Someone get lucky AB works for them, but for 90% it not works.
Where did you get "90%" figure?
Why do you think people have to support you when you come up with a lie and start demanding things without a single "please" or "thankyou"?
Topic: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux) - page 659. (Read 6590565 times)
August 18, 2017, 09:09:42 PM
Someone get lucky AB works for them, but for 90% it not works.
Where did you get "90%" figure?
Why do you think people have to support you when you come up with a lie and start demanding things without a single "please" or "thankyou"?
August 18, 2017, 09:06:42 PM
Just Installed Radeon Crimson Relive Beta for Blockchain 17.30.1029 Driver on my Biostar TB-350 BTC with Radeon R9 Furys and i am running a consistent .7 MH/s faster per card on Claymore's v9.8!
August 18, 2017, 08:58:12 PM
I use AB beta 16 and can reduce the voltage to: 980, 93x, 930, 880, 880, 880, after some dozen times reboot. There is a gap between the driver and AB, => the undervolt behavior is unpredictable on some cards. But once you accept that you cannot do anymore better, that means you will not change anything more,
the setting is unchanged. And my 470 rig continue to run very stable last night.
The design of AB which only allows +/- voltage is idiot. We need number like Claymore.
the setting is unchanged. And my 470 rig continue to run very stable last night.
The design of AB which only allows +/- voltage is idiot. We need number like Claymore.
I have 6 xfx 470 4G, was running 158.
I try the beta one, and my experience is:
I modded the cards, set the gpu voltage to static 930 all stages, but when running Claymore, the voltage up to ~1080. I could not understand why.
+ Claymore cannot control voltage and frequency of both gpu and memory.
+ Claymore 9.7 can run 28 each card, resulting 168 MHz in total, can not control fan + temp
+ Claymore 9.8 can also run 28 each. It can control fan + temp
I try AB beta, it helped to to reduce 3 first cards to ~980 mV, and 3 remaining to ~880 mV. I could not understand why there is a difference between 2 card groups, because physically all 6 cards are the same: same version, same bios. All cards show -96 mV in AB.
+ I tried many way but cannot reduce the first 3 cards to 880 mV.
+ I could not also reset all cards to 1080 to try again.
Removing & reinstalling everything (driver, AB) does not change the situation: 1080 mv then down to 980 for the 3 first cards, to 880 for the remaining.
So now I run all cards consistently, but 3 with 980mV, 3 with 880 mv. Very stable,
but not happy because I want to reduce all cards to 880, or keep 930 mV untouch in the Bios setting.
Anyone has any idea?
I try the beta one, and my experience is:
I modded the cards, set the gpu voltage to static 930 all stages, but when running Claymore, the voltage up to ~1080. I could not understand why.
+ Claymore cannot control voltage and frequency of both gpu and memory.
+ Claymore 9.7 can run 28 each card, resulting 168 MHz in total, can not control fan + temp
+ Claymore 9.8 can also run 28 each. It can control fan + temp
I try AB beta, it helped to to reduce 3 first cards to ~980 mV, and 3 remaining to ~880 mV. I could not understand why there is a difference between 2 card groups, because physically all 6 cards are the same: same version, same bios. All cards show -96 mV in AB.
+ I tried many way but cannot reduce the first 3 cards to 880 mV.
+ I could not also reset all cards to 1080 to try again.
Removing & reinstalling everything (driver, AB) does not change the situation: 1080 mv then down to 980 for the 3 first cards, to 880 for the remaining.
So now I run all cards consistently, but 3 with 980mV, 3 with 880 mv. Very stable,
but not happy because I want to reduce all cards to 880, or keep 930 mV untouch in the Bios setting.Anyone has any idea?
August 18, 2017, 08:49:42 PM
@Claymore
Can we expect the next update to fix the voltage control from your miner with the latest amd driver/dag fix? I guess like quite a few farmers, we'd rather manage everything from a single program rather than use AB or remod all the bios' again with fixed voltages
Thanks!
Can we expect the next update to fix the voltage control from your miner with the latest amd driver/dag fix? I guess like quite a few farmers, we'd rather manage everything from a single program rather than use AB or remod all the bios' again with fixed voltages
Thanks!
Have you tried latest AB with latest AMD drivers for blockchain? It does not work for me (I don't see any changes in power consumption when I change voltage in AB), at least in Win10+RX580. So the problem is not in my miner only, it looks like another ADL issue:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20538901
I've contacted AMD and we will try to fix it.
I know this is being a dick, but I just *have* to:
Linux user; voltage control not affected (NSFW): https://i.imgur.com/1UEGeRz.jpg
August 18, 2017, 06:48:23 PM
Downvolt is not working. AB or Wattool or Overdirve. It resets in short period of time, or crash rig.
Three ways.
1.AB must be fixed.
2.Drivers must be fixed.
3.Claymor must be fixed.
Someone get lucky AB works for them, but for 90% it not works.
Also i can do downvolt directly in bios - but if i want to change coin and algo - i need change bios again ! Also if i have 100 rigs i will spend a LOT of time.
So problem of DAG is "solved", but now huge problem is power consumption.
2Claymore - is there possible that you will made update of miner, and it will have working downvolt ?
Three ways.
1.AB must be fixed.
2.Drivers must be fixed.
3.Claymor must be fixed.
Someone get lucky AB works for them, but for 90% it not works.
Also i can do downvolt directly in bios - but if i want to change coin and algo - i need change bios again ! Also if i have 100 rigs i will spend a LOT of time.
So problem of DAG is "solved", but now huge problem is power consumption.
2Claymore - is there possible that you will made update of miner, and it will have working downvolt ?
August 18, 2017, 06:39:05 PM
For most users with huge consumption increase:
It's because undervolting isn't working for you - You need to set up all in BIOS, find another tool that works or wait for news.
For those with drops to half performance and wierd clocks, it's because mem clock drops from 2xxx to 1000 or core clock drops to 300-900, it's due to high consumption - It's because undervolting isn't working for you - You need to set up on BIOS, find another tool that works or wait for news.
Some cards works with Afterburner Beta 15/16 / Wattool and Claymore (clocks) (especially 4xx) , some don't (mostly 580).
The fix isn't a driver side OC to compensate. If will try ubiq (no dag problem) and ETC (worse than ETH) the hashrate will be the same, the fix is real. Yet some people may experience some consumption increase (not huge - 5%, 10%) or even consumption drop.
It's because undervolting isn't working for you - You need to set up all in BIOS, find another tool that works or wait for news.
For those with drops to half performance and wierd clocks, it's because mem clock drops from 2xxx to 1000 or core clock drops to 300-900, it's due to high consumption - It's because undervolting isn't working for you - You need to set up on BIOS, find another tool that works or wait for news.
Some cards works with Afterburner Beta 15/16 / Wattool and Claymore (clocks) (especially 4xx) , some don't (mostly 580).
The fix isn't a driver side OC to compensate. If will try ubiq (no dag problem) and ETC (worse than ETH) the hashrate will be the same, the fix is real. Yet some people may experience some consumption increase (not huge - 5%, 10%) or even consumption drop.
Facing exactly the same issue with my machines equipped with RX 580. Is there any fix for this problem?
August 18, 2017, 05:44:21 PM
Anyone know any tips. When you get timeout error. Minner connects to stratum. Then just times out and will not start minning. Can add screen shoot later. Been trying to get this minner to work for a week now with ubiq pool. I am so close lol. Sorry i am pretty new. I have used other miners. This one just does not seen to like me. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance
August 18, 2017, 05:37:46 PM
I have a problem. If I install any driver higher than 16.11 and start msi my hashrate is always 4 mhs on all cards. I know this is stuck in low power stat at 300/300. I can set all options in the .bat and they work fine on higher drivers. I do have setx's set in my bat.I am also using 9.8 but every version gives the same result. Msi running makes all card stay at 4mhs. I tried changing options in msi. Including kernal/user mode, voltage enable/disable,disable dsp,extend overclocking ect. Any idea's?
I was getting windows 10 error that graphic process was being limited. I google that and changed regit to have tdrdelay of 8. That did not fix it either. I do have 32 gb of virtual memory set.
I was getting windows 10 error that graphic process was being limited. I google that and changed regit to have tdrdelay of 8. That did not fix it either. I do have 32 gb of virtual memory set.
Hey I had the exact same issue with my rx470. After 10 hours of trying I finally found out what was wrong. The problem is with AfterBurner - you need to uninstall it before replacing old drivers with new ones.
So the correct procedure is:
1. Uninstall MSI Afterburner
2. Uninstall drivers with DDU in safe mode
3. Install the freshly-downloaded driver from setup
4. Before restart install and run the atikmdag patcher
5. Install Beta MSI Afterburner (I installed latest 4.4.0 beta16)
6. Restart and tweak your rig
And you should be ready to mine at full speed again
Personaly for me the difference is from 131 Mh/s to 138 Mh/s with power use rising from 400w to 460w.
Or you just hit the reset button on each GPU and input your OC settings.
August 18, 2017, 05:13:12 PM
sorry newbie here 
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
That card predates even bitcoin...your best bet is if some computer museum is looking for it
Funny thing is that it can still (theoretically) mine bitcoin, but you'd have to wait 75 thousand years to mine 1BTC
not planning to mining btc, just wanna mining new altcoin which still has low diff but if possible to mining with it.
sorry for bad english
A GT 9800+ CAN MINE SCRIPT AT 14kh/s--
It was the top of the line in that era of GPUs, and had 512MB (not even 1GB) of memory. That hash rate is insufficient to earn 1 penny a day, would cost more in electricity than it would earn, and a cell phone processor could out-perform it today.
The code in today's alt-coin algorithms can not be processed by that GPU. Dagger-Hashimoto requires more memory than the 9200m GPU likely has. Mining on a laptop generates dangerous levels of heat and can damage the laptop. For that matter, cell phone mining apps can kill the cell phone.
CudaMiner could possibly run on that GPU. It would be ok for a 5 minute test, but futile to try and earn digital coinage. CudaMiner is obsolete, it was written by CBuchner, who has retired from the crypto world. If you pay the postage, I will ship you my PNY GT 9800+ for free. It runs CudaMiner. In comparison a GTX 550ti will get about 90kh/s script with CudaMiner. Neither can run the latest versions of CCmiiner.
I earned my first LiteCoin mining script with the GTX 550ti. It took several weeks in the summer of 2014. --scryptr
thanks for you information dude
but are you seriuos bout PNY GT 9800+ for free and i just pay for postage?
i don't have pc, i just have an old this notebook.
sorry for bad english
NO MORE USE FOR THE GT 9800+ --
It takes up space. I did experiment with it in 2014, and if you have a laptop PCIe-card to PCIe 1X slot adapter, you could possibly drive it with the laptop. I was able to use a PCIe slot-multiplier with both the GTX 550ti and the GT 9800+ rigged outside the computer. But it still would not make financial sense. It would cost more in electricity than it could earn in crypto-coins.
--scryptr
so it is better to forget mining with notebook right?
thank you
August 18, 2017, 05:06:39 PM
sorry newbie here
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
That card predates even bitcoin...your best bet is if some computer museum is looking for it
Funny thing is that it can still (theoretically) mine bitcoin, but you'd have to wait 75 thousand years to mine 1BTC
not planning to mining btc, just wanna mining new altcoin which still has low diff but if possible to mining with it.
sorry for bad english
A GT 9800+ CAN MINE SCRIPT AT 14kh/s--
It was the top of the line in that era of GPUs, and had 512MB (not even 1GB) of memory. That hash rate is insufficient to earn 1 penny a day, would cost more in electricity than it would earn, and a cell phone processor could out-perform it today.
The code in today's alt-coin algorithms can not be processed by that GPU. Dagger-Hashimoto requires more memory than the 9200m GPU likely has. Mining on a laptop generates dangerous levels of heat and can damage the laptop. For that matter, cell phone mining apps can kill the cell phone.
CudaMiner could possibly run on that GPU. It would be ok for a 5 minute test, but futile to try and earn digital coinage. CudaMiner is obsolete, it was written by CBuchner, who has retired from the crypto world. If you pay the postage, I will ship you my PNY GT 9800+ for free. It runs CudaMiner. In comparison a GTX 550ti will get about 90kh/s script with CudaMiner. Neither can run the latest versions of CCmiiner.
I earned my first LiteCoin mining script with the GTX 550ti. It took several weeks in the summer of 2014. --scryptr
thanks for you information dude
but are you seriuos bout PNY GT 9800+ for free and i just pay for postage?
i don't have pc, i just have an old this notebook.
sorry for bad english
NO MORE USE FOR THE GT 9800+ --
It takes up space. I did experiment with it in 2014, and if you have a laptop PCIe-card to PCIe 1X slot adapter, you could possibly drive it with the laptop. I was able to use a PCIe slot-multiplier with both the GTX 550ti and the GT 9800+ rigged outside the computer. But it still would not make financial sense. It would cost more in electricity than it could earn in crypto-coins.
--scryptr
August 18, 2017, 04:55:39 PM
sorry newbie here
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
That card predates even bitcoin...your best bet is if some computer museum is looking for it
Funny thing is that it can still (theoretically) mine bitcoin, but you'd have to wait 75 thousand years to mine 1BTC
not planning to mining btc, just wanna mining new altcoin which still has low diff but if possible to mining with it.
sorry for bad english
A GT 9800+ CAN MINE SCRIPT AT 14kh/s--
It was the top of the line in that era of GPUs, and had 512MB (not even 1GB) of memory. That hash rate is insufficient to earn 1 penny a day, would cost more in electricity than it would earn, and a cell phone processor could out-perform it today.
The code in today's alt-coin algorithms can not be processed by that GPU. Dagger-Hashimoto requires more memory than the 9200m GPU likely has. Mining on a laptop generates dangerous levels of heat and can damage the laptop. For that matter, cell phone mining apps can kill the cell phone.
CudaMiner could possibly run on that GPU. It would be ok for a 5 minute test, but futile to try and earn digital coinage. CudaMiner is obsolete, it was written by CBuchner, who has retired from the crypto world. If you pay the postage, I will ship you my PNY GT 9800+ for free. It runs CudaMiner. In comparison a GTX 550ti will get about 90kh/s script with CudaMiner. Neither can run the latest versions of CCmiiner.
I earned my first LiteCoin mining script with the GTX 550ti. It took several weeks in the summer of 2014. --scryptr
thanks for you information dude
but are you seriuos bout PNY GT 9800+ for free and i just pay for postage?
i don't have pc, i just have an old this notebook.
sorry for bad english
August 18, 2017, 04:39:12 PM
sorry newbie here
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
That card predates even bitcoin...your best bet is if some computer museum is looking for it
Funny thing is that it can still (theoretically) mine bitcoin, but you'd have to wait 75 thousand years to mine 1BTC
not planning to mining btc, just wanna mining new altcoin which still has low diff but if possible to mining with it.
sorry for bad english
A GT 9800+ CAN MINE SCRIPT AT 14kh/s--
It was the top of the line in that era of GPUs, and had 512MB (not even 1GB) of memory. That hash rate is insufficient to earn 1 penny a day, would cost more in electricity than it would earn, and a cell phone processor could out-perform it today.
The code in today's alt-coin algorithms can not be processed by that GPU. Dagger-Hashimoto requires more memory than the 9200m GPU likely has. Mining on a laptop generates dangerous levels of heat and can damage the laptop. For that matter, cell phone mining apps can kill the cell phone.
CudaMiner could possibly run on that GPU. It would be ok for a 5 minute test, but futile to try and earn digital coinage. CudaMiner is obsolete, it was written by CBuchner, who has retired from the crypto world. If you pay the postage, I will ship you my PNY GT 9800+ for free. It runs CudaMiner. In comparison a GTX 550ti will get about 90kh/s script with CudaMiner. Neither can run the latest versions of CCmiiner.
I earned my first LiteCoin mining script with the GTX 550ti. It took several weeks in the summer of 2014. --scryptr
August 18, 2017, 03:27:21 PM
OK, after some tuning I can confirm below setup is working fine for me with stable 30.4MH/s since 24H:
- clean and fresh Windows 10x64 Home installation + all updates
- latest AMD beta drivers
- AB 4.4.0 beta 16 with applied "voltage control" fix and this one
- no atikmdag-patcher applied
- 4x Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 8GB (11265-01-20G, HYNIX memory) with modded BIOS
- latest Claymore 9.8 with no overclocking/undervolting in BAT file
mv: 970
Power limit: +0
GPU core: 1250
GPU mem: 2150
Fan: 50%
Power from wall: 787W
- clean and fresh Windows 10x64 Home installation + all updates
- latest AMD beta drivers
- AB 4.4.0 beta 16 with applied "voltage control" fix and this one
- no atikmdag-patcher applied
- 4x Sapphire Nitro+ RX580 8GB (11265-01-20G, HYNIX memory) with modded BIOS
- latest Claymore 9.8 with no overclocking/undervolting in BAT file
mv: 970
Power limit: +0
GPU core: 1250
GPU mem: 2150
Fan: 50%
Power from wall: 787W
I can confirm this works, but AB seems to be unable to set core voltage or memory voltage lower than 920mv and 950mv respectfully. Therefore, it is up to you and you power cost to decide whether the higher power consumption is worth it. I decided to rollback to previous drivers and wait for a proper fix
August 18, 2017, 02:37:42 PM
sorry newbie here
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
That card predates even bitcoin...your best bet is if some computer museum is looking for it
Funny thing is that it can still (theoretically) mine bitcoin, but you'd have to wait 75 thousand years to mine 1BTC
not planning to mining btc, just wanna mining new altcoin which still has low diff but if possible to mining with it.
sorry for bad english
August 18, 2017, 02:25:47 PM
@Claymore
Can we expect the next update to fix the voltage control from your miner with the latest amd driver/dag fix? I guess like quite a few farmers, we'd rather manage everything from a single program rather than use AB or remod all the bios' again with fixed voltages
Thanks!
Can we expect the next update to fix the voltage control from your miner with the latest amd driver/dag fix? I guess like quite a few farmers, we'd rather manage everything from a single program rather than use AB or remod all the bios' again with fixed voltages
Thanks!
Have you tried latest AB with latest AMD drivers for blockchain? It does not work for me (I don't see any changes in power consumption when I change voltage in AB), at least in Win10+RX580. So the problem is not in my miner only, it looks like another ADL issue:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20538901
I've contacted AMD and we will try to fix it.
Well it seems you can undervolt "easily" with the RX4xx series since you can still use WattTool so that's not too much of a hassle. I just have an ini file for each card, launch WattTool at startup then your miner a few seconds later and it's super stable with the dag fix.
But since WattTool doesn't work with the RX5xx series and I find that working with AB or Trixx is a real pain in the ass selecting each GPU and doing the undervolt. When you have 20+ rigs it becomes quite a big task.
Intersting read in your post about ADL. I'm really not a developper so I can't imagine all the work that it must be. Anyway, keep up the good work! I guess I'll wait for this to get fixed eventually.
Cheers.
August 18, 2017, 02:21:34 PM
sorry newbie here
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
That card predates even bitcoin...your best bet is if some computer museum is looking for it
Funny thing is that it can still (theoretically) mine bitcoin, but you'd have to wait 75 thousand years to mine 1BTC
August 18, 2017, 02:18:39 PM
sorry newbie here
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
i have a old notebook, it has gpu geforce 9200m gs. can i mining some coin using claymore with this thing?
sorry for bad english
August 18, 2017, 02:12:57 PM
never had such issue with MSI afterburner at the rig with 6x1070. Ir runs just fine.
August 18, 2017, 01:53:34 PM
I built 6 x Gtx 1060 rig today, and I had friends help me and it's running fine now.
After about 40 minutes MSI Afterburner freezes and GPU1 says it has zero power. But when I refresh my miner status, it keeps updating.
This lag/freeze thing has been happening since I installed windows, and I'm sure it's not the power supply. Any thoughts??
After about 40 minutes MSI Afterburner freezes and GPU1 says it has zero power. But when I refresh my miner status, it keeps updating.
This lag/freeze thing has been happening since I installed windows, and I'm sure it's not the power supply. Any thoughts??
It's afterburner issue. And all third party oc softwares, btw
August 18, 2017, 01:41:53 PM
Can i know how many GPUs and what GPUs do you have?
Also, what watt PSU are you using right now?
I'm running at around 1000watt on a 1050watt PSU.
Not sure is this the reason why it has problem detecting my GPU whenever the system restarts.
Or its just purely driver issue.
that rig has 4 1080Ti with 2 x 850 Watts PS but I had no problem with any of my Nvidia cards/rigs (some of them are alone in a PC) with the previous drivers anyway.
1000 watts on a good 1050 watts shouldnt be a problem if you are sure it always stays below 1000 watts. Is this a 80 Gold or 80 Platinum power supply ?
Yes it hovers around 990 - 1005 watt.
Its 1050 watt supersonic 80 Platinum PSU.
i personally think that it shouldn't be Power issue as i tried to run ethereum only mining with watt power around 875watt.
The undetectable gpu issue is still there when my system reboot itself due to errors.
remove one card and see how it goes then. I have a rig that pull 790-810 watts on a 850 watts (Gold) PS and it runs just fine.
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