Topic: Covid-19 vaccination becoming a criteria to live in the world - page 9. (Read 1026 times)
September 12, 2021, 03:46:22 AM
If you want to build a herd immunity then probably you should know that it's the best thing to do, having everyone vaccinated so the vulnerable population that wasn't vaccinated yet will be protected because no one gets infected because of the vaccines and the virus having no way to be transferred to other people.
September 12, 2021, 02:41:21 AM
The vaccination discrimination was pretty much expected.
I don't trust the vaccines(I'm not anti-vaxxer),but if the government forces me to vaccinate,I will have to do it.The vaccines have to be tested for at least 10 years to ensure that there aren't any long term side effects.
I'm glad that there's no such thing as vaccination discrimination in the country where I live and the vaccination here will remain voluntary.I've had COVID symptoms back in March,so I guess that I have natural immunity for a while.
I don't believe that non-vaccinated people will be stopped from buying and selling.This is a violation of basic human rights.
I don't trust the vaccines(I'm not anti-vaxxer),but if the government forces me to vaccinate,I will have to do it.The vaccines have to be tested for at least 10 years to ensure that there aren't any long term side effects.
I'm glad that there's no such thing as vaccination discrimination in the country where I live and the vaccination here will remain voluntary.I've had COVID symptoms back in March,so I guess that I have natural immunity for a while.
I don't believe that non-vaccinated people will be stopped from buying and selling.This is a violation of basic human rights.
September 12, 2021, 02:29:53 AM
Soon the world could be divided into those who are vaccinated and those who are not, and perhaps those who are not vaccinated will have to be publicly marked - it reminds me a bit of the segregation carried out by the Nazis against Jews, or the black population by whites in the US.
First of all, thank you Lucius for that great input. I am not against vaccination but I am against those governments that will try to harm their countrymen's emotions just because they are not yet vaccinated and will put ground into where they could be/go for that reason.
1. Did they really reach every human being living in their country?
2. Are vaccines at 95-100% without side effects long-term. Because I still see people having doubts about it because family relatives and friends experience that causes death.
You only see this kind of act in movies and tv series, separating the infected zombie from the non-infected.
Too much Netflix is hurting our leaders' decision-making.
September 12, 2021, 02:21:34 AM
It is a very complex topic. Obviously we should respect the decision of those who refuse to get vaccinated. But at the same time, we need to remember that those who refuse to get vaccinated are not only putting their lives in danger, but also endangering others lives as well. So this presents a very uncomfortable question on whether we should tolerate these anti-vaxxers among ourselves. The fact is that this pandemic would have been under control by now, if vaccination was being made mandatory. That was not done and the freedom to choose was given to individuals. But that is costing lives now.
Actually it is hard to decide for yourself if you really wanna go got vaccinated or not because of the reported side effect of the vaccine however it is also understandable that the government will going to implement such rules of mandatory vaccination to their respective constituents because of the increasing variants arises. We do have a freedom to choose whether we like it or not but at the end of the day we would only end up on the thought that the risk will not only our life but also the life of the people around us.
September 11, 2021, 10:35:06 PM
I have to admit that currently the way to fight COVID-19 with vaccination is mandatory, because it is not enough to just follow health protocols.
Moreover, with the increasing number of variants of this virus, it is very natural that in the end some countries vaccination becomes mandatory.
But indeed on the one hand we must respect those who refuse to be vaccinated, because I agree that there should be no coercion to vaccinate.
If there are people who refuse the vaccine, it is enough to provide education and their movement is limited, they are not allowed to do too many
activities outside the home.
Moreover, with the increasing number of variants of this virus, it is very natural that in the end some countries vaccination becomes mandatory.
But indeed on the one hand we must respect those who refuse to be vaccinated, because I agree that there should be no coercion to vaccinate.
If there are people who refuse the vaccine, it is enough to provide education and their movement is limited, they are not allowed to do too many
activities outside the home.
It is a very complex topic. Obviously we should respect the decision of those who refuse to get vaccinated. But at the same time, we need to remember that those who refuse to get vaccinated are not only putting their lives in danger, but also endangering others lives as well. So this presents a very uncomfortable question on whether we should tolerate these anti-vaxxers among ourselves. The fact is that this pandemic would have been under control by now, if vaccination was being made mandatory. That was not done and the freedom to choose was given to individuals. But that is costing lives now.
September 11, 2021, 09:18:33 PM
In my country Venezuela, the Covid19 vaccine is mandatory to travel from one state to another. I do not know of another restriction if I know of another one at some point I will kindly update my comment with another post. I have already been vaccinated with my first dose of Sinopharm vaccine, I did not have any unpleasant side reactions just dry mouth.
Guys, we must promote the vaccine. If we do not vaccinate all, the virus will not disappear and we will have the appearance of strains and more dangerous. In addition, our countries are investing a lot of money in vaccines to guarantee our health.
Guys, we must promote the vaccine. If we do not vaccinate all, the virus will not disappear and we will have the appearance of strains and more dangerous. In addition, our countries are investing a lot of money in vaccines to guarantee our health.
Some governments are making it as mandatory, as they think this is the only way to contain further infection. Without achieving high percentage of immunity, the population is at stake. And with varying variants that are coming out, being vaccinated is one good option to develop immunity. And I believe, the government has somehow valid point on this. But it still depends on the person himself if he wants to or not, because that's his body.
I have to admit that currently the way to fight COVID-19 with vaccination is mandatory, because it is not enough to just follow health protocols.
Moreover, with the increasing number of variants of this virus, it is very natural that in the end some countries vaccination becomes mandatory.
But indeed on the one hand we must respect those who refuse to be vaccinated, because I agree that there should be no coercion to vaccinate.
If there are people who refuse the vaccine, it is enough to provide education and their movement is limited, they are not allowed to do too many
activities outside the home.
September 11, 2021, 08:19:18 PM
They choose to make it the hard way, creating castigatory measures on the few that refuse to get vaccinated.
Well, i don't really know how safe it is to get vaccinated because people that had gotten vaccinated the last time posted videos clips on how piece of iron or metallic materials magnets to their skin .sounds awkward right
Maybe it has some kinda chip in there,who knows
But all we need is safety and efficiency from it.
Trojane💎
Well, i don't really know how safe it is to get vaccinated because people that had gotten vaccinated the last time posted videos clips on how piece of iron or metallic materials magnets to their skin .sounds awkward right
Maybe it has some kinda chip in there,who knows
But all we need is safety and efficiency from it.
Trojane💎
September 11, 2021, 07:33:06 PM
In my country Venezuela, the Covid19 vaccine is mandatory to travel from one state to another. I do not know of another restriction if I know of another one at some point I will kindly update my comment with another post. I have already been vaccinated with my first dose of Sinopharm vaccine, I did not have any unpleasant side reactions just dry mouth.
Guys, we must promote the vaccine. If we do not vaccinate all, the virus will not disappear and we will have the appearance of strains and more dangerous. In addition, our countries are investing a lot of money in vaccines to guarantee our health.
Guys, we must promote the vaccine. If we do not vaccinate all, the virus will not disappear and we will have the appearance of strains and more dangerous. In addition, our countries are investing a lot of money in vaccines to guarantee our health.
Some governments are making it as mandatory, as they think this is the only way to contain further infection. Without achieving high percentage of immunity, the population is at stake. And with varying variants that are coming out, being vaccinated is one good option to develop immunity. And I believe, the government has somehow valid point on this. But it still depends on the person himself if he wants to or not, because that's his body.
September 11, 2021, 07:21:20 PM
In my country Venezuela, the Covid19 vaccine is mandatory to travel from one state to another. I do not know of another restriction if I know of another one at some point I will kindly update my comment with another post. I have already been vaccinated with my first dose of Sinopharm vaccine, I did not have any unpleasant side reactions just dry mouth.
Guys, we must promote the vaccine. If we do not vaccinate all, the virus will not disappear and we will have the appearance of strains and more dangerous. In addition, our countries are investing a lot of money in vaccines to guarantee our health.
Guys, we must promote the vaccine. If we do not vaccinate all, the virus will not disappear and we will have the appearance of strains and more dangerous. In addition, our countries are investing a lot of money in vaccines to guarantee our health.
September 11, 2021, 07:20:27 PM
That's actually a good thing because that only means that countries are much more serious when it comes to trying to obliterate the pandemic once and for all, the only problem is that the idiot ant-vaxxers that's trying to hinder the progress towards herd immunity.
The issue is not as simple as you make it out to be, this is a classic case of individual rights and what society expects out of you, I have taken the vaccine and I would appreciate if the majority took the vaccine as well, but if you force people to take the vaccine then you are trampling on their rights, so the question is as what point society can do something like this and void the right to decide that people have over their own bodies? And this is not by any means an easy debate to have.However, with the latest implementations from the government, vaccine becomes a criteria to live in the world and those who can enjoy it and those who can't. So it is becoming unfair now to those who don't want to take the vaccine although its really necessary to get vaccinated as to stay away from the deadly virus.
September 11, 2021, 07:11:41 PM
It is very frustrating for me to see that government and some companies monopolizing people thru required vaccination. This Covid will make the whole earth put in poverty. First it penalized the economy and lessen the salary. People are dying from the virus and debts are growing fast.
September 11, 2021, 05:58:52 PM
I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell. I had in my mind that face mask was going to play this "devil's advocate" but no, the vaccination is getting serious with huge restrictions and therefore looking like it is the devil's advocate.
Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.
Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.
It was almost inevitable from the start and how it should be really. Unless you have a medical reason for avoiding the vaccination, you are making the solution harder to achieve - which is wiping out the virus by preventing the spread. It will take a long time and likely many mutations, but eventually enough people will have built up an immune defense that hopefully the virus will eventually come to an evolutionary dead end. Right now the toughest challenge is getting the poorest countries vaccinated quickly because they are the most densely populated areas and prone to causing mutant variations due to the environment. There needs to be a final push by richer countries to donate vaccines, because until everyone is safe - no one is safe.
There are news coming out that vaccines in the future will be the criteria already if you can go outside your house or better yet stay at home. If you are fully vaccinated, then you are free to go to the malls,banks and parks, but if you are not fully vaccinated, then you are not allowed to go anywhere.
September 11, 2021, 04:54:29 PM
Well, everything is very complicated with Covid-19 and vaccinations against it. There are too many questions and no answers on them. Governments just make an across-the-board vaccination of everyone. But, why they vaccinate people that easily suffered the disease and get immunity? Why they vaccinate people that hardly suffered the disease and finally get immunity? Why they vaccinate people that were sick without symptoms? Why they vaccinate people that have positive IGg tests (IgG antibodies remain in the blood after an infection has passed. These antibodies indicate that you may have had COVID-19 in the recent past and have developed antibodies that may protect you from future infection.)? Why this entire people also need to be vaccinated? I don’t understand. I don’t mind vaccination but not in the way they do it. This way seems strange that’s why cause very diverse thoughts especially among conspiracy theorists.
September 11, 2021, 01:23:44 PM
I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell. I had in my mind that face mask was going to play this "devil's advocate" but no, the vaccination is getting serious with huge restrictions and therefore looking like it is the devil's advocate.
Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.
Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.
It was almost inevitable from the start and how it should be really. Unless you have a medical reason for avoiding the vaccination, you are making the solution harder to achieve - which is wiping out the virus by preventing the spread. It will take a long time and likely many mutations, but eventually enough people will have built up an immune defense that hopefully the virus will eventually come to an evolutionary dead end. Right now the toughest challenge is getting the poorest countries vaccinated quickly because they are the most densely populated areas and prone to causing mutant variations due to the environment. There needs to be a final push by richer countries to donate vaccines, because until everyone is safe - no one is safe.
September 11, 2021, 01:15:37 PM
That's actually a good thing because that only means that countries are much more serious when it comes to trying to obliterate the pandemic once and for all, the only problem is that the idiot ant-vaxxers that's trying to hinder the progress towards herd immunity.
The issue is not as simple as you make it out to be, this is a classic case of individual rights and what society expects out of you, I have taken the vaccine and I would appreciate if the majority took the vaccine as well, but if you force people to take the vaccine then you are trampling on their rights, so the question is as what point society can do something like this and void the right to decide that people have over their own bodies? And this is not by any means an easy debate to have. 
September 11, 2021, 12:53:10 PM
Let's put the propaganda aside for a moment and focus on the positive consequences. The government's job is to ensure that every citizen is secure and properly protected; they don't want one person's life to risk another's, which is why they want you and me to get vaccinated so that everyone is safe.
The difficulty I'm having with this vaccination is the method of administration; I still don't like the notion of injections. I don't want any fluid generated from anywhere in my body system, and the problem of side effects is still being ignored; I wouldn't take any vacation if it isn't addressed, and I can't take a vaccination that will make me sick at the end of the day.
The difficulty I'm having with this vaccination is the method of administration; I still don't like the notion of injections. I don't want any fluid generated from anywhere in my body system, and the problem of side effects is still being ignored; I wouldn't take any vacation if it isn't addressed, and I can't take a vaccination that will make me sick at the end of the day.
September 11, 2021, 12:42:58 PM
Before it's not mandatory to have a vaccine. Today, it's almost close to mandatory because a non-vaccinated person is not allowed at some established. There are resorts here in our country that a proof we are vaccinated is necessary requirement.
What do you think of that. Is that a form of discrimination in a legit way? I myself already have a vaccine but that's because it's mandatory to our work. I don't like to be vaccinated.
Indeed, until now it is still a debate when vaccination becomes a requirement for something and is related to administration,What do you think of that. Is that a form of discrimination in a legit way? I myself already have a vaccine but that's because it's mandatory to our work. I don't like to be vaccinated.
Actually, the government's goal is good, but it must be realized that it is not easy to change someone who initially does not want to be vaccinated into one who wants to be vaccinated.
September 11, 2021, 12:02:24 PM
I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell. I had in my mind that face mask was going to play this "devil's advocate" but no, the vaccination is getting serious with huge restrictions and therefore looking like it is the devil's advocate.
The government cannot compel its citizens to get vaccinated as it will constitute involuntary servitude, but the former can impose restrictions that would somehow force its citizens to get vaccinated. For example, they could limit the movement of people who are not vaccinated by requiring malls or any other services to show their vaccine cards as proof.
Remember that this pandemic has moved the entire world due to impact of COVID in our health. If the people are against getting vaccinated, they are actually going against Science itself. That is why, the priority of the government would always be our health as this would also impact an economic crisis in the country.
September 11, 2021, 11:53:50 AM
Before it's not mandatory to have a vaccine. Today, it's almost close to mandatory because a non-vaccinated person is not allowed at some established. There are resorts here in our country that a proof we are vaccinated is necessary requirement.
What do you think of that. Is that a form of discrimination in a legit way? I myself already have a vaccine but that's because it's mandatory to our work. I don't like to be vaccinated.
What do you think of that. Is that a form of discrimination in a legit way? I myself already have a vaccine but that's because it's mandatory to our work. I don't like to be vaccinated.
September 11, 2021, 11:27:28 AM
That's just how it is. The Covid-19 virus is just too powerful for people who doesn't have that much immunity, especially in this era where unhealthy lifestyle is pretty common. I can understand them because If the countries aren't strict with vaccination, there's a chance that another surge of patients would appear. It's not like it's a huge problem though. You still have a choice to either quit your job or get vaccinated and it's not like it's going to be forever because this pandemic will eventually end some day.
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