Topic: Covid-19 vaccination becoming a criteria to live in the world - page 4. (Read 1034 times)

Just sharing my experience as me and my wife are already fully vaccinated.

Went out yesterday to buy some stuff, and then me being a diabetic, I have to eat something. So we went to the favourite restaurant we eat and they are allowing dine-in as long as you are fully vaccinated. So we show them our vaccination card and off we go.

But being fully vaccinated doesn't mean that you can't contract Covid, specially with the latest variant. My brother who is also fully vaccinated, got infected after he feel ill and have to go to the doctor for a check-up. At least he has some protection and is now on the recovery phase (self-isolation for 2 weeks, but I said he needs to extend it to a month).

This is really going to be a problem to those unvaccinated like me mate, but that doesn't stop me because if I'm out of job because of that; crypto is my second alternative for taking earning to continue living. However, fully vaccinated or not our lives still continue to prosper and having our immunity will last as long as you pursue self medication and avoid those evil doctors who still profit from pandemic covid-19 lies behind medical administration.

When it's about personal choices, you can't admit that it's logic or not. No one has the right to enforce someone to take the vaccination but that one can be forbidden from using some public spaces and this has no relation with his personal opinions/principles.
Personally, i prefer waiting for the maximum time before taking the vaccine so i can watch how it may has bad impacts to some people and the differences between the different vaccines so i can make a better choice. I am not obligated to travel or change my location so i can wait to be the last one who will take the vaccine.

The debate about vaccination becomes more rough imo. I think about people living under wars or in closed countries (North Corea) if we want to vaccinate the whole globe. Also new births and prisoners, is it right to give them vaccines without their own permission !

But due to some side effects then people do really get paranoid when it comes to this on where they do think off that vaccine could really make it more worst without even thinking on whats the percentage of those

people who got died because of side effects.Some do think that this is just part of the business and vaccines doesnt really give out effectiveness or doesnt change anything at all.

We are really living into a world on where vaccination is a must thing.

There are way too many people in the world who are either anti-vaxx as a whole, or they just anti-covid vaxx basically, and that is the kind of trouble that we are living right now. For some reason, at one point in history vaccinations turned from something that saves lives to few people saying they are bad into a lot of people saying they are bad. How did something that saved lives of millions upon millions of people suddenly started to see by some people as something that is bad is beyond me. But, the reality is that without vaccination, covid would have been so much worse, so much worse.

To get rid of masks slowly, we need to be vaccinated fully. Now, it is definitely the main criterion for people to go anywhere freely and worrying less about having a really serious covid-19 period. Vaccines are very important to keep people away from intensive care also. There isn't any logical reason for being anti-vaxxer. It is people's life we are talking about.

The fact that people still imagine a vaccine to save the world is "against free will" is beyond my understanding. Let's assume that vaccination is something that you should have an option of opting out, just for a second let's say that we said "alright you can die if you want to, it is your choice to die" because that is literally what we are saying to those who do not get the vaccination, they may die at a much higher rate so it is suicide of sorts not to get it.

However even with that, you are not just hurting yourself, low vaccination rate means filled hospitals, filled hospitals means more lockdowns, more lockdowns means less freedom for me, plus no-vaxx people getting it constantly and without having a trouble (you do not have to be hospitalized if you get it) they cause new mutations and variants which makes my vaccination less worthy.

So, you not getting the vaccination hurts me, hell I could be in a bike accident and ER near me could be filled with people like you and I might die because I was taken to a longer and far away hospital. Getting vaccinated is not just about you, it is about everyone around you, it always hurts other, not just you, but everyone else, so get it, I do not care if they have to get a warrant for you and catch you with cops and put you in a chair and lock you up and forcefully vaccinate you, EVERYONE should get it so that we do not die collectively.

Sure they can "treat people freely", but most anti-vaxxers are very stubborn. They are against vaccination and don't want to get vaccinated. They encourage people not to take vaccines. Ok, we are fine with that. But then again, most of the anti-vaxxers are against wearing mask, going through quarantine or maintain any sort of social distance. According to them, everything is a hoax and a scare tactic used by the government to control the people. I mean how blind or stupid do you have to be to act like this?

Refusing to take a vaccine is not brave. It is a stupid and retarded move. In my neighborhood, there was a family that refused to adhere to any of the security precautions. They refused to take vaccine, and mocked anyone who asked them to wear masks. When the second wave hit India (April this year), the family also got infected. 3 of the members landed in hospital and one of them died. I am quite sure that the surviving members would disagree with your post now. Don't think that it is "brave" to refuse vaccine.

I am not sure that vaccination doesn't prevent infection. If so, the effort is in futility or just a mere immune booster exercise. There is actually two types of vaccination; Preventive and Therapeutic. The former as the name implies should serve its function. Again, healthy persons are the safest people to take the vaccination as WHO warned that people with some health issues should avoid the vaccination. I surely understand your point that health related issues should be treated personally. This will be acceptable if we consider Covid-19 as other conventional sickness (advanced malaria). I however align with you that the Covid-19 vaccines were not subjected to extensive trials. It should raise concerns.  Why I have confidence in the vaccination is because, it is not country base. If there be a conspiracy, it should be called a universal conspiracy.

Is there anyone brave and unvaccinated in this topic ? 

Well, that's really unfortunate for those that don't want to take the vaccine. Even if we don't really want to take vaccines or we're sympathizing with them.

There's nothing much that we can do about it because most governments are having this kind of protocol and rule for their citizens and as well as travelers that may come to their country.

Covid-19 is coming so fiercely. It has spread without time for us and it spreads all over the world. This spread can be said to be the fastest in history. The government has also actively responded with policies. Since the vaccine is available, it has been around. People who are vaccinated are generally vaccinated. The government issued a notice requiring everyone to actively vaccinate. People who are vaccinated can go to various places freely, but they must take protective measures. If they are not vaccinated, there may be restrictions on activities.

I also feel bad about this imagine in almost every establishments and businesses and even government center? they are requiring a Vaccine card before allowing to enter or transacting? this is unfair because not everyone is willing to partake in that vaccination process and also don't want that vaccine inside their body so what is this all about?
it is against their will so why treating like this, they must treat people freely and let them have what they want as long as there is a protocol inside the building.
there is a campaign here now about disregarding these rules and it is getting more and more sympathy and sooner will win i guess.

If you have a problem with the restrictions, then you need to get vaccinated. You can't play both the sides. If you don't want to get vaccinated, then it's fine with me. But then you need to stay at home, to lessen the chances of someone else getting infected from you. On one hand, you don't want to get vaccinated, and on the other hand you want complete freedom to travel. Essentially what you are asking for, is a freedom to infect others. People like me are not going to agree with that. Because I would say that you pose a danger for me, if you are allowed in the same flight or same shop where I am visiting.

The epidemic is too powerful this time. I have never seen a pandemic virus that is so difficult to control. Although vaccines have been developed very quickly, this is not a way to stop the spread of the virus. There should be cases who are still infected after being vaccinated. Viruses, but this can be regarded as a kind of psychological suggestion. Most people trust the vaccine and actively vaccinate. This is a positive behavior and is responsible for themselves and others.

And that is the problem, the government will narrow the space for those who are not vaccinated and cannot travel to certain commercial places and places because they will ask for vaccine cards and if not, they will not be allowed in or out.
and such a situation will make those who don't like vaccines feel uncomfortable and finally they have no other choice to be vaccinated for their freedom to be able to travel and enter certain places, and I don't like this kind of situation until now I still have doubts about vaccines .

this is possible and could be happening now on many parts of the world however i dont think this is possible online .
if ever we are working in real life and we are required for vaccination ,
we can always quit or resign because it is our life , we control it and we wont let them experiment us with those vaccines because those can be life threatening .  besides there are still other ways to live like learning cryptos  .

What should I do about the man behind me when I am healthy? And what can I do even if I am vaccinated? It was stated that vaccination doesn't prevent infection in this case. You can still get infected with covid even if you are vaccinated, the only difference is that vaccinated people fight this virus easily and there is very low chance of serious threat or death. So, if I am healthy, I will fight this virus easily just like vaccinated people. Not me, nor vaccinated people lessen the spread of the virus, the benefit of vaccination and health (in my case) is only personal. That's why I don't think that it should be mandatory to get vaccinated. Again, I amn't anti-vaxxer, hope you understand the point. Doctors even hesitate to prescribe trt for long term while it has 10 years of medical study behind it, so why to inject immediately something that was invented yesterday and it's pros doesn't outweigh cos for healthy people?

Unfortunately, most governments may really require travelers being vaccinated. This is just to ensure that their population is safe from further infection. And this will truly limit the movement of some people who don't want to get the vaccine. Because it is still up to your choice but then again, you need to accept the consequences involved like traveling may be limited.