Topic: Covid-19 vaccination becoming a criteria to live in the world - page 5. (Read 1096 times)

They will really implement that for most countries because they all want to go back now to our old lives when there's no need for mask. Since there's a lot of vaccination that are on-going and there's a lot of choice to make.

You'll be required for most establishments to be one. And for those that still don't like to take a jab, they'll now be deprived of choice because these establishments and services will require someone upon entering a vaccine card.

i mean apart from the fact the covid has hit the economy real hard and crippled  every possible business and industry, it is actually a fair law to prevent anyone who is not vaccinated to go into public place or to travel because he could be carrying the virus to other people even if he is not sick and we all know that this whole situation started because of one person and it is gonna take one person to bring it back.

The Delta variant is not to be joked with, you can see how fast it infects someone, well, based on my experience, I just recently caught COVID 2 weeks ago, the transmission was quite fast and because of it, my whole family had to be quarantined, really one of the hardest times for me. The vaccines released were used to be heavily doubted (well at least in my country), not only because of its side effects but because people used to think of COVID is the same as a normal flu or cold, but this Delta Variant stormed in and targeted more people around their families. I have no vaccine injected in me yet since I just recently tested POSITIVE for COVID, one of my biggest regrets is not taking it early as I can to at least prevent this from happening.

Vaccines are essential and needed, it may have temporary side effects but I swear, it's better than getting infected and having the potential to actually face death and I'm even considered to be healthy since I'm not obese nor malnourish, just a non-vaccinated guy, and what more if the virus continues to mutate? it's actually scary but for someone without a vaccine, it is definitely much more lethal, our economy will only continue to plummet if the government themselves are taking this opportunity to actually make profit from all of the medical equipment that the citizens need and by raising the price to a ridiculous amount, not entirely putting the blame on the government but they have been ruining everything since this pandemic began, and yes, I am talking about Philippines.

Not everyone would able to trust up the government in regarding with this one and ive seen several countries which does have problems towards these things where there are people who doesnt really consider out on taking a shot which they do believe that vaccine is rather a bad thing rather than on being good.

Most of people are minding about it side effects rather than its efficacy on fighting covid which i cant really blamed them on.Criteria is something a little bit in reality as of this moment

as government do really make it out as a requirement for you to access common establishments and buildings with services which its an awful kind of decision or sign of desparation.

The vaccination is not only for your good or safety but for the safety of the masses. If you are a healthy person and always eat good foods, how about the man beside you? I rather advice that our concern should only be if there is a side effect of the vaccination, which I believe there is none. I wish we all learn to trust the government, if they are to fail in other things, I think no government will deceive the citizens she is securing their lives.

I hate to say it but these covid vaccination and all these stuffs are purely business and is generating huge profits that is why everyone should have to take vaccine not just for your health safety alone but also for the government to generate an income. Yes, we are living in democracy but after this covid 19 vaccines have been implemented, then all of a sudden we lost our own freedom.

I am not anti vaccine because i have been vaccinated already but i understand the sentiments of those people who refuse to get vaccinated.  Although everyone is encouraged to take the vaccine to stop the virus but somehow, our rights should never be deprived also in this time of pandemic.

And they say that people have freedom and there is democracy in this world, what a hilarious joke. Don't get wrong with me, I amn't anti-vaxxer, no, I prefer vaccination but I think Covid and Flu vaccines mustn't be compulsory. I am a healthy person, always eat with healthy food and always protect the balanced diet, do cardio exercises, run every morning, do workout, cut/minimize sugar, trans fats, etc. So, I have great immune system, I almost never get cold/flu and have never visited to the doctor for health issue cause I don't have. So, why do I have to get vaccinated? Especially when it's flu like virus and I have great immune system. I have had a contact with so many people, I probably would get Covid but have never ever been felt and even if something happens, I hugely believe it will go easy on me.

Covid vaccine mustn't be compulsory because it hasn't been tested. FDA approval means nothing, FDA has approved a lot of drugs and also has withdrew a lot of them too. At the same time, it's very clear that Pharma is a huge business. There was one documentary about the approval of Xanax, how bad side effects it had but still was FDA approved because it was very addictive and good money making medicine. No one tries to create anti anxiety drugs that wouldn't cause addiction while it's possible, why? Because that won't be profitable. See this article - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5973310/

The important thing to remember here is that the vaccines become "less effective", but not "ineffective". Even with the mutant strains such as Delta and Gamma, the vaccinated people have a much lower chance of hospitalization and death when compared to those who refused to take vaccine. Now there is a catch. The vaccine manufacturers like Pfizer are now coming up with booster doses, specifically designed against these mutant strains. Coming up with a different booster dose for each of the mutation will be unviable.. but at this point we have limited options available.

This is what is dangerous for sure when the virus continues to mutate rapidly,
Of course, this problem must have a solution immediately because after all, as you said when there is a new variant, it seems that the existing vaccines become less effective and there needs to be a new vaccine.

But getting injected is preferable to not getting injected, right? However, it is their personal preference. For the time being, it is becoming increasingly difficult as the virus evolves, but we don't have anything to do but wait for the virus to die out, which means that we must continue to follow the protocols in order for our country to boost its economy and recoup its losses.

the problem is this virus continues to mutate and create new variants that can be more infectious and deadly. we do not know in the future whether the vaccine we have received is still effective against this virus or not. Recently the delta variant virus has made most vaccines less effective.

I have a very different thought than the mass, which is, that this vaccine is mainly experimental, we do not know what the long-term effects are, to get a vaccine you do not need money, well if it is necessary but if and only if when you have at least 95% knowledge of the virus. For me, a vaccine that is efficient should take at least 5 or 6 years, if not what is currently happening happens, a strain comes out and another vaccine has to be made, then another strain comes out much harder than the previous one and that implies that another vaccine has to be launched to try to immunize, for me immunization is to maintain a high immune system, that is, vitamins in the immune system and each time try to have it very high so that diseases do not occur.

In addition, as I said before, we do not know what the long-term impacts of the vaccine are now, that is, we do not know what can happen in our body that can develop in 10 years, if it is something good or something bad, in addition to the interest of governments to get vaccinated is something strange, the good thing does not give it much. Maybe I'm a little skeptical, but it's my way of thinking.

Yes. Unvaccinated people are becoming a threat, to those around them. In the recent days, it has been observed that >99% of the deaths in all the countries due to COVID 19 are among individuals who are not fully vaccinated. These people are more likely to get infected by COVID and spread the infection to others (at least 4x higher chance), have higher probability of getting hospitalized and finally have a much higher chance of dying from COVID (upto 200x more likely when compared to the vaccinated population).

Government are not making unvaccinated people useless, they are making them unwanted. Unvaccinated can still work, perform tasks, they can do same job from home or from isolation as vaccinated people.

Interesting sentence you have written: "Non vaccinated people are becoming a threat". Can you prove that? Actually there is a little difference between unvaccinated and vaccinated. Are you 200% sure that vaccinated people are more safe thanks to vaccine, and not thanks to their immune system? Yet both have sad similarities as being virus carriers, a must to wear masks everywhere, keeping social distancing.

They are as flexible as they can be. Already individuals are being given the freedom not to take vaccine. I think this is the maximum flexibility that the government can provide. They need to balance both the issues - they can't infringe on personal liberty, and at the same time they can't allow people with a very high chance of contracting COVID roaming around in the public. But for the employers, they need to be strict. They can't endanger 95% of the staff for the benefit of the remaining 5%. If they do so, then they may face legal suites later.

I agree that the law should be fair to everyone, but the rules regarding vaccines must be flexible in my opinion. Because shop owners or companies do
have to force their employees to be vaccinated, because it is dangerous for others to give employees the freedom not to vaccinate. As for ordinary people
who are given the freedom to refuse vaccines, they have to do a lot of activities at home. So indeed the freedom to refuse vaccines cannot be applied
to everyone, depending on the person's daily activities. COVID-19 is indeed a complex problem, so its handling is also unusual. As the death toll continues
to grow, then precautions must be taken which may sound unfair to some people. So we have to understand why some people are given the freedom to
refuse vaccines and some people can't.

Non vaccinated people are becoming a threat in the community. And even if they go out and roam around, they are not the priorities anymore because most of the establishments right now are asking for vaccination card and if you can't present it, then you are not allowed to enter too. So the government is clearly making non vaccinated people a useless people in the community.

Whether we like it or not, at least we should think also the safety of other people and this can be done only if we take the action to be vaccinated. Although the government cannot force us to do it but we know deep in our heart that its the most right thing to do this time so we can stop spreading the contagious disease caused by this covid 19 virus.

Everyone I'm sure they have their own views on vaccines,
but if we talk about science, it seems that vaccine makers have proven that vaccines can make our immune system increase so we are not easily exposed to viruses,
so I think it's much better when we're vaccinated

They are not "just take but not give back" covid vaccination is not something you get just because of yourself, it is something you get for everyone around you as well. It is like saying if I commit suicide it is only my deal, yes you die but after you die you are leaving so many people behind that ruins the family, friends and many other people.

So, what happens if 10 thousand people who are not related at all commits suicide at the same time in a nation, do you really think that it would be alright for the nation? Why do we have suicide prevention lines? Because suicide is bad for you and we would not want you to die BUT it also hurts the nation when more and more people commit suicide.

This is the same thing, government sees people killing themselves by not getting vaccinated and they want to keep you alive, they ARE giving you back, those vaccinations are not free for them neither, they pay for it and they are paying for it and using all the hospitals to help you not die, NOT DIE, that is a very big thing.

Laws can't be one-sided. Individuals have the freedom to refuse vaccines. At the same time, employers and shops have the freedom to refuse those who refuse the vaccines. Infringing on any of the camps would be unfair. The anti-vaxxer brigade essentially want the freedom to roam around freely and spread the virus to those who are in their vicinity. No one in their right mind would agree to this. If you don't want to take vaccine, then you are a danger to everyone else and need to stay at home.