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Topic: [Closed] MineCo.in - page 5. (Read 41555 times)

member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
July 14, 2011, 07:33:16 PM
Total this block: 11825
Eligible for Reward: 6359

Could you clearify this?

Maybe it's just cosmetic. It looks from my point of view that I have 11825 shares but only 6359 are counted toward the next block found?

I know the need to stop pool hoppers exists. But it really bites guys like me who mine all night 8-10 hours just to end up loosing all my shares durring the day when I don't mine (using pc durring the day). Would it save my shares if I logged in with only one of my cpu cores mining? or maybe just one of my 5970 cores mining durring the day?

Everyone is losing shares, not just you. So your % of the reward is still the same...

Your eligible shares are how many shares you have in the last 1/2 difficulty so your "Estimated Reward" shouldn't be changing all that much..

Read more about the method here : http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/Pay_Per_Last_N_Shares

Or come chat with us on IRC if you don't understand.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
July 14, 2011, 07:31:43 PM
Total this block: 11825
Eligible for Reward: 6359

Could you clearify this?

Maybe it's just cosmetic. It looks from my point of view that I have 11825 shares but only 6359 are counted toward the next block found?

I know the need to stop pool hoppers exists. But it really bites guys like me who mine all night 8-10 hours just to end up loosing all my shares durring the day when I don't mine (using pc durring the day). Would it save my shares if I logged in with only one of my cpu cores mining? or maybe just one of my 5970 cores mining durring the day?

Now it seems my shares  are falling? 

Total this block: 12568
Eligible for Reward: 5945    What the ?
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
July 14, 2011, 06:44:48 PM
Total this block: 11825
Eligible for Reward: 6359

Could you clearify this?

Maybe it's just cosmetic. It looks from my point of view that I have 11825 shares but only 6359 are counted toward the next block found?

I know the need to stop pool hoppers exists. But it really bites guys like me who mine all night 8-10 hours just to end up loosing all my shares durring the day when I don't mine (using pc durring the day). Would it save my shares if I logged in with only one of my cpu cores mining? or maybe just one of my 5970 cores mining durring the day?
member
Activity: 111
Merit: 10
July 14, 2011, 05:09:57 PM
I was getting insane rates of stale shares on my 6730 (20 accepted, 80+ stales). I thought it was my system but switched to BTCGuild and it's much improved (127/11). Not sure what it is I didn't have this problem until yesterday.
jr. member
Activity: 39
Merit: 1
July 14, 2011, 04:59:23 PM
globally - just to see that a nu block's found
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
July 14, 2011, 04:15:07 PM
Globally or per user ?
jr. member
Activity: 39
Merit: 1
July 14, 2011, 04:14:14 PM
Would it be possible for you to supply statistics as rss-feed?
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
July 14, 2011, 04:04:34 PM
After talking with some people in IRC, I realised that we were showing the GH settings in gibibyte (GiB) instead of gigabyte (GB).

I've updated it now across the site.

This might account for the 4% in your calculations, but I'm a bit lost on what you are saying/asking so I don't really know Smiley
lll
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
July 14, 2011, 11:09:12 AM
I mean, in our country saying - I do not need another person BTC and I will not give my
 BTC (
do not steal and not give my )

I am not guilty -  a translator
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
July 14, 2011, 10:51:15 AM
I do not know what your username is ?
lll
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
July 14, 2011, 10:32:10 AM
I do not need someone else and not give my
 Grin
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
July 14, 2011, 09:12:23 AM
The last Block for example was calculated over the last 764101 Shares.

So your reward for a 50BTC block would be :

(YourShares / 764101) * 50 BTC

So if you had 33811 shares then..

(33811 / 764101) * 50 = 2.21246929 BTC
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
July 14, 2011, 08:56:50 AM
I was doing stats for 3 days !!!!!
 I came out, that gets paid 94-95% of wages. About BTTS that must be shared between participants in a pool of 7 / 24, which comes from part-time participation in a round do not even want to raise the topic ....
I think you should stop cheating and really show% commission, which you take each and decide he should take part in your pool or not. I look forward to one day return to 5% for 3 days. The trust is lost. This occurs in 3 days.

If I was taking 6% of everyones rewards, that would be 3 BTC per block.. you don't think people would notice ?

When we moved over to PPLNS system I went through the calculations in detail with our pools biggest contributor, and we confirmed that the values were correct for his % of the pool ownership. They certainly were not 6% off.

Again, you are basing your calculations on totally incorrect values. You are using snapshot values, and estimates - so it's not surprising your calculations are around 5% off ?

As I've said - the most accurate value is the "Your Reward:" section in the left.
lll
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
July 14, 2011, 08:11:22 AM
I was doing stats for 3 days !!!!!
 I came out, that gets paid 94-95% of wages. About BTC that must be shared between participants in a pool of 7 / 24, which comes from part-time participation in a round do not even want to raise the topic ....
I think you should stop cheating and really show% commission, which you take each and decide he should take part in your pool or not. I look forward to one day return to 5% for 3 days. The trust is lost. This occurs in 3 days.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
firstbits: 1kwc1p
July 14, 2011, 07:59:33 AM
145Ghash / 6.621Ghash = 21.90
50 BTC / 21.90 = 2.2831 BTC
and projected
2.1667 BTC
verified in the last three blocks - the loss of 5-6% of the predicted


Unless the pool is at a constant 145 GH, you can't use such a simple algorithm to calculate what you expect.
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
July 14, 2011, 07:20:00 AM
145Ghash / 6.621Ghash = 21.90
50 BTC / 21.90 = 2.2831 BTC
and projected
2.1667 BTC
verified in the last three blocks - the loss of 5-6% of the predicted

The 145Ghash is an estimate of the current pool speed over the last 30 minutes, As you can see from the graph the speed fluctuates somewhat.

Reward isn't calculated from the estimated speeds, but in fact from valid shares

Your reward is calculated like this :

Total Shares = Valid Shares in last (Difficulty / 2) Shares
Your Shares  = Your Valid Shares in last (Difficulty / 2) Shares

Your reward = your % of your shares in total shares.

You cannot make a simple calculation like 145Ghash / 6.621Ghash to get your exact reward. The projected reward is the most accurate.

Hope that clears things up a bit.
lll
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
July 14, 2011, 06:18:09 AM
145Ghash / 6.621Ghash = 21.90
50 BTC / 21.90 = 2.2831 BTC
and projected
2.1667 BTC
verified in the last three blocks - the loss of 5-6% of the predicted
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
July 14, 2011, 06:09:36 AM
Wuked, what happens? I'm in the pool 24 / 7. I see that you take a commission of 5-6% give an explanation or I will go to another pool


I don't understand what you mean? We take no commission. How are you getting this 5-6% value ?
lll
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
July 14, 2011, 05:57:10 AM
Wuked, what happens? I'm in the pool 24 / 7. I see that you take a commission of 5-6% give an explanation or I will go to another pool
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
July 13, 2011, 07:35:39 PM
Yea good point.. alternatively you could allow someone to "delete" the worker through the web interface, but just set a flag in the database so it's hidden from the users view.

But, being able to edit them should work out alright just fine.
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