[CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi - page 7.

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According to some research that I read long time ago chess depends heavily on pattern recognition, for example we use pattern recognition to distinguish one person from another due to their distinctive features, however not everyone is as good as this and there are people that never forget a face while there are others that cannot remember even their own face, so it is likely that the best chess players are great at this and if to this we add their training then this explains why they can become so good at such a young age.

really interesting and makes sense
I find it that memory also plays a role on being good at it
and math/calculations, it's really mathematical too when it comes to memorizing and checking future possibilities of how the game may develop

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Quote from: Mauser on February 23, 2022, 03:34:55 AM

I just read this morning that an Indian 16 year old teenager Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa managed to beat Magnus Carlsen in a Blitz Chess tournament. He is only one of three Indians grandmasters who managed to beat Carlsen. Blitz chess and normal chess games are very different, the players don't have the time at hand to think too deep about moves ahead. It is much easier to make mistakes. In a traditional tournament Carlsen would have probably won. But still, such a big win at such a young age his a pretty big boost for his self esteem. I hope he will keep training and maybe go for a world championship match vs Carlsen at one point. Now I am wondering how this Carlsen loss will impact betting on matches in the future. It is just a matter of time until we have a new world chess champion.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/sport/rameshbabu-praggnanandhaa-magnus-carlsen-chess-spt-intl/index.html

It is not because Carlsen looses one match that we will get a new world champion in chess. He currently only holds the title in normal chess and lost his titles in blitz and rapid chess earlier this year. Even the greatest players can make mistake or have some lapses in concentration causing them to loose matches. It is a very nice win for the Indian teenager but this doesn't really mean a lot right now (in my eyes).

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these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

In his interview to a news paper he said he was completely drained and was in the urge to sleep, but everything happened something as a miracle. With that one of his dream have come to reality. Maybe these kids are born different, but the way he grew up is a like a common Indian citizen. If this is some other game, now he could've been Known to the world. The game got over days back and now only slowly the world is getting to know about the 16 year old kid Praggnanandhaa.

yes, it's amazing

I used more as an expression, I think it's a mix of training but there's probably a genetic component too that makes chess calculation easier

seeing more studies on that would be quite cool too

According to some research that I read long time ago chess depends heavily on pattern recognition, for example we use pattern recognition to distinguish one person from another due to their distinctive features, however not everyone is as good as this and there are people that never forget a face while there are others that cannot remember even their own face, so it is likely that the best chess players are great at this and if to this we add their training then this explains why they can become so good at such a young age.

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So Magnus was able to win the entire Airthings Master Finals 2022 when he managed to beat Ian Nepomnaitchi in the final day of the match.

Surprisingly, Magnus won two (2) games both as white and black. On the first game, Ian terribly blundered/sacrificed his horse which costed him the match. On the second game, however, Magnus was able to produce winning ideas in which Ian failed to spot. A lot of people are saying that Magnus was not in shape in this tournament, but the fact that he won shows his continued dominance throughout.

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The game between Magnus and Nepo in Airthings Masters Finals 2022 was just a privilege to watch!

We get to see an action between the former candidates challenger Nepo and Magnus battling each other in rapid format. Though 4 games ended in a draw, there were missing chances on both players on all of those games. As you can see, Nepo clearly wants to play chess and avoid any classical variations as he is exploring different opening repertoire to his disposal.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on February 23, 2022, 10:26:47 AM

these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

In his interview to a news paper he said he was completely drained and was in the urge to sleep, but everything happened something as a miracle. With that one of his dream have come to reality. Maybe these kids are born different, but the way he grew up is a like a common Indian citizen. If this is some other game, now he could've been Known to the world. The game got over days back and now only slowly the world is getting to know about the 16 year old kid Praggnanandhaa.

yes, it's amazing

I used more as an expression, I think it's a mix of training but there's probably a genetic component too that makes chess calculation easier

seeing more studies on that would be quite cool too

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Quote from: seoincorporation on February 23, 2022, 11:27:32 AM

And I agree with you, Carlsen Magnus is a really impressive chess player, and he proves how good he was when he play vs Kasparov at the age of 13.

Yeah I remember that video from YouTube were you could see the nervous young Carlsen play Kasparow, and after the match you would hear how impressed he was with him. Magnus got a lot of support for his family, they took him out of school for a year and travelled with him through Europe. So he could play many tournaments against a lot of different players. Now with the rise of online chess and blitz chess apps, everybody can play against each other from home. The potential to train against grandmaster from the other side of the earth should help all players. Even Magnus offers now the chance to play Blitz games against him on his own website.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on February 23, 2022, 10:26:47 AM

these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

In his interview to a news paper he said he was completely drained and was in the urge to sleep, but everything happened something as a miracle. With that one of his dream have come to reality. Maybe these kids are born different, but the way he grew up is a like a common Indian citizen. If this is some other game, now he could've been Known to the world. The game got over days back and now only slowly the world is getting to know about the 16 year old kid Praggnanandhaa.

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Quote from: Mauser on February 23, 2022, 03:34:55 AM

I just read this morning that an Indian 16 year old teenager Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa managed to beat Magnus Carlsen in a Blitz Chess tournament.

I read this too and was surprised about it that a Indian teen managed to beat Carlsen in Blitz Chess tournament although just like what you have said it is different with normal chess since it is Blitz still you won't be able to beat Carlsen if you are not that good. I tried that Blitz before and that's true that I always made a mistake and wasn't able to think well because of the time pressure.

Anyway, congratulations to Nepomniachtchi for defeating Carlsen in Blitz Chess!

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on February 23, 2022, 10:26:47 AM

these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

would love to see some data on distribution of grandmasters per age group and as % of total chess players.

You can find that information in the International Chess Federation, there you will find the rating with all the data for each GrandMaster.

https://ratings.fide.com/

And I agree with you, Carlsen Magnus is a really impressive chess player, and he proves how good he was when he play vs Kasparov at the age of 13.

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these kids are probably born different, it's really impressive to see 16 years old people becoming grandmaster at such an young age
kudos to them

would love to see some data on distribution of grandmasters per age group and as % of total chess players.

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Quote from: Mauser on February 23, 2022, 03:34:55 AM

I just read this morning that an Indian 16 year old teenager Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa managed to beat Magnus Carlsen in a Blitz Chess tournament. He is only one of three Indians grandmasters who managed to beat Carlsen. Blitz chess and normal chess games are very different, the players don't have the time at hand to think too deep about moves ahead. It is much easier to make mistakes. In a traditional tournament Carlsen would have probably won. But still, such a big win at such a young age his a pretty big boost for his self esteem. I hope he will keep training and maybe go for a world championship match vs Carlsen at one point. Now I am wondering how this Carlsen loss will impact betting on matches in the future. It is just a matter of time until we have a new world chess champion.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/sport/rameshbabu-praggnanandhaa-magnus-carlsen-chess-spt-intl/index.html

That's actually pretty cool, you've got a bragging rights that you've beat the World Champion. Ramesh will definitely be a big player if he continues and pursues chess and becomes a competitive player, this win easily gave him a spotlight and people are going to expect, now that you mention it, I'd love to see him fight Carlsen in a standard match.

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I just read this morning that an Indian 16 year old teenager Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa managed to beat Magnus Carlsen in a Blitz Chess tournament. He is only one of three Indians grandmasters who managed to beat Carlsen. Blitz chess and normal chess games are very different, the players don't have the time at hand to think too deep about moves ahead. It is much easier to make mistakes. In a traditional tournament Carlsen would have probably won. But still, such a big win at such a young age his a pretty big boost for his self esteem. I hope he will keep training and maybe go for a world championship match vs Carlsen at one point. Now I am wondering how this Carlsen loss will impact betting on matches in the future. It is just a matter of time until we have a new world chess champion.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/22/sport/rameshbabu-praggnanandhaa-magnus-carlsen-chess-spt-intl/index.html

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I'm not sure if a board is needed, seems like there is not enough demand for that, but for new topics should be ok

you are right about the series, after watching it I also became more interested on playing and learning more chess techniques.

Long time ago there was a software called ChessMentor, as its name implied it was not really a software in which you played against the computer like so many other commercial chess software but instead it gave you lessons about how to play chess and quite honestly I found it to be great, I heard that it was eventually integrated into the chess.com website but I do not know if it is free or if you need to pay a subscription, however if it is still available and free you should take a look at it as it was really good.

nice! I think I even heard about ChesMentor before on some youtube channel, maybe
sound cool

I'm not that big into chess, just an occasional player doing it for fun... the AI analysis on lichess are already enough for me
but if it changes in the future and I decide to study it in a deeper way I'll look into it.

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History created by the young 16 year old R Praggnanandhaa defeating the world number one chess player Magnus Carlsen 39 moves on the Airthings Masters online rapid chess tournament. Praggnanandhaa have mentioned “Beating him once is my biggest dream,” and now this have been achieved so earlier. Now he have become the third Indian, after Viswanathan Anand and P Harikrishna to beat Magnus Carlsen. This shows his ability to the world and the emergence of a new champion from India.

In the same event Praggnanandhaa have lost all the previous seven games and for Carlsen it is the first defeat in the Airthings Masters online rapid chess tournament.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on February 13, 2022, 03:01:05 PM

I'm not sure if a board is needed, seems like there is not enough demand for that, but for new topics should be ok

you are right about the series, after watching it I also became more interested on playing and learning more chess techniques.

Long time ago there was a software called ChessMentor, as its name implied it was not really a software in which you played against the computer like so many other commercial chess software but instead it gave you lessons about how to play chess and quite honestly I found it to be great, I heard that it was eventually integrated into the chess.com website but I do not know if it is free or if you need to pay a subscription, however if it is still available and free you should take a look at it as it was really good.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on February 13, 2022, 03:01:05 PM

I'm not sure if a board is needed, seems like there is not enough demand for that, but for new topics should be ok

you are right about the series, after watching it I also became more interested on playing and learning more chess techniques.

Good to learn chess techniques it is always good to have a board and practice the moves of some masters, but for everything to be better understood, it is preferable to learn the basics, perhaps some techniques used by experts, some defenses, with the knights , the exits, with pawns, with knights, what are the vulnerabilities, what is the advantage of going out in the form of an attack or establishing a solid defense, these types of techniques help to better understand, when we start to see it is better to make this start basic than trying to understand what they do in tournaments, because in tournaments plays are made at a very high level and sometimes they are difficult to understand.

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I'm not sure if a board is needed, seems like there is not enough demand for that, but for new topics should be ok

you are right about the series, after watching it I also became more interested on playing and learning more chess techniques.

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Quote from: coinism on February 12, 2022, 03:36:26 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on February 12, 2022, 02:39:41 AM

Someone who's really fond of Chess professional scene is the ideal one to make that general thread for everyone to keep the discussion going. Whether it's the World Championship, there will be a continuous discussion about it. I've started to play Chess again online and that's why that general thread would be helpful for me to dive in to see those grandmasters and professionals that have been in the competition. I have a source to look out time after time but I think it's still good to have a conversation from those who know more.

Not only for Chess for every sports there must a general thread where every event about that sports is discussed. For instance, there is general thread about cricket T20 format. Now everything related to T20 whether its World Cup or some other tournament it's discussed there.
This Chess match between Carlsen and Nepomniachtchi was played back 2 months ago. Still we have an active thread about that match.

I do agree with everything you guys mentioned. With the increasing popularity of Chess compared before, it is starting to evolve from a niche sports to something that is widely recognized. I think this is due to the fact that after the release of Queen's Gambit on Netflix, it sparked the curiosity of many to actually try chess for the first time. While not everyone can be good at chess, it certainly is enjoyable especially when you beat your opponent.

But to be honest, I do think that creating a separate board for Chess would be beneficial in the long-run.

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Quote from: coinism on February 12, 2022, 03:36:26 AM

Quote from: passwordnow on February 12, 2022, 02:39:41 AM

Someone who's really fond of Chess professional scene is the ideal one to make that general thread for everyone to keep the discussion going. Whether it's the World Championship, there will be a continuous discussion about it. I've started to play Chess again online and that's why that general thread would be helpful for me to dive in to see those grandmasters and professionals that have been in the competition. I have a source to look out time after time but I think it's still good to have a conversation from those who know more.

Not only for Chess for every sports there must a general thread where every event about that sports is discussed. For instance, there is general thread about cricket T20 format. Now everything related to T20 whether its World Cup or some other tournament it's discussed there.
This Chess match between Carlsen and Nepomniachtchi was played back 2 months ago.

Yes, it's given that for the other sports, there's a thread but there's no general thread for Chess and it's just this WC that's made last year. I think the interest for Chess is increasing on the forum and whoever is going to maintain the discussion for it

Quote from: coinism on February 12, 2022, 03:36:26 AM

Still we have an active thread about that match.

And that's what everyone is talking about. Having a general thread for Chess related discussion but I think there are only a few bookies that includes it in the book.

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