[CHESS] World Championship 2021: Carlsen Vs. Nepomniachtchi - page 3.

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Quote from: KennyR on May 21, 2022, 10:43:49 PM

Praggnanandhaa defeats World Chess Champion Magnus Carlsen for the second time. Amidst his eleventh grade school exam he have played Chess online and have marked the win. The second win have come within three months of the first win which was a big one. The match was towards draw, but the mistake at the end have costed Magnus Carlsen loss it. After the win Praggnanandhaa mentioned that he isn't happy with his play and he needs to improve himself to be more sharper.

This is not classical chess, but rapid. Losses in rapid (and blitz) chess are common for any chess player. Although of course this is a big milestone for the Indian chess player. It will be interesting to see how he progresses - maybe he is the future champion and not Firuja (who seems to be a bit stuck in talented players and still can't make a qualitative leap)?

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Praggnanandhaa defeats World Chess Champion Magnus Carlsen for the second time. Amidst his eleventh grade school exam he have played Chess online and have marked the win. The second win have come within three months of the first win which was a big one. The match was towards draw, but the mistake at the end have costed Magnus Carlsen loss it. After the win Praggnanandhaa mentioned that he isn't happy with his play and he needs to improve himself to be more sharper.

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Quote from: dbc23 on May 19, 2022, 05:22:52 PM

Screens serve as the major companion for most younger generation. Reason been that most parents don't have time to make their ward appreciate the beauty of board chess game. In the absence of family time this young ones improvise into playing video games and watching YouTube videos. In this time implementing things using a forceful measure might only be an end to a dreadful home. It boils down to parents to create time out of busy schedules to make their wards appreciate board games else it just fades away

Everything that requires artificial efforts to maintain "interest" should die out - why is it needed if it does not interest people on a voluntary basis? But this has nothing to do with chess, if you look at YouTube or twitch, then there are a lot of young streamers who play chess and I strongly doubt that their viewers are old, most likely this is also a young audience.

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Quote from: dbc23 on May 19, 2022, 05:22:52 PM

Screens serve as the major companion for most younger generation. Reason been that most parents don't have time to make their ward appreciate the beauty of board chess game. In the absence of family time this young ones improvise into playing video games and watching YouTube videos. In this time implementing things using a forceful measure might only be an end to a dreadful home. It boils down to parents to create time out of busy schedules to make their wards appreciate board games else it just fades away

Parents have the busy schedule and when they are tired and have a lot to take care. They give the tabs to their kids. In our country - parents prefer their kids not to go out so they turn the TV on and let the kids watch it for hours and hours. Parents are very over protective now a days and they just want their kids to be sitting in front of them, this too is affecting health of the kids as well.

I think this depends on the rules and household set by the parents.

Most of my friends have parents that are lenient in way that they let them hang or do anything to the kids. But there are certain rules to be followed (e.g. curfew by this hour, etc.). Though this may be the case, the wellbeing of these children are not that affected to the point that they become problematic in the future.

Anyway not to deviate from this discussion, Chessable Masters ended with a bang with Magnus securing 8 points, defeating Jordan and and Grandelius in the process. What do you guys think of this tournament? Will Magnus certainly dominate again in this tournament like in all previous tournaments he participated in?

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Quote from: dbc23 on May 19, 2022, 05:22:52 PM

Screens serve as the major companion for most younger generation. Reason been that most parents don't have time to make their ward appreciate the beauty of board chess game. In the absence of family time this young ones improvise into playing video games and watching YouTube videos. In this time implementing things using a forceful measure might only be an end to a dreadful home. It boils down to parents to create time out of busy schedules to make their wards appreciate board games else it just fades away

Parents have the busy schedule and when they are tired and have a lot to take care. They give the tabs to their kids. In our country - parents prefer their kids not to go out so they turn the TV on and let the kids watch it for hours and hours. Parents are very over protective now a days and they just want their kids to be sitting in front of them, this too is affecting health of the kids as well.

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Quote from: Theones on May 19, 2022, 03:19:45 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 19, 2022, 09:26:17 AM

well, everyone has the same 24 hours in a day
limiting screen time for children is a mission for their parents
have you heard that on silicon valley most of the children of these parents that work at social media and tech company can't use screens at all or have very limited access to it?

I wonder how they avoid screens. Especially parent when during pandemic everyone was working from home and screen time increased drastically.
Also I am not sure - what is point of playing chess online - it kills the concept of board game and family time.

Screens serve as the major companion for most younger generation. Reason been that most parents don't have time to make their ward appreciate the beauty of board chess game. In the absence of family time this young ones improvise into playing video games and watching YouTube videos. In this time implementing things using a forceful measure might only be an end to a dreadful home. It boils down to parents to create time out of busy schedules to make their wards appreciate board games else it just fades away

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 19, 2022, 09:26:17 AM

well, everyone has the same 24 hours in a day
limiting screen time for children is a mission for their parents
have you heard that on silicon valley most of the children of these parents that work at social media and tech company can't use screens at all or have very limited access to it?

I wonder how they avoid screens. Especially parent when during pandemic everyone was working from home and screen time increased drastically.
Also I am not sure - what is point of playing chess online - it kills the concept of board game and family time.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on May 13, 2022, 12:21:30 PM

And what games do you think people have time for? Or do you propose not to play anything at all, but only to work?
It's kind of weird to hear that chess is a dying game, because if I'm on the internet chatting with a person from another country/culture and we suddenly decide to have some fun, then chess is more likely to be a common place where we can do it than any other computer game.

Most of kids these days are more interested in playing video games. They have all the focus of Youtube videos and they hardly have any time to play board games.
Although many people are very loud is promoting board games but how many of us actually have time to get rid of screens? Time have changed a lot.

well, everyone has the same 24 hours in a day
limiting screen time for children is a mission for their parents
have you heard that on silicon valley most of the children of these parents that work at social media and tech company can't use screens at all or have very limited access to it?

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Quote from: Boristhecat on May 13, 2022, 12:21:30 PM

And what games do you think people have time for? Or do you propose not to play anything at all, but only to work?
It's kind of weird to hear that chess is a dying game, because if I'm on the internet chatting with a person from another country/culture and we suddenly decide to have some fun, then chess is more likely to be a common place where we can do it than any other computer game.

Most of kids these days are more interested in playing video games. They have all the focus of Youtube videos and they hardly have any time to play board games.
Although many people are very loud is promoting board games but how many of us actually have time to get rid of screens? Time have changed a lot.

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Quote from: KTChampions on May 16, 2022, 02:41:22 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 16, 2022, 02:14:03 PM

this Tik-tok'fication of the culture where attention spans are getting smaller is both a negative point for chess (people can't focus) and a positive one (people who want to run away from it will find it cozy and nice exercise to play chess)

I bet that with computer chess we see way more blitz and fast-chess games than in the past
but this is not bad per se

The main reason why we see the total dominance of blitz in online chess is cheaters. Given the fact that now the simplest program is capable of giving hints stronger than the best human players, it is very easy to cheat. But when you have a minute or two per game, then you obviously won't have time to cheat. Well, and to be honest, blitz is adrenaline, I like to have fun like that sometimes Cheesy

do you know lichess (and probably chess.com too) has an anti-cheat mechanism?
as far as I remember it's coded in python, you can find more information about it on their database.

I agree that blitz is adrenaline, I stopped playing late at night otherwise I can't sleep well Grin

too much dopamine

but I think long games are also possible without cheaters.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 12, 2022, 10:26:07 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 03, 2022, 04:01:38 PM

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on April 25, 2022, 06:12:15 AM

was is always the worst possible outcome.

having discussed all this - and so many bans on Russia already. Do you think world can cut off from Russia?
That is not possible -the are one of the biggest oil producer in the world and banning Russia is banning the oil. this is not going to work? Has EU banned buying oil from Russia as well?

until humans (specially the ones with power) don't realize that we are all dependent on each other we'll remain progressing much slower than we could...
but well, maybe enough of war?

would love to get back to chess on this thread.

including discussing chess strategies and tactics, that would be interesting too

The truth is that if strategies and types of moves were included in the thread, it would be very interesting, because not only would we be aware of a current global situation that burdens us in some way, but apart from the events of chess contests and tournaments, if at any time It goes into more technical matters, the analysis of moves and/or strategy would make the thread much more interesting for me, because I even look for the board that I have to make the moves physically, this is very interesting, besides, I have many years without chess game it would be interesting to play again or practice the possible moves according to a scenario played by experts.

Well, I'm also in favor of changing the title of this topic.
I believe we could improve the quality of this topic sharing videos, moves, tutorials and others relevants things... incredible as it may seem, I didn't know we had a topic focused exclusively on chess (which I found very interesting), because at the moment I'm learning to improve my skills in this "board game"!

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 16, 2022, 02:14:03 PM

this Tik-tok'fication of the culture where attention spans are getting smaller is both a negative point for chess (people can't focus) and a positive one (people who want to run away from it will find it cozy and nice exercise to play chess)

I bet that with computer chess we see way more blitz and fast-chess games than in the past
but this is not bad per se

The main reason why we see the total dominance of blitz in online chess is cheaters. Given the fact that now the simplest program is capable of giving hints stronger than the best human players, it is very easy to cheat. But when you have a minute or two per game, then you obviously won't have time to cheat. Well, and to be honest, blitz is adrenaline, I like to have fun like that sometimes Cheesy

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this Tik-tok'fication of the culture where attention spans are getting smaller is both a negative point for chess (people can't focus) and a positive one (people who want to run away from it will find it cozy and nice exercise to play chess)

I bet that with computer chess we see way more blitz and fast-chess games than in the past
but this is not bad per se

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Quote from: Shamm on May 13, 2022, 09:55:39 AM

Chess is not just very easy to not just you can move and move your army you need to study it, and to play a chess you need more time, because like what I said above chess is the only game that you need to focus on in cause every single move you need to think widely what's the best move to take cause your opponent studying your moves to counter it with a perfect timing. so focus and let you mind think wants the opponent moves then counter It.

And do you think the loss of focus is the main problem we are dealing with.
There are TVs, Computer, mobiles, tabs mostly each members in house have 3/4 screens. This is so much distraction and I have noticed I now forget things very easily even while talking over phone I don't remember what I was talking about. I need focus and my chess game back.

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Quote from: Theones on May 11, 2022, 01:07:40 PM

Quote from: Boristhecat on May 11, 2022, 07:58:44 AM

I would not advise anyone to play with the computer (unless it's a problem solving or tactical assault on chess.com which is very funny and useful for developing tactical thinking) as the computer plays boring (and hard even if you adjust the difficulty level) - it beats everything mood to play. Playing with a person is always more adrenaline and entertainment.

I am not sure it is the right time to learn playing board games. People do not have time to play board games.
THese board games were popular in 90's when friends and cousins used to get together and there was no distraction like mobile phones and TV. Chess is also dying game.

And what games do you think people have time for? Or do you propose not to play anything at all, but only to work?
It's kind of weird to hear that chess is a dying game, because if I'm on the internet chatting with a person from another country/culture and we suddenly decide to have some fun, then chess is more likely to be a common place where we can do it than any other computer game.

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Quote from: Shamm on May 12, 2022, 04:22:31 PM

Chess or board games is good to enhance our skills and thinking cause you need to depend your king all the time and attack your opponent as well. You must secure every move you made to prevent loss.

Second Demotion change the title and make it general for those chess lovers or chess player cause it's better we have a topic like this to being updated in boards game as well. Cause nowadays physical activities such us ball games and boxing is very known and focus.

With the passage of time - games and activities are changing. My nephew was amazed to see cassettes and tape recorded and floppy when I was clearing my attic.
Earlier we used to spend so much time on boards without distraction. Now I can not even concentrate on game for more than 5 mins. I think what I am lacking now is the focus and attention.

Chess is not just very easy to not just you can move and move your army you need to study it, and to play a chess you need more time, because like what I said above chess is the only game that you need to focus on in cause every single move you need to think widely what's the best move to take cause your opponent studying your moves to counter it with a perfect timing. so focus and let you mind think wants the opponent moves then counter It.

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Quote from: Shamm on May 12, 2022, 04:22:31 PM

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Chess or board games is good to enhance our skills and thinking cause you need to depend your king all the time and attack your opponent as well. You must secure every move you made to prevent loss.

Second Demotion change the title and make it general for those chess lovers or chess player cause it's better we have a topic like this to being updated in boards game as well. Cause nowadays physical activities such us ball games and boxing is very known and focus.

Board games are great for making relationships stronger too and have conflict situations in a controlled envinronment
it can teach you a lot about how others think and see the world as well as help you understand yourself better.
it's truly amazing.

regarding changing the title, we'd just need @Boristhecat to agree with it, I think it's probably possible to change it by editing the OP.

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Quote from: Shamm on May 12, 2022, 04:22:31 PM

Chess or board games is good to enhance our skills and thinking cause you need to depend your king all the time and attack your opponent as well. You must secure every move you made to prevent loss.

Second Demotion change the title and make it general for those chess lovers or chess player cause it's better we have a topic like this to being updated in boards game as well. Cause nowadays physical activities such us ball games and boxing is very known and focus.

With the passage of time - games and activities are changing. My nephew was amazed to see cassettes and tape recorded and floppy when I was clearing my attic.
Earlier we used to spend so much time on boards without distraction. Now I can not even concentrate on game for more than 5 mins. I think what I am lacking now is the focus and attention.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 03, 2022, 04:01:38 PM

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until humans (specially the ones with power) don't realize that we are all dependent on each other we'll remain progressing much slower than we could...
but well, maybe enough of war?

would love to get back to chess on this thread.

including discussing chess strategies and tactics, that would be interesting too

The truth is that if strategies and types of moves were included in the thread, it would be very interesting, because not only would we be aware of a current global situation that burdens us in some way, but apart from the events of chess contests and tournaments, if at any time It goes into more technical matters, the analysis of moves and/or strategy would make the thread much more interesting for me, because I even look for the board that I have to make the moves physically, this is very interesting, besides, I have many years without chess game it would be interesting to play again or practice the possible moves according to a scenario played by experts.

well, if you want to have a partner to play now and then I'm playing almost everyday some games on lichess
just taking care to not play it for too long, I could stay playing for hours and as much as I love chess it's not the main thing I want to do with my life.

I agree it'd probably be better to change the title of this topic for something more general about chess since it's the main topic about it on the forum.

Chess or board games is good to enhance our skills and thinking cause you need to depend your king all the time and attack your opponent as well. You must secure every move you made to prevent loss.

Second Demotion change the title and make it general for those chess lovers or chess player cause it's better we have a topic like this to being updated in boards game as well. Cause nowadays physical activities such us ball games and boxing is very known and focus.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 03, 2022, 04:01:38 PM

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until humans (specially the ones with power) don't realize that we are all dependent on each other we'll remain progressing much slower than we could...
but well, maybe enough of war?

would love to get back to chess on this thread.

including discussing chess strategies and tactics, that would be interesting too

The truth is that if strategies and types of moves were included in the thread, it would be very interesting, because not only would we be aware of a current global situation that burdens us in some way, but apart from the events of chess contests and tournaments, if at any time It goes into more technical matters, the analysis of moves and/or strategy would make the thread much more interesting for me, because I even look for the board that I have to make the moves physically, this is very interesting, besides, I have many years without chess game it would be interesting to play again or practice the possible moves according to a scenario played by experts.

well, if you want to have a partner to play now and then I'm playing almost everyday some games on lichess
just taking care to not play it for too long, I could stay playing for hours and as much as I love chess it's not the main thing I want to do with my life.

I agree it'd probably be better to change the title of this topic for something more general about chess since it's the main topic about it on the forum.

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