Topic: Covid-19 vaccination becoming a criteria to live in the world - page 3. (Read 1027 times)

Better than nothing, I mean like you said, I'm also taking vaccines rather than risking my life surviving indefinitely in lockdown.
Looking at the existing data, it is a fact that people who have been vaccinated can at least reduce the effects of the spread of the existing virus.

We infringe individual rights all the time in the pursuit of living in a society that isn't complete chaos because everyone can just do whatever they want in the name of "personal freedom."  You have to pay taxes, you can't make threats against other people, you can't drive as fast as you want or wherever you want, employer's have to create a safe work environment for employees, etc.  Each of these is an example of an infringement on an individual's rights to live how they want, but we accept these because they help create a society worth living in.  Vaccine mandates are just another example.  So the issue isn't "we shouldn't do this because it infringes a right" because we already do that all the time without controversy.  The issue is "should we infringe this right because it makes society substantially better."

Better than nothing, I mean like what you have said, I also take the vaccine instead of risking my life.
The stats showing the possibilities of surviving once you have the vaccines is fair enough to gamble in taking the shots.
If there are still people believes that Covid was created to scare people then let them think that way, it's more wise to
take your action and separate yourself from the possibilities of getting infected and continue surviving.

People who fear receiving doses of vaccines are those who believe in the frightening effects of vaccines in the short and long term. The Covid-19 vaccine is still in the pilot stage and its effectiveness as a prevention of viral infection and also as a chain breaker may have varying success rates depending on the type of drug used. The most feared short term effect of vaccines is sudden death and that is the reason most people refuse to be vaccinated.

However, in my opinion, there are still cases of transmission for those who receive the full dose if they are more often exposed to people with covid so that the dose obtained cannot make their body 100% immune to the virus. Recipients of the vaccine dose can still spread the virus if they don't take care of their bodies and clothes. Vaccines will only reduce the rate of transmission of the virus and will not eliminate the virus forever. So it's up to them whether they want to accept it or not because human rights also need to be considered. Never force a frightened person, they may be more susceptible to short term effects because of their fear. But let them take it when they need it because the government is starting to limit the access of people who do not receive a dose of vaccine to get public services in government institutions.

The number of people in my nation that became ill enough to stay in hospital from covid is huge. 50%+ of it was people who had no vaccination, 30% or so was from people with 2 sinovac, only 1.1% was from 3 sinovac, 0.5% or so was from 2 biontech. This is a good enough stat to convince me. However, these people see these stats and either say it is a lie, or they say covid was created so that they could sell these vaccinations and make money.. like that makes sense? I mean okay, even if they did something so horrible, I still want that vaccination so that I do not die, the reason is unimportant the result is you die without it.

maybe if likened it could be like this, you know about fire, you know the effect of burning fire that causes damage to the skin but there is a solution when you are burned by fire that is you have to keep the source of the fire away from around you, after that close your burn and give medicine so as not to inveksi and your wound so as not to inveksi.
but you deny this and say that when you are burned there is no point in treating and removing the source of the fire that is burning you.
I think that's a pretty stupid thing to do.

just as we now know that this virus exists, we know that many victims have died from this virus and we also know that the government and health units have made some kind of antidote in the hope of reducing the spread of the virus so that it does not spread. but still deny that this virus exists and think this is just a trick by the government to scare and vaccines are a tool from the government so that later there will be side effects on government experiments. this is so ridiculous.

Unfortunately there are way too many people who are dumb enough to think that they are actually the smart ones. That's not a joke, people who do not get vaccination believes that they are the smart people. Because, we get vaccinated and "do not ask any questions about it", they assume that we did absolutely zero research about it and just accepted it because government told us to get it, they do not realize that we did our research and found it very beneficial to get it.

Hence, because they do not get it and because so many people do get it, they assume that they are the smart ones who realize what's wrong. In reality they do not realize they are the idiots who cause the world to still be in this mess, if they weren't acting like this then the world would become a good place by now.

I will say this - there are enough fools everywhere. Fools have always been, fools will always be!
But there is a slight difference. Being a fool and denying computer technology, for example, will only lead to technological backwardness. But it will not lead to death!
Denial of the need for vaccinations, and refusal of vaccinations, will actually become some kind of "natural selection", because the unvaccinated have the maximum mortality rate, and the unvaccinated who have had the illness and who have received complications will find themselves on the "outskirts" of a full life, and are likely to become, in a sense, "outcasts". Well, for the rest of the population, not vaccinated, will become a "walking advertisement" of the statement "it is necessary to be vaccinated!" It may sound a little harsh, but this is the reality ...

It was a hilarious meme, haha. We are not all the same, but most private sector employers are advising job seekers to get vaccinated because it is one of their requirements, and the government is planning to make it mandatory, so we won't have a choice. We have no choice but to follow. I am vaccinated, but I respect those who do not want to be.

Yeah, I love it. A vaccine panorama and a funny meme.


Currently, in our country, to return to work must be fully vaccinated. Unvaccinated people will be at a disadvantage to them. Traveling between countries also requires full vaccinations and screening tests to get on the plane.

yes, what you say is true. my friend was forced to not work because he had not received the vaccination. as you said if you want to work in a vaccination card company is now a mandatory requirement. my friend was not vaccinated not because she didn't want to be vaccinated, but because she had an inherited disease that made her unable to receive the vaccine.

To dumb for people to believe in such rumors hopefully they will realize that the vaccine goes with many trial across the globe and this is not secretly happened since this was over the news when the vaccine created. I do hope Anti-vaxxers will realize that they should believe on the experts who created the vaccine so that we can achieve the herd immunity globally.

Maybe its time for government to take action to the people spreading false news so that we can achieve the goal and this covid will slowly fades away.

Anti-vaxxers are having a field day with this pandemic. They have successfully convinced hundreds of millions around the world not to take vaccine, by spreading rumors of side effects. Even developed countries like the United States are reporting 2,000+ deaths per day now (and according to various sources, almost all of the deaths are among the unvaccinated people). During the initial phases it was OK to refuse vaccination, because the clinical trials were not complete. But now, billions of doses have been administered and very few people have reported side effects. No justification exists to refuse vaccination now. 

Vaccination is very easy to imagine in the form of a classic story: there is a very wide river teeming with aggressive crocodiles. People need to cross this river from bank to bank. You can try to swim very quickly across the river - there is a different from 0 probability that the crocodiles will not have time to react to you.
But others offered to quickly build a bridge, even if in a hurry, even without a 100% guarantee that no one will fall from it. But it is guaranteed that 99% will surely cross the river safely. What do you choose - try to quickly cross the river every time, or go over the bridge? Also with vaccination - you can not get vaccinated and risk guaranteed with a high probability, but you can get vaccinated and get very limited risks with a low probability

In my place, there are many doctors and health clinics who always state positively anyone who goes there for treatment, this is because all Covid patients will get special treatment and this is a business for doctors, I think without being vaccinated, we will be strong in dealing with the virus with a record of maintaining health, namely food and lots of physical exercise.

We can see that vaccination is one of the requirements whether it's from the company or others,
and the problem is that there are still many who have not been vaccinated for various exact reasons,
I don't think it's fair when someone loses their job because they haven't been vaccinated

There are certain groups of people who can't be vaccinated due to medical conditions and other issues. These restrictions are meant for them. Otherwise, everyone else is supposed to get inoculated with two doses of the vaccine (third booster dose as well, if there is a requirement). The pandemic has already killed 5-10 million individuals so far, and the governments are gradually getting stricter with the restrictions. If they want the pandemic to be contained within the next 6-12 months, then they need to compel the population to take vaccine.

It's not so simple like this. Without the vaccine you will be forbidden from travelling even inside your country and it won't be possible to go to stores and public buildings (probably all of them) that are part of our daily appointments. It looks like life without vaccination is going to be like a home prison imposed by governments following WHO's guidance. It means you can expect similar regulations for most countries.
To keep our routines normal and our lives prospering and thriving like you said, we will have to take the vaccine, there isn't another option.

Unfortunately the availability of tue vaccine is still low. I need to wait for long time until I can get it. I personally think that it is a humanity matters and vaccine should not be traded but should be distributed freely. The companies which produce vaccine should not take advantage in this situation, but government still have to support that company. Today, in my country there are many places that ask the citizens to show vaccination card. Even companies also give time about 1 month maximum to it's workers to get vaccinated.

What a load of BS? The majority of the deaths that have occurred in my neighborhood was caused by a delay in seeking medical help. Self medication works with minor illnesses such as flu and cold, but not with COVID. I would advice everyone to get hospitalized if they get infected with COVID and in case they suffer from breathing difficulty or fatigue. Self-medication won't work if you can't breathe on your own. And staying unvaccinated is your own choice.. but it's not something that I would ever consider for any of my family members.