Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux) - page 676.

fittsy

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Quote from: Trimegistus on August 14, 2017, 02:27:13 AM

I know what the ice age mechanics is and why it was created. I was referring to the complete uncertainty about the transition to PoS. ETH mining won't last for long and there is no clear timeline for the transition to occur.

Let's not forget that the whole roadmap to Casper, including the ice age bomb, was devised when ETH was trading round the $7–$8 dollar mark. The huge price rise and the tremendous expansion of the Ethereum Alliance might have changed the game completely.

@trimegistus I know you're a senior member but you may have missed the latest news. I'll post here for you and others. I don't mean any disrespect to Trim and I'm not even sure of the validity of the info I'm posting. Maybe we can get confirmation from a second source?

Casper is going to be delayed again. One of the ETH devs current estimate is end of 2018.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/6t56a0/important_information_from_todays_ethereum_dev/

The Difficulty bomb will be pushed back as well because of the Casper delays. (16-17 months delay)

ETH rewards will be decreased to curb inflation...

Claymore

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Quote from: qqqq on August 14, 2017, 10:19:44 AM

Claymore, what do you think about this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ethash-dag-epoch-rx470480570580-fix-2068446 ? Is it ok for the security ?

I did not check it, but probably that guy just published closed beta drivers, so probably it's ok for the security.

z0n0

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Don't know why, but I expected WAY higher hash rate and also more FPS at gaming.
The hype about Vega was absurde, it cannot even come close to 1080 (gaming).

qqqq

legendary

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Claymore, what do you think about this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ethash-dag-epoch-rx470480570580-fix-2068446 ? Is it ok for the security ?

cdrx

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I am using latest official driver and have issues undervolting and overclocking my gigabyte rx 580 8 gb hynix, bios modded. Sometimes OC with Trixx, wattman and AB works, but with crash or freeze.

Do I need to use 15.12 - is still recommended ? Any other recommended version, where OC works ? I need to undervolt, is uses too much. Claymore config OC settings are not stable as well.

qqqq

legendary

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Quote from: Claymore on August 14, 2017, 10:04:34 AM

Quote from: qqqq on August 14, 2017, 09:36:17 AM

Quote from: Claymore on August 14, 2017, 04:40:26 AM

Also I think ccminer will not show the best share until you find at least one share, if so, in solo mining it will not show the info you want too.

Actually it shows, even if it not equally or below net diff. And if your best share above net diff or equally it's became A:1 (accepted) sometimes is not (orphan and etc)

Quick checking ccminer sources shows that GPU does not return the lowest hash value for nonces that were checked, so miner cannot show "best share" until at least one share is found. For solo mining it means that you won't see "best share" until you find a share that can solve the block, which may take a very long time.
Anyway, I will not argue, may be ccminer is better for solo mining, or for any kind of mining. However, I'm not going to change GPU kernels to get additional data about hashes that were checked because I still think it is useless work.

When i tried recent solo mine with BFL 30 GH\s just for fun and check if it's still available with cgminer\bfgminer support so it shows best share for both miners (cgminer real and bfgminer\65536) even without any accepted shares (i mean for solo) as i remember.

Bojcha

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Someone with RX VEGA might want to try..
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/amd-radeon-vega-17-8-1-beta-6-driver-download.html

Claymore

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Quote from: qqqq on August 14, 2017, 09:36:17 AM

Quote from: Claymore on August 14, 2017, 04:40:26 AM

Also I think ccminer will not show the best share until you find at least one share, if so, in solo mining it will not show the info you want too.

Actually it shows, even if it not equally or below net diff. And if your best share above net diff or equally it's became A:1 (accepted) sometimes is not (orphan and etc)

Quick checking ccminer sources shows that GPU does not return the lowest hash value for nonces that were checked, so miner cannot show "best share" until at least one share is found. For solo mining it means that you won't see "best share" until you find a share that can solve the block, which may take a very long time.
Anyway, I will not argue, may be ccminer is better for solo mining, or for any kind of mining. However, I'm not going to change GPU kernels to get additional data about hashes that were checked because I still think it is useless work.

TechPark

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RX Vega 56 ETH mining speed 32Mhs. https://youtu.be/MllZAaXzdYs

qqqq

legendary

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Quote from: Claymore on August 14, 2017, 04:40:26 AM

Also I think ccminer will not show the best share until you find at least one share, if so, in solo mining it will not show the info you want too.

Actually it shows, even if it not equally or below net diff. And if your best share above net diff or equally it's became A:1 (accepted) sometimes is not (orphan and etc)

wOvAN

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Quote from: justinjja on August 14, 2017, 08:23:07 AM

Real RX Vega reviews are showing up, After overclocking, they get about 40mh/s with reviewer drivers.

Also quite high power usage.

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-amd-radeon-rx-vega-56-and-vega-64-review/

Good news.

sir4o

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Quote from: Ursul0 on August 13, 2017, 03:08:55 PM

Quote from: fittsy on August 12, 2017, 03:37:47 PM

Quote from: boregepco on August 11, 2017, 06:40:54 AM

Quote from: JustCauseBIH on August 11, 2017, 04:30:14 AM

Sell your rig, mining is not for you.

You are very helpful. Thank you! Keep doing this!
After this:
****TRASHY HACKER LINK REMOVED****
I am ok again.

You're a newbie with 2 posts recommending a post from a newbie with 13 posts who is offering a hacked version of AMD drivers.

RISK level 1000%

Don't download software from unknown sources. Don't listen to newbies with only a few posts. Chances are you are going to download a trojan or virus.

There's nothing wrong with the DAG patch that he was referring to. What's your problem? heard word "hacker" too many times for your own good?

I wouldn't bet on this.. or at least until after the official driver with DAG fix is released. If you install a kernel mode driver, you wouldn't know if it's a 0 day vuln until it's activated. And if I was the creator, I would wait activating it when it will be pointless for people to install it any more.

kinzey

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Blockchain with solar energy

nice info... thank you! Wink

justinjja

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Real RX Vega reviews are showing up, After overclocking, they get about 40mh/s with reviewer drivers.

Also quite high power usage.

http://www.pcgamer.com/the-amd-radeon-rx-vega-56-and-vega-64-review/

TechPark

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Quote from: NoOneLt on August 14, 2017, 05:34:08 AM

Quote from: TechPark on August 14, 2017, 03:56:17 AM

Instead of ping you should check whether the port is open on certain IP, probably by using a telnet based services.

It losts connction from time to time, most of the time it is connected. If you are so smart then give advice on problem, if not, just walk by, you haven't been asked for useless "iam so smart and funny" comment ...

You had questions "what else can I check?" and "any idea?".
You had been given explanations, ideas and advise what else you should check.
You did not ask to fix a problem for you!!!
You did not thank, more over you trolled.
Not gonna help you further and will ignore all your future posts.
That is your choice.

NoOneLt

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Quote from: TechPark on August 14, 2017, 03:56:17 AM

Instead of ping you should check whether the port is open on certain IP, probably by using a telnet based services.

It losts connction from time to time, most of the time it is connected. If you are so smart then give advice on problem, if not, just walk by, you haven't been asked for useless "iam so smart and funny" comment ...

Claymore

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Quote from: notbatman on August 13, 2017, 05:57:21 PM

I'm simply asking for the same information cgminer provides, you could can just cut & paste -ck's code to save time. The difficulty of the shares found and the difficulty of best share found is absolutely invaluable information when mining.
edit:
Let me give you an example, I mine RANDOM_DAGGER_COIN on a pool for 24 hours. The pool says I found 0 blocks but the miner says my best share just fell short (300G but I needed 305G). I now know that I'll be able solo mine a block within 24 hours if the network hashrate drops just a bit.
The thing is you see blocks come in groups though, not only will I mine at least 2 blocks in 48 hours (with slightly lower network hashrate) I'll mine 3 then I'll jump back on the pool. If the blocks didn't come in groups then they would be evenly spaced out at predictable intervals i.e. not random.

Ok I understand your point of view. Instead of correct calculations based on target diff and miner speed, you take best share for 24 hours and think that you can reach this target for next 24 hours. It's wrong in general, but I won't argue, your approach can work with some probability. I can add the info you need, but I will have to change all GPU kernels because they don't return share diff, so I won't do it just for you, sorry. Also I think ccminer will not show the best share until you find at least one share, if so, in solo mining it will not show the info you want too. I can make GPU compare diffs of all hashes to find the best and return best value even if this value is less than share target, but I will not do it because it's additional and useless work for GPU.

TechPark

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Quote from: NoOneLt on August 14, 2017, 03:32:24 AM

To Claymore, any ideas why Manager losts connection to on of rigs from tim to time? I tried to monitor rig, and it is alive, and ping comes trough, what else can be chcked?

Thank you!

ETHman cannot not be tested by ping, as these 2 services are using different protocols.
It is like checking whether you have a petrol in your car by putting a probe into windscreen water tank.
If you see the water, then the only thing you can be sure of is that your you still have a car Wink

Instead of ping you should check whether the port is open on certain IP, probably by using a telnet based services.

NoOneLt

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To Claymore, any ideas why Manager losts connection to on of rigs from tim to time? I tried to monitor rig, and it is alive, and ping comes trough, what else can be chcked?

Thank you!

fredeq

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Quote from: TechPark on August 13, 2017, 06:52:08 PM

The difficulty will NOT go down as there is a "ice-age difficulty bomb" in place - "it's programmed to raise difficulty exponentially".
Difficulty does not only depend on the hashing power but also on the number of blocks mined and times passed since the last update.
Difficulty bomb graph: https://etherchain.org/charts/difficultyBomb
Difficulty calculation: https://gist.github.com/CJentzsch/c78768f9837afb8eef74

To anyone interested about bombs and ETH PoS, we lately got nice update from the devs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining/comments/6t56a0/important_information_from_todays_ethereum_dev/

Projected block_times, if the future bomb is not diffused in time:

Quote

August 25th - 25 seconds
September 24th - 32 seconds
October 31st - 41 seconds

As you can see, the block times are increasing exponentially and by October 31st, it would take 41 secs to mine 1 block of 5 ETH, meaning we would earn approx half of what we do today. (Not taking into consideration any new miners coming on board which also drives difficulty up).

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