The world may be divided with vaccinated and non-vaccinated while only those who have done their vaccination will only be able to get inside the mall, banks or any establishment. Vaccine these days is still in a trial and error phase so it should be logical that most people would not want to get vaccinated yet because there are some cases this will lead someone to death instead of preventing from getting COVID-19. That's why most people are divided with anti-vaxxer and the vaccinated ones.
I wonder what more will be coming in the future since this pandemic is most likely won't come off until next year since the virus itself is fast mutating into a different variants. So a vaccine might need to be updated too since it's still in a trial and error phase.
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September 12, 2021, 04:16:35 PM
September 12, 2021, 01:53:07 PM
I already said that a few months ago when there were people talking about the vaccine that soon the governments who produce more vaccines and do more vaccination will become great world powers since that's about the importance and about death and life of people, this should be important to do vaccination faster in any country, however, Unfortunately, some governments care about money and their power more than the people lives. I was expecting to see the vaccination of each country make effects on the economy of that country and that is obviously happening now.
Everything wont seem work as it should be and there would be countries whose government would really just mind on that manner and without minding much on what are their primary motives on why vaccines do existon the first place.
Some of countries do really make it as a business instead and tending out to corrupt which is really awful.For now vaccination is mainly been pushed for all of the citizens would really be given a shot but not all would really
be that confident on doing so.
Criteria? No one would able to force you unless if they do find ways specially of prohibiting on visiting out places or limit out some service for non-vaccinated person just like here
on my place which would leave you no choice.
September 12, 2021, 01:52:31 PM
The way this statement is worded made it seem like it was a bad thing to impose stricter regulations in implementing COVID-19 Vaccine when it was the contrary actually. It must be compulsory to be vaccinated because it's not only your life that you are endangering when you go out in public without protective gears and vaccine, you're endangering other people's lives, the economy, and the world altogether. In reality a much stricter COVID-19 vaccine imposition is needed in order to rollout the safety of the public at a much higher efficacy.
The truth of this whole issue of COVID-19 and vaccination is that people did die from this disease that could have been easily contained if people had just believe it dos exist from the get go and took prevention methods to avoid getting infected. Now a vaccine has been produced, let's take away all the sentiment and propaganda been spreed but if this vaccine is the only defense against getting infected if the pandemic was to return then I won't mind getting vaccinated.
But when you look at the way it's been done then you begin ti think something else is happening at the background that the government don't want us to know. Why force it in people when you're in a democratic world, there are only ways to go about and by simply enlightening the citizens, they'll adhere to the advice and get vaccinated.
With force come resistance, so when you begin to force the vaccination on people do expect to get some retaliations and that's what's happening currently. I just wish people see the usefulness of this decision by the government and get vaccinated. The government aren't always wrong you know just that something they don't do things the right way.
Forcing it is the only way you can get people to listen, with the amount of antivaxxer rallies , campaigns and COVID-19 deniers on TV that had already spread their lies and misinformation amongst the public, a simple information campaign will not cut it. You are right, this wouldn't have happened if people listened from the get-go, but reality is often disappointing, so here we are being forced to be vaccinated in order to ensure the safety of the public and the future generations to come. But when you look at the way it's been done then you begin ti think something else is happening at the background that the government don't want us to know. Why force it in people when you're in a democratic world, there are only ways to go about and by simply enlightening the citizens, they'll adhere to the advice and get vaccinated.
With force come resistance, so when you begin to force the vaccination on people do expect to get some retaliations and that's what's happening currently. I just wish people see the usefulness of this decision by the government and get vaccinated. The government aren't always wrong you know just that something they don't do things the right way.
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September 12, 2021, 12:36:58 PM
The truth of this whole issue of COVID-19 and vaccination is that people did die from this disease that could have been easily contained if people had just believe it dos exist from the get go and took prevention methods to avoid getting infected. Now a vaccine has been produced, let's take away all the sentiment and propaganda been spreed but if this vaccine is the only defense against getting infected if the pandemic was to return then I won't mind getting vaccinated.
But when you look at the way it's been done then you begin ti think something else is happening at the background that the government don't want us to know. Why force it in people when you're in a democratic world, there are only ways to go about and by simply enlightening the citizens, they'll adhere to the advice and get vaccinated.
With force come resistance, so when you begin to force the vaccination on people do expect to get some retaliations and that's what's happening currently. I just wish people see the usefulness of this decision by the government and get vaccinated. The government aren't always wrong you know just that something they don't do things the right way.
But when you look at the way it's been done then you begin ti think something else is happening at the background that the government don't want us to know. Why force it in people when you're in a democratic world, there are only ways to go about and by simply enlightening the citizens, they'll adhere to the advice and get vaccinated.
With force come resistance, so when you begin to force the vaccination on people do expect to get some retaliations and that's what's happening currently. I just wish people see the usefulness of this decision by the government and get vaccinated. The government aren't always wrong you know just that something they don't do things the right way.
September 12, 2021, 12:32:14 PM
In our country all employees are required to be vaccinated, if they are not vaccinated, they cannot get a job or are fired
I have just finished the first dose of Astra vaccine, in my country it is not clear whether vaccination is compulsory or not, but we consider this as a guarantee to protect the health of individuals and communities. The company that I work for considers it the consciousness of its employees. It is not only a criterion but more importantly an obligation and responsibility for the risks that may arise from the huge consequences of covid19. 
September 12, 2021, 12:08:36 PM
I already said that a few months ago when there were people talking about the vaccine that soon the governments who produce more vaccines and do more vaccination will become great world powers since that's about the importance and about death and life of people, this should be important to do vaccination faster in any country, however, Unfortunately, some governments care about money and their power more than the people lives. I was expecting to see the vaccination of each country make effects on the economy of that country and that is obviously happening now.
September 12, 2021, 12:08:31 PM
I'm also concerned about this unreasonable obligation, humans don't seem to have rights anymore
In our country all employees are required to be vaccinated, if they are not vaccinated, they cannot get a job or are fired
I have received a second vaccine shot, I did all of that because I was afraid of being fired by my boss
in the future I don't know what will happen to those who are not vaccinated, whether the vaccine card is valid for a long time
In our country all employees are required to be vaccinated, if they are not vaccinated, they cannot get a job or are fired
I have received a second vaccine shot, I did all of that because I was afraid of being fired by my boss
in the future I don't know what will happen to those who are not vaccinated, whether the vaccine card is valid for a long time
September 12, 2021, 10:36:06 AM
I now see a situation that the world is changing and is coming to a level where if you don't have a covid-19 vaccination clearence or means to verify that you have been vaccinated or have received the latest jab of the vaccine, you won't be allowed to buy or sell. I had in my mind that face mask was going to play this "devil's advocate" but no, the vaccination is getting serious with huge restrictions and therefore looking like it is the devil's advocate.
Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.
Apart from the many countries that have been making public statement about the need and compulsory nature of taking the vaccine, I heard in the news barely 24 hours ago about America making it mandatory for big company owners to be vaccinated and show a prove of vaccination of their employees. This is more serious with America taking such steps to ensure compliance , more countries will follow this direction and gradually it will get to smaller businesses, SMEs and then to restrictions on entering banks, malls, fuels stations and etc which will replace face mask. Covid-19 Vaccination is becoming a serious phenomenon and even in Africa and Nigeria, it has started gaining grounds even as the doubt of its existence or and severity is still in doubt from larger percentage of the population.
Not just that but students are also supposed to get vaccinated in the big universities before you can go out and get anything done, it's essential for classes as well, there are employees, students, teachers all getting dragged into getting not even the best one available. The government is running camps and giving people Chinese vaccine which is barely fitting the criterion.
I do understand that vaccination is absolutely essential but at the same time people should have a say in this for sure hands down. They should have more options and at the same time they should be given proper time and care. It just feels like government is just rushing right now, trying to achieve the 100% vaccination mark.
September 12, 2021, 10:04:26 AM
The Covid-19 vaccine is becoming the standard of living in the world because in the beginning everything was closed, but this vaccine is opening up everything through its effectiveness and people are able to improve their standard of living through activities. That is why all people are receiving vaccines and believing the government should take up these activities responsibly and realize the gap between rural and urban areas very quickly and achieve the objective of the vaccination program. If this can be done we can very quickly protect the health of the people from the terrible clutches of the corona at least for a while.
We don't know very well what the coronavirus vaccine is made of, and what sometimes gets into the media is shocking. One thing is clear: a vaccine can change human DNA and make us mutants. There is information that it was spread and they are feeding us with these vaccinations in order to significantly reduce the population of the planet by dramatically reducing their immunity.Time will tell whether it is so or not. However, I don’t remember ever so massively and stubbornly scaring us with the virus and so detailed every day in the details of the fight against it, as well as applied such strict measures of restriction. At the same time, the actual mortality rate from it is not so great, even seasonal colds sometimes lead to more significant casualties.
And where did you here that? also that means you believe on humor?
Well if that's the case then come on men we are grown up man and we supposed to know about which is right or wrong to many medical experts and virologist already tell that vaccine is safe, they even conduct phase 1 to 3 test to different groups of people around the world just to make sure that they are providing the humanity a good working vaccine that can end up this pandemic. But look what happen there are still people believe on hoax and discredit the experts who work with the said vaccine. Trust the science there are people using this hoax and other fake news for there own political agenda so think smart for your own safety listen to your doctor and to your government who's working hard to acquired the herd immunity in their country.
September 12, 2021, 09:56:22 AM
But then, if you don't want to get vaccinated, you can't demand that you should be treated the same way as authorities treat vaccinated people. Because you are a danger to others around you.
Vaccinated people on average have about 50% less chance of getting infected if we take some average of all vaccines on the market. But those who become infected (and are vaccinated) pose the same danger to everyone else as those who are not vaccinated because they have been scientifically proven to produce the same amounts of the virus regardless of the vaccine they received.
Consequently, vaccinated people are no less dangerous when it comes to spreading the infection - quite the opposite, because they begin to believe that nothing can happen to them, and they stop wearing masks. You have the completely wrong impression that politicians create when they talk about vaccination as some kind of ultimate protection.
Now, reports from various countries seem to confirm what scientists feared after the variant tore through India with alarming speed in April and May: Delta is more likely than other variants to spread through vaccinated people. Data from COVID-19 tests in the United States, the United Kingdom and Singapore are showing that vaccinated people who become infected with Delta SARS-CoV-2 can carry as much virus in their nose as do unvaccinated people. This means that despite the protection offered by vaccines, a proportion of vaccinated people can pass on Delta, possibly aiding its rise.
September 12, 2021, 09:04:03 AM
The Covid-19 vaccine is becoming the standard of living in the world because in the beginning everything was closed, but this vaccine is opening up everything through its effectiveness and people are able to improve their standard of living through activities. That is why all people are receiving vaccines and believing the government should take up these activities responsibly and realize the gap between rural and urban areas very quickly and achieve the objective of the vaccination program. If this can be done we can very quickly protect the health of the people from the terrible clutches of the corona at least for a while.
We don't know very well what the coronavirus vaccine is made of, and what sometimes gets into the media is shocking. One thing is clear: a vaccine can change human DNA and make us mutants. There is information that it was spread and they are feeding us with these vaccinations in order to significantly reduce the population of the planet by dramatically reducing their immunity.Time will tell whether it is so or not. However, I don’t remember ever so massively and stubbornly scaring us with the virus and so detailed every day in the details of the fight against it, as well as applied such strict measures of restriction. At the same time, the actual mortality rate from it is not so great, even seasonal colds sometimes lead to more significant casualties.
September 12, 2021, 08:51:28 AM
Covid-19 has become the new Fear mongering tool for governments to restrict citizens freedom and movement. If you do not get the Clotshot, you will not be allowed to do this or that .... or .... if you do not take the Devil's Juice, you will not be able to keep your job.
This is done, because of Money : The government want to eradicate Covid-19, because they are losing tax income from companies that are closing due to forced Lockdowns. The taxes are used to pay their Salary and they also need the taxes to allocate tenders to projects where they get kickbacks and bribes. (Some of these bribes are coming from Big Pharma too for all the "Free" vaccines that are bought with taxpayers money)
This is done, because of Money : The government want to eradicate Covid-19, because they are losing tax income from companies that are closing due to forced Lockdowns. The taxes are used to pay their Salary and they also need the taxes to allocate tenders to projects where they get kickbacks and bribes. (Some of these bribes are coming from Big Pharma too for all the "Free" vaccines that are bought with taxpayers money)
Close to 10 million people have died from the pandemic (4.6 million as per official figures), and you are claiming that the government is just engaging in fear mongering? And as far as I know, it is not mandatory in any of the countries to get vaccinated. It is your choice, whether you want to get inoculated or not. But then, if you don't want to get vaccinated, you can't demand that you should be treated the same way as authorities treat vaccinated people. Because you are a danger to others around you.
September 12, 2021, 08:05:25 AM
The government want to eradicate Covid-19, because they are losing tax income from companies that are closing due to forced Lockdowns.
This virus is not something that can be eradicated, at least not from what is known today - it will still survive in a way that it will mutate into who knows how many more variants that will become more resistant to existing vaccines. In other words, the fire cannot be extinguished, it can only be kept under control - everything else is lies and deceptions used to produce fear - because they have to scare us with something now that there are no more terrorists.
Officially, 4 640 692 people have died from the virus since the beginning of the pandemic, which is a really large number - but what about other diseases that kill people in even greater numbers, and almost no one mentions them?
- Cancer killed nearly 10 million people in 2020
There were an estimated 19.3 million new cases (18.1 million excluding NMSC, except basal cell carcinoma) and 10 million cancer deaths (9.9 million excluding NMSC, except basal cell carcinoma) worldwide in 2020
- AIDS is responsible for nearly 700 000 deaths
Quote from: https://www.unaids.org/en/resources/fact-sheet
680 000 [480 000–1.0 million] people died from AIDS-related illnesses in 2020.
Tens of millions die from other diseases every year, so there is no panic, so all this really looks like nothing more than an attempt to put the world under as much control as possible, and for big pharmaceutical companies to make as much money as possible.
The world’s biggest killer is ischaemic heart disease, responsible for 16% of the world’s total deaths. Since 2000, the largest increase in deaths has been for this disease, rising by more than 2 million to 8.9 million deaths in 2019. Stroke and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease are the 2nd and 3rd leading causes of death, responsible for approximately 11% and 6% of total deaths respectively.
September 12, 2021, 07:23:51 AM
Covid-19 has become the new Fear mongering tool for governments to restrict citizens freedom and movement. If you do not get the Clotshot, you will not be allowed to do this or that .... or .... if you do not take the Devil's Juice, you will not be able to keep your job.
This is done, because of Money : The government want to eradicate Covid-19, because they are losing tax income from companies that are closing due to forced Lockdowns. The taxes are used to pay their Salary and they also need the taxes to allocate tenders to projects where they get kickbacks and bribes. (Some of these bribes are coming from Big Pharma too for all the "Free" vaccines that are bought with taxpayers money)
This is done, because of Money : The government want to eradicate Covid-19, because they are losing tax income from companies that are closing due to forced Lockdowns. The taxes are used to pay their Salary and they also need the taxes to allocate tenders to projects where they get kickbacks and bribes. (Some of these bribes are coming from Big Pharma too for all the "Free" vaccines that are bought with taxpayers money)
September 12, 2021, 07:11:24 AM
Covid-19 make a new change in the whole world and society. People can not go to a public area without wearing a mask. The government uses a strict rule for their people who want to go to other city and some countries use a letter of vaccines as the term and conditions so their people will allow traveling. People are using social distancing when they meet other people they do not know and will not easily shake hands if they do not know that person. Maybe it is what we will see in the future as the Covid-19 can easily mutate to a new virus that can shadow our lives without knowing when this virus will end.
September 12, 2021, 07:01:14 AM
There are workers and seamen here in our country who are going abroad to work but they need a COVID vaccine clearance and not just a vaccine but the approved vaccine from the country where they are going to work and some of these countries requires Moderna and Pfizer vaccine you cannot work abroad with other vaccines, we are now going to live with additional criteria in our identification and that is vaccine ID.
Now this is a big issue. The WHO is delaying the clearance of many of the vaccines, in order to help the Chinese manufacturers. Here in India we have a brand called Covaxin, which had published the Phase III clinical trial data many months back. The WHO has refused to certify this vaccine. The same goes for Sputnik V and some of the other vaccines. So if someone has to travel abroad, he needs to undergo vaccination again with the useless Chinese vaccines or the Pfizer/Moderna vaccines which require booster shots every 6 months.
September 12, 2021, 05:39:33 AM
There are workers and seamen here in our country who are going abroad to work but they need a COVID vaccine clearance and not just a vaccine but the approved vaccine from the country where they are going to work and some of these countries requires Moderna and Pfizer vaccine you cannot work abroad with other vaccines, we are now going to live with additional criteria in our identification and that is vaccine ID.
September 12, 2021, 04:22:39 AM
I know that some people don't like getting vaccines and all but good grief, this isn't some random vaccine for Polio or something, it's for a freaking pandemic virus. So if you all reading this do the world a favor and get your jab (and ignore everything CDC, FDA, and your most hated left-wing media outlet are saying about it if you don't like it), you'll make restrictions eventually go away.
September 12, 2021, 04:19:56 AM
Yes, I believe so. In our country, the government claims that vaccination is not required because not everyone wants to be vaccinated. However, the problem is that the private sector, which the government cannot control because it is their policy that all workers must be vaccinated. I am vaccinated, but there has been a lot of news that if you want to apply for a job, you must be vaccinated, so it is still forcing people to get vaccinated even if they don't want to.
September 12, 2021, 03:51:58 AM
Actually covid19 vaccine have to be compulsory because without be vaccinated their is every tendency that immune system of the person will be easily being attractive to a person or environment that such virus is been dwell or circulating, in some extent everyone suppose to admit the system of taking covid19 vaccine to avoid massive death and lost of opportunities, currently i know that government is right if actually they are making it compulsory because i have not come across of such information that if you don't have covid19 vaccine you won't be able sell or buy, even associating with people in public place.
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