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hero member
Activity: 824
Merit: 501
Osmservices keeps being hacked away from me :-( th
September 30, 2011, 03:14:43 AM
Any movement on block 125?? Its still stuck at 120 confirms?
hero member
Activity: 527
Merit: 500
September 22, 2011, 06:20:43 PM
Wuked, do you plan to add merged mining for namecoins to your pool?
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1032
September 06, 2011, 08:36:48 PM
Is the current block time normal for this pool? It seems like a like a long time at 1 days 19:19:51.

It's normal, in fact that round was done an hour after your post, and then another block was found in ten hours.
The pool hashrate is lower than it was a few weeks ago, currently 84 Ghash/s. You get payouts less often, but they are worth more.

Let's calculate the expected round time:

Pool hashes per second: 84,000,000,000
Pool hashes per hour: 302,400,000,000,000
Bitcoin average hashes per block solve: 7,635,483,000,000,000 (at current difficulty)
= Average pool round: 25.25 hours


So blocks solves (and their payouts) average once a day at the current total hashrate. With variance, this means you might get some rounds 1/3 this length, and some 3x this length.

Here's a link to the statistics page mentioned above.
You can compare the number of shares per round to the current difficulty, 1777774. It's been a while since a really long round.

(From the hashrate graph, it also looks like some dumb pool hoppers are still jumping on at the start of new rounds, although with the PPLNS payout method they don't earn more for their work than anyone else. You also don't need to quit mining just because a round is longer than expected; if you do, you will miss out on maximum earnings when a block is found.)
sr. member
Activity: 363
Merit: 250
September 06, 2011, 02:19:39 AM
Is the current block time normal for this pool? It seems like a like a long time at 1 days 19:19:51.
Look at the "Statistics" page. There you can see the "Duration".

Thanks I see some long ones there.
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 10
September 06, 2011, 02:15:34 AM
Is the current block time normal for this pool? It seems like a like a long time at 1 days 19:19:51.
Look at the "Statistics" page. There you can see the "Duration".
sr. member
Activity: 363
Merit: 250
September 06, 2011, 02:05:07 AM
Is the current block time normal for this pool? It seems like a like a long time at 1 days 19:19:51.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1032
August 28, 2011, 04:13:51 PM
81   23 Aug - 15:09:52    11964670
82   23 Aug - 16:45:13    95787
83   25 Aug - 09:00:48    2682514
84   25 Aug - 14:03:11    345797
85   25 Aug - 17:29:06    249814
86   27 Aug - 06:11:49    2517946
87   27 Aug - 15:21:45    617078
88   28 Aug - 02:51:13    825202


Average Round ( last 8 ): 2412351 shares
Average Round ( last 7 ): 1047734 (difficulty 1805700)

Some good block solving going on - just a few more lucky rounds needed to make up for that killer block!
donator
Activity: 798
Merit: 500
August 27, 2011, 11:40:19 PM
Woohoo! Finally found a block! High five!!!

Maybe you can be happyface now???
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
August 27, 2011, 11:05:06 PM
Woohoo! Finally found a block! High five!!!
member
Activity: 65
Merit: 10
August 25, 2011, 01:46:37 PM
Great! We got the 3rd block today!!! Grin
jr. member
Activity: 50
Merit: 7
August 23, 2011, 06:27:32 PM
OhThankGodFinally!  Grin

And then another 1.5 hours later!

And maybe now people will come back to the pool?
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1004
August 23, 2011, 01:18:57 PM
Woooooo Smiley

Yay.  Hopefully your next block will be quicker.


1 hour 35 mins!  That's more like it. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1004
August 23, 2011, 01:16:37 PM
Woooooo Smiley

Yay.  Hopefully your next block will be quicker.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
August 23, 2011, 11:13:52 AM
Woooooo Smiley
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
August 22, 2011, 12:43:53 PM
Go us Sad
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1004
August 22, 2011, 07:15:04 AM
Congrats on reaching 10`000`000 shares guys, that's really impressive.
member
Activity: 101
Merit: 10
August 22, 2011, 05:59:46 AM
The current round is about to reach 10,000,000 shares.  At current difficulty, there is a roughly 1 in 254 chance of having a round that long (0.39274%)



legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1032
August 21, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
If someone wanted to drink their variance sorrows away and was wondering what the probability of hitting X (lets just say 9 million) shares given current D difficulty, how would that be done? I vaguely remember spreadsheets of poisson, and normal distributions from statistics, but I don't know how use them.

Slush's pool has a graph of what you're looking for: http://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/graphs/ - scroll to the bottom.

Slush's probability graph is full of math fail. Let me re-twat a previous post of mine (note the probability below was from a lower difficulty):

The CDF is already at 99.999% probability of finding a block per Poisson distribution table since 4 hours ago.
It's now at 8 million shares and 16 hours @ 600ghash/s.

Mathematically very, very improbable, if not practically impossible
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=355993.355997
http://www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/pmc/section3/pmc331.htm

(The probability of not solving a block within 960 minutes at current difficulty with 600ghash/s is <0.0000000000000001% and decreases exponentially after each passing minute)

I get a different answer. The chance of solving a block depends on difficulty.

Here is the probability of an individual hash solving a block: http://blockexplorer.com/q/probability

The current probability of solving a block with an individual hash is: 0.0000000000000001489590023459044440534704278888966655358

The current probability of not solving a block with one hash is therefore :
( 1 - 0.00000000000000014895900234590444 ) = 0.99999999999999985104099765409556

Let's call that chance of not solving with an individual hash (a number very close to 1, or 100%) "Z".

The probability of not solving a block with two hashes is Z * Z, better written as Z^2. Still nearly 100%. We need more hashes.

The pool averaged about 600Ghash per second. That is 600,000,000,000 hashes per second x 60 seconds per minute x 60 minutes per hour x 16 hours in the "imaginary" round. Probably around 34,560,000,000,000,000 hashes. That's another preposterous number, so I'll call that "hashTotal"

A pool trys hashTotal hashes in 16 hours, so the chance of not finding a block in that time is Z ^ hashTotal.

.99999... ^ 3.456E+16 = .02156 = 2.16% chance of not solving a block in 16 hours. Not improbable. Bruteforcing the nonce statistics don't enter into it, since everybody is doing random work on multiple blocks. Actual calculation done in Excel, not Matlab, so feel free to verify the percentage for me.


Note that also you cannot directly compute using shares or just multiply shares*difficulty, because the chance of finding a share (a difficulty 1 block solve) is also random with binomial distribution, and what is important is the complete number of individual hash attempts in the full difficulty problem.
donator
Activity: 289
Merit: 250
August 21, 2011, 06:19:57 PM
If someone wanted to drink their variance sorrows away and was wondering what the probability of hitting X (lets just say 9 million) shares given current D difficulty, how would that be done? I vaguely remember spreadsheets of poisson, and normal distributions from statistics, but I don't know how use them.

Slush's pool has a graph of what you're looking for: http://mining.bitcoin.cz/stats/graphs/ - scroll to the bottom.
donator
Activity: 798
Merit: 500
August 21, 2011, 06:12:43 PM
I think bad luck follows me around.  Switched my miners over from guild 3 days ago, they've been green on luck most of the last 3 days.  Not so much here.  If someone wanted to drink their variance sorrows away and was wondering what the probability of hitting X (lets just say 9 million) shares given current D difficulty, how would that be done? I vaguely remember spreadsheets of poisson, and normal distributions from statistics, but I don't know how use them.
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