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I checked this thread because I play casino and for me it is very important to check the reviews about casino. Not only positive, but also a negative one.
I saw here negative reviews about Cloudbet but they were delated too.
Do you thing that the team of Cloudbet hire somebody to post negative reviews?
May be it is competitors post here negative reviews because casino is popular and discussed.

As for me I think that there is no reason just to hire somebody and pay money for posts because this thread is at the top and actively discussed without any posting.

May be everything is much more simple.

Cloudbet has a lot of users and one of them has real problems with this account on Cloudbet.

But he does not have an account on bitcointalk. He register on bitcointalk and informed about problem.

Team of Cloudbet solve his problem and he desapered without explaying everything.

legendary
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I do not understand why it is necessary to spam in the topic of casino that is 9 years old. I am even not sure that the team of Clodbet check this topic because it does not answer the question of users and do not make any comments.
So that it always stay at the top. It eventually bring traffic to the site.
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I checked this thread because I play casino and for me it is very important to check the reviews about casino. Not only positive, but also a negative one.
I saw here negative reviews about Cloudbet but they were delated too.
Do you thing that the team of Cloudbet hire somebody to post negative reviews?
May be it is competitors post here negative reviews because casino is popular and discussed.

As for me I think that there is no reason just to hire somebody and pay money for posts because this thread is at the top and actively discussed without any posting.

I remember this case because I monitor situation about blocking accounts. One newbie with few posts informed about he has problems with withdrawals from his account and promised that he will get information tomorow. Next day he promissed to disclose details tomorrow again and so on several days. Then the person disapeared.

But this attract a lot of users and people actively disscused this situation. I think that if there are no prooves it is not necessary to trust the posts. May be that is why moderators delated this posts.
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Cloudbet should answer this because hiring shill cannot give any positive output on them but instead people will doubt about their intentions for doing this. They are old casino so they should know the consequences of the actions towards this and if many people will find out that they hired shills for sure this could bring them more criticism from people who doubt about their reputation.
I don't think Cloudbet is behind the shilling, though. It's an old casino, they have had so many campaign in the past, and they definitely know the forum rules. This particular ring of scammers or bumping farm just replies other threads to;
1. Increase post count.
2. Make their accounts undetectable to the snoops by covering their tracks in legitimate threads.

I checked this thread because I play casino and for me it is very important to check the reviews about casino. Not only positive, but also a negative one.
I saw here negative reviews about Cloudbet but they were delated too.
Do you thing that the team of Cloudbet hire somebody to post negative reviews?
May be it is competitors post here negative reviews because casino is popular and discussed.

As for me I think that there is no reason just to hire somebody and pay money for posts because this thread is at the top and actively discussed without any posting.
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Cloudbet should answer this because hiring shill cannot give any positive output on them but instead people will doubt about their intentions for doing this. They are old casino so they should know the consequences of the actions towards this and if many people will find out that they hired shills for sure this could bring them more criticism from people who doubt about their reputation.
I don't think Cloudbet is behind the shilling, though. It's an old casino, they have had so many campaign in the past, and they definitely know the forum rules. This particular ring of scammers or bumping farm just replies other threads to;
1. Increase post count.
2. Make their accounts undetectable to the snoops by covering their tracks in legitimate threads.
jr. member
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What's going on here? Does Cloudbet hire a bumping shills since there's a lot newbies with copper membership keep replying in this thread. I don't think those copper member-newbie rank accounts are just accidental, not many users are want to pay copper membership and you wouldn't see copper member-newbie rank accounts replying on the other thread except on Cloudbet.
You can't prove it. The best course of action you can do is to report the posts that you think are spam. It takes only few clicks.

I do not understand why it is necessary to spam in the topic of casino that is 9 years old. I am even not sure that the team of Clodbet check this topic because it does not answer the question of users and do not make any comments.
legendary
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Cloudbet should answer this because hiring shill cannot give any positive output on them but instead people will doubt about their intentions for doing this. They are old casino so they should know the consequences of the actions towards this and if many people will find out that they hired shills for sure this could bring them more criticism from people who doubt about their reputation.
OP is inactive in the forum since last 7 months. Therefore, don't expect any response from him regarding this matter. I have read the posts of those users. Most of the posts were off topic (not related to Cloudbet services). I had reported around 50 posts yesterday, and all those posts were deleted by the moderators. I have reported few more posts today. Hopefully moderators will delete them too. They weren't praising about Cloudbet services. They would do it if Cloudbet hired them to shill in this thread.
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What's going on here? Does Cloudbet hire a bumping shills since there's a lot newbies with copper membership keep replying in this thread. I don't think those copper member-newbie rank accounts are just accidental, not many users are want to pay copper membership and you wouldn't see copper member-newbie rank accounts replying on the other thread except on Cloudbet.
You can't prove it. The best course of action you can do is to report the posts that you think are spam. It takes only few clicks.
hero member
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What's going on here? Does Cloudbet hire a bumping shills since there's a lot newbies with copper membership keep replying in this thread. I don't think those copper member-newbie rank accounts are just accidental, not many users are want to pay copper membership and you wouldn't see copper member-newbie rank accounts replying on the other thread except on Cloudbet.
I noticed the bump accounts, too, a while back. I am trying to compile the list and then report them. My current findings suggest it's an elaborate ring of scammers who have not only stopped at setting up scam projects or coins, but also shill other scam projects. The involved accounts are so many. We are looking at 60 plus shill accounts.

Cloudbet should answer this because hiring shill cannot give any positive output on them but instead people will doubt about their intentions for doing this. They are old casino so they should know the consequences of the actions towards this and if many people will find out that they hired shills for sure this could bring them more criticism from people who doubt about their reputation.
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What's going on here? Does Cloudbet hire a bumping shills since there's a lot newbies with copper membership keep replying in this thread. I don't think those copper member-newbie rank accounts are just accidental, not many users are want to pay copper membership and you wouldn't see copper member-newbie rank accounts replying on the other thread except on Cloudbet.
I noticed the bump accounts, too, a while back. I am trying to compile the list and then report them. My current findings suggest it's an elaborate ring of scammers who have not only stopped at setting up scam projects or coins, but also shill other scam projects. The involved accounts are so many. We are looking at 60 plus shill accounts.
legendary
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Yes, I understand your point, it is logical to think like this, however, we must also take into account that despite the fact that KYC can have all these advantages in a possible attack and all the data that is available to a hacker is very dangerous, identifications would be obtained , exact locations of where each person lives, the amount of their operations is there, amount of money and crypto that is handled, and now criminals handle a lot of information, they are more intelligent and know a lot about computers, they make use of the tools technology for your good, then that is a problem and that is why there is so much discussion on the subject.

Therefore, it is very important to ensure the safety of users' personal data so that hackers do not get access to them. Users should be sure that their personal data is stored in a safe place.
This would be ideal, but how could they do it? If it is no longer a problem on our part, it is on the sites,? In these cases, if the government or government entities decide to get involved in these things, governments should also respond when KYC is requested in a casino, and if the site is hacked, then the government should use all its resources to find them. criminals, perhaps working in this way could give many results, and people would be safer, so this is something that we put in context, for this we need many things, but I know that it is impossible for a government to get so involved, besides country that are not white sticks for wanting to help and "protect people."


Any casino is very important for its reputation and if there are a lot of unjustified account blockages, there will be a lot of complaints in Internet. It's very easy to lose the reputation that way. And it is extremely difficult to restore it.

Now there is such a large selection of casinos that reputation is very important for any casino so that people choose this particular casino.
Well, there is something that must be understood, for such an act to occur on the part of a casino, it is because they have probably found something out of the ordinary, perhaps something that does not add up, or something very suspicious, perhaps what they are looking for is clarify the activity of those accounts, there is no need to raise that type of accusations yet, perhaps by mail they will be able to say the reasons.

In every casino they are always interested in the activity of their players, they will never put people to lose them, a casino is done by their clients, their players, so I think there must be very good explanations for this, at least I think so.
legendary
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What's going on here? Does Cloudbet hire a bumping shills since there's a lot newbies with copper membership keep replying in this thread. I don't think those copper member-newbie rank accounts are just accidental, not many users are want to pay copper membership and you wouldn't see copper member-newbie rank accounts replying on the other thread except on Cloudbet.
Good catch, I hadn't paid much attention to those newbie users post before. I thought that those newbie users are making posts here for having problems with Cloudbet. But now it seems like they have a different intention. Perhaps, Cloudbet team hasn't hired them to spam in this thread. Those users are posting here to promote their tokens. All of them have created an ANN thread of a useless (probably scam) tokens. Their username is same with the tokens name. I will report those posts, hopefully moderators will take their action.
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What's going on here? Does Cloudbet hire a bumping shills since there's a lot newbies with copper membership keep replying in this thread. I don't think those copper member-newbie rank accounts are just accidental, not many users are want to pay copper membership and you wouldn't see copper member-newbie rank accounts replying on the other thread except on Cloudbet.
legendary
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The players want to earn more, so they use all sorts of manipulations. In casinos, people are willing to take risks, including the risk of violating the rules of the casino.

The casino does everything possible to stop various manipulations, so all suspicious accounts are blocked and users who are suspected of manipulations are not allowed to withdraw money.

I understand that dealing with cheaters is something very difficult because they create new accounts every day and try to cheat, but certain casinos have used their TOS as an argument for not allowing people to withdraw money that is on the site and when questioning the casino: why don't you post evidence that the user who was blocked and who is being accused of having too many accounts has too many accounts? the casino always says they can't show evidence because cheaters can see the security measures casinos use to catch cheaters

Before playing at the casino, you need to carefully read the terms of use of the casino and then there will be no problems, including there will be no problems with money laundering.

almost all people do this, the problem arises when the casino itself is a scam and they don't want to pay and they keep using arguments like using many accounts and then asking for KYC and then blocking the person, even here on the forum I saw many of these types of cases and they were few cases where the customer received the money

Well, what's the sense of making a deposit in a casino and immediately withdrawing money? People come to the casino to play and enjoy the game, not to withdraw money after making a deposit.

there are cases where the person deposits and then bets on a game and loses and gets frustrated and sad and decides to withdraw all the rest of the money that is in the casino, I believe that this happens to many people, so we cannot say that all people who make deposits and withdraw without making a lot of bets are laundering money, what you have to watch out for is if the person gambles regularly or does this kind of thing regularly and what are the deposit amounts
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In any case, before registering at the casino, you need to read the terms of use to know what you can do and what is forbidden to do at the casino.

Almost all casinos have the same terms of use. The same things are prohibited everywhere, such as the creation of multiaccounts and all sorts of frauds and manipulations with the account.

The players want to earn more, so they use all sorts of manipulations. In casinos, people are willing to take risks, including the risk of violating the rules of the casino.

Abusers is not taking risk at all because they are just abusing the bonus and hope that they will not caught. In the event that they are caught, There original funds will be refund by the casino and just ban there account. They are just risking there KYC since it’s a requirements to recover there funds but since there’s many people especially on 3rd world country that willing to sell there KYC details in exchange for a penny. This scammer/abuser keeps coming back since they have unlimited source of ID for KYC verification.

This is the risk on the casino side by providing bonus to all new registered player. This is the reason too why KYC requirements is starting to become a mandatory on some casino.
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Yeah, This is dangerous for those user that selling there verified gambling account in the market. I saw many users before that selling this kind of accounts and most probably it was hacked account. Worst scenario was your KYC account got hacked and used to cheat in the casino while you have the ID for the casino to trace and sue you for the violations that scammer did. This is what I’m avoiding too on submitting my KYC on casino.
Due to hacked accounts and fraudulent users, the casinos themselves suffer. After all, if a player has conceived fraud, then even despite the presence of KYC, he will use a fraudulent or hacked account.
On any forms of business, there will always be abusers like that but business owners can do something to stop them. If it's an online casino then they can increase their website's security and they can also enforce a KYC to intimidate those who will try to abuse their sites but if ever the abusers insist to and they are caught out, it will be easier for the casino to trace them.

Some criminals will just hack someone's account that are verified already by a KYC and they will use it for their exploits. Problems like this will be solved out easily if a user who got hacked will cooperate on the casinos immediately and then the casino will freeze their accounts.

What happens is that in these things many scenarios can occur, the first is that they can be hacked accounts and the person who was hacked has no reason to report it and leaves it like that, the other is that they sell their account to another person, and Obviously you do your misdeeds with all your apparent KYC, but this can be avoided in the case of a very large withdrawal, you can do as some protocols do in Binance, a quick KYC, that is, it can be a photo or a small video of verification that the person in front is actually the owner of that account, I think that is how they can protect an account, and unfortunately it is through KYC.

I deposited Doge yesterday but I decided not to bet anymore and when I try to withdraw the withdraw address is disabled, whats wrong with the withdrawal function, Is it working or not?
Actually, most of the casinos & sportsbooks will not allow you to just deposit and withdraw. I have been in such a situation and it feels terrible but you need to probably rollover once the deposited amount before withdrawing. I shouted at a casino's support initially because I was like, dude I am paying the transaction/withdrawal fees so just send it. But the support person informed me that due to money laundering and mixing issues they have to put such limitations in place.

I don't your exact problem but mostly that is it. Cloudbet has a live support option on-site so they might also help you out. I wish to see you get back your coins asap.
Wow, I have never encountered such and I am just getting to know about this for the first time, such an option is absolutely bullshit if you ask me, and using money laundering and mixing to excuse such option is another bullshit, peeps should be free do whatever they want with their money, why force me to gamble if I changed my mind  after depositing into your casino? Makes no sense to me....
If I know such casino, I will never use it, it's as simple as that.

Uff, I mean, if I deposit, play and win, they don't allow me to withdraw my money? or if I deposit let's say 500usd and win 200usd they won't let me withdraw the 700usd? I am not against the lyeyes so that they catch the rogues, but come on, the big ones do not use the casinos to launder money, they do it in other ways, it will be for an apprentice who wants to do something like that, however I would not like to have one situation like this, because it is obvious that if I enter a casino and deposit, if I get my winnings and want to withdraw everything, that should not be considered money laundering and less with little money, if I would consider that a person deposits $1M and wants to withdraw it at once, but with not so high monotons it doesn't apply, or well it shouldn't.

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Wow, I have never encountered such and I am just getting to know about this for the first time, such an option is absolutely bullshit if you ask me, and using money laundering and mixing to excuse such option is another bullshit, peeps should be free do whatever they want with their money, why force me to gamble if I changed my mind  after depositing into your casino? Makes no sense to me....
If I know such casino, I will never use it, it's as simple as that.
You will face difficulties to make a withdrawal at 99% betting sites if you try to withdraw your deposited funds without placing any bets. You can't blame Cloudbet or any other casino for this. Casinos are really strict when it comes to money laundering activity. It just takes a few minutes to get the deposited funds in crypto casino account. You shouldn't access online casino if your decision changes within a few minutes gap. Your signature casino also has rollover requirements on deposit.
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I deposited Doge yesterday but I decided not to bet anymore and when I try to withdraw the withdraw address is disabled, whats wrong with the withdrawal function, Is it working or not?
Actually, most of the casinos & sportsbooks will not allow you to just deposit and withdraw. I have been in such a situation and it feels terrible but you need to probably rollover once the deposited amount before withdrawing. I shouted at a casino's support initially because I was like, dude I am paying the transaction/withdrawal fees so just send it. But the support person informed me that due to money laundering and mixing issues they have to put such limitations in place.

I don't your exact problem but mostly that is it. Cloudbet has a live support option on-site so they might also help you out. I wish to see you get back your coins asap.
Wow, I have never encountered such and I am just getting to know about this for the first time, such an option is absolutely bullshit if you ask me, and using money laundering and mixing to excuse such option is another bullshit, peeps should be free do whatever they want with their money, why force me to gamble if I changed my mind  after depositing into your casino? Makes no sense to me....
If I know such casino, I will never use it, it's as simple as that.
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the worst part is when the criminal takes people's documents and sells it on the black market and on the black market another criminal buys the document and commits a crime on behalf of the person who is in the document, then the police when investigating starts looking for the person in the document and it is difficult for the person with the document to prove that he was not the author of the crime

The person whose personal data is stolen does not know for what purposes his personal data will be used. This is the main problem of personal data leakage.

Therefore, the security of the cryptocurrency platform is important, whether it is an exchange or a casino. After all, not only money is stolen, but also personal data.

even if the casino says they are safe, there is the problem that no one knows the identity of the casino owner, casino headquarters, so it is difficult to trust your documents to a completely anonymous person, this is sincerely unfair, as the casino owner is anonymous but customers can't be anonymous? when did curacao or someone government inspect a casino to check if they are compliant with KYC and if all people's documents are safe or not? I have never heard that curacao or any government has done inspections to see if the casino complies with KYC and if people's documents are safe or not. That's why I don't even understand why they ask for KYC
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Does Cloudbet limit players?

Since last week some times it fails when I place a bet. Initialy there is an amount in the max bet field, and when tryiing to place a bet under that amount it fails, and the maxbet amount changes down a lot.
Never had this problem before.

Regards
Hey mate,

I suggest you write to them a message to this email address ([email protected]). Their support is is no longer active here, and you probably won't get the answers you want in time from here.
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