but more than that starts to make entanglements on my brain


These chess players have been doing this activity most of their lives, so they are used to think 5 steps ahead and beyond. This is not for people who has short temper as you will really get a headache thinking about the moves. But the game will be interesting once there are only few pieces left on the board.

If you have strong notion with Carlsen, you can bet on him, and just wait for the day to be over to see the results.
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There's no need to be upset
I am not a pro chess player but I do know how to play a little and I want to see how they play and calculate every move. I guess many people will bet once the match begin and I think most will bet on carlsen. If I have time to bet then I would bet on carlsen too. Given the odds, it's kind of small compare to the challenger.

these calculations and surprise plays are the most amazing things
I'm always impressed how pro players can calculate all the possibilities and even more than 5 stages ahead, when I play my max is 2 or 3 movements but more than that starts to make entanglements on my brain

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this is unique, because this is the first time I see a thread about chess matches because I really like this game and I am interested in discussing a lot about this.
On the other hand, regarding this match, if you look at a survey conducted by chess.com some time ago, around 84% support the defending champion and the remaining 16% want a new champion.

To be honest, this is to be expected given the experience of Magnus in the pressure of facing the WC matches. Imagine, you are fighting for the WC title against the arguably the best chess player ever to touch the board. Given also the age of engines and computers, the fact that Magnus can still convert drawish positions to a win speaks a lot about his natural talent and instincts on the game.

Like what I previously mentioned, while Magnus is definitely favored to win, I am sure Nepo has prepared tons of preparation under his sleeve given that he is a very aggressive and unorthodox player which might caught Magnus off-guard (though I highly doubt so).
as you said even though some time ago nepo won the FIDE Candidates Tournament 2020-2021 very well but to fight magnus is a different matter, in all respects Magnus is very superior and will not be overtaken by nepo.
even though nepo is a good chess player and his style is distinctive but Magnus is a level above with calculations and natural talent that he has.
but it's really worth watching because it's something good especially when it comes to fighting for a pretty prestigious title
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first time i see chess on this part of the forum too
would be really interesting to have more discussions about gambling on chess games

are there active platforms to bet on chess games?
where is the best place to watch these?

maybe the reason why this is not being actively discussed in this forum is because even top bookies here are not listing chess in their list.
but you can check these sites - cryptobetting.net & bitcasinosreviews for possible bookies that may list chess

but already checked at stake and they dont have this event yet.

however, you can check cloudbet with odds of 1.27 vs 3.55, in favour of carlsen


Could that be the reason for chess unpopular and at that chess players preferred to play it physically but for the event of covid 19 and social distance rules in place many players are now considering play chess online.
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What do you mean no time limit? Yes, this might be a lengthy game, but eventually they have to settle the game, either by a win by Carlsen the favourite, or a if Nepomniachtchi can salvage a draw (good odds).

Well, you can just put your bet on it without watching the game itself and just check the results at the end of the day if you are a very busy person but love to bet on chess game.

Just like in cricket and football there is a time limit in which game must finish, is this also the case in chess or players can take as much time as they want?
If it has no time limit then very few can watch the complete game. May be this was reason why not many are interested in live streaming of this game. I don't know much about these players but I can place bet if I see the odds.
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Honestly, I don't know what I can say in this thread, even though I can play chess, but  I personally don't even follow the existing chess matches, because for me personally, playing chess is more fun than watching other people play, but I'm interested to see the match for the world chess champion between Nepomniachtchi and Carlsen, and I hope someone will share a streaming link to be able to watch the match, because in my place there is not a single local television broadcasting chess matches so far.

Since there is no aspect of life where we don't have gambling that's why we are seeing this thread. Few days back I saw a thread where person was looking for a site that support betting on French elections. AFAIK, chess is very lengthy game and there is no time limit for this game. So you have to spend your complete day in watching and betting on this championship unless there is time limit for the match.

What do you mean no time limit? Yes, this might be a lengthy game, but eventually they have to settle the game, either by a win by Carlsen the favourite, or a if Nepomniachtchi can salvage a draw (good odds).

Well, you can just put your bet on it without watching the game itself and just check the results at the end of the day if you are a very busy person but love to bet on chess game.
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Since there is no aspect of life where we don't have gambling that's why we are seeing this thread. Few days back I saw a thread where person was looking for a site that support betting on French elections. AFAIK, chess is very lengthy game and there is no time limit for this game. So you have to spend your complete day in watching and betting on this championship unless there is time limit for the match.
If users are interested to wage a bet, the punters will be happy to open the odds for the match and i have not watched a world championship chess match live and i never placed a bet on chess but it would be interesting.

Even if you want to wage a bet, it is not necessarily important for you to be glued in the match all the time and i do not have the patience to watch long matches. 
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Honestly, I don't know what I can say in this thread, even though I can play chess, but  I personally don't even follow the existing chess matches, because for me personally, playing chess is more fun than watching other people play, but I'm interested to see the match for the world chess champion between Nepomniachtchi and Carlsen, and I hope someone will share a streaming link to be able to watch the match, because in my place there is not a single local television broadcasting chess matches so far.

Since there is no aspect of life where we don't have gambling that's why we are seeing this thread. Few days back I saw a thread where person was looking for a site that support betting on French elections. AFAIK, chess is very lengthy game and there is no time limit for this game. So you have to spend your complete day in watching and betting on this championship unless there is time limit for the match.
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I have never followed a chess tournament up before I think this would be my first time discussing chess on the forum thanks for the update. Nepo is having a higher odd while Magnus is been favoured to win and since it's gambling both side isn't safe to bet on so I just take the risk and go for Nepo while I wait the outcome
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this is unique, because this is the first time I see a thread about chess matches because I really like this game and I am interested in discussing a lot about this.
On the other hand, regarding this match, if you look at a survey conducted by chess.com some time ago, around 84% support the defending champion and the remaining 16% want a new champion.

To be honest, this is to be expected given the experience of Magnus in the pressure of facing the WC matches. Imagine, you are fighting for the WC title against the arguably the best chess player ever to touch the board. Given also the age of engines and computers, the fact that Magnus can still convert drawish positions to a win speaks a lot about his natural talent and instincts on the game.

Like what I previously mentioned, while Magnus is definitely favored to win, I am sure Nepo has prepared tons of preparation under his sleeve given that he is a very aggressive and unorthodox player which might caught Magnus off-guard (though I highly doubt so).
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this is unique, because this is the first time I see a thread about chess matches because I really like this game and I am interested in discussing a lot about this.
On the other hand, regarding this match, if you look at a survey conducted by chess.com some time ago, around 84% support the defending champion and the remaining 16% want a new champion.
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I am not a pro chess player but I do know how to play a little and I want to see how they play and calculate every move. I guess many people will bet once the match begin and I think most will bet on carlsen. If I have time to bet then I would bet on carlsen too. Given the odds, it's kind of small compare to the challenger.
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first time i see chess on this part of the forum too
would be really interesting to have more discussions about gambling on chess games

are there active platforms to bet on chess games?
where is the best place to watch these?

I think the World Chess Championship deserves to be here - a rather rare event with millions of fans around the world.
And this match is a great betting opportunity - 14 consecutive games between one pair of players, and the fact that we know that in each game the probability of a draw is maximal - all this allows you to develop different strategies.

It is great to see a thread related to chess. I like the game play of Magnus Carlsen and i have viewed some of his rapid chess matches and the only comment i can tell is that he makes careless moves especially in rapid chess. If he is focused and stress free he will win the championship.

Since we have a thread, who do you think is the greatest player of all time. For me it is always Garry Kasparov and Bobby Fischer. For people who really love chess, check out game plays of Mir Sultan Khan who was a legend but not that known to the outside world because he was active during late 1920 who won major championship in England during his short reign and his game plays are extraordinary.

On a side note, if we have more chess lovers, we can conduct an online chess tournament for bitcointalk users.

Each champion was special (and those players who dominated before the official World Cup and the introduction of the World Champion title), but considering the time of dominance and the degree to which the champion was above all other players of his time, Kasparov looks like an undeniable leader.

Can we even watch a full game of chess on TV? I mean I play chess and it can be an entertaining game but it is going to be difficult to fill hours of air time when most of the time nothing happens, the commentators would have to fill the time with endless variations about what each player could do in response to what is on the board and that would be incredibly boring

Yes, but only on specialized channels - classical chess games last many hours on average. I know that most of the chess youtube and twitch channels will broadcast this event and plan to watch these games there.

however, you can check cloudbet with odds of 1.27 vs 3.55, in favour of carlsen



Thanks for the links! These are the odds considering the 14 classic games and tiebreaks. I indicated the odds, excluding tie-breaks, in the first post.

Chess is probably my favorite game,even though I'm not a very good chess player.It's good to see other forum members,who are interested in chess. Grin
I would never place any bets on chess games.This seems too weird to me.Chess is not gambling,even though people are betting money for other players.
Magnus Carlsen is the obvious favorite and I'm 99.9% sure that he will win.There's no point of placing bets for Nepomniachtchi or a draw.

In the previous draw of the chess crown, there was a similar situation, but Magnus was able to win only in tie-breaks.
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Finally someone posted a discussion about the WC match this year!

I am so eager and excited to watch this match especially that Carlsen is a bit motivated to beat Nepo (he mentioned it during his interview with David Howell) as a revenge in their previous match (link in the video below). I am curious as to what openings would Carlsen use in his repertoire given the fact that Nepo is a very aggressive player. Though the match favorite is on Carlsen's favor, I still think that Nepo will make this WC interesting. Hoping for some wins and not just draws!

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC1BAcOzHyY
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There's no need to be upset
first time i see chess on this part of the forum too
would be really interesting to have more discussions about gambling on chess games

are there active platforms to bet on chess games?
where is the best place to watch these?

Yeah I haven't seen chess lines but sheesh I don't know maybe it's just me but there is no way I could watch a full match.  When I bet on something I need to be able to cheer it actively on.  That seems like too much sitting and watching someone think for me to get into betting it.  With that being said I probably will now be laying some down on this one 😅
Can we even watch a full game of chess on TV? I mean I play chess and it can be an entertaining game but it is going to be difficult to fill hours of air time when most of the time nothing happens, the commentators would have to fill the time with endless variations about what each player could do in response to what is on the board and that would be incredibly boring

it would definitely be a bit boring to watch a full normal game on TV but maybe on internet in 2x or a "best moments" video
forgot that real life chess is not like "the queen's gambit" on netflix

really good series by the way...
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I'd always bet for Magnus Carlsen. I'm a fan since I watched his match against Kasparov (which is my idol) because Kasparov is just amazing. Magnus Carlsen is a very talented player who is continue growing even better. I always watch his matches and even videos in his youtube channel which is very entertaining and a lot of knowledge can be acquired while watching.

Betting on Carlsen whether he lose or win will be a win win decision for me.
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These are really good and profitable odds I was planning to place bet on Carlsen but even though he is a defending champion we shouldn't underestimate Nepomniachtchi also I think the odds you gave is wrong. May I ask what bookies offered that odds that's really a good odds to be true.
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Chess is probably my favorite game,even though I'm not a very good chess player.It's good to see other forum members,who are interested in chess. Grin
I would never place any bets on chess games.This seems too weird to me.Chess is not gambling,even though people are betting money for other players.
Magnus Carlsen is the obvious favorite and I'm 99.9% sure that he will win.There's no point of placing bets for Nepomniachtchi or a draw.
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