Topic: [CLOSED] - Stumptown Miners - Avalon PCB Assembly - West Coast USA (Read 30738 times)
January 29, 2014, 11:22:33 PM
Thanks for the update.
January 29, 2014, 12:16:12 AM
Given the entire Avalon mess, I think Ryepdx has handled the situation very professionally and at times going above call of duty to satisfy individuals involved in this group buy.
Thanks Ryan, this community needs more members like you.
Thanks Ryan, this community needs more members like you.
Thanks, Kushedout.
Ryan, is there a refund (or partial refund) for those of us that paid for boards and assembly but never received chips?
Yes, there's a partial refund available. I'm also in the process of kitting out the components for those of you whose miners Colin did not complete. I'm trying to get everything done as soon as possible, but it *is* a very time-consuming process.
I appreciate how you've handled this Ryan. However I can't help but feel shafted. Still haven't received anything other than the 6 extra chips.
As I stated above, I'm in the process of kitting out the components and chips I received from Colin. I've also received his funds, so I'll be sending out your labor refund tomorrow.
Thanks again for your support, everyone. I'm sorry this turned out so poorly.
January 27, 2014, 07:35:09 PM
I would be interested in building a couple of these for fun.
If anyone has a couple of full sets (pcb+components) that they are willing to let go at a price reflecting there current value (almost zero) please PM me.
I cannot justify paying there hash rate value as am gonna screw them up anyway probably so please keep the price reasonable, this is a just for fun project now..
Sorry for your losses.
If anyone has a couple of full sets (pcb+components) that they are willing to let go at a price reflecting there current value (almost zero) please PM me.
I cannot justify paying there hash rate value as am gonna screw them up anyway probably so please keep the price reasonable, this is a just for fun project now..
Sorry for your losses.
Yes i would also be interested depending on price.
January 27, 2014, 07:13:22 PM
I would be interested in building a couple of these for fun.
If anyone has a couple of full sets (pcb+components) that they are willing to let go at a price reflecting there current value (almost zero) please PM me.
I cannot justify paying there hash rate value as am gonna screw them up anyway probably so please keep the price reasonable, this is a just for fun project now..
Sorry for your losses.
If anyone has a couple of full sets (pcb+components) that they are willing to let go at a price reflecting there current value (almost zero) please PM me.
I cannot justify paying there hash rate value as am gonna screw them up anyway probably so please keep the price reasonable, this is a just for fun project now..
Sorry for your losses.
January 27, 2014, 02:47:22 PM
I appreciate how you've handled this Ryan. However I can't help but feel shafted. Still haven't received anything other than the 6 extra chips.
I just sent this message to a couple of my customers, and I'm posting it here as well:
Given the entire Avalon mess, I think Ryepdx has handled the situation very professionally and at times going above call of duty to satisfy individuals involved in this group buy.
Thanks Ryan, this community needs more members like you.
Definitely agree. Would've been easy for him to just bail awhile ago.Thanks Ryan, this community needs more members like you.
January 27, 2014, 12:56:56 PM
Ryan, is there a refund (or partial refund) for those of us that paid for boards and assembly but never received chips?
January 27, 2014, 11:48:35 AM
Given the entire Avalon mess, I think Ryepdx has handled the situation very professionally and at times going above call of duty to satisfy individuals involved in this group buy.
Thanks Ryan, this community needs more members like you.
Thanks Ryan, this community needs more members like you.
January 06, 2014, 02:49:50 AM
Sorry for this all going sideways but kudos are deserved for demonstrating how to handle a bad situation professionally Ryepdx. There is literally very little you can do when the people who promise the chips basically refuse to honor the timetable and I was amazed that to see you push things forward given the difficulty. Knowing that feeling of dread when you just have to chuck in the towel and start again sucks been there but things will get better.
January 06, 2014, 02:22:59 AM
as I said months ago, thanks for being above board on everything as this ship hit rocky waters and hope you can resell the few components of my small order to help you out. You refunded me enough even when the exchange rate wasn't in your favor.
hopefully most of your customers know that some of the money is in 'sunked in' cost
hopefully most of your customers know that some of the money is in 'sunked in' cost
January 06, 2014, 01:34:26 AM
I just sent this message to a couple of my customers, and I'm posting it here as well:
As it says above, please let me know if you have any questions. Sorry this has turned out so poorly for everyone.
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Well, it looks like Colin is backing out of the project. He's going to be shipping me the miners he has managed to complete, along with the components. I plan on sending everyone their chips and the miners that were made with their chips, along with the components and circuit boards that *would* have gone into their miners.
I'm very frustrated and tired right now, and I don't imagine you're feeling any better about this news than I am. I'll be refunding the assembly cost of your order, along with my margin, as soon as Colin sends me the funds I need to do so. Please let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything more I can do to make this right by you.
Sorry to be delivering such crappy news.
Ryan
I'm very frustrated and tired right now, and I don't imagine you're feeling any better about this news than I am. I'll be refunding the assembly cost of your order, along with my margin, as soon as Colin sends me the funds I need to do so. Please let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything more I can do to make this right by you.
Sorry to be delivering such crappy news.
Ryan
As it says above, please let me know if you have any questions. Sorry this has turned out so poorly for everyone.
December 10, 2013, 10:32:02 PM
So far I've received and shipped on Bogart's miners. Nothing yet on yours, tolan77. Sorry. I emailed Colin again today and will hopefully hear back soon.
:/ I ordered 4xK16 miners from Zephirs Batch 1 of chips is there any chance I'm actually going to be receiving any of these? If you don't mind me asking how many orders with chips batch 1 Zefir did you have besides Bogart? December 10, 2013, 05:48:47 PM
So far I've received and shipped on Bogart's miners. Nothing yet on yours, tolan77. Sorry. I emailed Colin again today and will hopefully hear back soon.
December 10, 2013, 05:05:59 PM
Hello? Any word?
November 30, 2013, 03:56:38 AM
Please just send mine out unless you're planning to make any headway on it soon. It's really hurting that I put about 8btc into these chips and this project :p
November 11, 2013, 07:25:06 PM
I guess I'll take delivery of mine, even if they're underperforming.
At least I can hash with them while searching/waiting for a solution.
At least I can hash with them while searching/waiting for a solution.
November 08, 2013, 10:23:42 PM
Colin with hard figures:
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The unit that works perfectly runs at ~71wu, the others are 50, 35, 30 and 20. Those are relative and approximate since they change a little as it runs. 71wu/s is the full 5.5gh/s.
November 05, 2013, 10:48:02 PM
Tough call. Precise performance numbers may help in deciding.
I'm inclined to take delivery even if they're not fully up to snuff. Some hashpower in the hand is better than none in a pile of parts IMO.
I'm inclined to take delivery even if they're not fully up to snuff. Some hashpower in the hand is better than none in a pile of parts IMO.
November 05, 2013, 11:19:13 AM
Oof. Not so fast. I just got this email from Colin:
Since these are your miners, I thought I should get some feedback on how you want me to proceed now. I don't know how many hardware errors there are, nor do I know how much of a performance hit the miners are taking. I emailed Colin asking for some hard numbers to help with the decision-making.
Thoughts on this?
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Unfortunately I've got some troubling news. After assembling a number of miners I'm getting odd test results. All of the miners hash to some degree, but at very differing rates with most reporting hardware errors now and then. I've been working for days now trying to figure out whats going on. My guess is some of the ASIC's are not contributing or are not hashing properly.
I'm not really sure what to do next. Right now, I have 5 fully built with another 10 assembled but not re-flowed. I stopped assembly and reflow when I started to get odd results testing.
Of the 5, 1 works perfectly (my first unit), another almost as good, and the others less then ideal.
Needless to say I don't want to keep going until I can figure out the problem, but I'm not sure its worth it at this point ? I'm burning a ton of time on this project, and while interesting there was never a budget for it.
To make matters worse, I've got to head out of town Wednesday morning, so I'm running out of time. I'll be back in two weeks, but trying to ship these in a timely manner is looking unlikely. It's bad timing but I never expected to still be working on these.
At this point, there's a couple of options:
1. Pull the plug. I can send the few working units and all the parts. I'd be willing to refund 75% of the assembly cost.
2. Keep at it. I can't do much before leaving, but can attempt to debug the units when I return. I'll send the two units that seem to work the best asap.
Right now, most of the parts/asics have not been reflowed, meaning I can take them off the assembled PCB's, clean them and try again or just send them back.
To figure out whats not working I'll need to setup a test environment and probe the boards until I find a dud ASIC and then try to make it work. ktest may help with that. Unfortunately the firmware as is contains no diagnostic code or report of ASICs not responding.
The biggest issue is time. Time spent and time to get them delivered.
Not the news I wanted to give you. Let me know your thoughts asap and we can figure out what to do next.
I'm not really sure what to do next. Right now, I have 5 fully built with another 10 assembled but not re-flowed. I stopped assembly and reflow when I started to get odd results testing.
Of the 5, 1 works perfectly (my first unit), another almost as good, and the others less then ideal.
Needless to say I don't want to keep going until I can figure out the problem, but I'm not sure its worth it at this point ? I'm burning a ton of time on this project, and while interesting there was never a budget for it.
To make matters worse, I've got to head out of town Wednesday morning, so I'm running out of time. I'll be back in two weeks, but trying to ship these in a timely manner is looking unlikely. It's bad timing but I never expected to still be working on these.
At this point, there's a couple of options:
1. Pull the plug. I can send the few working units and all the parts. I'd be willing to refund 75% of the assembly cost.
2. Keep at it. I can't do much before leaving, but can attempt to debug the units when I return. I'll send the two units that seem to work the best asap.
Right now, most of the parts/asics have not been reflowed, meaning I can take them off the assembled PCB's, clean them and try again or just send them back.
To figure out whats not working I'll need to setup a test environment and probe the boards until I find a dud ASIC and then try to make it work. ktest may help with that. Unfortunately the firmware as is contains no diagnostic code or report of ASICs not responding.
The biggest issue is time. Time spent and time to get them delivered.
Not the news I wanted to give you. Let me know your thoughts asap and we can figure out what to do next.
Since these are your miners, I thought I should get some feedback on how you want me to proceed now. I don't know how many hardware errors there are, nor do I know how much of a performance hit the miners are taking. I emailed Colin asking for some hard numbers to help with the decision-making.
Thoughts on this?
November 05, 2013, 06:28:12 AM
+1 Ryan.... nice work.
Glad to see the finish line on these I bet?
Glad to see the finish line on these I bet?
November 05, 2013, 12:43:35 AM
Quick update:
The firmware on the miners does not yet allow for chaining K16s together using "klego" adapters, nor does it allow for updates via USB. If you take receipt of your miners now and you want to be able to chain your miners together sometime in the future, you will eventually need to flash them with a PIC ICD3 or PicKit programmer. If you aren't comfortable with doing that, I will gladly host your miners for the cost of electricity until the firmware is updated and I can flash them myself.
Colin has begun cranking out miners, so you will be receiving yours shortly unless you decide you want me to hold on to them for the time being. Please PM me if that's the case.
Thanks,
Ryan
The firmware on the miners does not yet allow for chaining K16s together using "klego" adapters, nor does it allow for updates via USB. If you take receipt of your miners now and you want to be able to chain your miners together sometime in the future, you will eventually need to flash them with a PIC ICD3 or PicKit programmer. If you aren't comfortable with doing that, I will gladly host your miners for the cost of electricity until the firmware is updated and I can flash them myself.
Colin has begun cranking out miners, so you will be receiving yours shortly unless you decide you want me to hold on to them for the time being. Please PM me if that's the case.
Thanks,
Ryan
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